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THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 80 — ADHD? Karmelo Anthony Press Conference? Katy Perry In Space?
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Charlie
From the age of Big Brother.
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Blake
If they want to get you, they'll get you. The NSA specifically targets the communications of everyone. They're collecting your communications. Okay, everybody, it is Thought Crime Thursday. We are live from an undisclosed location in Pullman, Washington. Not every day do you host Not Crime in Pullman, Washington. It is the. Are you sure, Charlie?
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Brian
You look like you might be trapped in, like, a. Did you get shipped to El Salvador?
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Jack
This is a hostage video.
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Blake
It was. Yeah. Does this look like a hostage video? I blame Brian completely. We could have had the Palouse as the background, but instead we decided to have some sort of bunker. Welcome to Thought Crime, everybody. The topics today are going to be fun and exciting. I think our first one is adhd, if I'm not mistaken, which, honestly, we need Jack for ADHD segment. How could we possibly do adhd?
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Brian
Let's do Carmelo Anthony without Jack. Let's do Carmelo Anthony.
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Blake
Oh, yes.
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Brian
You weren't here last week for that, right?
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Blake
So Carmelo Anthony, not to be confused with the other Carmelo Anthony, this is the Carmelo with a K, not Carmelo with a C. Kamal Anthony, of course, played for the Denver Nuggets. Right? He was a Syracuse guy, right, Brian and the Knicks. Yeah, Syracuse. I think he won it. I think he won a national title for Syracuse with Jim BOEHEIM back in, like, 010203. So this young man was named after Carmelo Anthony. Carmelo with a K. And it's very obvious what happened in this situation. I actually don't even want to speak out of turn here. Blake, I want you to give me the most pro Carmelo argument, like Strongman, the Carmelo case, because the audience has to understand that there is a widespread movement now amongst the black community in the left to Support Carmelo, from GoFundMes to selling T shirts. It's growing. It's not a majority of the country, but it's a disturbing minority. I want to know, am I missing something? I keep asking that. Blake and I have been traveling together the last week. I'm like, blake, what am I missing here? What am I missing here? What am I missing here? So, Blake, go through the facts that we know about Austin Metcalfe and Carmelo Anthony and then all the recent developments today. Am I missing something? Because this certainly seems like murder.
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Brian
Yeah, sure thing, Charlie. So first of all, this all happened. I think it started about two weeks ago, and there was a tragic murder that took place in Texas and in Dallas. And the situation was initially, it was young man Austin metcalfe stabbed to death, stabbed in the heart in an altercation with Carmelo Anthony. And the original report was that it was over like a seating dispute. What came out once we got the police report and so on was that it sounds like there was a track meet and Carmelo was. The description was that he was under the other team's tent. So they have these different tents, different booth areas for different competing teams and he was under the one for another team. We still don't really know why I haven't seen that reported out in detail so far, why he was maybe there because it could have been he was hanging out with someone. It could have been he was causing trouble in some other way. We don't know the details there yet. And then the report in the police report is that Austin Metcalfe approached and said that Carmelo had to leave, he had to get out of there, and that he may have touched him in some capacity to say, hey, get out. And Carmelo said something to the extent of if you touch me again, you will regret it. And then according to the report, it's that Austin grabbed him. It doesn't say he like tackled him or punched him. It says he grabbed him. So that's believable. Like if he was trying to say get out, like grab him, try to hoist him away. And then what the account says is that Carmelo Paul pulled out a knife and stabbed him right in the heart. And he basically died on the spot he had as a twin brother. He died in his twin brother's arms. And so this has become a. It sounds like it should just be a tragic teenage murder to me, but it has become a big cause celeb that Carmelo, his family put up a GoFundMe for his legal expenses, which I think we all agreed last week. And I think you'd agree, Charlie, like he has the right to a legal defense. He has the right to fundraise for it. We've seen that be an issue in the past, but it raised many hundreds of thousands of dollars. And I think what really caught people's attention was the lines that were being used on that GoFundMe and on Twitter where it's like variations of that. Carmelo was engaged in self defense, basically because he was. He was grabbed. And. But also these takes where it's almost like, like Austin was disrespecting him. Like he, he was standing his ground because it wasn't right that anyone should tell. Tell him to go somewhere else or, you know, that if he shoved him, that was somehow justifying a lethal response. This has continued to gain steam because in the past week, a judge drastically lowered the bail requirement for Carmelo to get out of jail. It was a million dollars, and it was lowered to, I believe, $250,000, making it a lot easier to meet. And then they made a big spectacle that he came home and they were tweeting and stuff. You know, Carmelo is home now. And then that leads up to today where. This is why we have a good reason to continue talking about it. The family held a press conference. Now, two things happened at that. First, Austin Metcalfe's father was at this press conference. We don't really know why yet. We're seeing B roll on screen right now. He showed up and the family was not. The family of Carmelo Anthony was not happy about this. And it seems that police or security spoke to him and basically said, please leave. And he. So he did leave. There was not a fight or anything.
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Jack
And then the family proceeded like, nobody got stabbed.
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Brian
Nobody got stabbed. Nobody there. He did not pull out a knife and use it on any of the officers. I think that would have been frowned.
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Jack
Nobody tried to stab Jeff Metcalf, okay.
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Brian
No, no, Nobody tried to stab him. And then this is really wild. The family and their supporters, their attorney or not attorney, there was like an activist leader who was with them.
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Jack
Dominique Alexander, right?
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Brian
Yeah, Dominique Alexander. They gave this address where they basically said it was highly disrespectful of Jeff Metcalf to be present at this press conference. I mean, it was probably maybe inflammatory. I don't know if disrespectful is the term I would use. And then. But this is where you wanted a defense of the best Steelman defense of the family. The mother of Carmelo Anthony gave a statement, and I think maybe we have. Do we have selections from that video? What would the number of it be?
