Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 109 — Tyler Robinson In Court? AI George Washington? Charlie, Person of the Year?

Date: December 13, 2025
Host: Jack Posobiec
Guests/Co-hosts: Blake Neff, Cliff

Episode Overview

This episode is heavily focused on the latest developments in the Tyler Robinson murder trial, which involves the killing of Charlie (confirmed later in the episode as Charlie Kirk). The hosts discuss court proceedings, media coverage, the judicial process, and the emotional toll of the case on the Turning Point community. Key issues include rulings on courtroom cameras, the conduct of the accused, legal strategies, and the broader implications for justice and activism. There are also segments featuring discussion of "Robin Simps" (staunch Robinson supporters), the psychological phenomenon of true crime fandom, and calls for continued activism in Charlie's memory.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Updates on the Tyler Robinson Trial

• Court Cameras Ruling: There was confusion about the judge's ruling on whether cameras would be allowed in the courtroom. The judge ruled only for the current pre-trial hearing, not the full trial. The major hearing to determine media access has been moved to February 3rd (00:45–03:37).
  • Quote: “They're just moving it out again... I want people to understand that the ruling was only about cameras for today's hearing, not the entire trial yet.” — Jack Posobiec (03:18)
• First Public Video of Robinson: The first courtroom video of Tyler Robinson has circulated—discussion centered on whether he was smirking or appearing smug, which angered the hosts and many in the chat.
  • Quote: “To me, he looks very smug. He seems... it’s a grin. It’s a smirk that you see in these images. This was very—it's hard to watch.” — Jack Posobiec (03:37)
• Family Presence: Tyler Robinson’s parents attended the hearing, his mother was visibly emotional, but family members did not proclaim his innocence to the media (21:23).
• Defense Funding: Robinson’s defense is being funded by public state money due to the capital nature of the case (20:26).

2. Trial Process and Emotional Impact

• Duration and Frustration: The hosts stress that high-profile murder trials, especially capital cases, can drag on for months or even years. Jury selection will be particularly difficult due to Charlie Kirk’s prominence.

  • Quote: “This is not going to be a four month thing. This is going to take a long time... jury selection is going to be unprecedented.” — Cliff (09:23)

• Transparency and Open Trial: Emphasis on the importance of having cameras to ensure public transparency, not to glamorize the accused but to allow people to see the justice process unfold.

  • Quote: “Let the people see what this monster did and let’s have an open trial so that there’s full transparency.” — Cliff (06:03)

3. Witness Intimidation & Victim Rights

• Utah Witness Intimidation Law: Jack reads a summary of Utah statutes regarding witness and victim representative intimidation. These laws criminalize attempts to influence or harass witnesses, victims, or their representatives—Erica has now been designated as Charlie’s “victim representative” (14:22).
  • Quote: “This means that... Erica is now officially tied to the prosecution and the prosecution can take actions to protect her.” — Jack Posobiec (16:14)
• Defamation and Liability: Now that Erica is a recognized victim representative, legal actions become more plausible against those harassing or intimidating her in connection with the trial (15:13–16:14).

4. Legal Strategies, Justice, and the Limits of the System

• Death Penalty Delays and Justice: Discussion about how capital cases are prolonged, sometimes for decades. Historical examples are given, such as Mumia Abu-Jamal (1981 murder of a police officer, sentence changed decades later) and Houston serial killer cases (28:15–32:15).
  • Quote: “There’s a shortage of justice... There should be a high profile way... that reminds you people who do grave works of evil will be ripped out of society like the cancers that they are.” — Blake Neff (32:15)
• Federal Charges Possibility: Viewer questions whether federal government could add charges if the state does not deliver justice; hosts warn this can be a double-edged sword (33:29–35:29).

5. True Crime Culture and the “Pro-Burgers”

• Robin Simps & Pro-Burgers: The psychological phenomenon of supporters who become obsessed with defending accused killers (references to Brian Kohberger and hybristophilia—attraction to violent criminals). This is partly framed as a commentary on parasocial relationships and internet fandoms (39:50–43:29).
  • Quote: “It’s literally become their identity because... you don’t have meaning at home or you’re disconnected... It’s very female-coded.” — Jack Posobiec (41:48)
• Hybristophilia Defined: Attraction to criminals is explained and illustrated with serial killer groupies and infamous cases (43:29).

