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Andrew Colvett
From the age of Big Brother.
Jack Posovic
If they want to get you, they'll get you. DNSA specifically targets the communications of everyone they're collecting. Your communications.
Blake
All right, welcome to Thursday Thought Crime. I'm Andrew Colvett. We've got the crew kind of scattered across the country. There's Danny, we got Tyler, Blake. We're gonna have Jack Posovic joining us in just a few, but we thought we'd get it started on the proper time. Is this the proper time? I think it's a proper time.
Andrew Colvett
It's the new time. We can't forget the new time. We moved the time.
Blake
I'm in a different time zone, so that's partly the issue. And you know what else you know, trips me up? Although, Blake, you love this. Is that Arizona? So now that I'm living in Arizona, now they the. The whole, like, never changing the clock. So I'm like, part of the year, you're on Pacific time. Part of the time.
Andrew Colvett
Part of the year, we're on God's time.
Blake
God's time. And I'm still a little confused about this, but, Blake, you keep me. You keep me straight. Tyler, you're a lifelong Arizonan. Do you like that?
Tyler
Yeah, I like not changing our clocks, but I wish we were Pacific time all the time.
Blake
Mountain times.
Andrew Colvett
Great. We're only two hours away from the East Coast. We're not. We don't have these big three hour gaps.
Tyler
I like having the three hours away from. The further we are from the east coast, the better.
Andrew Colvett
We could go to Hawaii time.
Tyler
And I. And I'm. I'm a big fan of. I just like being California. Like it. There's something. Arizona is definitely more California to me than it is like Colorado.
Blake
What about Utah? Utah's more Nevada.
Tyler
Yeah, Utah. Nevada is definitely more California.
Andrew Colvett
Utah is just a lot like Arizona. You guys are making these weird distinctions between states.
Blake
You know, it's weird, actually, is Nevada. If you're in the south, it's more like California. If you're in the north, it's more like Idaho and Utah.
Tyler
No, but I mean, that's truth. Mountain time. Like, Utah should be mountain time. There's mountain. There's like. That's like a mountain state. Arizona is. I know we. We have mountains. We have, like, big mountains, but we're not part of the Rockies, so we should be Pacific.
Blake
I mean, you know what the best part of Arizona?
Danny
Central time's not that bad.
Blake
Oh, well, okay. Here's the time.
Danny
You're in between everybody. Well, Ohio's on Eastern time, but Central time. Chicago.
Tyler
You mean Texas time.
Danny
Yeah.
Andrew Colvett
How many times have we had discussion.
Blake
You're from Michigan. Yeah, sorry, I don't, I didn't mean to devolve the, devolve the conversation in such a way, but I did mention Ohio State and I think that's what we want to hit first. I mean, we have to, we have to. Well, so the Ohio State.
Andrew Colvett
Yeah. So to set this up, it's the.
Danny
Yeah.
Andrew Colvett
Oh, we talked about it on, we actually talked about it on the show today as well. But it's very funny because it felt like a super eventful Thanksgiving weekend, which it was. We had the attack in D.C. we had the Somali fraud story really bubbling up. The Trump administration announcing huge changes to immigration. We have this escalation of the whole seditious six issue and possible regime change in Venezuela. And if you take all of those things, I don't think any of them were the biggest story for most Americans. The biggest story for, if you're a normal, red blooded, probably Trump voting American in the middle of the country. The biggest story of the weekend is that a college football coach went to a different college. And we're talking, of course, about Lane Kiffin. He's the highly successful coach of the Ole Miss Rebels. He coached them all the way to the playoff this year. I think it's one of their best results ever. And if they get a title, I think it'd be. Have they ever won a title before?
Danny
I have to check.
Blake
Ole Miss, Yeah.
Andrew Colvett
Ole Miss. I don't think so.
Tyler
Ole Miss. Oh, that's an interesting question.
Andrew Colvett
I don't believe so. I think that would be their first ever title. And so he had all the, all that success and then he got offered a shinier job at LSU just over the border in Louisiana, decided it's a nicer program, so he skipped town and he went away to it. And we've got, I think we've got like clips of, of them giving him kind of a, you know, a single finger send off and all of that. So, so this blew up and one, we can debate the actual story itself. And I'm sure you have an opinion on that, Danny, but I, I also want to debate the state of college football generally in honor of Charlie, who remains a Oregon Ducks fan on assignment with God. I'm told this is called the Duck. I called it Ducky the Duck earlier, but I just made that up. So he would care, Charlie would care deeply about the state of college football. So he would want us to discuss this.
Blake
Yeah, yeah. That's the key here. We're doing this. Like, this is a pure ode to Charlie. Cause Charlie would love this topic. And you know that that was what was so great about Charlie. He was. He was like, as American as apple pie. He was like, college football. That was his thing. Loved the Ducks and loved talking sports. Like, he used to tell me, by the way, that if he could do one thing on top of the show, that it would be to have just like a sports podcast. And then we would talk sports, and people would get, like, we'd get emails in the freedom@charliekirk.com and they would be like, this isn't a sports podcast. What are you doing? Want to hear the news? But Charlie loved it. And he also said. And Daniel test if. If he ever got out of politics, he wanted to be a college football coach. True story.
Danny
Yeah.
Blake
Yeah. So. But this is a story that has captivated the nation. To your point, Blake, why? What is the story? I mean, you kind of went through it a little bit, but, like, why has it captivated the nation?
Andrew Colvett
Well, so Lane Kiffin has always been a slightly controversial figure in the realm of college football.
Tyler
He's.
Andrew Colvett
He's been at a lot of different teams. He's had more than one awkward departure. I'm only. I'm mainly an NFL fan. I remember him just being a disastrous coach of. I think it was the Oakland Raiders, and this was 15 years ago or so. But he's.
An interesting coach. He's often villain. He's a Trump supporter. He's a vocal Trump supporting coach. So you have all these different angles to it. And we've had this happen a few times. In fact, I believe.
We'Ve had other coaches. The one that. I always come at this from the NFL perspective. And so I remember, I'm John Blank, who's. Who's the famous Alabama coach who won five titles?
Danny
Nick Saban. Nick Saban.
Andrew Colvett
Saban. He bailed on an NFL team, I believe, to go to Alabama. There was another coach, Miami. He was on the Miami Dolphins. And he skipped town.
What was it that was. That was really bad. No, no, I think Nick Saban was the one who left.
Danny
Yeah, he.
Andrew Colvett
Miami Dolphins.
Danny
Miami Dolphins.
Andrew Colvett
Yeah. This is a Falcons coach. It was a Falcons coach who bail.
That was Bobby Petrino. Yes, Bobby Petrino. He skipped town on the Atlanta Falcons after Michael Vick got arrested for dog fighting. And that team was clearly cooked. And I think he said he was sticking around and then just kidding, and he bailed. So we actually have a long history of Coaches jumping from one role to another. But. And certainly in college football, a very successful coach at a smaller program is routinely promoted up to a bigger one. So we've had guys who are in Division 2 go Division 1. We've had those coaches at the FCS level rise up to the bowl level. But I think this one stands out the most, actually, because it still is another competitive program. It's one that has some pride and some history, and you just have this purely mercenary angle to it of, I have decided this program is just slightly cooler and slightly better. And I'm just going to take. I'm going to take the money and I'm going to take the status and bolt to it. But you probably follow this the most, Danny. So what do you make of all this?
Danny
Yeah, I mean, the craziest thing of all this is Lane Kiffin didn't address his team when he left. So he just left. And he never told, like, the players privately beforehand. So apparently they all found out from the administration, everybody else, at the same time. So that's kind of what made this even bigger and what blew up among the fans. And then the players started, like, coming out and tweeting at Lane Kiffin that he never, like, talked to him. So that made it even worse. But knowing Lane Kiffin, that's probably, like, really on brand for him.
Tyler
This is totally Lane Kiffin. This is like, yeah, this is so Lane Kiffin. Lane Kiffin thing that's ever been done.
Danny
Lsu. LSU actually plays at Ole Miss next year, so that's going to be quite the game now.
Blake
It's going to be huge. Well, go ahead, Tyler.
Tyler
Oh, I was just going to say I was really interested to watch on X, like, how LSU fans react to this, because it tells you a lot about LSU fans, because all of them were, like, really excited about it. And, like, I mean, that's such, like, a dirty way to, like, have that this all go down, this whole thing. And his. And his statement. Did we. Did we throw up his statement? His statement was like, so bs.
