THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 84 — South African Refugees? Best Movie Ever?

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Podcast Summary: "THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 84 — South African Refugees? Best Movie Ever?"

Podcast Information:
Title: Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec
Host/Author: Human Events with Jack Posobiec
Release Date: May 17, 2025
Description: The real events of the world are out there, but it all depends on who you listen to. Human Events with Jack Posobiec brings you unfiltered and factual updates on how current events will impact our country today and in the future. This show is breaking the news that the biased mainstream media can't handle.

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I. Introduction and Welcome [00:00 - 04:00]

Jack Posobiec opens the episode with a reference to surveillance concerns, stating, “If they want to get you, they'll get you” (00:00). He welcomes listeners to another thought-provoking episode and briefly mentions his recent visit to the Vatican, comparing St. Peter's Basilica to the US Capitol dome, highlighting the grandeur and significance of American symbols over European ones.

Jack introduces the guest lineup, including notable commentator Charlie Kirk, setting the stage for a diverse and engaging discussion.

II. South African Land Seizure and "Kill the Boer" [04:00 - 22:55]

The conversation shifts to the contentious issue of land appropriation in South Africa. Blake initiates the topic by mentioning the viral nature of a story about land seizures, recalling, “they make a new push to seize Whitey's land in South Africa” (04:30). Andrew elaborates on the political landscape, describing the African National Congress (ANC) as a “Marxist Leninist party” (04:53) and explains the violent reprisals against white farmers, known colloquially as “farm murders.”

Blake recaps the outrage over a political party slogan advocating violence against white farmers: “kill the boar, shoot, shoot” (07:11). Tyler adds context by comparing it to controversial phrases in other countries, highlighting the extreme and racist undertones of such statements.

Andrew provides historical context, noting, “They have done in other African countries… it has failed badly” (05:22), referencing Zimbabwe’s land reform policies and their disastrous outcomes.

Notable Quotes:

• Blake: “It's a terrible thing to say.” (04:05)
• Andrew: “What they want is ... to just blow the country to smithereens.” (18:45)
• Jack Posobiec: “If you have a meme that’s stronger than another meme... the person with the most powerful memes that wins.” (03:10)

III. Political Ideology and CRT in South Africa [22:55 - 32:55]

Jack draws parallels between South Africa’s constitutional policies and Critical Race Theory (CRT) in the United States. He explains, “In South Africa, they have it literally written into their constitution” (16:30), arguing that such ideological frameworks hinder the country’s functionality, citing issues like massive blackouts caused by restrictive hiring practices.

The discussion emphasizes the detrimental effects of these policies on South Africa’s infrastructure and economic stability, suggesting that changing these foundational laws would require a complete constitutional overhaul, which is impractical.

Notable Quotes:

• Jack Posobiec: “So usually that type of language, when we hear in the United States we would refer to that as CRT...” (16:30)
• Andrew: “They have to go through this CRT filter for every single position... the whole thing is falling apart.” (16:30)

IV. Media Representation and Memes [03:10 - 14:03]

The hosts discuss the power of memes in shaping public perception. Charlie Kirk emphasizes the viral nature of memes, and Jack reflects on how memes can influence societal beliefs and narratives, citing how popular media reinforces certain ideologies.

Andrew points out the dissonance between media portrayal and reality, noting, “When you listen to the media, they're like, it's not happening, but it's good” (14:03), highlighting the manipulative potential of media narratives.

Notable Quotes:

• Jack Posobiec: “What it taught me, though, was the power of memes...” (03:10)
• Andrew: “It's a historical protest song... it's so cartoonish.” (06:12)

V. Transition to Movie Discussions [22:55 - 56:08]

After a deep dive into South African politics, the conversation takes a lighter turn towards movies and cultural commentary. The hosts engage in a lively debate about various films, actors, and their personal preferences, illustrating the show's versatile content range.

They discuss favorite movies, criticisms of Hollywood productions, and the influence of films on societal attitudes. This segment underscores the hosts' divergent tastes and extends the discussion from serious political issues to entertainment and cultural critique.

Notable Quotes:

• Tyler: “He has one of the greatest scenes ever in Hunger Games...” (34:25)
• Jack Posobiec: “I have a thought crime on this...I love Lethal Weapon...” (45:38)

VI. Critiques of Films and Actors [32:55 - 56:08]

The panel critiques several popular films and actors, expressing strong opinions on their performances and the films' cultural impact. They discuss:

• Dennis Rodman's influence on "Die Hard"
• AI in film with characters like Steve Bannon
• The decline of franchise quality in recent blockbusters
• Controversial opinions on actors like Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lawrence

The hosts use these discussions to parallel how media narratives can shape public perceptions, echoing their earlier points about the power of media.