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Jack
Yeah, Dominique Alexander saying that Jeff Metcalf was.
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Brian
We don't have that. Not that one. Do we have of the mother kind of relaying her experience. Because what she said was she did say. Regardless of what you feel about. Yeah, let's. So let's play this. Let's play clip 326. This is from the mother.
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Dominique Alexander
The lies and false accusations that have been said about us, especially over the past week, has been overwhelming. The lies in their amplification put my family in danger as well as everyone in our community. Everyone involved in the investigation, from the police, the attorneys and the court staff. Our son deserved the same rights under the law. That everyone is afforded to. He's been raised in a two parent home with structure, stability, love. And we put God first in everything that we do. We believe in the Constitution, we believe in the laws of this state, but those laws must apply to all of us, not just some of us.
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Brian
And another thing that wasn't in that clip, but she says, she said, you know, regardless of how you feel about what happened with our son, she says, you know, his parents and his siblings are not responsible for that. She said that they have a daughter who's a teenager who, who has been afraid to sleep. I believe it was afraid to sleep in their own home because of that. And that's why it's been discussed that they were finding new housing arrangements. And that's where she says she complained in there about the lies. There have been these claims on X and elsewhere that the family immediately used the GoFundMe to buy a mansion or to I think buy a Cadillac Escalade and various things like that. And they said those are lies. And as far as I know from what I've looked in, those are not true. They may be renting a new place, but that is what they've said they're going to do. And there's no evidence that they, you know, bought a brand new car with the, with money or anything. But that has been the latest development. But you still see these very disturbing comments on the GoFundMe or on the gifts and go, whichever they used where they're saying like, like throw up 339. Yeah, exactly. So we have one. Nobody knows what happened under that tent but the individuals involved. And this is Willpie, he says since they will support theirs no matter what, I'm standing with my black brother. And then he has the, that brown, that Black Lives Matter fist there. And there's 44 hearts on that remark. So several dozen people strongly agree with that. And there have been others to that effect over the past several weeks. So this is very clearly becoming a racialized situation, Charlie. And I know people want to hear what your take on it is.
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Blake
Well, I think it's obviously been racialized since the beginning in the sense where you have a black perpetrator and a white victim. We don't know if race played into it, but you have to ask the question, like the media coverage of this and the kid gloves and the sympathetic. Of course there's a racial component to this. And it's a white kid that was murdered by a black kid for no good reason because he touched him. Because he touched Him. And I just want to just say this to our side. Let's not take the bait at some of the worst actors that would love to try to start a race conflict war while Donald Trump is president. While it's very obvious that Carmelo Anthony here committed murder. Now, Carmelo Anthony probably won't end up spending much time in prison, maybe 10 to 15 years. But I think it's very, very important that we just try to slow this down and allow the justice system to do its thing. Carmelo Anthony deserves due process, the presumption of innocence. I'd love to hear all of what his attorneys have to say. They got lots of legal defense money there. And the elements involved here is so concerning because he touched him and he just takes out a knife and he starts stabbing him. Let's play cut 336. This is Dominique Alexander. Play cut 336.
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Austin Metcalfe
Black people in America while the current Occupant sits at 1600 Pennsylvania. Black people in America don't have to pull the race card. It's what we live as a reality every day. It's what we have to teach our children. We don't want to, but we have to. We don't like to, but if we want to sleep at night, we got to. I ain't pulling no race car. I live it. I'm reminded all the time that I'm a black man in America.
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Blake
Okay, so he's now invoking Trump. I have no idea what he just said. I know the words. I heard what he said. I have no idea what that means. None. I've literally no idea what that means. While the current Occupant sits at 1600 Avenue, black people in America don't have to pull the race card. It's what we live as a reality every day. It's what we have to teach our children. We don't want to, but we have to. We all like to, but if we want to sleep at night, we got to. This is a guy who has watched way too many Martin Luther King Jr. Videos and thinks he's like the next civil rights leader. That made absolutely no sense. No one understands what you're saying. No. You're like black people in America while the current Occupant sits at 1600 Avenue. We don't have to play the race card. I ain't playing no race card. I live it. I'm reminded all the time. So let me get straight. You're part of the platoon and the team representing the black kid who murdered the white kid and you're now trying to bring race into this and also try to bring in Donald Trump. And this is where the Al Sharpton is the world. And all these people, they, Al Sharpton hasn't pounced on this yet, but they are, they are licking their chops, they're foaming at the mouth because they want to try to turn this into a big Donald Trump thing, to try to make this a race war. And let's not fall for that at all. Let's slow down, let's internalize really what's happened here. And yeah, I mean my thoughts are this is a tragedy. I want to, I keep on saying over and over again, am I missing anything? Am I missing anything? This is a very open and shut, clean cut case of a black kid who had a knife when he shouldn't have because somebody touched him and he murders him in cold blood and then he dies in his twins arms. That's, that's sick and disturbing stuff. Is Jack with us or are we still working on the tech here?
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Charlie
Right.
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Blake
Jack, what are your thoughts?
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Charlie
Yeah, Charlie, I mean this is a situation where, I mean it started out as a tragedy, but it's now been turned into a circus really by the conduct of this individual who, look, you know, I'm always one of these guys who says, you know, don't make it about the family. You know, let's, let's leave the families out of it. Let's just talk about the individuals who were, you know, involved in the case. But this family advocate that, you know, whatever people want to call this guy or whatever he calls himself was hired by the family. So this was who they chose after receiving all this money from the givesend go that's, you know, going into the account there, huge, huge outpouring and suddenly it's turned into a circus. And they say, don't make this about race. Don't make this about race. When he himself is the one making the entire thing about race. It's, it's classic cry bully ism where don't do this, don't do this, don't do this. You see, this is all about race. You guys are making it all about race. So he's attacking you while doing the exact same thing he's accusing you of doing. And I just, you know, he attacks Trump, he attacks all, you know, that all of society, you know, says, you know, basically makes allusions to systemic racism, you know, filming these videos as if it's some kind of documentary. And what, what he's really doing with the press conference today and it's just my draw hit the floor when I saw that they were doing this. It's a classic example of Darvo and Darvo. And I had a tweet out on this earlier today. It's called Darvo, and it's a narcissistic tactic. But you see it happen a lot with certain types of politics typically found on the far left or in grievance politics, where it goes through deny, attack, and then reverse victim and offender. This is also, by the way, that they threw the father of Austin Metcalfe out of the room because of course, you cannot play the victim card when an actual victim is present. And so not only did they, you know, kind of ironically demand that the father of Austin Metcalfe move from his seat, but when he refused to move from his seat, well, they called the police on the father of the boy who was stabbed to death and bled out in his twin brother's arms at a track meet.