Blake
It's like, oh, I haven't even read it. I want to know what it is.
Tyler
Oh, you didn't.
Blake
Statement.
Jack Posovic
Oh, man.
Andrew Colvett
It's a tweet. Let's bring it up here.
Tyler
Lane Kiffin's tweet is, like, such bs and it's like, if I was. I mean, look. I mean, this is like, one of the dirtiest things ever happened Ole Miss. And it's a lose. Lose for Ole Miss now at this point.
Danny
Mm.
Tyler
Because.
Andrew Colvett
What do you mean?
Tyler
Explain that, well, if they go, if they go win, right, because they have a good team. Like, which they're not going to, they're not going to like they're not going to win a national championship. But like if they do make it, there's going to be like all these questions surrounding like coaching and like they probably need a better situation coach wise than what they're going to be dealt with for the remainder of the season. They're not going to make it to the national championship. But like let's imagine they make it to the national championship and their best case scenario and they lose, which is probably the best case scenario. Like this is going to live in infamy for forever. Even if they get knocked out in the first game in the, in the playoff, like Lane Kiffin is going to become like the most hated man like south of the Mason Dixon line. Like he is.
Blake
No, he already is. Check this out. Tyler throw up 354. This, this is actually like a true story. Lane Kiffin claims Ole Miss van tried to run him off the road. So when he goes into Oxford he's like legit. Going to need a full detail security. They're going to have to like sneak him into the venue. What, like what are they going to do when he's on the sideline? You know, like people are going to start throwing bottles at him.
Tyler
Andrew, we had for our, our tour stop so the Charlie Memorial tour stop here this last. The entire stadium, basketball stadium was full of students. Yeah, that was even a dog.
Blake
It was 10,000. 10,000. And by the way, we had over 50% of that. Of that school enrollment had registered for that event. 50 of the entire enrolled student body registered for the, the Memorial. They're all like, they show up and they're enthusiastic crew man. They were really enthusiastic.
Tyler
Dude, I would not want to be Lane Kiffin dealing with that like, like he's gotta, he. He's gonna walk in there. Well next year. Like that's crazy. I want to go like we should go.
Danny
Actually is probably going to walk in with not a great record either.
Blake
But we. I bet with our Turning Point chapter there we could do a heck of a like a game day, college game day event there. We should actually really do this. Here's the, here's the, here's the statement from Lane Kiffin. He posted this on X. He said, after a lot of prayer and time spent with family, I made the difficult decision to accept the head coaching position at lsu. I was hoping to complete a historic six season run with this year's team by leading Ole Miss through the playoffs, capitalizing on the team's incredible success and their commitment to finish strong and investing everything into a playoff run with guardrails in place to protect the program in any areas of concern. My request to do so was denied by Keith Carter. Always making an enemy out of somebody here, despite the team also asking him to allow me to keep coaching them so they could better maintain their high level performance. Unfortunately, that means Friday's Egg bowl was my last game coaching the Rebels. While I'm looking forward to a new start with a unique opportunity, lsu, I will forever cherish the incredible six years I spent with Ole Miss and will be rooting hard for the team to compete their complete their mission and bring a championship to Austin.
Andrew Colvett
A great part of this, A great part of this is the players have already come out to say that it's total BS when he says the team wanted him to keep coaching. Bryson Sanders said he has this quote despite the team asking me to keep coaching. I think everyone that was in the room would disagree. And then another guy here, sun sun Sun, Tureen Perkins. They have new names every year in this thing. He says. That was not the message you said in the meeting room. Everyone that was there can vouch on this. So we already have the players calling Lane Kiffin a liar. It seems pretty sinister. What's funny to me as a guy who's more into the NFL though is just so he seems it's villainous that he basically just bolted to go take what he thought was a better deal at LSU and didn't stick around. But isn't that basically the highest value of college football at this point? Every every single college player you can get paid now. So the amateur sports aspect is is dead and you can transfer without any serious penalties. We just have the transfer portal. So aren't we effectively at the part point where it's just why wouldn't a coach be any different? If anything, at least the coach has to sign a multi year deal. The players don't. Every player is basically a one year free agent. College football. Prove me wrong. College football is just a more mercenary, more, more bloodthirsty, more out for yourself version of the NFL. They have switched places.
Blake
Well, I totally agree.
Go ahead. Go ahead Danny. I want to hear from you. I want to hear from you. Go ahead Danny.
Danny
Better College football so much better than the NFL because you get true rivalries.
Andrew Colvett
You get true underdog did you did have true rivalries.
Danny
Now you still have that. Ohio State, Michigan still the best Rivalry in all sports. It's not even a question.
Blake
And the Ohio State, I thought, yeah, in front of it.
Danny
Yeah, well, I reserve the right. I don't need the D. If I went there.
Blake
I'm just making.
Danny
That's the rule I'm coming up with. Yeah, I get options, but there's real, real rivalries. There's real underdogs. There's no underdog in the NFL. Everybody's a professional. It's like.
They'Re professionals in college now. No, no, the team spirit and the crowds in college are also way more rowdy, which bring, makes the game so much more enjoyable to watch and be there. It's just second to none to the NFL. It's just kind of whatever.
Andrew Colvett
By the way, real quick, Cade Kaufman, regular, regular commenter, regular Joan. He donated two bucks and he says my grandpa is a massive Ole Miss fan. And, and he was not happy. That is to say the least. It seems the state of Mississippi, they are. Well, they're called the Rebels. They're in revolt again. They're in revolt against, against Louisiana.
Jack Posovic
They're going to.
Blake
Isn't that a funny thing that you just brought up? Like, okay, so we have to change the name of the Redskins and we have to change the name of the Indians. But like somehow the Rebels have gotten off completely scot free. I guess maybe because they know that.
Andrew Colvett
Look, it's Florida State.
Danny
You look. Florida State still has the, the guy in the red face paint riding seminars with the. Yeah, with the Seminole with the spear on fire and they throw it into the midfield. It's pretty sweet.
Blake
Which is bad. It was just. I was, I was going to throw out a quasi square word, but that's, that's not Charlie's mode, which was super cool, which is actually really a great thing. And like, you know what's so funny about this is you're celebrating warrior culture for Native Americans and somehow that became a bad thing. Anyways, but the point is that I think it's fascinating that, you know, the Rebels get to celebrate, you know, sparking a civil war and nobody's like, nobody even blinks about the name. I, I'm not in favor of getting rid of.
Andrew Colvett
That's actually not true. You see, that's part of why.
Tyler
That's actually why they've tried to get rid of it.
Andrew Colvett
Yeah, no, it's actually one of the reasons I would say this was pointed out by, by Scott Greer in an essay where he was talking about the messy state of college football. So I want to shout that out. He pointed Out. So this is a good example of how college football has actually been corroded and corrupted over time. That. So this team, people, let's be frank, they used to wave Confederate flags at Ole Miss stadium all the time. And they used to have the Confederate flag in the Mississippi state flag, but they banned them. Not even just discouraged. They have banned them. They used to play Dixie regularly at Ole Miss games. They got rid of that. They used to have this Colonel Reb mascot who looked like this old Confederate officer guy. They got rid of him. And, yeah, they got rid of Colonel Reb. That was a university, was a key player. Now now they're. See if you guys can get this. Their freaking new mascot is Tony the Land Shark. Yeah, that's what I think of. So I think of when I hear the word rebel. A land shark. And then the state. Actually, the university played a huge role in campaigning. Yeah, that's. That's. You have to bring up, Johnny. No one can see what that is, Tyler.
Tyler
But Carter Reb was, like, the. One of the best mascots.
Andrew Colvett
Yeah, it was a great mascot. It's iconic. It's regional. It's a real regional mascot.
Tyler
I'm a Yankee, like Colonel Reb, like the actual mascot that they used to have him dressed like. It's incredible.
Andrew Colvett
Yeah, it's great. But they killed it, and they're not bringing it back. And the state. You know, the university played a key role in them changing the state flag. They basically said, we need to change the state flag to get better recruits and get in more national football games. So it really is. Everyone wants to celebrate the rivalries. They want to celebrate the traditions in college football. But it seems like all of those traditions get thrown out pretty quickly when there's slightly more money to be made for your program. And, okay, we have a. We have a term for that. It's just. You're a professional sports league, and I. I think there is sad. Sad state of affairs.
