THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 113 — Suicidal Penguins? The Death of Masculinity? Obama Loves Pit Bulls?

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Podcast: Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec
Episode: THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 113 — Suicidal Penguins? The Death of Masculinity? Obama Loves Pit Bulls?
Date: January 31, 2026
Host: Jack Posobiec
Guests/Panelists: Dr. Charles Cornish Dale (“Raw Egg Nationalist”), Blake, Tyler Boyer, others

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Episode Overview

This episode of "Thoughtcrime Thursday" explores controversial facets of contemporary culture and politics through the playful, provocative lens of the panel. Key topics include the purported decline of masculinity and its societal roots, the viral meme of “suicidal penguins” and its Faustian undertones, and the strange intersection of pit bulls, progressive activism, and breed bans. The conversation balances satirical banter and genuine cultural critique.

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Key Topics & Discussions

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The Death of Masculinity and Testosterone Decline

[01:34 – 16:14]

Introduction of Dr. Charles Cornish Dale ("Raw Egg Nationalist")

• Dr. Dale introduces his new book, The Last Men: Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity, published by Sky Horse.

  “It's about testosterone...what happens when you have a society that's full of men who have basically been drained of their masculine essence.” – Dr. Dale [01:48]

The Book’s Thesis

• The decline of testosterone is presented as a significant factor influencing shifts in political and social behaviour, particularly an increase in “leftism.”
• Jack riffs:

  “So, what you're saying is… it's those diets…and…chemical…It's kind of Maha, actually, but it's the synthesis of Maha and Maga. Really, like Trumpism.” [02:33]

• Dr. Dale explains scientific evidence of a year-on-year 1% drop in testosterone in the West, linking it not only to health but societal change:

  “That's a quarter in 25 years. It's 50% in half a century...as men lose their testosterone, I think they're more likely to become leftists.” [03:17–03:58]

Environmental vs. Lifestyle Causes

• Discussion turns to whether the crisis can be fixed individually or is a public health disaster.

• “Slonking” (drinking raw eggs) and why Dale promotes it:

  “The raw thing is, is largely to do with a, the quantity that you can consume at any one time...you get certain nutritional benefits when you consume eggs raw rather than cooked. It preserves the cholesterol in particular.” – Dr. Dale [06:07]

• Environmental disruptors—pesticides, plastics, microplastics—are framed as requiring government intervention:

  “That's why we need Make America Health Again...a grand health campaign that centers on cleaning up the environment.” [08:13]

Liberalism, Political Structures, and “The Last Men”

• Influenced by Fukuyama’s End of History, Dale argues liberal democracy creates psychological and biological conditions hostile to masculinity:

  “We’ve created a political system that is potentially at odds with certain aspects of the male character and psyche…” – Dr. Dale [09:09]

• Visual culture, physiognomy, and mugshot “chadification” are discussed with real and AI-altered images—diets, jawlines, and mouth breathing as markers of a testosterone-starved generation.

Notable Quotes

• “If you double your sleep as a man from four hours to eight hours a night, you can double your testosterone levels.” – Dr. Dale [07:18]
• “We have created a creature, a type of man who is not fully a man.” – Dr. Dale [10:25]

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Suicidal Penguins, Ice Walls, and the Faustian Spirit

[16:14 – 25:55]

The Penguin Meme Explained

• The episode pivots to a meme involving penguins marching into the Antarctic mountains—originally from a Werner Herzog documentary—now reframed in political circles.
• Panel debates if this is about nihilism or something deeper:

  “The penguin embodies the Faustian spirit— the will, the desire to know, the desire to overcome, the desire to transcend and to achieve the transcendental, even at the cost of death. It's the great impulse that has motivated Western society.” – Dr. Dale [21:17]

Philosophical & Satirical Undertones

• The penguin's march is used to exemplify risk, transcendence and Western “will to heroism,” in contrast to herd-like conformity.
• Banter ensues about founding “Turning Point Antarctica,” “embrace the penguin,” and humorous references to "Agartha," mythical lands beyond the "ice wall":

  “He feels the call of the mountains. He must go and see what is on the other side…” – Jack Posobiec [22:18]

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Obama’s Pit Bull Connection and Breed Politics

[25:58 – 39:46]

Obama, Activism, and "My Pit Bull is Family"

• Jack raises Obama’s post on supporting “neighbors”—a euphemism for migrants—and a resource page linked by Obama promoting an organization that finds homes for pets when owners are detained by ICE, especially focusing on pit bulls.

• The panel mockingly riffs on why pit bulls are so popular among leftists and activist groups, discussing darker implications:

  “Why are pit bulls considered the pet of…they're all antifa…Why is pitbull like the antifa pet?” – Jack [28:13]

The Pit Bull Debate: Facts, Bans, and Symbolism

• Factual discussion about pit bull attacks:

  “From 2005 to 2017…pit bull, 285 attacks from pit bulls” – Jack reads from statistics [30:45]

• Panel covers the breed’s origins—bred for violence in England, thrown in fighting pits, “whole existence is violence.” [31:12]
• Banter about breed bans in the UK vs. the US, and the politics of Florida banning local bans on the breed:

  “Florida at the state level banned local bans on pit bulls.” – Blake [39:27]

Social & Psychological Analysis

• Discussion of why some people knowingly acquire dangerous breeds—“virtue signaling,” “true will towards ugliness or danger,” and whether pit bull attacks are underreported due to social stigma or personal reluctance to act.