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Jack
Yeah, okay, you raised the crux of the point here. Oh, and those clips were just deleted from my chat. The point is here, this family member, this mom, actually seemed earnest in her remarks. It felt sincere to me. Like maybe she is a good Christian woman. And listen, great parents can sometimes have wayward kids. Okay, that happens. It's not always the parents fault. It isn't. I believe that they may not be guilty of anything here. What I will tell you they are guilty of is hiring this clown named Dominique Alexander. An absolute clown show. And his. This clip, Jack, it's three one seven. You guys get it ready. Of him, basically castigating the father for showing up at this press conference is something that made my jaw absolutely drop to the floor. I couldn't believe it when I saw it. I think it shook the Internet. This guy is a clown. He's an imposter. He's a fraud. He's a con man. This, this family is guilty so far of one thing, and that is hiring this man. And I absolutely judge them for hiring this man. Now I get it. They're disoriented. Nobody knows what to do in a situation like this. I can tell you one thing you don't do. Hire this man. We should play it317.
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Austin Metcalfe
All I'm going to say so it don't be asked later, is that was disrespectful and just shows you all the character who is not invited. He knows that it's inappropriate to be near this family, but he did it. And so I say to people, actions speak louder than words. Okay, what he has failed into is the political operatives that want to make this thing a political thing of hate, yet bigotry and yet racism. We have conservative operatives that have been posting non stop about this case.
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Jack
Okay, Charlie, I really don't, I really.
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Blake
Don'T like this person. I mean, I don't know really what to say that I can say, but I'll just say that this is the worst. There's like an entire industry of people like this Benjamin Crump is like this where they are just, they're not just ambulance, they're not ambulance chasers, they are crisis chasers and they get in front of the cameras. And the fact the media is giving this any sort of hearing. The Dallas Morning News family of Frisco stabbing suspect under attack with harassment threats. Mothers say, oh really? Your son murdered somebody. Oh really? And now you hire this clown to go on and on about this is racism. This is racism. I mean, honestly, why don't you raise a kid that knows not to have a, a knife on him at a track meet, B, not to go use that knife. And by the way, just so we're clear, there is image after image of K. Marlo Anthony, Carmelo Anthony now with a C, not exactly living a boy scout life. Lots of images of him kind of playing into all this. And so while there might have been a two parent home raising Carmel Anthony, I don't know what his parents were doing all day long. These parents should have a little bit of contrition. These parents should have a little bit of shame. Like where is the shame in these parents? Look at these images on screen. He's got like an AK47 with a gang sign. This is in a nice area in Frisco, Texas. And the lack of any self awareness for these parents to think, yeah, we raised a murderer. Oh, I know what we're gonna do. We're gonna now go play the victim. Because people said mean stuff to us. Blake.
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Brian
Yeah, I'm a little more sympathetic to them just in that like I'm generally, you know, in the war between nature and nurture. Over the last 20 years, like nature has kind of been kicking the butt of nurture and that's not the answer. We like people like the idea that we can very strongly influence how people turn out. But a lot of people are just kind of rotten. And I would say, unfortunately, I suspect this kid was in a bad, was going to go a bad way no matter what. They can love him, they can support him, but some people just are going to be dangerous and violent individuals. And I'M also just. Do I wish they were behaving a bit differently? Yeah, I do. I would like the idea that someone could just be properly horrified and ashamed that someone in their family did an unspeakable evil. But one of the things about family is those are the people who we, like, have to generally associate with, and they kind of do support you when nobody else will. And sometimes that's really unpleasant. Something that comes to mind, I think, was that that creep in, that creep in Idaho who allegedly murdered all of those. All those girls at the college and.
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Charlie
Oh, Brian.
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Blake
It's where I am right now.
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Brian
I'm literally, watch out, watch out, Charlie. But because, you know, the real killer be out there. But. But I remember the family issued a statement that basically said, like, this is horrifying, but, like, he is our son and we are going to.
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Charlie
Brian Coburger.
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Brian
Yeah, like, we are going to do what we can. It was like, a pretty anodyne statement overall, but they were saying, like, he is our son and we will try to support him. And I remember, like, one of his sisters got fired from her job as a result of this because she, she was just related to this bad guy. And I think most people responded with, wait, that's a gross thing to do. You should not punish a collective group of people for what one person did. Even if it is possible, like, maybe there was inept parenting in there, maybe there was negligence in there. That's very possible. And I remember we were also, you know, we had the discussion here when they prosecuted the parents because that son, like, got a gun and then committed a shooting with it. That was definitely, like, in that case, it was definitely inept, grossly negligent parenting by the parents involved. That they had a son who there were clear red flags that he was dangerous, and yet they allowed him to, you know, obtain a weapon. And I think we all basically agreed it's still not good to normalize, like, prosecuting parents for what their kids do. Or at least we said if they were going to do it, it should be done equally. But it was. There was also a racial angle to that one too. I think we thought so. My, My general disposition. This will get me called, you know, probably a cuck by the comments or something. But I'm not going to get really angry at the family other than, yeah, they. They hired this, like, local activist parasite who. You Google his name and you get the 2016 article where he goes to jail for breaking probation. And it says, like, eighth time in jail because he'd previously beat A child and done all this bad stuff. I suspect they don't know about all of that. They probably. But like you should. These people ooze. They're disgusting individuals. They very obviously are. So I wish they hadn't done that, but I will not get as angry as a lot of people do that they support their son, people support their kids. That is how the world is.