Blake
There is becoming.
Andrew Colvett
The reason that Blake with the hat.
Tyler
Blake needs to grow out that mustache.
Andrew Colvett
I don't think I could grow that mustache. I don't have the power to look like I'm a Prussian aristocrat.
Tyler
Yeah, we. Yeah, yeah, the Vladimir.
Blake
But mine would be white like that. What were you gonna say, Danny?
Danny
Well, one of the reasons that Lane Kiffin, like, this problem is that he wasn't allowed to keep coaching is because the school didn't want him to keep poaching his players to bring them to lsu. So they basically said, you're done coaching because they didn't want him around the program to take basically half. Half the Ole Miss team with him to lsu. So in that sense, I mean, the transfer portal has ruined k some of college football in terms of roster management. But the, the traditions of rivalries, I think, are still there.
Blake
All right? No, they're, they're fading. They're degrading. Here's the sad truth. Here's the sad truth about college football, Danny, that you're going to have to come to grips with is that I agree with Blake. It's basically more cutthroat and more greedy and more driven by. By the. By money, I think. And this is the funny thing that then the NFL. This is the funny thing about college football is the fans don't want to admit it. They do not want to come to grips with the fact that college football is purely driven. This is why Pac. The Pac 12 doesn't exist anymore. This is, this is why you have west coast teams playing in east coast leagues. I mean, everything is why we have the 12, 12 team college playoff. This is the root of every new change and every disruption in college football. And the schools, they realize that this is a huge moneymaker. So they're the ones that have. Are trying to make sure that they get in with the ones that have a lot more so that they, you know, they, they can continue making more money. It's a revenue game, but the fans don't want to admit it.
Andrew Colvett
We. We do want to give Charlie his word on this. So we talked about rivalries. Let's go. We were talking about. This is when we were talking about another career topic. The pledge on whether you can, you know, whether you should avoid watching the NFL, I think was one of the, the components of it. But let's play Charlie on college rivalries. 355. Can we talk about this? Can we talk about the. By the way, I, I hate UW.
Jack Posovic
More than I probably hate Stalin. Okay.
Blake
And I can't believe you're a Ducks fan. Like, the odds of this happening that you and I work together for this many. And you're a Ducks fan.
Jack Posovic
Better yet, Andrew was into it.
Andrew Colvett
So half of me was like, oh.
Jack Posovic
My gosh, the trolling that I would have over this would be.
Andrew Colvett
And like. And.
Jack Posovic
But yet even with that, I, I said I actually feel really bad.
Andrew Colvett
Oh, man, I miss him. I miss him. I couldn't believe this. How I would make fun of him and tease him when the Ducks would like, flop in the playoffs again this year. It would be funny. Are they, Are they Contenders for the playoffs. I think they are.
Danny
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Tyler
I was really pulling for.
Blake
What's their record at. Are they at one loss or two, Danny?
Danny
Yeah, they're 11. They're 11 and one. They're a lot.
Blake
I was really pulled Indiana, right?
Danny
Yeah.
Tyler
I should have been. I shouldn't have been rooted against Oregon. I. I really. I. But my natural instinct is automatically to root against Oregon like every time. Like, and now I'm like feel very, very conflicted like in honor of Charlie. But like my natural go to is like as a PAC12, as an ASU fan is like Oregon just beat the living crap out of us for so long that it just. It's so hard.
Andrew Colvett
All right, I think Danny, do you have to. Do we have a heart out for you here?
Danny
Yeah. All right.
Andrew Colvett
All right. Well, we'll bid farewell to Danny and while we wait for. I think Jack is going to join us. We do have another. We have another rumble rant.
Blake
But.
Andrew Colvett
And I want to respond to it. I think hopefully one of us can answer this. This is from Kyrie McAllen who says. Hey, guys, what are the odds someone on the waiting list for Amfest will still get word a spot has opened? Because if there's no longer hope, I need to cancel my Airbnb. Do Tyler or Andrew. Do you guys know the status on. On weightless stuff?
Blake
That is a really good question. That.
Tyler
That is a great question.
Jack Posovic
I'll.
Tyler
I'll ask. Yeah, it's. I think it's just the events email events tpsa.com I feel.
Andrew Colvett
I feel really sad because I, I know one of our people had mentioned last week they want. They had. They had a ticket that they wanted to donate, I believe, because they couldn't make it. But I guess that wasn't a possible change that we could make at this late stage of the game. It's. It's too bad, but it's difficult because I know tickets are tied to individual people and they don't want to let get that all messed up. But thank you regardless, Kyrie, for being a supporter.
Blake
We. Yeah. Here I'm asking the events team right now and one of them is writing back. I see. I see the. The typing happening. So hopefully we'll know and please forgive us this year because am fest, obviously with everything that happened, I mean, it just. It just. Oh, I got an. I got an email here. Everyone was emailed that it won't happen and they'll get a discount code for 2026.
Andrew Colvett
Alrighty. Okay.
Tyler
Yeah, we feel really bad Like Andrew, I'm echoing this too. We have the absolute largest possible venue that we have in the state of Arizona.
We have maxed out the maximum capacity that's there. We appreciate everybody and we're so sad that.
People can't, they can't make it. But this is a good reason. It's like get your tickets early, be there, plan to be there for next year in particular because it's gonna get big. And we have actually a special announcement I think that's coming for not next year, but the year following too.
Andrew Colvett
We're making a two year in advance announcement.
Tyler
They're, they're going big. The events team is going huge and it's going to keep escalating.
Andrew Colvett
We're going, we're going to use the way. We'll have our speaker announcements for two years in advance so you will know who the biggest celebrities will be on the right two years from now. It'll be like a time portal into the future. We have some people responding to the, the college football topic. I liked unashamed. Unashamed girl for him says, I hated that they added the money aspect to college. College was way, college football was way better before that. They should be playing for the love of the game, not of money. And I get the appeal of that. I think the biggest problem was it became about money for everyone else. The coaches were making millions of dollars. The assistant coaches could make millions of dollars. The broadcasters were making billions of dollars. The schools were making millions of dollars. So why were the players to some extent just cattle practically who they were just a tool who could get plugged in and yeah, they could get, they had the scholarship aspect of it. But even that is like so corroded at this point. Being a student athlete is in a lot of schools, it's practically a joke. You can go to special separate classes for the athletes with special tutors. They make sure you don't have to work too hard or have to know how to read as much as everyone else. And it's turned it all into a joke. And that's always been one of my problems with college football as an idea is it's over time, it's turned our colleges into mockeries of what they're intended to be. A lot of these are state funded, taxpayer funded institutions.
Blake
Well, Blake, I have a question. Maybe you know the answer. If not, we can look it up. So now that you know, say, say Archie Manning, who's getting paid apparently like $10 million, the highest paid player in college football, say he doesn't pass his grades. You know there used to be a clause that if you didn't get passing grades you would get. You, you got sat, you know, on Sunday or Saturday rather. Is that still a thing? Archie Manning Ten Million Dollar Man. If he doesn't.
Andrew Colvett
I believe academics, I believe it still is the rule. But the, the deal is, is that they have.
Okay, if, if the rule is that you have to pass your grades but there's so much writing on this. Well, we can't allow those grades to get into the way. And so that's why they have those systems where okay, here's special classes you can take. We're going to make sure. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge. They're not too difficult. Here's some special tutors. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge. They might really, really help you with your academic work. This happens a lot. We have one scandal after another. I remember for college basketball there was a school, I think it was Danny's beloved Ohio State. But I might misremember where basketball players could take basketball as a class for credit. And I believe you could take it multiple times. Infamously the instructor for this class, they had a quiz where it included the question how many points is a three point basket worth? And that's extreme cases. There are players who do make the most of the college opportunities they get from going there for free. But the temptation is always going to be towards diluting it, towards making it meaningless, towards just maximizing the money making aspect of it. And I don't have a problem with that. In pro sports. I think it's weird that we do this with our taxpayer funded institutions.
Blake
So they academic academic eligibility is still required to compete in college sports to maintain their nil opportunity. So it's actually tied to their paycheck. So they have to complete a specific number of NCAA approved core courses and they must maintain a minimum GPA for Division 1 athletes of 2.3 and they must be making reasonable progress to award a degree each semester, typically measured by completing a certain number of credits. So that is. So they have a credit requirement, they have a GPA requirement and it's tied to their nil opportunities. So fair enough.