Notable Quotes

• “What can you do about that other than wage a relentless war of extermination against all pit bulls?” – Dr. Dale [32:46] (noting this comment is tongue-in-cheek but reflects the panel’s blunt style)
• “It's an insight into the psychological state of a lot of people…they want to prove it's the owner, not the dog, until…they turn out to be the bad owner.” – Blake [35:21]

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Memorable Moments & Quotes (with Timestamps)

• “As we all know, outside of death, all failure is psychological.” – Jack Posobiec [22:34]
• “They tried to 'chadify' him…turned him into a gigachad.” – Dr. Dale, on AI-altered mugshots [13:41]
• “If you see a chinless man, he probably is a habitual mouth breather.” – Dr. Dale [15:11]
• “That's why people are chinless.” – Dr. Dale, on the effects of childhood allergies and soft diets [14:45]
• “Embrace the penguins suicidal surge into the unknown… It’s the Faustian spirit.” – Dr. Dale [21:17]
• “I could do this topic all day.” – Jack Posobiec, geeking out on anthropology and nutrition [15:59]

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Important Segment Timestamps

• [01:34] Dr. Charles Cornish Dale introduces his book and the theme of the testosterone crisis
• [05:29] On “Raw Egg Nationalism,” slonking, and sleep’s impact on testosterone
• [09:01] Philosophical framing—Fukuyama, thymos, masculinity and political systems
• [13:06] Satirical physiognomy analysis of leftist memes/mugshots
• [16:14] Discussion shifts to the penguin meme; symbolism and the Faustian spirit
• [21:17] Dr. Dale explains the penguin as the embodiment of Western drive/transcendence
• [25:58] Obama’s neighbor resources, pit bulls as a cultural and political totem
• [30:45] Pit bull attack statistics; breed history; bans in UK and US
• [39:27] Florida’s ban on pit bull bans
• [40:39] Panel sign-offs, references

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Tone and Style

The discussion is fast-paced, deeply irreverent and snarky, rich in memes and internet in-jokes, but intersperses pop-anthropology, philosophy, and biting social criticism. The banter is a blend of serious critique, satire, and performative thought crime.

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Conclusion

For listeners:
This episode investigates the cultural, political, and biological fault lines in America—using memes, irreverence, and research—to question mainstream narratives about masculinity, activism, and the symbols we choose. The result is an energetic, sometimes outrageous panel well worth the listen for aficionados of internet culture, politics, and alternative views.

Further Reading/Engagement:

• The Last Men: Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity by Dr. Charles Cornish Dale
• Blake on X: @blakeSNF
• Dr. Dale’s substack: raweggstack.com
• TPAction jobs: tpaction.com/careers

Transcript

[A]

From the age of Big Brother.

[B]

If they want to get you, they'll get you. DNSA specifically targets the communications of everyone. They're collecting your communications. All right, folks, welcome to today's edition of Thought Crime Thursday. As you can see, I'm here in my tuxedo. No, I am not auditioning for On Top of a Wedding Cake.

[C]

Are you going?

[B]

No, I am not auditioning for.

[D]

Are they doing the next Bond film, Goldfinger?

[B]

No, I'm going to the premiere of Melania, which come. Which is going to be across town here at the Trump Kennedy center in about an hour and a half. So I'm, I'm dressed up. So this is, this is, this is my, my attire, but as we know, no suits. So you got my suspenders. What's up? We got, we got Blake. What's up, Blake?

[D]

Yeah, yeah. Howdy, Jack. But who, who's there with you?

[B]

And we've got.

[A]

Hold on.

[B]

We have Tyler Boyer. And I wanted to also introduce to the audience. I think you may know this guy. He's someone who has been out there on the Interwebs, Someone who's also, by the way, was somebody who Charlie Kirk was a big fan of and was always sending me his stuff. So I wanted to get him on the show to try to get him on. His name is Dr. Charles Cornish Dale, but you may know him better by his online moniker as the Raw Egg Nationalist.

[A]

What's up, Red? It's absolutely a pleasure and a privilege to be here, Jack.

[B]

So I wanted to get. Let's get into this because your, your new book is actually going to be our first thought Crime. Tell us about your new book and what is the thesis?

[A]

So I've got a new book just come out with Sky Horse called the Last Men, Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity. And it's about testosterone. So it's a, it's a follow on from the Tucker Carlson documentary that I was in, in 2022. So I was in a documentary called the End of Men about testosterone decline, about this civilizational decline in testosterone that we're seeing and its implications for men and also these, the broader implications actually for politics, for the political system. You know what happens when you have a society that's full of men who have basically been. Been drained of their masculine essence. So.

[B]

Castrated.

[A]

Castrated.

[B]

So what you're saying is it's, it's sort of like a reverse of what so many people think is going on in society. See, we think that liberal. So some people say, well, liberalism is on the rise. And that's why you're seeing these new diets, veganism, et cetera. You're saying it's the opposite. It's that it's those diets and those. Not just diets, but, but yeah, chemical. It's kind of Maha, actually, but it's the synthesis of Maha and Maga. Really, like Trumpism.

[A]

Yeah, well, I think, I think for too long, people have, have considered, before Maha in particular, people have, have kind of failed to consider the political implications of ill health, and they've really failed to consider the political implications of testosterone decline. So, testosterone, various different gold standard studies have showed that actually testosterone is declining in the US and actually throughout the rest of the Western world at a rate of something like 1% a year, year on year. Now, that might not sound like very much, but that's a quarter in 25 years. It's 50% in half a century. And yes, I mean, broadly speaking, I think that a lot of these trends that we're seeing today are actually downstream of this biologic, this profound biological change that's happening to men and has been happening for decades. You know, among other things, you could, you could talk about the, the rise of leftism. You could talk about political polarization. That's something I talk about in the book. You know, actually, as men lose their testosterone, I think they're more likely to become leftists.