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Jack
Well, Blake, I mean, we. We need to. There. There was a graphic that just came up there.
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Blake
The.
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Jack
These are all of Dominique Alexander, the real clown in this whole story. I mean, Carmelo Anthony deserves to be, you know, criminal number one, but criminal number two here, one B really is Dominic Alexander. These are all his mug shots. Go to 329. This is. Somehow he's. He's also a crossdresser. So I'm. I'm not exactly sure.
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Brian
Little sugar in the tank of that photo.
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Jack
Yeah. So just to give you a smattering of this guy's rap sheet. 2009, arrested, convicted in 2011. Charged with causing serious bodily injury to a child, a 2 year old first degree felony. He pleaded guilty in 2011. Received 10 years of deferred adjudication probation. 2011. 2013, probation violations. Violated probation terms from the 2011 child injury case multiple times, including stealing a car, check forgery, and involvement in a domestic disturbance leading to a police chase in Carrollton. 2015, cited by Arlington Police for offensive physical contact against a family member. 2016, sentenced to two years in prison in August 2016 for multiple probation violations and the 2011 child injury case. 2017, arrested in Denton county. And on and on and on. So this guy is a real swindler, a real con artist, and somehow he's locked arms with this. With this family. And. And so, like, while I'm tempted to be sympathetic to this mom who said they put God first. Okay, you're speaking my love language, lady. I get it. Like, I want to have sympathy for you. What on earth are you doing with this guy? How did he show up? Where did he come from? Is there like a Ben Crump back backup, like, call center somewhere where these guys, like, I'll bend. Not available. So this guy just slides right in. Like, this is insane to me. And the fact that they sitting there letting him do his thing is insane. Revolting.
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Charlie
When you order Ben Crump on Teemu, you end up. You end up with this guy.
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Jack
Like the AI slot version of Ben Crump. Yeah, yeah.
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Charlie
Basically, yeah.
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Brian
And I'm sorry, but family. You know what will happen?
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Charlie
The family. The family didn't have to choose this guy. They could have picked someone they clearly want to. Right. She's standing right there throughout all of this. She isn't, she's, she's endorsing everything that he's saying. She doesn't want to say, hey, let's not racialize this. In fact, it was the father of Austin Metcalfe who originally said, let's not racialize this. Let's just make this day after Jack Individuals. Yeah. The day after he said, I don't want to make this a race thing. And then all of a sudden it was the family of the perpetrator. You know, I'll say alleged perpetrator, whatever, for legal purposes. But he admitted it was not the family of the son. That's what I mean. Like, he did admit to it. So he said, it's not alleged I did this. It's. I'm not laughing. I shouldn't be laughing. But it's just such a joke.
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Blake
It's.
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Charlie
It's clown world. This is clown world on steroids. This family has decided to tear apart their entire community. By the way, by the way, at one point, I think it's later in the press conference, he even, he even starts attacking the school district. I think it's the Frisco ISD Independent School District because they're going to be expelling Carmelo. He said, how dare you expel him? He's only weeks away from graduation. He stabbed a kid to death. He stabbed a kid to death.
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Brian
Right.
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Charlie
An unarmed teenager. These people, you know, you cannot. There's no reason.
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Jack
It kind of makes you wonder, did like Ben Crump even look at this? And he's like, nah, I'm good.
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Charlie
Yeah. I will say though, by the way, I've been keeping an eye out for like. So you see how all the high level Democrats and Chris Van Hollen are all in on this gang banger. Yeah. Nobody. And I've really been looking for this. Nobody has bid on this one because they all realize, like, this ain't the one. You know, this is, this is really not the one to get into. And yeah, there's, there's no really high profile individual on the left at all. We'll see. You know, we'll see and I will certainly find it if it does happen. By the way, as we're doing this, I believe, Speaking of the MS.13 guy, I believe he actually just, they just released some pictures of him meeting with, you know, breaking news, meeting with Senator Chris Van Hollen. So apparently he's not in the death and torture Camps. But he. Apparently they went and like, got margaritas or something down in El Salvador, which is pretty amazing. So, yeah, we've seen them go all in on the gang banger, but no, they have not gone in on the child stabber just yet.
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Jack
Now everybody's looking it up.
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Charlie
Yeah, he's like, yeah, no, it's, it's, it's incredible. That guy, I guess Bukele let him out.
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Jack
The whole thing's insane. The fact they got this far is actually frustratingly here. We'll. We'll put the image up. I've got it. Eventually.
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Charlie
Yeah, it's like this is our, this is our country now. This is the country we have to live in. You know, each case that that comes up is, you know, we gotta litigate each piece of it. Yeah, there we go. There you go. There's Kilmar Abrego Garcia.
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Blake
And he's a Chiefs fan. Of course he's a Chiefs fan. He lives in freaking Maryland. This guy sucks. Keep him there. Are you kidding me?
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Brian
That's the worst one. He's just follows the popular team.
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Blake
No, that's the Bulls guy. He had the El Salvador.
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Brian
Yeah. The only way.
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Blake
Are you kidding me? Maryland dad is. And, and look at like, the fake sincerity of this senator. I'm surprised actually El Salvador even arranged this meeting. Like, I'm actually surprised, to be perfectly honest.
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Charlie
Bukele posted the pictures himself on X. I think he actually kind of broke the story just, just a couple of minutes ago. So.
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Blake
Kelly Rose, citizen of El Salvador. I hope everyone understands that he has citizenship in the country of El Salvador.