Andrew Colvett
All right, all right. We're still waiting on Jack. How about we, how about we jump into. Because I don't think Jack had a funny take on this but we have Spotify. Does this annual wrap up or Spotify wraps they call it. And I know both of you two, have you looked at yours and you have what your most, your most listened to music is and we're going to force you to reveal it.
Blake
Tyler, I think yours is less embarrassing than mine. So why don't you stop? Why don't you start with what you have to reveal?
Andrew Colvett
You have to reveal your Spotify rap.
Tyler
No, I don't. I thought you're on here. Oh, I'm first.
Andrew Colvett
Yeah, you've got to reveal it, bro.
Tyler
Yeah, mine's kind of embarrassing though.
Andrew Colvett
Yeah, that's why we're making you reveal it.
Tyler
All right, fine.
Jack Posovic
Put it up.
Blake
Mine is more embarrassing. Fine, I'll go first. Okay.
Tyler
No, yours is nice, Andrew. That yours actually looked like mine last year. And then I made a cognizant decision to change how who controlled the audio in my car.
Blake
No. So here's the backstory. With mine we have one account like you, they keep advertising does.
Andrew Colvett
I don't want. No, don't. You don't get to justify it. First we have to reveal it first. Then you can make your excuses.
Tyler
Let's reveal.
Andrew Colvett
Let's reveal Andrew's his Spotify rap. Let's got it. I think it's 350. We have a collage for this. Let's show it. What is Andrew's most listened to song? Oh, that's really zoomed. Guarding on these things. I can't see that. That's really tiny. You guys got to make it bigger images. But luckily I prepared for this so I already know what his number one is and it is K Pop Demon Hunters.
Tyler
Yeah. I mean yeah, the. The reality though is that K Pop Demon Hunters is actually Andrew, not his kids.
Andrew Colvett
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
Blake
We all know how if I. If I admit that I know like basically all the words at this point. Yeah, it was funny because Foz was like dude, I had to outlaw K Pop Demon Hunters from our house. Cuz we have.
Andrew Colvett
You didn't. You didn't outlaw it, Andrew.
Blake
Who's to say I didn't at this point?
Tyler
You know, mine's the same Andrew.
Blake
It's fallen off. It's fallen off because there one of the pages they do they. They show you which ones you're listening to at different times. K Pop is no longer in the but it's still overall for the year it's number one. But that's only slightly less embarrassing than Moana Tube being our number two most listened to album and then Mufasa the Lion King wrapping up the top three. But I will say I got Morgan Wallen and Forest Frank Child of God to rounding out the top. The top five is.
Tyler
Is Morgan Wallen your wife's or yours?
Blake
Though. No, it's. It's more me.
Jack Posovic
I'm.
Blake
I grew up listening to country music, so I. Yeah, Charlie and I never saw eye to eye on this. He hated country music. I think he liked that it was kind of American and. And mostly a conservative fan base and that sort of thing, but couldn't stand the sound, so. But I was always like, charlie, you just. You just don't know. You just don't know how good it is.
Andrew Colvett
Your. Your top podcast was Garden Keeper Gus. Is this a. Is this a children's book? Is it, like a radio drama?
Blake
It's very calming and soothing. So when they are freaking out in the back of the car, they're calm. You listen to Garden Keeper Gus and they listen to a story, and we turn the speakers, we. We set the balance into the back. Into the back seats so that we don't have to. So we can actually have a conversation among adults and they can listen to their podcast. That's the. That's the strategy. Come on, Tyler, back me up. Blake doesn't have any kids.
Tyler
That's a Spotify original. No, my kids in the car, they make me turn on.
The Road Trip Trivia podcast.
Blake
It's not on.
Andrew Colvett
Road Trip Trivia podcast?
Tyler
Yeah, Road Trip trivia. It's these two moms, and it's. It's very interactive, so I. Every time I get in the car, they immediately go straight to it. So I actually might turn on Garden Keeper Gus and just, like, put him to sleep in the back of the car.
Andrew Colvett
I mean, that's good if you can put your kids to sleep. All right, so I think we're still. Do we have Jack ready to join? He can join, but we still have.
Blake
To make sure we're gonna. We're gonna do Jack. We're gonna do Tyler's reveal and then bring Jack on.
Andrew Colvett
Okay. All right. All right. Well, we're gonna humiliate you before Jack gets here, then, Tyler. So, Tyler, what is. Let's. Let's put up 349, except I'm still not going to be able to see it, I bet. What's yours? Oh, your top genre is Screamo.
Tyler
I'm not embarrassed. I'm zero percent embarrassed by this at all. And mine last year actually was all kids stuff, just like Andrew's was. And then I'm. We made the. We made the change. So now they have an iPad in the back that. That connects to the. To the radio, so they get to use that.
Andrew Colvett
Screamo.
Tyler
Yeah, I have your top.
Andrew Colvett
Your top. So give us a Scream of something. They have to play one of. Scream of songs he's into.
Tyler
Yeah, but. No, but this is the thing, though. Yeah. My top artists, none of them are screamo. It's Yellow Card, I think I had on there. Death Cab for Cutie. Like, that's not. That's like. It's just like Emo Lewis the Child is great. Jack's Mannequin, which is like probably my.
Andrew Colvett
I haven't even heard of most of these bands. You haven't? The Ataris? No, I've never heard of them. I've never heard of Louis the Child. I've never heard of Jack's Mannequin. I've heard of Death Cab for Cutie.
Tyler
Wait, you guys haven't heard of any of these guys?
Blake
Death Cab, Yellow Card I've probably heard.
Andrew Colvett
Of, but I couldn't have told you what genre they are.
Tyler
Oh, it's good stuff.
Andrew Colvett
Screamo. Ed, are you just listening to trance music while driving?
Tyler
As long as you comment on it, we're good. This is. This is Jack's Mannequin.
Andrew Colvett
This is Jack's Mannequin. Okay. Do we have one of the screamo songs he likes? We need it. What's your favorite screen screamo songs?
Tyler
See, that's the thing.
Andrew Colvett
Well, then Tyler shouldn't have listened to Scream.
Tyler
The best.
Andrew Colvett
We don't play it on the show.
Tyler
But the best era driven screamo that I listened to from my era was Taking Back Sunday was cute without the cut from the team.
Blake
Do we.
Tyler
Can we throw that up? You guys. You guys have to know this song. Cute without the E. Cut from the team.
Blake
What?
Andrew Colvett
What? The cute without the e? Yeah, that's the same.
Tyler
You haven't heard. You haven't heard of.
Andrew Colvett
I've never heard of this in my life.
Tyler
You ever heard of Take It Back?
Danny
All.
Andrew Colvett
All music for me was violently killed in 1991 when Nevermind came out. And that's the end. Are we getting that there? Are we getting it?
Is this. Is this your music? This is. Okay, so you just listened to, like, a Tony Hawk's Pro Skater soundtrack?
Jack Posovic
Yeah, that's right.
Tyler
Does that sound like.
Andrew Colvett
Does our audience remember Tony Hawk's pro skater on the N64 we had with all that stuff? That's.
Tyler
Wait, this is the.
Andrew Colvett
This is the chorus.
Tyler
You ready?
See, emo and Screamo in the 2000s was very normal. It was very normalized by, like, skating and surfing and snowboarding.
Andrew Colvett
Yeah, it was very normalized. So was a lot of things were normalized in the 2000.
Tyler
So, like, kind of like skaters, like. And skater trash and fake skater trash.
Blake
Yeah, I. You know, Yellow Card has made a big comeback. They've done like a world tour and stuff.
Tyler
They were number one this month. Yeah.
Blake
Really? Yeah, they got.
Tyler
They got a song to number one.
Blake
I knew that they were. I knew that they were making a big comeback. People. People, like, when bands have those kind of revival tours, it's very interesting to me. It's like, you listen to these bands when you're young and then you get a little bit older, and then they. They go on tour again, they reform the band, and then their fans have all this money, so then they just buy tons of merch and they buy more expensive tickets and they fill out these arenas. You really do have this kind of like, second wave career if you're. If you're a youth culture band. It's fascinating.