6. Action Items & Honoring Charlie’s Legacy

• Engagement and Activism: The best way to “share the arrows” and honor Charlie Kirk is by learning the facts, combatting misinformation, and staying politically active. The hosts specifically highlight Turning Point’s continued mission and upcoming political battles (50:03–51:22).
  • Quote: “Share the arrows is to go do the work... We have to double down. Turning Point has to survive, has to thrive... that’s what this is all about.” — Cliff (50:03)
• Research Resources Provided: Viewers are steered toward public charging documents, the Turkey Tom video ("The Man Who Killed Charlie Kirk"), and expert analyses for those wanting to combat trial misinformation online (47:32–50:03).

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On the court’s slow process:

"Everything about this case seems to take forever… even for something as basic as getting cameras into the courtroom, which we're all hoping for."
— Blake Neff (02:03)

On the emotional toll:

“Seeing him… as an actual person… just made this thing real again… It was tough to watch.”
— Cliff (06:03)

On justice and punishment:

“There’s a shortage of justice… people who do grave works of evil will be ripped out of society like the cancers that they are. When you have a society afraid to execute the worst malefactors, you have a society that is increasingly detached from any principle of right and wrong.”
— Blake Neff (32:15)

On transparency:

"We're hoping this is all going to be on camera, not to glamorize him, but let the people see what this monster did..."
— Cliff (06:03)

On “Robin Simps” and true crime fandom:

"...there are people that are full on Tyler Robinson support who are just like, this guy didn’t do it... That makes you a Robin Sim..."
— Jack Posobiec (39:50)

On the sustained fight for justice:

“Turning Point has to survive... and when I think about what Charlie would be telling me right now, it would be: yes, honor him, follow the trial, but... we have to double down. We have to go out there.”
— Cliff (50:03)

Key Timestamps

• 00:45–03:37 — Updates on the camera hearing, pre-trial proceedings, images of Robinson.
• 06:03 — Emotional reactions to seeing Robinson in court.
• 09:23 — Discussion on slow pace and difficulties of high-profile, capital murder trials.
• 14:22–16:14 — Explanation of Utah’s witness intimidation law and Erica’s legal status.
• 20:26 — How Robinson’s defense is being funded.
• 21:23 — Robinson’s family’s presence and actions at the hearing.
• 28:15–32:15 — Historical/legacy issues with capital punishment, justice system frustration.
• 32:15–33:29 — Societal loss of faith in justice and the moral argument for capital punishment.
• 39:50–41:48 — “Robin Simps,” pro-burgers, and parasocial relationships in true crime fandom.
• 43:29–44:23 — Hybristophilia and criminal groupies explained.
• 47:32–50:03 — How to arm yourself with facts and honor Charlie; recommended resources.
• 50:03–51:22 — Call to activism, continuing Charlie’s mission.
• 51:22–53:09 — Closing thoughts, Turning Point’s ongoing work, and episode wrap.

Summary Flow

This episode blends emotional commentary, legal analysis, and media critique, maintaining a tone of urgency, frustration, and resolve. The conversation vacillates between technical breakdowns of courtroom developments, heartfelt remembrances and calls to activism, legal education, and pop sociology on crime fandom. The hosts make it clear they view the Robinson trial as both a personal crusade and a larger cultural struggle over justice, transparency, and the political legacy of Charlie Kirk.

Resources Recommended by the Hosts

• Official court charging documents/indictments (publicly available)
• "The Man Who Killed Charlie Kirk" — Turkey Tom (YouTube or Substack)
• Paramount Tactical and other experts for technical trial analysis

Closing Message

The hosts urge listeners to remain engaged, educate themselves on the facts, combat misinformation, and honor Charlie's memory by continuing the activist work he championed—emphasizing resilience in the face of a frustrating system and relentless online opposition.

Thoughtcrime is death.