[B]

They're more likely to become leftist. So. So Blake, what you, you've obviously, you've heard about this. What, what is your sense of this? Is this something that actually bears out?

[D]

Well, it's funny because I'm of two minds. It does seem, obviously we have, if you, if you were to just look at society wide, I feel like we might have reached peak soy boy or something. Actually in the past, like, it felt like 10 years ago, there was that hipster, hipster aesthetic, the redditor aesthetic that peaked. Now when I think about, I think about young people, I always think about the, like the lifting cult guys. And it's funny because it feels like so omnipresent that you'd assume it's all over the place. But like 50 years ago, nobody was going out and lifting weights three times a week to be strong. Nobody was doing a lot of this really ambitious fitness stuff. But it does seem like testosterone was higher, I guess, since we have the eggster here. First of all, I guess a lot of people are going to ask why raw eggs specifically? But is it, do you think it is primarily an environmental thing or do you think it's a lifestyle thing. Or basically, can an individual fix the testosterone crisis or is this a gigantic scientific public health matter?

[A]

Okay, so on the raw egg thing then. Yeah. So raw eggs. Raw egg nationalism became a thing really in, in 2020. It's the reason I started posting on Twitter. There was this hashtag going around raw egg nationalism, and it was about people knocking back large quantities. Slonking is the technical term actually slonking large quantities of raw eggs.

[B]

Do you have a slonking record? What is your slonking record?

[A]

I think the most I ever slonked in today was 28.

[B]

So 28. 28 raw eggs in a day.

[D]

Is cooking them bad? Because it just kind of sounds gross to me.

[A]

So I, I, yeah, I didn't take them all at once. Yeah, I mean, like Hogan would. Hulk Hogan would. But I mean, he was a different beast. You can't look like. I would never tell somebody, don't eat cooked eggs. Like, if you can't stomach raw eggs, and then by all means scrambled, whatever, cooked, fried, boiled. But the raw thing is, is largely to do with a, the quantity that you can consume at any one time. So like you may have seen Cool Hand Luke, the Paul Newman film, right, where he's challenged to eat 50 boiled eggs. It nearly kills him. But you can very easily knock back 50 raw eggs, you know, just drinking them. But then there's also the issue of preservation of the nutrients. So, so you get certain nutritional benefits when you consume eggs raw rather than cooked. It preserves the cholesterol in particular. And now we've been told for 100 years that cholesterol is very bad for you, but actually the opposite is the case. And thankfully now RFK Jr has upended the food pyramid and restored cholesterol rich foods to their rightful place as the, as the kind of building blocks of the American diet. But I think this is, it's an individual and a societal problem. So there are definitely things that you can do as an individual to improve your hormonal health. Absolutely. And I regularly give advice on my Twitter account, on my substack and, and in this book, you know, there are simple things that you can do. Lifting weights, cleaning up your diet, learning how to cook, avoiding processed food, foods. Sleeping better. Sleep is a big one, actually, that people really don't pay enough attention to. So there was a study that showed, for example, that if you double your sleep as a man from four hours to eight hours a night, you can double your testosterone levels. Because the vast majority of testosterone is produced at night during sleep. So if you don't sleep properly, you're not going to produce enough. But then there are these big, I think, slightly societal problems. Things like pesticides, herbicides in the food and water, PFAS chemicals, plastic chemicals, microplastics, environmental pollution, all that kind of stuff. And really, you know, that's something that government needs to be involved in. And that's why we need Make America Health Again. That's why we need this grand health campaign that centers on cleaning up the environment in educating people, improving herbicide and pesticide regulations, all this kind of stuff.

[B]

So, so, so that's. That's the thought crime. I love this idea because you're combining basically Maha with everything that we're seeing politically that's going on. The name of the book is the Last Man.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Why is that the name of the book, if this is the subject?

[A]

Yes. Well, so the book is actually kind of placement. The book is kind of based on Fukuyama's end of history thesis. It's a kind of quite a bold reappraisal or restating of what Francis Fukuyama is saying happens at the end of history. You know, the triumph of liberal democracy over all other alternative political systems. Fukuyama talks about the triumph of liberal democracy as the victory of a certain kind of fimos. And fimos is this ancient Greek word that was used to describe spiritedness, the things that animate man, that give him motivation, that make him patriotic and courageous, etc. Well, what Fukuyama says is that actually the triumph of liberal democracy is the victory of one kind of thymos over another. And so, you know, in a liberal democracy, you can be recognized as equal with your fellow man, but you can't be recognised as better. Which is a fundamental aspect actually, of being a man of masculinity, of thymos. Well, what does that actually mean? It means that we've created a political system that is potentially at odds with certain aspects of the male character and psyche, the drives, the things that push men to succeed. So not only are we facing this kind of biological crisis where, you know, we're being pumped full of pesticides and herbicides and we're eating bad diets and we're not sleeping and we're exposed to blue light all the time and chronic stress, but also actually, we've created a political system that is hostile to masculinity. And so the Last Men is this is this idea that actually we've arrived at the end of history and we've created a creature, a type of man who is not fully a man. And so I pose these quite big kind of Philippines.

[B]

Wait, wait.