Notable Quotes:

• Andrew: “He is like a really weird person.” (50:38)
• Charlie Kirk: “What’s really crazy about... South Africa is...” (15:02)

VII. Conclusion and Final Thoughts [56:08 - End]

The episode concludes with a brief discussion on sports controversies, specifically addressing Pete Rose’s eligibility for the Baseball Hall of Fame. The hosts debate the ethics of Hall of Fame inductions, reflecting on Rose's gambling scandals and personal conduct.

Notable Quotes:

• Andrew: “He lied at every step of the process.” (54:17)
• Jack Posobiec: “The hall of Fame is about the pooh.” (55:28)

Jack wraps up the episode by encouraging listeners to engage further, stating, “Email us freedom kirk.com. thanks for committing thought crimes with us.” (54:52), signaling the end of a session filled with both serious political discourse and casual cultural banter.

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Conclusion:
In this episode of "Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec," listeners are presented with a blend of intense political analysis and lighthearted cultural commentary. The primary focus revolves around the alarming situation in South Africa concerning land seizures and the targeted violence against white farmers, framed within a broader critique of Marxist policies akin to CRT in the U.S. Interspersed with discussions on the influence of media and memes, the episode also delves into personal opinions on various films and actors, providing a comprehensive and engaging discourse for those interested in both politics and pop culture.

Transcript

[Jack Posobiec]

From the age of Big Brother. If they want to get you, they'll get you. DNSA specifically targets the communications of everyone. They're collecting your communications. Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard. We've got another thought, Crime Thursday here for you. Jack Posobic here back in Washington, D.C. of course, last week I was there at the Vatican, so we got to see the giant St. Peter's Basilica behind me. Now I have this wonderful graphic of, I guess the other ear of the. The dome of US Capitol, not quite as old as that one. Also not designed by Michelangelo, but a lot cooler because it's America. But we've got a really cool, really great set list lined up for today for the entire show. Great program. And also, Charlie Kirk will be here in just a few minutes. But, guys, let's zoom out here real quick. Do we have. I believe we have Blake, Andrew, and Tyler lined up.

[Blake]

Hello. Hello, Jack.

[Charlie Kirk]

I thought you were going to call it the Devil's Basilica behind you.

[Jack Posobiec]

The Devil's Basilica. Oh, man. You mean because it was founded by a bunch of Freemasons?

[Charlie Kirk]

No, just because of who operates out.

[Jack Posobiec]

Of there right now.

[Blake]

And that, though, that's another good. We have Charlie coming soon, though.

[Jack Posobiec]

Charlie, I've actually read the. The. There's a Dan Brown book that has all, like, the Freemason symbols of Washington, D.C. and like, I think it's. What's it called? Last symbol or Lost symbol or something. And it's. It's. It's very similar to National Treasure, too. It's like, literally almost the same plot, but it goes through it. It just got a ton of, you know, good information about the craziness of D.C. blake, that's all true, right?

[Andrew]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a lot of, like, wacky symbols in it. They were into their, like, esoteric symbology stuff, man. Dan Brown, that's a blast from the past. Remember in the early 2000s, Jack, where, like, churches would need to have special events because Da Vinci Code was so popular? Yep. And we would need to have, like, priests and. And scholars come and be like, no, guys, Jesus didn't marry Mary Magdalene. This is a fictional book. The Priory of Scion is not real.

[Blake]

Well, it's kind of like. It's kind of like when the SNL did that Sarah Palin skit, like, can See Russia from My House. And everybody actually thought she said it. It was actually. It was just a. Just a line from a. From an SNL's game.

[Charlie Kirk]

Everyone thought she said it.

[Jack Posobiec]

I think they still do, but it Shows you what. What it taught me, though, was the power of memes, right? And so this idea that if you had a meme that was stronger than another meme, that just. That one meme getting out there into the world and being released into the wild would catch fire across, you know, across people from person to person, and then even to Catholics who, you know, are sitting there like, yes, we've always believed this for thousands of years, but, whoa, there's a Hollywood movie about it, and everybody's reading this book at the beach and suddenly. So it's like, okay, so if this is the way the world works, then it's the person with the most powerful memes that wins.

[Charlie Kirk]

So before we start today, I have just a little bit of a hook. We have a collab that's starting tonight, Turning Point Action with Conviction Company. This wonderful hat that you can see here. Fantastic. All proceeds are going to Turning Point Action, which is really cool, but I.