Tyler
Yeah, I. You know, I actually have a good Yellow Card story. So. Yellow Card in high school. When I was in high school, I worked at Target. And so after school I would go work at Target as like a. Like, I used to, like, check out as like a lane guy or guest services guy. And a girl worked with me and we. I gave her my Yellow Card CD to. To Remember? You used to burn CDs?
Andrew Colvett
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think I ever. I think I had my uncle do that, and I had him send me Appetite for Destruction.
Tyler
So you'd buy that. One person would buy the cd and then you'd, like, illegally burn it and like, like duplicate it at home like a thousand times. And so I always would get the CDs. What. Because I worked at Target, so I'd got to see everyone burn it. So this girl burned the cd, and the reason why she did, because she really liked Yellow Card because she was a violinist. Because Yellow Card is violin punk. So they have a violin. Violin, yeah, it's like a punk.
Andrew Colvett
I thought punk was supposed to be violent.
Tyler
Not violent, no, it's very. It's very pop punk with a violin. And her name was Lindsey Sterling, who ended up becoming a very famous violinist.
Andrew Colvett
If you've ever heard. Oh, that's. That's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. I still don't get how that's punk.
Tyler
But. But we worked together at Target, and she burned my Yellow Card cd.
Andrew Colvett
All right. Okay, okay. Poso is beating down the door. And by the way, the reason you can't see my Spotify rap is because, as per my declared state, I don't subscribe to anything, so I don't have Spotify. I don't follow any streaming services. And so none of them can produce a yearly wrap up of what I'm.
Jack Posovic
Listening to when she worked at Target.
Tyler
You have no good stories. You know, you have no. We have nothing. No content because Blake doesn't subscribe.
Andrew Colvett
You cannot get anything.
Tyler
And he can't even, he can't even participate in this next topic either, because he doesn't.
Andrew Colvett
Exactly. But we're going to do it anyway because I have, I have a big picture idea about it. No, we have, we do have Jack. He is a topic he really, really wanted to hit. But we need a video to set it up. And so in the entire, in the.
Jack Posovic
Entire country, I mean, I mean, it doesn't surprise me that it wouldn't be on Blake's radar, but like literally everyone else in the country is talking about it.
Andrew Colvett
Yeah, exactly. But I won't because I keep myself pure and immune. But we have this video we need to play. It's setting it up. And so it is a clip. 3, 3, 3, 3.
Jack Posovic
We can begin.
Danny
You and I.
Jack Posovic
We are going to do such beautiful things together, William.
Such beautiful finish.
Andrew Colvett
Ah.
Jack Posovic
Okay.
Tyler
So before you say anything, Jack, can I say this? When Jack brought this up originally and tweeted about this, I thought he was being over dramatic and I was like, this is like this seems like it's way over dramatized. Not that Jack gets, gets overly dramatic often, but sometimes on the pop stuff could happen. And so I'm like, I'm going to watch, sit down and watch this. And I watched it and I was actually, I thought that Jack didn't go hard enough on this.
Jack Posovic
Well, so let's, let's, let's explain what we're talking about first. So for people who might be just be listening also. Hi. Or people who, you know, don't have no idea what we're talking about. Like Blake, for example. So this season five of the TV show Netflix show Stranger Things has just come out. This is Netflix number one show. It is currently the Netflix's number one show worldwide. It's been a massive cultural phenomenon. The original season was all about 80s nostalgia. That's what made it so big in the first place. You hear the synth music. It's kids riding around on bikes. So it's got a lot of allusions back to old 1980s, you know, movies and growing up like that. And so similar to what Andrew was just saying about how youth brands and youth bands could have a, A second life. It's, it's sort of like that same Thing where it's, you know, this is a way for a lot of Gen Xers and, you know, elder millennials, Gen Y ers to be able to sort of share the 80s with their kids. And they've gone and they've been making the show gayer and gayer as the seasons go on. And in this scene, this is the. So this is a flashback, what you're actually watching, back to season one. So what you're seeing here is them re establishing something or what they'd say, revealing something that actually happened in season one that they're only showing you now for the first time. And I watched this scene, and you're seeing the big Bad right there of the whole series. We'll call him Gay Darth Vader. And what Gay Darth Vader is doing, also known as Vecna, is he is metaphorically, you know, it looks like he is physically violating this young boy. We'll call him Gay Luke Skywalker with his tentacle. And he is shoving his tentacle down Gay Luke Skywalker's mouth and shooting his dark effluvia down the boy's throat. The boy's eyes roll backwards. They, you know, they, you know, they roll back in his head. He starts gagging. And at which point Gay Darth Vader then starts stroking the boy's face and his sort of neck. Also his head also goes back in. In a form of pleasure. And to me, I watched this. This was actually released prior to the season itself. And I said, guys, this is. This is, you know, very clearly representative of a gay rape scene.
Blake
And.
Jack Posovic
And that's crazy that nobody is calling out Netflix for this. Number one for. For filming and putting something like this in again. This is their. This is their keystone show. This is their, you know, tent pole show. This is their blockbuster. People have been waiting for this for four years, for this very episode to come out. And that's the first thing you see. And what was crazy is that people then came back to me and said, oh, that's not what it is, Jack. You're just making a big deal of it. To Tyler's point. No, no, that's really, really what it's representative of.
Tyler
Oh, it was like. It was more horrifying than I. I realized. And I. I sat down. It's like right at the beginning, it's like they, like, they wanted this to be the lead off. And it's super. Everything about. It's weird. Like, I was talking about it with my wife while we were watching. We're like. I was like, oh, this is the thing Jack was talking about. She's like, what is it? I'm like, it's like something, something gay happens at the beginning. And she's like, what are you talking about? And we watched it and I was like, there was. We went through it. There's probably 50 different ways they could have done this, like so easily. It's like they. This was, this is like this has to be intentional. Like all this is like, it's so clearly weirdly intentional. And even like the scripting of it, super, like none of it's necessary. It has nothing to do plot wise. Like, there's no way that this actually is applicable to like the story in any kind of way other than it just being like super weird.
Andrew Colvett
So Jack, did you say, did you describe it? You said it was text. A textbook gay rape scene.
Jack Posovic
Representative, like representative of pedophile, you know, behavior. And by the way, so there was a. Actually a professor from the University of Chicago sort of responded to my. I wrote an op ed about this over the Thanksgiving break and sort of responded to my piece and said. And said, yes, that's true. However, if you watch the rest and the rest of the season kind of gets into this where this character, his name is Vecna, but I call him Gay Darth Vader, where Gaydarth Vader is then targeting other children, but he does so in a guise called Mr. Whatsit. And, and her point was, well, perhaps you could read it as a warning of grooming behavior. And, and while that's all you know well and good, I just think this scene itself in a TV series which has been marketed very largely towards children is just inappropriate.
Tyler
It's just, it's so weird. I mean, everything, everything about.
Blake
Very graphic. It's very graphic. And you know, you know, the fact that we have to blur it out for. I mean, here's what I would say, Jack, to those people that were hating on you. It's like, who, who any age over like 15 wouldn't see this imagery and be like, that looks a little phallic. Like, you would of course see that. You could not see that by looking at that image and then him petting the kid's head. And like, I'm kind of with you. It's with you, Tyler. Like, it's worse than I imagine. And I get that, like people are going to defend it as, as some sort of like make believe. But to your point, I think a lot of families watch this show. Am I wrong, Jack? I only watch season one a lot.
Jack Posovic
Of a Lot of families watch the show.
Tyler
Yes, a lot of family watch together, like especially with like teenagers and stuff like that. And like, like a little bit like my kids are kind of in the perfect. My, My two older kids are kind of in the perfect. My though I feel like 9, 10, 11, 12 year olds are like, this is kind of like a really cool show to like that age group because it's just, it's, it's not really scary, but it's scary enough and it's, you know, it's just kind of an interesting, you know, like Dick Jack said, we've.
Andrew Colvett
Been asked, we've been asked. People are asking us to cut the video out because it's too disturbing to them. So I guess they're, they're definitely agreeing.
Jack Posovic
You can just, you can just show us, you can just show us still. But actually what, what we could also show, which is separately from the video, which. And by the way, that's my entire point because the people who were like hating on me and this, this went viral. This, we got written up in international, you know, media over this and I had all these these, I call them the Stranger Simps. All the Stranger Sims were coming at me saying, oh no, it's just, you know, it's just like the scene in Alien. Don't you understand? They're, they're just doing a bit from Alien. I said, well, you understand that the movie Alien is meant to represent male.