[A]

So wait.

[B]

So what you've done here. I think I figured this out. You've explained DNT for mugshots maybe?

[A]

I have, yeah.

[B]

This entire thesis is why we have. Why they all look that way, why they all have this. It's diet. It's lack of testosterone. But you're right though, it's kind of a spirit or a lack of spirit or a hateful spirit and a resentment. So this is why you get. And you and I would. You were on my show earlier today and we were talking about the fact that they. So, Tyler, did you see how they. I think I saw you tweeting about this. How they used AI on the Alex Preddy photo to like kind of like.

[D]

Make it look hotter.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Insane. Totally insane.

[D]

It was funny because it was like. It was like he had slightly askew like eyes and hair and then he had like a sickly pallor on his skin. So they had to tan them up, jazz them up. Yeah, it was a very strange look.

[E]

It looked like legitimately like one of those really obvious face tunes that they did. They just put them through it.

[D]

That ended up why media outlets ran that photo.

[E]

Totally. That was the one they went with. They rolled with.

[D]

Which you do wonder, is this sustainable? Because as people joked it was like people would call him a martyr, but they still got the ick from his phone. It does seem like the, the termination loop on this is. It's just these people can't reproduce then. And so they just disappear and then you, you rebalance back to something that.

[B]

But, but, but they reproduce by other means. That's why, that's why they go after the kids. That's why they do the grooming. That's why they have all the stuff in the education. So they're. They, they reproduce by going after your. Your children basically and taking them over mentally. So and this guy who. And we've been doing some reading on this, that, you know, he was this Alex Preddy and you look at that first picture and actually, you know what? You know what? Let's do it. Let's do it. Dr. Chornish. Dale. Could. Could you describe the diet and, and the lifestyle of the man you see in the original photo here?

[A]

Yeah, the man I see in the original photo is. He's a vegan, I would imagine, or certainly he's living on some kind of plant based diet. He doesn't get much sun. I don't think he exercises. He looks like he's skinny fat. So, you know, he's got. He's probably got man boobs, he's probably got low testosterone or other. I should be talking the past tense, shouldn't I? Actually, he probably had low testosterone. Yeah. He's not a model of the jawline.

[B]

They've changed his jawline too.

[A]

They have, yeah. I mean, they've chattified him, they've tried to make him into a gigachad. I mean, it's funny because, you know, the high mark, I suppose for this is Luigi Mangione. Right.

[B]

Oh, wait, wait. And mouth breathing.

[A]

Mouth breathing, yeah. He's an habitual mouth breather too. I would imagine he probably has some unpleasant habits. Wouldn't really particularly want to look at his Internet.

[B]

Why is it that mouth breathing leads to that very tight neck that way?

[A]

Well, what it does is if you, let's say you have an undiagnosed allergy as a child, if you habitually mouth breathe as your skull is developing, your mouth is open, it pushes your jaw back, it recesses the jaw so that. Actually what happens is it looks like you don't have a chin. Right? I mean, you do have a chin, it's just in the wrong position. It's in your neck.

[D]

That's real.

[A]

This is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's absolutely.

[D]

How bad are we talking? That's insane. Allergies make you have a messed up head.

[A]

They can do. Yes.

[B]

If you're saying if they're perpetual.

[A]

Yeah, if you, if you're like a child and you have like an undiagnosed pet allergy and you're constantly breathing through your mouth for like 10 years, as you develop from a 6 year old to a 16 year old, then, yeah, your, your, your skull will not develop properly. Your, your jaw will become recessed and you'll basically have no chin. I mean, you do have a chin, but it's in your neck and it's back. That is why people have. That's why people are chinless. That's why if you see a chinless man, he probably is a habitual mouth breather.

[B]

They say the same thing about eating hard foods when you're young.

[A]

Yeah, there's, there's that too. So, I mean, you know, there's, there's a lot of anthropological evidence. You know, know, in traditional societies, diet is much harder. People chew more, you know, and in traditional societies as well, people use their mouths to do leather work and, you know, make rope and stuff. So people use their jaws and their facial muscles much more. We have a very soft Diet on the whole. I mean, if you eat a processed food diet, you're basically just swallowing your food without even chewing it. You know, it just kind of dissolves in your mouth and. And passes down your gullet. And yes, that means that the muscles of your face don't develop and the structure of your face doesn't develop as a result.

[B]

This is amazing.

[A]

I love this.

[B]

I could do this topic all day. So the book is The Last Men, Dr. Charles Cornish Dale, the synthesis of Maha and Maga, which I just think.

[D]

Is really cool and ova, I guess. But I think. I think our eggmeister will be very good on. On this topic, which is a very strange one, and I think people watching are gonna be a little baffled by it, but we need to talk about the penguins, Jack. The penguins. And so this one, I think I've had to explain this four or five separate times.

[B]

You kind of just explained it with the thumos.

[D]

Yeah, Yeah, I guess. I suppose he did. But this all happened kind of out of nowhere. I believe it began. Well, it began a decade ago, but then earlier this week, we had the Trump administration, the White House, actually, they put out a meme, as it were. Let's put up 480. And it basically says, like, embrace the penguin. Or. I can't see the text here, but you just posted this image and it shows the Greenland flag. So everyone was saying, oh, stupid dumb face. Mr. Trump thought that there are penguins on the North Pole. But it is not that. It's actually not about the North Pole. It's about what the penguin represents. And we had an additional one. The Department of War put out their own image saying to embrace the penguin. That's 478. Throw that up there. So we. Everyone's. Everyone's posting about penguins wandering off towards the mountains. And the weird thing is, is everyone's a fan of that penguin because it is committing suicide. Yeah, that's literally what it is. So we have this clip. Let. Is it still clip 487? Let's play that. It's from a.