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Charlie
Yeah, that's not a, it's not a foreign prison. They keep saying, oh, they send him to a foreign prison. They send him to foreign prison. It's not a foreign prison for him. That is his regular prison because he's from El Salvador.
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Brian
I'll be honest.
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Charlie
Domestic.
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Brian
I'm surprised at the way this is developed because I feel like the simplest way this should resolve itself is like the Supreme Court said, you, you have to facilitate his return. So what Trump should do is come out and say like, okay, like publicly, hey, El Salvador, are you willing to send this guy to us? And Bukele should come out and say no, because he's El Salvadoran citizen and we suspect he's a member of a criminal gang that we imprison every member of.
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Charlie
And they did that at the White House. They kind of did that at the White House.
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Brian
They alluded to it, but, like, they did not literally do that. And I feel like that's kind of what the Supreme Court was asking them to do, try to get him back. And they could send, they could send the formal request. They could have, you know, Marco Rubio's secretary, like, write up a little email and send it to them. And then Bukele can come out and say, yeah, we don't, you know, El Salvador does not extradite its citizens who we suspect have committed crimes so that they can avoid punishment. And then he can say, we'll investigate him for the whole ms.13 thing because there's, you know, reason to believe that. And then they can go into that and then after, then we can go from there. But I think that would probably have been the best way to handle it. But we'll see what unfolds. This is, this is pretty funny, but.
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Jack
This, this is, this is great, actually, from naive Bukele, president of El Salvador. He said now that he's been confirmed healthy, he gets the honor of staying in El Salvador's custody. And so, like, which is great. So he's basically like, you know, because. And I noticed that Bukele actually retweeted Cernovich, who said there was a pernicious lie going around and apparently liberals were actually believing it, that he was actually dead. So I think naive Bukele is basically being like, okay, proof of life picture. Obviously he looks healthy and fine now back in, back in custody. So I think that's how this is going to play out. This is sort of Bukele calling their bluff that he's been well taken care of and is healthy, sipping margaritas.
- [33:06]
Blake
Some people say that this might make him look sympathetic. The chief's hat. This guy's got no morals. He's got no loyalty. This guy just comes into our country and he thinks he can invade and be part of Ms. 13. And you live near Baltimore and you're wearing a Chiefs hat. Do you got also a patriots jersey from 10 years ago, pal? Do you have a Lakers jersey from the early 2000s? And I bet you got a Yankees hat as well. Well, send them via federal Express to San Salvador.
- [33:33]
Brian
He's going to be super heartbroken later on, like later this year when the, you know, the warriors don't win the NBA title.
- [33:41]
Jack
This is so offensive to me.
- [33:43]
Charlie
Well, so the, the gang information report.
- [33:46]
Blake
Totally agree.
- [33:47]
Charlie
And I, I, you know, I hadn't personally heard this. I'm not, you know, I wouldn't consider myself an MS.13 expert, but they were actually saying that it was known within the gang, locally, at least within, I guess it was the western section of the MS.13 that the wearing of different sports teams and sports logos was to denote various symbols within the gang. So it was like the, it wasn't that he was wearing the Chicago Bulls hat because he was a fan, but that because he was a bull and he had been given this like, you know, this, you know, permission to wear the Bulls hat for some reason. So I don't, I don't know if he was wearing it because he was a fan per se. But again, this would, this came out with the Attorney General's office put out yesterday that not only was he a member of MS.13 and arrested with other high ranking members of MS.13, but he had a rank in MS.13, he had a gang name in MS.13 and he was well known to other people in MS.13. So yeah, you've got this situation where you know, the senator goes down there and he doesn't actually represent this guy. He doesn't at all. You're not a citizen of the United States. You've never had legal permission to be in this country. You are not a constituent of Chris Van Hollen. But I'm just going to go to show you, look, the Democrats get optics, man. The Republicans would never do political theater like this. Republicans don't. You know, we couldn't even get anyone to go to Fort Knox when all that was going on and where's the gold? And people were asking questions about that. The Democrats understand this, this is going to be a huge propaganda victory for them. The story's going to get legs for another week or so and they're going to say, look at this, you know, this poor guy. And you know, he certainly looks like a, you know, a Maryland dad in this picture. So right now I'm going to say this is a W for Democrats. It just is. It just is. And it's, it is an L for Americans.
- [35:45]
Jack
Look at the, throw this tweet up that naive Bukele posted 345. He just retweeted this is Michael Cassidy, obviously the Satan slayer Jackal. Remember he said imagine if Democrat senators cared about him on stage. Yeah. Foreign gang members who spent a few years in the US and naive Bukele retweeted that. So I mean it's clear where, where his sympathies lie. But nevertheless, I think you, I mean you, you might be right, Jack. And by the way, I think we've gotten better at political theater and the optics of it. But yeah, I mean, I'm not saying Trump.
- [36:30]
Blake
Let me, let me interject. What's so funny is that when I spend time around liberals, they think we're way better at political theater than them. They think we're better at influencing. They think we're better at social media. I tend to agree with Jack. I think they are better at this. But I mean, they, they actually, and Andrew, I think you can reinforce it. They think we are way better than we even think we are at these things. Would you agree with that, Andrew?
- [36:56]
Jack
Oh, 100%. I, I have reporters call me all the time. They want to do all these features on Turning Point and Charlie and, and like this movement that we've built and the influence. And I, they've even, I got a call this week. I actually, we actually might participate in the story. It's a fun story. But these, these, you know, people have done studies on political movements and they're saying the Turning Point is the most successful modern example of building a political movement and all this kind of thing. They think we're amazing at it. I will tell you. So for what it's worth, I totally.
- [37:30]
Blake
Agree on the political theater.
- [37:31]
Jack
Yeah.