[Blake]

Actually like that a lot.

[Charlie Kirk]

They're a great hat company. Great hat. So it's Conviction Company.

[Blake]

Where's my hat, Ty?

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, got. We got you one.

[Blake]

Did you really?

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Blake]

So Special help support the mission.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's it. So Conviction Code, Turning Point Action. We. We want you to have this hat. This hat. We have three others that are up.

[Blake]

So nice. Thank you. And Charlie is joining us.

[Andrew]

Yes. Yeah, he'll be here in 20 minutes.

[Blake]

Or so, in a. In the blink of an eye. But we're going to start off.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, we got to get in there, Jack.

[Blake]

I think we're starting off with Kill the Boar.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, it's about time. It's about time.

[Blake]

It's a terrible thing to say.

[Jack Posobiec]

They're just. They're just. They're just running around farming up all those crops.

[Blake]

And could you imagine, by the way, you guys will remember this, like, when this story first hit. I remember it was like two years ago, a year ago, when this. When. When it, like, first went viral on least in America and social media.

[Andrew]

I recall the first one pretty well because I helped start it.

[Blake]

Did you?

[Andrew]

So I was following. This was at Tucker Carlson show at Fox, and we were following the news. Cause what happens is every few years they make a new push to seize Whitey's land in South Africa and just seize it without compensation. And then there will always be some sort of excuse where they'll delay it or not quite do it, because I think they know once they do it, like, the country will completely collapse, turn into a.

[Blake]

Well, there'll also be a pariah.

[Andrew]

Yeah. And so what happened was we ran a segment that they were about. I think it was that they were about to do it. And maybe Tucker mildly misspoke, or we mildly misworded it, as it was always already happening, or maybe we even did it accurately. But whatever it was, Trump watched that segment and then did a very angry tweet about it that night or the following morning. And then South Africa put out a statement disavowing this. And it was a minor diplomatic incident, and it's flared up.

[Blake]

But I remember. I remember when the moment happened. And, Jack, I don't know if you remember. I'm sure you do remember this because you're very with it online. But it was like, the outrageousness of it. Like, the cartoonishness of having a popular political party in any country, let alone one that's in the G20 and that's hosting international competitions. And we all think of it as part of the League of Nations kind of thing. Right. Not necessarily the old vestige of the 1920s or whatever. I just mean they're part of the civilization, Right? To have a political party in a country like that that says something as outrageous as kill a certain group of people. And then when you call them out on it. Welcome, Charlie. When you call them out on it, they're like, oh, it's just a slogan. It's like a funny thing we sing.

[Andrew]

It's a historical song. It's just. They'll be like, it's a historical protest song.

[Blake]

You can't get mad at us because we're black people that are singing jokingly about killing people.

[Andrew]

It's so cartoonish, too, because in comparison, as an example, Charlie, you've heard about this lately where, like, you said deutschland uber alles, which is like a line in the German national anthem. They don't say from, like, the 1800s. And, like, they're weird because the Germans are a mentally ill country. But, like. And it just means, like, Germany above all. And it means in the context, like, put Germany above, like, petty rivalries. It's like, america first, little Dutchy. Yeah, it's like america first. Not even more like America first. It's more like if you were saying USA ahead of California or something is really, like, what the meaning is in the song. And then, like, they freak out about that, and you'll have, like, ponderous CNN pieces where it's like, you know, the, the dark National Socialist tone of saying that. And then you have this song where the lyrics are just kill the boar, shoot, shoot. And like you could watch them and they're like doing popping gun shots, coming.

[Tyler]

After me for jokingly saying Deutschland uber alles.

[Blake]

It was funny. The guy did it. Well, not exactly.

[Tyler]

Because in Germany, no, they're like, oh yeah.

[Andrew]

I mean, and. Or there's like, I think like 200 people got investigated or even arrested in Germany or fined or some sort of police action because it became trendy to. There was like a club song in France and they would play that song and then they would say Auslander raus, which means foreigners out. And like you would get in trouble.

[Tyler]

For saying that out.

[Andrew]

And like some of them did like, you know, Nazi salutes with it, but most did not. Like you could just get in trouble just for saying it, like deranging. And then on the flip side, of course we have in AF in South Africa and it's just like, kill the boar, shoot, shoot.

[Blake]

And like nothing you see here.

[Andrew]

Kill the boar. Kill.

[Blake]

Yamiche from msnbc. Yamichi. She doesn't have anything to say about that.

[Tyler]

Sushi woman.