Andrew Colvett
Rape, but it's an R rated movie.
Jack Posovic
The Alien is an R rated movie. And, and the, they're called the face huggers in Alien are meant to represent male rape because the, it's, it's sort of this, you know, creature that, that grabs ont face injects. It injects its, you know, spur sperm spore, whatever into your body, then they become pregnant and then the pregnancy kills you. So it was written and the writers of the original Alien movie have come out and said this, that that's exactly what they intended. They were pro abortion and they thought that if they could put this into the film that it would make men perhaps more open to being pro choice if they understood what it was like to be raped and then get pregnant again. Go look at the actual writers of Alien. That's what they said. Like, I'm not making up. So for people saying, oh, it's just like the Alien scene. Yeah, I know, I understand what no match is. That's what they're doing. But what I do want to also point out though is and let's talk about some of The B roll here, guys. Throw up. Where is it? Where is it? Where is it? Throw up. Just some of this B roll. 3, 4, 3 34. Just throw up. 334 is B roll while we're talking because. And, and some of this other stuff because you can see if in 334 and you know, 339, 340 to scroll through those because there are numerous tie ins to children's action figures, children's happy meals, children, children's toys, where they are clearly marketing this show towards children.
Andrew Colvett
I think that last one, that was just the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
Blake
No, it's like a brand.
Andrew Colvett
Okay.
Jack Posovic
It's like a crossover.
Blake
Yeah, no, but, but you know, I think the point is because I, I only watched season one, so I, I'm a little behind on Stranger Things. I thought it was cool. Love the synth 80s, but it was like the kids were really, really young. It kind of had this like, it was like a kids. You were watching the world through these kids eyes and being terrified at this stranger thing that was kind of creeping into their reality. But it. And I, again, I could be misremembering, but it seemed completely appropriate for like a little slightly older children to watch.
Jack Posovic
There was some, there was some like violence, but you know, that's, that's, that's probably as much as season one was.
Blake
Some adult themes, but it was like, it was basically you're following around these kids in their lived experience right around.
Jack Posovic
But Andrew, the point is, is that this scene is meant, you know, it's a flashback to season one. So it's almost like the writer. So it's like Netflix came in, basically woke flicks, came in and was like, no, season one was too family friendly. So we want you to watch season one knowing that this is what actually happened right before season one. Right. So the kid gets. Or I guess during, because the kid gets Will. This is the name of his character who's now gay Luke Skywalker. He goes missing and throughout all of season one, they're trying to find Will. Well, now we found out this is what was happening to Will. He was being raped by gay Darth Vader the entire time.
Tyler
Yeah, it ruins it. It like makes.
Jack Posovic
It totally ruins it.
Tyler
It ruins everything they wrote. They, they ruined it. Is this, is this worse? Is the first five seconds of this season of Stranger Things worse than the last episode of. What do you call on HBO that ruined the Sopranos? No, the Game of Thrones.
Andrew Colvett
Well, I mean, what, what Game of Thrones wasn't? So the thing what's worse, the last.
Tyler
Five minutes of the last episode, Game of Thrones or the first five minutes of this Stranger.
Andrew Colvett
The thing about Game of Thrones is the badness of it was like the last five seasons of it, essentially.
Blake
No, really, the last three seasons, but two or three seasons.
Jack Posovic
Well, so this. This for me, for me, if people are like, why is Jack commenting on this stuff all of a sudden? It's kind of like, this is sort of return to form for me, because my original, you know, Twitter account and I had a blog going back in, like, 2012 through 2016 was all about ripping on Game of Thrones. I. I did a blog called the Angry Got Fan, and so that. That was our focus the entire time was basically attacking HBO for what they were doing with Game of Thrones. And so this is a little bit return to form because now I'm the angry Stranger Things fan, I guess. Way before a critical drinker, by the way. Way before a critical drinker. Although I love that guy. I think he's. I think he's phenomenal. What he does.
Blake
So. So, Jack, you.
Tyler
You.
Blake
You mentioned that this is kind of like pedophilia grooming. Like, this is, you know, this is what some people are observing. This is as a warning. But it's like, it occ. Entire show is now. In hindsight, being 2020 is just one giant grooming exercise because you into a show.
Andrew Colvett
I've never watched you into a show because Stranger Things just clearly seems to be. I said it was a sissy hypno program to turn you gay, and I kind of suspect all three of you guys.
Blake
Your instincts were proven right?
Jack Posovic
Well, so I am sure I have never watched. No. Blake. Blake. I will unfortunately and begrudgingly admit that Blake was probably right about this, but there is. Do we have any of the. Okay, no, we don't have it here in. In these clips. There's a clip now in. So this is what's crazy, right? This is what they set it up with. There's a new clip in the very last episode of this. You know, current. The current episodes that have been released where basically Will the. The. The gay Luke Skywalker. And this is why I call him Gay Luke Skywalker, because now he then talks to his lesbian friend Robin, Rockin Robin, and she tells him that it's okay to be gay and you should embrace your gayness. Do we do it?
Blake
We have it.
Jack Posovic
Oh, we have the clip. Okay, I see it now. I see it now. 3, 3, 4. Sorry, guys. 3, 3, 4.
F
She just looked perfect. So God perfect. And it was right then and there that I knew she was the one. That with Tammy, I would finally be able to be myself, you know, all of myself. Because there was always this part of me that kind of just scared me, you know? But I thought that if Tammy loved me, all of me, you know, I wouldn't be so scared anymore. And then he showed up. Steve the Hare Harrington. Oh, God, you probably can guess the rest. And that's when it hit me. It was never about, don't have Tammy. It was always just about me. I was looking for answers in somebody else, but.
I had all the answers. Just needed to stop being so God scared.
Andrew Colvett
Again. That music you heard in the background was not synth wave. It was the undulations of the sissy hypno burrowing into your brain. You guys just. You gave into it for four.
Jack Posovic
Blake is right. Blake is totally right. So. So what happens, right, what I was referring to is. And I see what's going on right after that. Will has this sequence where he decides to embrace himself. And then he is able to exhibit, you know, basically like force, like powers, the same way that Darth Vader does. So gay Darth Vader and gay Luke Skywalker both have these force powers now and are able to use them to fight each other.
Andrew Colvett
Hold on. Did you say gay Darth Vader would kind of use the Force on him? If you get what I mean.
Tyler
Oh, man.
Blake
Well. Oh, no.
Yeah, that's dirty. That's very dirty. So. But what you said is interesting, Jack. You said that you said it as they have to. Because she said it in that clip where I just had to embrace me. So you. And you were saying Will had to embrace himself and he gets these powers. But, like, isn't that just some sort of, like, subliminal. Subliminal license to be entirely narcissistic? To just be completely obsessed with self. To worship self. To. Yeah, that's okay. I'm just making sure that, like, it's that on the nose.
Jack Posovic
No, it's. It's that on the nose. The entire thing. And so he. He gives in. And they've been playing and. Well, and I will tell you, by the way, that the end this is. So the full season hasn't been released. So the sequence that they specifically mentioned, not just giving in to self, but it shows him growing up with another boy. And as they're very young. So this idea that they're trying to imply is that he's been romantically sexually attracted to his best friend all along. And there's a theory that a lot of people have been talking about. Paris or Faz, you know, totally agrees, by the way. You should definitely get him on this episode where, you know, it almost seems like they're playing it out that he and the best friend boy are going to kiss or are going to have some kind of relationship or something like that. As if. So not only are they going back and recasting season one, it's like they're going back and recasting the entire show to be about child abuse, this weird pedophilic scene with gay Darth Vader, and now just about embracing gayness. So it really goes back to, like, what a lot of people have been warning about Netflix and that that movie Cuties and a lot of things that Netflix does to just take stuff and then woke ify the heck out of it.
Andrew Colvett
Are we going to get a scene, you think, in the season finale where maybe, like, the two boys will, like, make out with each other and then they'll go like, maybe someday this racist country will have a first black president and he could make gay marriage legal?
Jack Posovic
Yeah, literally.
Andrew Colvett
He'll be like, literally, gay marriage. That doesn't make sense. And they'll say, like, we can make it make sense. Yes, we can. And then it will fade out.
Jack Posovic
Literally.
Andrew Colvett
The Obama Hope poster.
Credits.