[B]

No, that's not why we like the penguin. That's not. That's not why.

[D]

Let's let people judge for themselves. So let's play the clip from. From the Werner Herzog documentary.

[B]

Blake always does this, by the way. By the way, Ren. He always does this.

[A]

He.

[B]

He tells people what he thinks is the only reason that something's going on.

[C]

These penguins are all heading to the open water to the right. But one of them caught our eye, the one in the Center. He would neither go towards the feeding grounds at the edge of the ice nor return to the colony. Shortly afterwards, we saw him heading straight towards the mountains some 70km away. Dr. Ainley explained that even if he caught him and brought him back to the colony, he would immediately head right back for the mountains. But why? One of these disoriented or deranged penguins showed up at the New harbor diving camp already some 80km away from where it should be. The rules for the humans do not disturb or hold up the penguin. Stand still and let him go on his way. And here he is heading off into the interior of the vast continent. With 5,000km ahead of him, he is heading towards certain death.

[D]

I could listen. I could listen to Werner Herzog talk all. Narrate anything all day.

[E]

He is headed towards certain death. No, those.

[D]

But why?

[E]

This is. This is just another, you know, more propaganda to get people away from the ice walls. Don't go that direction.

[D]

Oh. Oh, you think that's what this is about?

[E]

Don't go towards the ice walls. No, I'm.

[D]

No, we should do that.

[B]

Tyler's the first one makes the reference.

[D]

What's behind the ice walls?

[B]

Tyler?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

What's behind the ice?

[E]

I don't know what's behind the ice walls.

[D]

What do you mean? Know what's behind the ice?

[B]

We don't know.

[D]

They don't tell you.

[E]

You don't?

[A]

No. This is.

[E]

It's certain death, obviously.

[B]

This week.

[A]

Yep. We know what's behind the ice.

[B]

We know what's behind.

[A]

We all. Home is behind Agartha. Home.

[D]

You're definitely gonna have to explain to other people what Agartha is, but. No, it is true. Like, there is a funny thing, like, I know you guys are joking about it.

[B]

I have no idea what that is.

[E]

He kind.

[D]

It kind of. The penguin basically is a meme because people are saying, embrace the penguins. Suicidal surge into the unknown.

[B]

Free suicide. No.

[A]

So you. There are these. There are, like, Redditors I saw who were saying, like, oh, yeah, the. The penguin represents the kind of deranged nihilism of capitalism where, you know, we're all just heading towards inevitable doom. No, it's. It's. Not that. It's. It's. Oswald Spengler writes about this. It's the Faustian spirit. The penguin embodies the Faustian spirit. The will, the desire to know, the desire to overcome, the desire to transcend and to achieve the transcendental, even at the cost of death. It's the great impulse that has motivated Western society. Western civilization and brought it to greatness. It's what built the Gothic cathedral. It's what resulted in calculus. It's what. It's what drove us to the moon and hopefully will drive us beyond. This penguin is experiencing this profound drive, the Faustian spirit.

[B]

And he's prepared to die the way that people have said this for years. The common phrase, the mountains beckon us. The mountains are beckoning us. He feels the call of the mountains. He must go and see what is on the other side. He must climb the mountain. He must achieve greater. That's why the penguin will not stop. Because, as we all know, outside of death, all failure is psychological.

[D]

Man, you're making it sound like we should just make the national. We should just change the national seal and have the suicide penguin as the official bird of the United States.

[B]

You don't know it's a suicidal penguin. It could be because you've never climbed the mountain, Blake. You don't know what's over there. There could be penguin utopia on the other.

[A]

He's in. He's in a Gotham right now.

[B]

He's in Agartha right now.

[D]

Yeah, I mean, I would say we could easily make a penguin our national bird and put it on the seal. If we annex Antarctica, I'm gonna keep flogging that hobby horse. That's how you. That's the. That's how you square the Greenland Circle. We should just seize Antarctica.

[B]

Tyler.

[A]

Tyler.

[B]

What.

[A]

What's.

[B]

What's your take on the penguin?

[E]

You know, I kind of. I think the penguin is just having a rough week. And you know.

[A]

What?

[D]

Mrs. Penguin told him he's been drinking too much.

[E]

We're not even gonna say why. We're not even gonna say what caused honking too much. We're not even gonna say why. We're not gonna talk about the garbage he forgot to take out or, you know, the, you know, the laundry he was supposed to pick up right away or, you know, whatever it is.

[B]

Tyler, this sounds awfully personal.

[E]

No, no, it just.

[D]

Wait.

[E]

Speaking of, Nobody's ever been in that position. Listen, there's just. Sometimes a male penguin just needs to run towards the mountains, right? And just.

[D]

Well, you mentioned the schlong. I think there's a schlonking connection to me. I'm thinking back to fourth grade science and emperor penguins. I don't know if other penguins do it, but definitely the emperors. They sit on the eggs, right? They kind of just squat on those eggs to keep them warm.

[E]

Yeah, they have. They have a huge.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, that's In March of the penguins, right. The one has to sit there and the others go out to get food, I think.

[D]

Yeah. So you can't schlock their eggs, and there's no other eggs.

[B]

I have a problem with that.