[Blake]

Sushi woman from who looks like she but like deep fried. But the point is that she's like, got nothing to say about that. And yet she was. What was it? What was her line? I'm appalled. I think we have the clip. She was appalled. Everybody's frankly appalled that we're letting in 50 white Africaners that literally are under attack.

[Jack Posobiec]

Wait, wait, before, let's, let's. I always, I always try to do this where we get into a topic and let's go to Blake. Blake, can you just give us in a couple sentence like let's say people are living under a rock. They have no idea what we're talking about. What is kill the Boer? The land appropriation and the South African refugee situation as it stands.

[Andrew]

Okay, sure, sure, sure, sure. So the Boers are. It means farmer in Dutch, or at least in Afrikaan. I believe it's farmer and Dutch. The Dutch are the original European settlers in southern Africa. The Dutch had a colony there in the 1600s, so there have been Dutch people there for about 400 years almost. And they have a long term presence there, especially in rural areas. They're very successful farmers, hence the name of. And of course they remain pretty successful and prosperous in South Africa today. This has become highly controversial. South Africa is a highly unequal country. It has had some difficulties since the end of apartheid. And so A popular political position in South Africa. It's worth noting, the African National Congress, that's Nelson Mandela's party. They are a Marxist Leninist party. They are basically a Communist party. And there are groups to. To the left of them, such as the Economic Freedom Fighters. And so a common demand in South African politics is that there should be forcible land redistribution, that they should seize land that is owned by white farmers in South Africa without paying for it, and forcibly redistribute it to the black majority in South Africa. Now, it's worth noting this has been done in other African countries. It's been done in neighboring Zimbabwe. The result was starvation. So this is not a novel idea. This is an idea that has been attempted and it has failed badly. Now, in addition to this, South Africa is a dangerous country. No one denies that. And it's dangerous wherever you go. But within the dangers there, there's a particular type of murder that happens. They call them like farm murders, where you'll have people who usually a lot of them are workers on farms or they live near them, and you'll have intrusions on farms, and they will just rob and often horribly murder the people on the farms. Now, yes, this is within the context of a lot of crime happening in South Africa, but it's. Yeah, there's very much a targeted element where, like, you would not need to do this level of depraved violence against them, except that you do, in fact, want to. Do you want to, like, murder these white farmers who you've been whipped into a frenzy against? And so this is what happens in South Africa is people who are running these successful farms get targeted. And while they're getting targeted for these horrifying murders, you have members of the South African parliament, of the government who talk about we should kill white farmers, we should massacre them, or they'll greatly downplay it. So I want to do two things. First of all, we should play this clip because this guy is. What's the number on the. For every one of ours? Five of them. Can you give me the number on that? I don't see it in the sheet.

[Tyler]

We show Andrew shot first. It's the greatest shot ever.

[Blake]

I wasn't gonna bring it up out of respect for you, Charlie, but I.

[Tyler]

Was just gonna say the fact that, yeah, he's a Huskies fan, Oregon in the back, I went, this is the greatest thought crime ever.

[Blake]

I'm hearing laughter. I don't like it out of our. You know, the South Africans say kill the boar, and us Huskies say, kill Something the ducks that. L rhymes with ducks. And I'm just going to say it.

[Charlie Kirk]

I would cry if I had a U of A logo behind me.

[Blake]

The entire. I didn't know we were. Actually, I was like, tyler, that's your usual seat. I'll sit over here. I saw the sh.

[Tyler]

National runner up last two years ago.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yes.

[Andrew]

So now I want to. So the guy in this year. This is incredible. I want to. Charlie, first, the guy I'm about to show you a clip from. I want you to. To attempt to read his name because.

[Tyler]

You know how bad I am at this.

[Andrew]

I know. That's why I sent it to you. Try to. Try to pronounce that. It is M N, G, X, I, T.

[Blake]

So this is like a funny, ongoing joke that we have here. The Charlie Kirk shows accents or like everybody thinks he's just making fun of Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, but that's literally the best he can do. It's.

[Tyler]

Well, my personal favorite phonetics are.

[Andrew]

My personal favorite is that with Bolsonaro, Javier Bolsonaro of Brazil. It's just Bolsonaro, but, like, it's Latin American, so you gotta go. He has the compulsion.

[Tyler]

When I met him and I interviewed him, the team was like, it's Bosignaro. And he's like, bosanyaro, not Bosonaro. Bolsonaro.

[Blake]

They can't do it, but you can lean into your Anglo and just go with it.