- [37:33]
Brian
So here's an idea. Here's an idea. A friend of mine actually just gave this to me. So the president, you have to confirm ambassadors to countries and a lot of other things, but you can have the president send special envoys. Special envoys can be appointed without Senate confirmation. So President Trump, he could appoint anyone as his special envoy to El Salvador for this case and say you have to go to Bukele and make the case on behalf of the US Government for sending him back. And you could either you could send, you know, Trump supporter or you could send, you could send a Democrat. You could send anyone, send someone you actively want to humiliate, Send them to El Salvador and say make the case and they can go and they, and they can make the cell, put it on, do it in private, put it on live tv, I don't care. But then you can make it clear, you know, we are, we are sending someone to, to do this. And then, you know, Bukele can respond however he wants because he is in fact a foreign president. He could say, yeah, I'm not going to extradite a Salvadoran citizen to a country he's not a citizen of, especially when we think he's a gang member. He could say, I think that sending this likely Ms. 13 member to the US would hurt El Salvador's reputation. It would intensify the gang connections between here and America that damaged my country so much. He can come up with any number of possible things. But that's one idea for how they could resolve this. I, I think they have a lot of ideas bouncing around right now.
- [39:09]
Jack
Can we get like, Can I just do a quick fact check?
- [39:12]
Blake
Let's go to the next. Let's go to the next topic because I, we do have some time, but. Sorry, Andrew, go ahead.
- [39:18]
Jack
Yeah, well, no, like, it's. He's a wife beater is like in his wife's own handwriting. Like, she accuses him of beating her up multiple times, bruising or scratching or blooding her. He was pulled over with eight foreign nationals in the car that all claimed his address. So human trafficking. He said they were going for construction work. Two different courts said he was an MS.13 gang banger. Not exactly an upright citizen. He lied to immigration court to avoid deportation. So it defies all logic. And I thought Patty Morin, Rachel Morin's mom, the angel mom from the, the press briefing room at the White House did an amazing job where she just begged the press to tell the truth. Yeah. Obviously Democrats have made some calculation that they think this is the Hill to die on, that this is the guy to fight for. And I find it revolting, disgusting, and, and scummy, candidly.
- [40:21]
Blake
All right, AI slop Blake, walk us through it.
- [40:23]
Brian
Alrighty. Alrighty. So, AI, apparently AI gets about twice as good every 13 months or something now. So it's getting better and better and better. And you can use it to generate all of this original artwork. We have, we have two concepts here that we're getting at. The first thing, we have to get to this week's Big AI Meme or Gimmick or whatever. But it's making action figures or like kind of toys of various people. So we of course have already had one for Trump, we've had some for Vance, we've had some for all the political figures. But nothing says it has to be a person in the Trump White House. So let's, let's put up 335 guys. We've made a. The Charlie Kirk toy. The Prove Me Wrong Charlie. It took us a few attempts. We had somewhere. Can we zoom in on that? Can we, can we get in on that?
- [41:15]
Blake
That, that, you know, it's. Only thing that's missing is my lozenges and my bottle of olive oil.
- [41:22]
Brian
Well, you've got, you've got your Starbucks cup that you've got everywhere and we've got your hat.
- [41:28]
Charlie
That's true.
- [41:29]
Brian
Is it America first on the shirt. All right. I said they should put vote early on the Shirt. But maybe that would be. That would be like the period piece one. I mean, the real one, of course, could have, like, five different shirts. And you can realistically change them on the little Charlie figure, too, to make it better. But we didn't stop there. Let's put up 334. We made the poso one. We have the poso doll. He kind of looks like a little. We have his accurate phone. We have.
- [41:57]
Blake
That's really accurate.
- [41:59]
Brian
We have his Creed album there.
- [42:00]
Charlie
Really? Yeah.
- [42:02]
Jack
Kind of like, you look. This suit is pretty. You have short little legs, though. My goodness.
- [42:09]
Brian
Yeah, it's like he's a little. Looks a little door. Yeah.
- [42:11]
Charlie
Why am I so. Why is it like. Yeah, what's up with that? Wait, go back. Was Charlie full size Charlie or is Charlie stumpy? I don't think Charlie was. Yeah, see, you didn't do it to Charlie. What's up with that Charlie? You guys got to get, like, you need. You need a coffee sponsor, man. You can't keep repping Starbucks like that.
- [42:33]
Jack
Oh, I know.
- [42:35]
Blake
I need to get a real coffee partner.
- [42:37]
Brian
All right, what else do we have? We have. We made a Tyler Bowyer one. Put up the. Put up the Tyler one. So his is not. The action figure part is breaking down a little bit. But we've got his aviator glasses. We have his Phoenix Suns jersey. That would not actually fit on that figure, but whatever. And we also have his ASU hat. Thinking about it now, we should give him that, like, red cowboy hat thing that we had for the, like. Was it the precinct captains during the election?
- [43:06]
Charlie
No, the big.
- [43:06]
Brian
The big red cowboy hat one.
- [43:08]
Jack
Yeah, but it was like the MAGA version of it. Yeah.
- [43:11]
Brian
And then do we have. Do we have an Andrew one? Did we finish that? All right, we have executive producer Andrew.
- [43:20]
Blake
We've got a.
- [43:21]
Brian
Got a Dodgers hat. Is that a. Is that a Tesla at the bottom? He's very proud of that Tesla. And then I think that's all we made. I don't think we made it.
- [43:31]
Charlie
Oh, dude, I can't do that. I can't do that. I can't do it. I can't do it. Nope.
- [43:36]
Jack
What?
- [43:39]
Charlie
I can't. I can't do eating sounds. I can't do it. I can't do it.
- [43:42]
Jack
Oh, it's the logic.
- [43:44]
Charlie
No, I can't do it.
- [43:46]
Jack
Oh, I thought. I thought you were having a negative reaction to my. My action figure.
- [43:51]
Charlie
No, like, I literally have put this aside, so.