Jack Posovic
Yeah, they'll meet another boy who comes in to help them in the final battle. Right. And they're like, what's your name? I go by Barry, but that's.
Andrew Colvett
Yeah, yeah, he's Barry.
From Hawaii.
Jack Posovic
I go by Barry. I see a student from Hawaii. Right.
Blake
The. You know, it's so. But Jack, I just started belabor the point, but are they saying that homosexuality is just self narcissism? So.
Jack Posovic
I don't think so, because I don't think they're that self aware. I think they're. I think the general message is that being homosexual is good, that you should follow your heart, do whatever you feel like. Your impulses are all that matters. Your urges are all that matters. Just do whatever feels right. And. And you be you and this. You know, if you watch a lot of Netflix, we know that Netflix has a huge LGBTQ section. We know that they inject these storylines into property after property over and over again. And I, I think it's. I don't. I don't think it's. I don't think they're trying to be that on the nose. I think they literally think it's good writing, which it's not, obviously. What I do find interesting, though. Is. I don't know if there might be in Blake. You might. You know, I'd like to get your take on this. It almost feels a little subversive too, because again, they're showing that the child who was the first one to be abused by Vecna then later goes on to become gay. So it's like, what, what. What mean? What. What mean? Netflix. So it's like. It's like, is there some guy who's, like, in the background, like. Like, who's actually, like, closetly, you know, closetly, like conservative, who's like, what if we. What if we had Vecna abuse him? And everyone just kind of went along with it, but he actually is, like, putting a subliminal message inside the. You know, underneath that. That overt message. Like a Straussian kind of thing.
Tyler
Maybe.
Blake
I got.
Andrew Colvett
I just think it's all.
Blake
That's a glass half full. That's a glass half full take on it. After your op Ed, you might be. Well, yeah.
Jack Posovic
I say it in the very end of my op ed, like, or maybe is there like an extra little. Extra little something going on there, a little wrinkle?
Blake
Because what. I don't know that we have stats on this that are provable. Maybe we do. I should look them up. But, like, do we have stats on, you know, if it's in the percentage of people that are. That are. That are self described, like they were abused as a child, that. Then.
Jack Posovic
So in. In the op ed, I did research for this. I did. I did look this up, and there was a Vanderbilt study from 20 that said that found that hetero, or. Excuse me, homosexual adults reported instances of child abuse at a three to four times higher rate than the heterosexual population.
Blake
Wow. Yeah, that's. Well, maybe you're right then. Maybe there is some weird tie in. Maybe. Maybe the. The writers. Some writer in the writers room looked up the same stat that you. You just referenced in your op ed. One could.
Jack Posovic
And so they're trying to kind of like, sneak it, which. Which obvious, because obviously it's totally at odds with everything that the characters are saying. You know, embrace yourself. Just be yourself. Whatever, whatever. But also, you know, it's like, it's kind of contradictory because we don't see him, you know, being like this before the. The new scene. We only see it after Faz.
Blake
Faz just dropped something in the chat that convinced me that this is really just like a. The whole, like, stranger things is five seasons or whatever is just like a gay fifth, sixth sense. Because in three, 35 we have a clip. Maya Hawke says she wouldn't exist if her parents hadn't aborted her sibling like that. I mean this is, this is dark.335.
Tyler
This is really dark.
F
My mom with this really beautiful essay about her abortion that she got when she was really young and about how if she hadn't have had it, she wouldn't have become the person that she'd become and I wouldn't exist and how both of my parents lives would have been totally derailed and she hadn't had access to safe and legal health care, fundamental health care. And I of course, like wealthy people, will always be able to get abortions. But so many people because of this ruling this like week will not only not be able to pursue their dreams but actually lose their lives and be unsafe.
Andrew Colvett
Was she seated on that in like a dark. She seated cross legged. I didn't miss that.
Blake
But I think she had her leg under her. Yeah.
Andrew Colvett
Oh, that's super odd.
Blake
But that reminds me of that Pramala Jayapal tweet where she was like abortion is health care, full stop. And then she just got ratioed into oblivion.
Andrew Colvett
A really dark thing. A lot of people on the abortion topic, what's clear is a very common normie sentiment on abortion is you're not, you're not killing a separate human being. It's just, I guess, you know, we have DND and stranger things. I've heard Dungeons and Dragons, they think it's just if you get an abortion and then have a kid later, you just, you rerolled their stats. You, you just, you rolled the dice for a different kid. The kid, same kid came back. They're just different.
Tyler
Yeah, there that's the wishful thinking from.
Andrew Colvett
The like they really only killed someone. Maybe if like you never have a kid at all. But otherwise. Yeah, you're just rerolling their stats.
Jack Posovic
No, this is something where. And by the way, so there's another angle to all this as well. Do you guys know about the Warner Brothers deal?
Andrew Colvett
Haven't heard about that, no.
Tyler
What you guys.
Jack Posovic
Andrew, have you heard of this? All the, the big acquisition that's going on?
Blake
Oh yeah, well, something about it, yeah, vaguely. Yeah.
Jack Posovic
So. So Warner Brothers Discovery is currently up for sale. And what's really interesting is that Warner Brothers Discovery is also the parent company of, of things like cnn, hbo, like all this stuff.
Andrew Colvett
Right.
Jack Posovic
And so one of the top bidders for this is Netflix. So they're coming in with like this Netflix, which is known for being one of the wokest, you know, organizations on the planet. One of the wokest things that they have is, you know, this is where.
You know, where all of every. Pretty much every show they get, they're either going to put something woke in there, they're going to make a lot of children's content, including gay characters, including LGBT characters. There was one, it was like a. Something about a couple I've read. It was a couple of months ago where it was like just two nights and they just started being gay all of a sudden for no reason. This is where one of the. This is where, of course, cuties came out, which was just a. A straight up pro pedophilia movie based in France. And I believe, if I remember correctly, there was a writer. What was that show? Paranormal Park, I think where they had trans characters, and I think the creator of it was actually attacking Charlie, like making fun of Charlie after he was killed. Was another Netflix show. I forget exactly what he said, but it was. I remember that being another Netflix show with a trans character. And. And so imagine, if you will, right, how we would have to respond if Netflix all of a sudden got in charge of, like, the Looney Tunes at Warner Brothers, got in charge of, like, Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck. And also, by the way, WB also owns, like, what else? All of the DC superheroes. So, like Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, who I believe they already made gay in Warner brothers, the Flash, etc.
Andrew Colvett
Yeah, I'm not. I'm not sold on this making a big difference. I mean, we already have an example of beloved characters getting taken over by a turbo gay company, and it's called the Disney Corporation. They've. They've made a lot of stuff really gay.
Blake
It is.
Jack Posovic
But you're just proving. You're just proving my point, though, that, that if Netflix gets this, you know, it takes.
Andrew Colvett
My guess is more gay gang, Big gay. I just don't think we're gonna see a lot of gay buy Bugs Bunny because when was the last time you saw anything related to Bugs Bunny? I guess.
Jack Posovic
My kids watch Bugs Bunny every day. Like, every single day.
Andrew Colvett
Are they making new Looney Tunes or do we just have the old Looney Tunes?
Jack Posovic
They are making new ones.
Blake
There's no.
Tyler
Yeah, there's new ones. There's new loses.
Jack Posovic
All right, There's a whole new. There's a whole new show where it's like. It's got like an overarching plot, basically, you know, where. Where they, you know, the characters kind of the storylines, like, flow.
Andrew Colvett
We have epic arcs about Bugs Bunny. The epicus Bunny's going on a buildings Roman. Bugs Bunny is following the heroes.
Jack Posovic
So the other angle of this, there's two other companies right now that I think are in a bidding war over. Over Warner Brothers. And so that's. I'm just saying, like, if Netflix gets in, like, I. I'm coming for it. Like, this is insane. This is completely insane. And I can't imagine how you do this. The other two companies are Comcast, which honestly, I'm obviously not a huge fan of since they run. Excuse me now. And then Paramount, which is interesting because Paramount, of course, yeah, they have Paramount plus and they have Yellowstone, which of course, I've been quite outspoken on. But they did also just, you know, take over CBS News. They gave that to Barry Weiss. So it, you know, it seems like they're trying to at least do something to differentiate themselves there.
Andrew Colvett
Jack, you're gonna love.
Jack Posovic
This would be insane.
Andrew Colvett
You're gonna love this.