[D]

Maybe they. Maybe that's why they went mad. If you sit on the egg constantly, but you can't schlonk the egg, do you go that you have to flee to Agartha, as it were?

[B]

Yeah, I'm pro penguin. I'm pro penguin.

[A]

Me too.

[B]

Producer Angelo says Mrs. Penguin found those text messages on his ice.

[D]

His ice phone.

[A]

Very cute.

[E]

I like the idea of, you know, again, I think that there is real need, especially when you're. You're born into a community, you spend in a community. I think there's probably just a certain percentage of people who have to break away from that, and that includes penguins, too. Penguins just. There's just a certain percentage of penguins who have to just break out and just get away. And they don't have. They don't have screamo music and, you know, I don't know.

[D]

Wait, you listen to Screamo Music and.

[E]

ESPN3 to lean into, so you listen to screamo music? I'm just saying that just.

[D]

You seem really familiar with screamo music.

[E]

That just doesn't exist for penguins. So they gotta just run towards the mountains. So.

[A]

But that is the spirit.

[B]

That is the Western spirit. That's the spirit that. That's the spirit of why Turning Point USA was founded. The spirit that you can do more. The spirit that you can. That you can do something. You don't just have to be. You don't just have to be a penguin. Who's in the herd, who's in the flock. You can go and do something different.

[D]

Turning penguin us. Antarctica.

[B]

No, no, no. Blake.

[A]

Blake.

[B]

Turning Point, Antarctica.

[A]

Turning Point. Agartha.

[B]

Turning Point agartha. Turning point. McMurdo.

[E]

Turning boy. Agartha has been actually. Has been actually operating for some time now.

[D]

Oh, it has? Okay.

[B]

Tyler, not. Dude, we're live. We can't.

[A]

Yeah, don't tell them. Don't tell them.

[B]

You must protect your energy crystals.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

At all.

[A]

At all costs. Oh, man.

[B]

We're in big trouble now, so. But the one thing that I wanted to get into as well, which. Which kind of goes back to Alex Preddy, is Obama. Did you guys see this Obama statement that he put out, like, in the wake of all this, where he's talking about, oh, we have to, like, support our neighbors and what's going on in many. You guys See this thing?

[D]

Yeah, I saw it.

[A]

Only.

[D]

Only because you sent it to me. Because Pozo, I don't follow Barack Obama and actively hang on every word that he says. But I understand some people are a little different.

[B]

And Obama, we do do a show here, you know, and he's kind of like the leader of the opposition, but, you know, whatever.

[A]

So.

[B]

So he. He had this link and that he. That he posted up, and he said, here's your resources that we can use to, you know, to support our neighbors. And it's weird because I guess neighbor is like the new comrade, the new tovarish. Right, Tyler? Tovarish to that.

[A]

They.

[B]

They don't even refer to illegal aliens any, because they realize that illegal aliens and undocumented, and it all just got too wonky and too silly. So now they're just saying neighbors, which is the weirdest thing. It's very communist. But then here's what's crazy, though. So it links to a Vox article where it says, how to help the resistance to ICE in Minnesota and beyond. And you scroll down, and it's got all sorts of wild stuff. And yeah, it's got the normal, like, donate to legal funds and stay in with Minnesota, which, by the way, I'm pretty sure is very similar to the bail funds that Michelle Obama, or, excuse me, Kamala Harris shared back in 2020. But then if you scroll down and keep going down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down. This is. This is the weirdest one. It says there are other ways to volunteer. My pit bull is family has been helping vulnerable families take care of their pets, including when an owner is detained by ice. And so I clicked on it. I said, my pit bull is family. What is this? And it says, let's lick discrimination.

[A]

Let's bite discrimination's face off.

[B]

Discrimination. Volunteer with us. My pitfall is families. What's going on with the pit bulls? And why is it. I'm sorry, what is going. Why are pit bulls considered the. The pet of. And you look at these people, they're. They're all antifa. Why is pitbull like the antifa pet?

[A]

Well, there's. Well, there's this long history of people claiming that actually pitbull is a euphemism for a certain demographic. Right. And so when people are talking.

[B]

I'm not familiar with that at all.

[A]

No. Well, so they're saying, you know, like, pit bulls are only 13% of the dog population, but they commit 60% of the savage attacks.

[B]

Is that true?

[A]

I think. Well, I mean, yeah, pit bulls Definitely commit a disproportionate.

[B]

We kind of covered this before, right?

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, Pit bulls are a giant, you know, killing machines out and about, eating babies, which, you know, they're eating the babies other dogs won't eat as, as they might say.

[B]

And in fact, your, I think your, your friend Cremu just had a situation with this.

[D]

Yeah, Cremeau, our friend down in Austin, he was, he was attacked by a pit bull. And we were just learning today, one of our staffers, they had a parent who was attacked by a pit bull in the past. There's, and I know our neighbor back in South Dakota, they had like a cousin who, who was killed by a pit bull. Like, it's amazing how many of these you can find. If you. Yeah. Killed. That was an act. It was sort of. They, you have less sympathy because they, I think were running like a breeding operation or they had some like, large number of dogs. And you know, despite having all those lovely dogs that wouldn't hurt a fly, the dogs consumed them, as it were, which is disgusting.