- [43:53]
Blake
So hold on. Timeout.
- [43:55]
Brian
Wait.
- [43:55]
Blake
Time out, Jack. I totally put that away.
- [43:57]
Brian
Hold on. You gotta put that away.
- [44:00]
Blake
I did. Okay, you keep. You guys keep talking and you got it.
- [44:06]
Brian
What is that? Is that. Is that a Guns N Roses shirt?
- [44:11]
Jack
Oh, your. Your action figure.
- [44:13]
Brian
Oh, dear. Oh, what's that on the top? Right?
- [44:19]
Jack
Is that.
- [44:20]
Brian
Oh, man, my stuff is all tiny. Oh, oh, it's. Oh, it's the attachable beard. Yeah, you get an attachable or detachable beard on my face to reflect what level of unkemptness I am, which probably gets down to what. What phase of the. Of the election cycle that we're in. Sorry about that, Charlie. What were you about to say? Let's go into that.
- [44:41]
Blake
No, it's fine. I'm on a super delay. It's all good. No, I was just saying how Jack reacted to this lozenge is how I reacted. Secondhand smoking marijuana for two hours yesterday with Bill Maher, of which you will see the fruit on Monday. And so the only thing is, I was not able to act the way Jack just did. I had to still do a two hour podcast while secondhand smoking marijuana. So all respect to you, Jack, I put the lozenge aside and I will finish it once we are done here. So totally.
- [45:11]
Jack
Charlie's still.
- [45:11]
Charlie
Oh, no, no, it's okay. I've got the. Actually, I've got my ifb, like separated, so I don't think I can hear it now.
- [45:18]
Jack
No, he took it out.
- [45:19]
Blake
But now I have like the greatest. Now I have the greatest answer. If they ask if I ever have smoke marijuana, I'm like, well, kind of. I kind of have and I really don't like it.
- [45:29]
Charlie
So not unfortunately.
- [45:30]
Brian
What was it like? How did it make you feel? I've never. I've also never used it.
- [45:35]
Blake
Um, it. Not even spacey, but slow. That's the. Again. It was not a firsthand thing, but I'm very in touch with how I feel. Andrew will tell you that if I'm feeling off, if I need something, if I'm hydrated, I mean, I know myself very well. Which, by the way, is very good advice for everyone listening. Know yourself. Know when you need sleep. Know when you need a nap. I'm very in touch with myself. And I remember as Bill Maher is on his like seventh thing, cigarello or whatever of weed, I think to myself, I'm. I'm not thinking as quickly as I would like. I remember actually, like thinking that in my head.
- [46:13]
Jack
I noticed it too. I was in another room watching it.
- [46:16]
Charlie
Wow.
- [46:18]
Blake
And again, I was literally being hot boxed with Bill Maher. For the record, Hot boxed. Okay, Andrew? It was. The whole place was baked. Okay. And again, I did fine. It wasn't like a triumph. It wasn't a bad thing. We had a good conversation. I didn't say anything that I didn't believe. It wasn't like it made me schizophrenic. But I know when I'm, like, cooking, and I know when I'm, like, in the flow, and I am. I mean, I am so close to Bill Maher that. That the federal regulations of airlines would not allow seats to be this close together. Okay. Like, I am, like, in his lap. Just to give you an idea. I mean, we are. We are, like, overlapping one another. Go ahead, Andrew.
- [46:59]
Jack
No, I just want to. I just want to have your back here. Bad. Because, like, I don't know how much I should go into. But not yet.
- [47:07]
Blake
We'll do a whole thought crime on this next week. I wanted. I'm just saying, though, that as a little foreshadowing of that. I'm not even saying. Listen, I'm not even saying that it's an excuse. The way I look at it, it's like, hey, it's the snowball. But this time it will be called the weed bowl. You remember Tom Brady, you know, he had the snow game where he had to just. You just had to win it. This will be known as the weed bowl, where you just got to sometimes, you know, go on the road and you just got to play with the conditions. There's no excuses. You just got to. Sometimes it rains on camp. No. Yeah. And I now have the weed moment. And where I had to. I had to. I had to calculate in real time again. We're gonna do a whole episode on this. Do I. Very slowly, in real. Some sort. Yeah, exactly. Do I walk away and then I'll just end with this and we'll do a whole episode of this in the future? Or do I just suck it up and see what happens?
- [48:04]
Jack
Okay, honestly, Charlie, every time he kept lighting another one, I just. You. I just sitting there going like, oh, my gosh, I can't. But, like, another one. And he would just. Every 20 minutes, and he would wave.
- [48:17]
Blake
It in front of my face. He'd say, looms. I know he'd say, so it's interesting point there. And by the way, he'd be like. He'd have it in his left hand. And so imagine this is his. You know, this is the. This is the weed. So. So, Charlie, you know, so what. What, what. What do you. What do you think about that? You Know what?
- [48:41]
Brian
So.
- [48:42]
Blake
So actually, I was proud, all things being equal, considering I. I get sensitive with temperature and smells in the studio. I'm, like, very temperature, very sensitive. I don't like cigarettes. I can't stand cigar smoke, and I certainly don't like weed. So all that to be say, make sure. Said make sure you tune into the episode when it drops. Yep.
- [49:06]
Jack
It was. It was something else. It was something else. You did great.
- [49:09]
Charlie
They say. They say that. That high IQ individuals. That high IQ tends to correlate with, like, you know, these. You know, these types of, like, quirks. So, like, you know, being really, you know, having real, you know, this issue with, like, smell or having an issue with, you know, totally just random sense sensory things that wouldn't bother, like, the average person. They also say that it correlates with. With creativity. Actually.