Tyler
They are, Jack. It's that they're. They're. They're quietly moving to the right over. Over there with CBS.
Andrew Colvett
Guys, we got a $5 dono from Zuzu's Pedals. You're gonna like this. You're gonna like this. Zuzu's Pedals points out Netflix got a lot gayer when Obama got on the board, presumably right after saving those kids in Indiana at the end of season five of Stranger Things. I canceled Netflix three months ago, and so should you or.
Jack Posovic
That's such a good point. I. You're right. I totally for it. Totally slipped my mind as we were having the conversation that Obama is. I don't know if he's on the board specifically, but they have a major, major deal between Barack Michelle Obama.
Andrew Colvett
I thought he was on the board. Netflix, he definitely got a huge contract to make those documentaries that I was looking up.
Jack Posovic
No, it's documentaries and feature films. They did the whole thing with the Julia Roberts about, like the. It was like what was like an energy wave kind of thing, like, crashes and, you know, everyone loses power.
Blake
It's like the end of the world one.
Jack Posovic
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Andrew Colvett
Susan Rice got on the board of Netflix.
Jack Posovic
Right. Well, okay, so basically, Obama, Susan, the appendage. So that's what it was. Susan gets on the board and then. So. But the Obamas. The Obamas are clearly deeply in bed with it. So how do they think we're going to react if the Obamas then take, like, imagine if the Obamas have a direct line to controlling CNN and controlling, like, everything the WB does. It's like, no, that's I would go to war over that. I would 100% go to war over that.
Blake
It's leave the world behind. That was.
Andrew Colvett
Yeah, that was the world behind.
Jack Posovic
That's it.
Andrew Colvett
Yeah, he made that.
Blake
And by the way, by the way, everybody, I remember all those conspiracy theories about how, you know, what did they know? Did they know something was going to. Going to happen? And, and then there was the scene where all the Teslas.
Which people thought was like an intentional dig at Elon Musk because all the Teslas get taken over by some mysterious power or force or alien beings and they just start crashing all these Teslas.
Jack Posovic
I'm telling you, this is, this is absolutely. The Obamas are trying to take over media. They are trying to take over a media empire. They've already done it with Netflix, which, by the way, I'd love because I think Stranger Things started like almost 10 years ago. So that was before the Obama partnership. So before Susan Rice is on the board, before they had the Obama partnership. He was still, he was still president when it started or certainly when they were making the show. But now right now they're required to do all this extra stuff. So they even have to go back to season one and make it all gay. And in fact, actually one thing that's really interesting, it just occurred to me as well, they've also caught Netflix stealth editing Stranger Things where they will because it's a streaming service, Right. So you don't have DVDs of it. So they'll go back and they've actually like slightly edited certain characters and certain storylines as the show's going. So if you go back and watch season one right now. Yeah, yeah. There was a whole scene where one character was kind of like a peeping tomorrow of the character Jonathan was peeping on Nancy. And they like basically like re edited the whole sequence so that he was just sort of like outside but didn't mean to be looking in or something. So when he had, there's the guy with the, the shutter camera. And so they re edited. So if you go back in season one and look at it now to do a re watch, it's like, it's like a slightly different, you know, a slightly different narrative.
Danny
Wow.
Blake
So, Jack, on a scale 1 to 10, how big is this story worldwide?
Jack Posovic
I mean, it's the number one show in the world right now. Is the number one show. Don't. And don't think for a second that lots of kids are not watching it, because they are. And it's something honestly where.
People say like, oh, why do you care? Just don't watch. It's like, no, guys, we actually do have to pay attention to how the masses are being propagandized, and that's exactly what's going on here.
Blake
I totally.
Jack Posovic
The issue.
Blake
Yeah.
Jack Posovic
You know, the issue that I would also. This is why we talk about the super bowl so much and why we're doing this. The, the, the, the. The sporting event halftime show later, you know, later next year.
Blake
Yay. Sports.
Jack Posovic
And. Yeah, sports. And.
And I would also add, you know, I'd also add that, you know, you have to know what you're up against because millions of people who make decisions in politics, who make decisions in media, who then go on to just, just, just exist in the world, they are now all going to have this mental model. This will be the mental model that they are given. This is where most people get their stories from. That's where they get their beliefs from. It's where they get their history from. It's from watching movies. There's no more powerful instrument in the entire world, movies, TV shows, streaming, et cetera, that people get this from than here. And that's why I call it out. That's what. Whether it's Game of Thrones 10 years ago or, gosh, almost 14 years ago, when I started doing that to Netflix. Now to Star wars, back when they were doing that and they were making everything crazy, Disney got really mad at me over the Star wars thing. Actually, Rian Johnson as well, who was the writer of the second Disney Star wars movie. Because I pointed out that in the Disney Star wars films, all the. The heroes were this, like, diverse band of rebels, and all of the villains were white men. Every single one was a white man. And all of the heroes were not. And of the heroes who were white men or the one straight white woman, they were all killed one by one from the old movies. Just saying, just saying. I'm noticing things. I'm just noticing a few things here.
Blake
You're just noticing the crime of noticing. Jack, why don't you take us home? It's been a fun episode.
Jack Posovic
Thanks so much. Guys. Pay attention to what's going on. Don't be a stranger. Simp. And ladies and gentlemen, as always, go out there and commit more thought crime.
Date: December 6, 2025
Host(s): Jack Posobiec, Andrew Colvett, Blake, Danny, Tyler
Main Theme:
A conversational deep-dive into current American culture wars: the state (and soul) of college football, the controversy around the latest Stranger Things season, and the team’s Spotify Wrapped confessions. This episode blends cultural critique, news analysis, and irreverent banter, focusing on how American mainstream culture is shifting, especially regarding money, identity politics, and media messaging.
Overview:
The first half of the episode is a spirited debate about the state of college football, prompted by Lane Kiffin’s controversial move from Ole Miss to LSU. The discussion expands into the erosion of traditions, the impact of money ("NIL" and transfer portal), and changing college cultures.
Key Discussion Points and Insights:
Lane Kiffin’s Departure:
Money Over Tradition:
Rivalries and Real College Football:
Tradition vs. Political Correctness:
Memorable Moments:
Timestamps for Important Segments:
Overview:
The hosts share their “Spotify Wrapped” top music and podcasts, revealing the ways kids (and nostalgia) dictate their listening habits.
Key Points:
Memorable Quotes:
Timestamps:
Overview:
Jack Posobiec leads a passionate (and explicit) critique of the new Stranger Things season, arguing it’s become an “aggressively woke” flagship for Netflix, citing a contentious, metaphor-laden scene as evidence. The crew breaks down cultural messaging in the show and the broader agenda at Netflix.
Key Discussion Points and Insights:
“Gay Darth Vader” and the Opening Scene:
Target Audience and Cultural Propaganda:
LGBTQ Representation and Subliminal Messaging:
Netflix and the Corporate Culture War:
Editing and Retconning:
Memorable Quotes:
Timestamps:
Main Takeaway:
Jack and team urge listeners to be aware of the ways pop culture is shaping ideological paradigms—especially for children and families—and to call out propaganda where they see it. The episode ends with Jack’s classic call:
"Go out there and commit more thought crime." (Jack Posobiec, 72:25)
“[College football is] just a more mercenary, more, more bloodthirsty, more out for yourself version of the NFL. They have switched places.”
— Andrew Colvett, 14:01
“Lane Kiffin didn’t address his team when he left…they all found out from the administration…”
— Danny, 08:00
“You’re seeing the big bad right there of the whole series…metaphorically, you know, it looks like he is physically violating this young boy. We’ll call him Gay Luke Skywalker…”
— Jack Posobiec, 41:40
“Don’t be a Stranger Simp.”
— Jack Posobiec, 72:25
“Go out there and commit more thought crime.”
— Jack Posobiec, 72:25
Style:
The conversation is highly irreverent, direct, and sometimes confrontational, blending cultural criticism with humor and inside jokes. There’s a strong undercurrent of concern for cultural decay and a suspicion of mainstream media, but also nostalgia and a sense of community built around shared values and inside references.
For Listeners/Readers:
This episode is an in-depth exploration of how mainstream entertainment and sports are shifting under cultural and economic pressures, drawing sharp attention to how these changes affect both community tradition and individual identity. The panel’s insights, laced with humor and sometimes dark sarcasm, offer a window into the culture battles playing out on American screens and campuses today.