[B]

And there's, there's, there's a ton of statistics that people can go on this. So it's America's most dangerous breeds. And, and you can find the data. It's, it's very clear actually. Where, where is this from? Dogsbite.org where it says that breeds and types of dogs involved in fatal attacks on humans in the US from 2005 to 2017. It's got Doberman pinscher, six boxer, seven labs, nine, huskies, 13. It's across the United States, fatal attacks. American bulldog, 15, mixed breed, 17, German shepherd, 20, Rottweiler, 45 pitbull, 285 attacks from pit bulls. And so this, this has to do. And this is, this is where people get really upset on, on this because it has to do with how pit bulls were bred, which happened originally in England.

[A]

It did.

[B]

So I'm going to, I'm going to get through it to you to explain this to us. How were pit bulls originally bred?

[A]

Well, as far as I know, I mean, they were, they were bred as fighting dogs.

[B]

I mean, fighting dogs.

[A]

They're bred to be. I mean, I think they were literally thrown in pits and.

[B]

Well, that's where the name. So the name comes from them being thrown in fighting pits.

[A]

Yep. So you would, you breed the most. Over generations, you know, constant cycles of breeding, you, you create the most aggressive dog that you can throw, throw in a pit that will rip another dog to shreds for the enjoyment of a Crowd, you know, the most, it's. It's blood sport.

[B]

You know the word bowl that comes from the fact that they would actually have the. The dogs fighting actual cows.

[A]

Bulls. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. They wouldn't just fight other dogs. That. And they would fight rats, but they would also fight bulls. They were savage enough, if you threw enough of them in a pit with a. With a bull to kill a bull or certainly to, you know, to savage it in a very, very nasty way. So these are dogs that have been bred, that are genetically predisposed. Their whole existence is violence.

[B]

Well, I know. So this, of course, is the thought crime, because every single time this happens, every single time we find a story like this, we get. I get flooded with comments. I should look in the live chat right now where people are saying. Where people are saying, oh, that's just a bad owner. Oh, that's just a bad owner. They don't know what they're doing. They didn't train them right.

[A]

Bad owner makes it worse. But I mean, it's always in there waiting to get out. And I mean, Premier. I think he had the dog on his lap. He was petting it.

[B]

Well, we met him at the Natal Con down in Austin. He told me the same story.

[A]

He's a nice guy. Petting the dog on his lap and he just bites his face. I mean, you know, what can you do about that other than wage a relentless war of extermination against all pit bulls.

[D]

Oh, boy.

[B]

So what's the status of pit bulls and bully breeds in the uk?

[A]

They're largely banned. And in fact, I was gonna say my cousin in the 1990s was bitten on the eyebrow and still has a very bad scar. They used to call them American pit bulls back then.

[B]

Oh, it's funny.

[A]

Yeah. Which is funny considering they were bred in the uk.

[B]

But, yeah, the reason I knew that bulldogs were originally British was because. Because of the British bulldog. The wrestler in wwf.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Classic. So good. But, yeah, I mean, I think there's. So there have been a lot of attacks in the UK as well.

[B]

So they've phased out the breed completely.

[A]

They have, yeah. I mean, obviously you get the. Like here, then you get the sort of people whining and crying and moaning and saying that it's discriminatory and that it's not the dogs, it's the owners, and all the same stuff gets said. But, yeah, they do exactly what they do here. They attack and kill people, kill women, kill children.

[B]

So, Blake, what do we attribute this to? Because what he's Saying, and what we're looking up says the statistics are very clear on this, that this one breed is particularly violent. And look, you can just go to daily. Well, what's really incredible, headline after headline backing it up.

[D]

Well, what's really incredible to me, it's like, okay, this dog is clearly a dangerous one. And what's remarkable and what I think makes this relevant is the truly pathological response that clearly a lot of people, simultaneously, there are people who want to get a pit bull because they know it is a terrible dog, and they, like, want to argue that the pit bull is not a bad dog, that it's, like, misunderstood or.

[E]

Or whatever.

[D]

I mean, we see it with this charity, supposedly this charity, My pit bull is family. Allegedly. It's like, oh, it's just for people who need support with their pets. But they didn't say, my dog is family. They didn't say, my pet is family. They chose a pit bull. If they have that photo that we took of their, like, table that they have, like, they have a freaking pit bull mascot. And, like, they really lean into the pit bull imagery. This is specifically a type of dog that there's a ton of them in shelters. Why are there a ton of them in shelters? Because they're horrible dogs. And so people have to ditch them because they bite their toddler, but they don't want to put it down. And it's. It's truly. It's an insight into the psychological state of a lot of people, not exclusively on the left, frankly, that they. They want to go out of their way to get the dog that is more dangerous for them to get the dog that is more dangerous to other people, as I suppose a form of pretty aggressive virtue signaling. Either because they want to prove that it's the owner, not the dog, until, you know, they turn out to be the bad owner whose dog goes. Goes nuts.

[B]

It.

[D]

It's this. It's this true will towards ugliness to this will towards danger.

[E]

What ended up happening with this kid.

[B]

Right, though is like, they know it's dangerous and, like, they want it to be. Which kid? Like, that's why they want it.

[E]

What happened. What happened with that kid in that video?

[D]

I'm not sure. I think we just got B roll on it.

[E]

But yeah, I get. I've got into, like, the algorithm on Instagram. I follow every victim of every Pitbull attack. I don't know why, it just pops up on my stuff.

[D]

But, like, well, I guess doing it, they're gonna.

[E]

I keep watching, but there's A lot. Yeah, there's a lot of pitbull attacks that are completely underreported. It's crazy. There's probably. So this is the question I have, especially for thought crime. Is there more damage done by pit bulls or by school shooters?

[D]

Probably school shooters.