- [49:39]
Blake
I. Look, I. I don't know my exact iq. I know is tested not as young and it's high. Not as high as Blake's, I'm sure. But I also have a very big issue with sound. Like, if there's, like, background noise, it drives me crazy if I'm trying to focus on something. Anyway, all that to say. No excuses. You got to play hurt. You got to play with the flu. You got to play with the snow. You got to play outdoors. And sometimes you got to suck it up and just go through Bill Maher's weed for nothing else. Nothing less. It makes a pretty cool story.
- [50:04]
Charlie
Wait, wait. You don't like background noise?
- [50:08]
Blake
No, no, no, no.
- [50:09]
Brian
Hold on.
- [50:09]
Blake
I don't like chaotic background noise. It's very different. I like if there's, like, a sound machine or if there's something that I have invited that has rhythmic consistency. Legit classical music playing great classical music. But I don't like chaos. If I'm trying. Let me give a great example. If I'm eating at a restaurant and someone is nearby and they have a. They have a conversation of which they're talking about something and their opinion is stupid. That is incredibly distracting. Like, if. If, like, they're, like, next to me and they're like, that Trump guy is trying to renegotiate the trade deals. It's. I'm actually listening more to the conversation behind me than I am to the person in front of me. Very hard. Very hard to turn off. You don't want my brain, and you don't want my brain on weed. I'm telling you right now, you don't want either of those things.
- [50:57]
Brian
What about just in general? What if you're Only here.
- [51:01]
Charlie
And, like, someone's talking the whole time.
- [51:04]
Blake
Oh, no, no, no. That. That's. That should be El Salvadorian exportation. Like, that should be straight racist. We have a conversation about that. Yes. I'm kidding. I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
- [51:15]
Jack
Wait, we have to play one more.
- [51:17]
Blake
Video here, guys, and then we gotta run.
- [51:21]
Jack
All right, so this is the AI Baron Trump singing at American Idol. This is our. A slab. So. So the action figures were all lead up into this. Charlie337.
- [51:40]
Charlie
This has millions of views on, like, YouTube and TikTok. He grew up working with his own two hands. A small town.
- [51:50]
Blake
Do people believe this is real?
- [51:52]
Brian
Yes. Yes. Millions of people. Just mind.
- [51:57]
Blake
The lips.
- [51:58]
Charlie
There's a whole. There's a whole genre piece, like Baron. There's.
- [52:04]
Jack
This is actually a good song, though.
- [52:08]
Charlie
This song is a lot better than the Beyond.
- [52:10]
Blake
No. So that's the other thing. If anyone ever plays country music voluntarily, I leave. I actually. My family and I left a restaurant recently because they were playing country music. I said, I'm not going to pay. This is ridiculous. So we left.
- [52:33]
Brian
Like, by the end, the. The lips don't even line up with the audio. But the sad truth is, it doesn't. It doesn't matter. You'll find if you go on Facebook, it's a wasteland of this. Like, there are entire pages that are just AI generated, you know, stories, AI generated videos, AI generated audio. And you'll get hundreds, thousands, you know, with, like, the, you know, the prayer emoji and some hearts and, oh, my God. God bless our president.
- [53:01]
Charlie
And I'm just going to say this. I'm just going to say this, like, I love my dad. My dad's my hero. But I've noticed with, like, him and his friends, like, they. He'll run it by me, but he'll be like, is this real? Is this real for, like, all this kind of stuff? And it's like. It's kind of funny because it's like, for those of us who sort of grew up on the Internet or, you know, got introduced to it, whatever, that we kind of have this general disassociation with the, like, knowing what something's real and something's not or, you know, meme culture, you know, you know, it's not real. But for certain types of people, you know, they're just so used to, like, I see it, therefore I believe it, and it. There isn't. There's never that extra step of, like, oh, I don't think that's real. And unfortunately, the way the algorithms work now. Yes, my action figure is 100% real, by the way. Made not in America, but also not in China. They are 100% made in El Salvador, actually, at the prison itself by the prisoners. It is in fact, their. Their punishment to have to make Jack Posobic action figures for. For a certain subset. And of course, we're going to be working on. On Charlie Kirk. Funny enough, a lot of the older women really want the Blake Nep action figures.
- [54:25]
Jack
I don't understand why we should sell these. We should totally sell these. It'll be like a seller.
- [54:31]
Charlie
Bukele just retweeted me, so I'm hit him up. I'm gonna see if we can get a little, little product line going.
- [54:36]
Jack
Yeah, let's give him the URL to these. Charlie Kirk with the arms out is pretty good.
- [54:43]
Brian
Charlie's impressive because the way the arms are angled, I kind of think that one's probably got more of those points of movement. Like it's one of those advanced action figures where you can bend the wrists and the elbows and you can like, you got a full ball and socket joint in the shoulders. Like you could get some real action poses with Charlie as he saves America. Whereas Jack and I, it's probably just like you can like move the arm up like this to like wave to people or something.
- [55:05]
Charlie
Yeah, we're like the old Star wars action figures where you could just like move the arms up and down and that's about it.
- [55:11]
Jack
Yeah, the team literally wouldn't show me mine before the, the show. And I was like, why are you. Why are you not showing me my. They. I guess they're really proud of this one. I do have denim shirts. I don't have that Tesla, but yeah.
- [55:25]
Brian
It'S not the right model of Tesla.
- [55:26]
Charlie
But, you know, it's hard, that Tesla. He says, I don't have that one.
- [55:31]
Jack
I haven't. Yeah, it's not the right one, but that's funny. Yeah. Okay. I mean, it looks a lot like.
- [55:37]
Blake
All right, gang, I have to say, I gotta run. All right, Jack, I'm gonna put this lozenge back in my mouth. And with that, I'll say, this lozenge found my way will not make me feel like I felt yesterday. Don't do weed indefinitely. Don't do weed. If you have a two hour podcast of high consequence with a comedian who doesn't believe in God and is a liberal. However, with that being said, keep committing thought crimes. Happy Easter. He is risen. God bless.
- [56:07]
Jack
Thought crime is death.