[B]

What would define. Define damage, though?

[E]

No, I know. I'm like genuinely curious.

[D]

Dogs, as bad as pit bulls are, they don't kill that many people. In like a national context, I think maybe what, like 10, 15 people get killed by pit bulls a year?

[E]

Okay.

[D]

I mean that. That's.

[A]

Yeah, but. But I mean, how. How many. What I suppose you have to do is you have to do some kind of per capita analysis, but it's like.

[E]

It'S every year and then we're. And like. I mean there's.

[D]

That's part of it. I think pitbulls are an American thing. And like. And like America and its cultural imperialist sphere. I don't think you're going to find pit bulls if you visit Italy or something.

[E]

But my part of my part of my point is I think that a lot of this actually goes severely underreported. I think there's a lot more pit bull attacks happening in America than we actually even know about because nobody ever talks. I tell you, I see a ton of this content.

[D]

Yeah, I guess it would only go if a got reported, like to the hospital. There's probably a lot of people who just get bit and just tough it out.

[E]

I mean, there's people. I mean that. I mean, again, yeah, like, nobody ever gets held to account either. Like where people. I mean, this happens a lot where dogs will attack. And you hear obviously about people suing each other over dog attacks. But there's also probably significantly more people who actually never sue their family member or whoever for a dog attack. Like, you're not going to sue your own family most of the time when you get attacked by a dog just doesn't happen.

[B]

Do you think it's not reported? No. And it's something where, like, I think so, obviously.

[A]

Right. The.

[B]

The thought crime here is the question of the tabula rasa. Right.

[A]

This is the heredity.

[B]

You know, heredity genetics. You know, is. Is there a reason that, you know, people from certain countries are a certain way and you know, the Somalis, the, you know, Europeans, whatever. This is the thought crime that. That comes up. You know, can you overcome your heredity? Can you overcome. And certainly you were just talking about that with. With your book, is to say that there are lots of factors. It is kind of A hodgepodge of all these different things. However, there is still this innate nature, and twin studies have borne this out over and over and over again. Go, go read the book Blueprint, if you want to check that out. But also, I think maybe if we're doing a psa, it's, hey, guys, if. If your dog's not good around kids, get the dog out there before. Before anything bad happens. Just. Or, or. But. And if you do have a pit bull, then maybe just don't bring them around kids.

[D]

And also embrace the message from Obama. Embrace the message from Obama that pit bulls are a lib breed and a lib. Cause I say that only because two years ago, Florida banned local bans on. On pit breeds. They basically said you are pit bulls from things. I don't know why Florida did that. They had a good. They had a good run on a lot of things, and that is a terrible law.

[B]

Wait, wait, Florida.

[D]

Florida at the state level banned local bans on pit bulls.

[B]

So you, You.

[E]

You can't stop. You can't stop.

[D]

You basically can't ban them.

[E]

You can't like locally, like a local community can't put in like a city or town ordinance against pit bull.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Or like a public housing ordinance against it.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Or like even like an HOA couldn't like ban Pitbull.

[A]

No.

[D]

No. So that was, that was a big mistake by Florida in my opinion. It's like, it's like when they get psyopped into those hair discrimination.

[E]

Yeah, but Pitbull the rapper probably would be really upset with a Pitbull ban in Florida. I'm just saying.

[D]

Could we ban Pitbull the rapper?

[E]

No, but I mean, it's just bad for business if there's a pit bull. I mean, that's, that's bad for business.

[D]

If, like we ban rappers.

[E]

That headline Pitbull ban Florida, like, that's not great for. I mean, I bet a record label was. Probably had a lobbyist involved with that.

[D]

So might be right.

[E]

Just saying.

[B]

No. Send in your comments. Send in your questions. What do you think about the pit bull question? Let's go around the horn. Give everyone. Give out your coordinates because it is a shorter episode today. It is what it is. We do what we have to do. Rogue nationalist.

[A]

Okay, so buy my new book, the Last Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity from Amazon hardcover kindle audiobook. I'm BabyGravy9 on Twitter. I have a substack, raweggstack.com. yeah, that's where you'll find me check it out.

[E]

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[D]

And I'm Blake. You can see me on the opposite side there every day on the Charlie Kirk show. And then also, I liked it better when I wasn't on social media, but events have conspired to force me onto it. So I am@blake SNF on X. I tweet maybe three times a day.

[B]

Got it.

[A]

By the way.

[B]

By the way, Tyler, my brother's out of. Out of Minneapolis. Just saying. Just saying. If you're looking for some. Some. Some good hardened door knockers out there, you have a.

[E]

You have a Somali brother. I didn't know that. That's cool.

[B]

Look, all you have to do is feed him rice and bananas. That's literally. He. He will work for more rice and bananas if you just keep like a. Like a. Like a bag. Like a juicy bag filled with rice and bananas. That's all he needs. He can just sleep on the street. He's not used to, you know, like. Like the niceties of modern life or anything like that. It's kind of like a yurt, basically. Getting.

[D]

Getting out. Getting out the vote is a lot more than bananas and rice, Jack. It's like bananas and rice.

[E]

It's like. It's like commandeering a ship. It's a little bit like that.

[B]

It's a little bit like commandeering the ship and saying, I am the captain now.

[D]

Yeah, it's a little bit like running a daycare center.

[E]

It's a little bit like not running a daycare center every day, actually.

[B]

Hey, you know what they say, guys? You live and you learn. You live and you learn. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, go out there and commit more thought crime.

[C]

Thought crime is death.