[Andrew]

But anyway, so this Ninick, he has a name like, he's a freaking Superman villain. But anyway, this is a guy who's in the South African parliament right now. He is in. He is an elected office holder. Let's play clip418.

[Blake]

Is one person that is being killed by the taxi industry. Will kill five white people. Fight one black person who kill. Will kill five white people who kill one of us. Will kill five of you. We'll kill the children, we'll kill the women. We'll kill anything that we find on our way.

[Tyler]

So I think. You think he wants five white people, right?

[Andrew]

So he says for everyone, they kill of us will kill five white people.

[Tyler]

He's like an elect.

[Andrew]

Their children will kill their women. And I don't know if it was in the clip, but he also says we'll even kill their pets.

[Blake]

But this. This feels like a perfect example of, like, Michael Anton celebration Parallax. Because, like, if you listen to the media, they're like, it's not happening, but it's good.

[Andrew]

But it's good that it is like, this is It. So for example, the statement from the African National Congress Party, they put this out the other day.

[Blake]

This is like a real thing.

[Andrew]

We tweeted this. And so they have this whole thing disavowed the falsehood of Afrikaner refugees and they included this line. So they have a thing where like we commemorate our Constitution affirms equality, dignity and non racialism as the bedrock of national life. Then they say what the instigators of this falsehood seek is not safety, but impunity from transformation. They flee not from persecution, but from justice, equality and accountability for historic privilege. We go on like this. My favorite part though is at the end. For media inquiries, please reach out to Mangaliso Stalin Konza.

[Blake]

That same guy that was.

[Andrew]

No, no different guy, but they just have someone who's going by Stalin. Stalin's his nickname. Yeah, great.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, so, so what's really crazy about what you're saying is, and I pulled this up last year, I'll have to pull it up some again. It's. I know it's on my Twitter somewhere, but so what we call what this, this whole bit about, you're saying about the past transgressions and the historical disparities, etc. So usually that type of language, when we hear in the United States we would refer to that as CRT or critical race theory. So these are typically policies. And DI is a similar related policy at corporations. And you see these in schools and the military and many different large organizations and institutions throughout the United States. Here's what's crazy. In South Africa, they have it literally written into their constitution. So that means it's like, it's like in their Bill of Rights. So if you wanted to get rid of CRT in South Africa as it stands right now, for every single position at every job at every government institution, this has been something that's led to, by the way, massive blackouts, what they call load shedding. So these huge blackouts throughout the. Because they can't literally, they can't keep their power grid going because they can't hire qualified people because they always have to go through this CRT filter for every single position that they do, the whole thing's falling apart. And you can't just get a new president elected and turn it off. You'd actually have to change their foundational constitution from the 90s, which, by the way, was something that Bill Clinton supposedly and his administration helped Nelson Mandela on.

[Blake]

Hmm. Can we play this Yamichi clip? Because I think it's, I think it's telling 255. This is where she says it's appalling because there's just lots of crime and everybody's getting hurt. It's not just white South Africans. 255 so the Trump administration, they're saying that essentially these white South Africans assimilate.

[Andrew]

Better and they're also not as much of a security risk. That's really causing a lot of people to be appalled, frankly.

[Blake]

And I also should tell people that this violence that they're talking about that are dealing with these Afrikaners. I've been hearing from people that say there is violence in South Africa, but it's affecting everybody of every single race.

[Andrew]

Katie. Like, really, it's. It's what, it's what we. You said on Twitter the other day, like, deep down, what a lot of these people want is they actually want it to boil over and they kill a ton of people so they can come in and say, like, this is what happens because they were racist. They deserve to have this happen to them. Like, they really, really, deep down want that to happen. And it's kind of like with, you know, with like the Floyd riots, where sometimes, like people, some people really wanted that to blow up and they would go burn down some middle class suburb and then they could see, like, see that's what happened. Because you didn't.

[Blake]

I mean, you're totally right. This relates to like BLM rioting where people were just like, like the liberal media was bending over backwards, twisting themselves into pretzels to try and justify the looting as like a form of reparations. This is what happens. What was AOC saying? That riots are the language of a.

[Andrew]

Oh, I mean, they would all quote mlk because he's said something of that nature.

[Blake]

Something of that. Well, I forget what the quote is, but it's like riots are the language of the unheard. Of the unheard. Yes. Or something. And I think that's kind of the way that liberal progressives are looking at the South Africa. They look at the fact that they own 70% of the land and they think that that's not fair. Even though, I mean, there is a very clear case to be made that if you just took all that land and gave it to black South Africans, that you would see the productivity, like, fall off a cliff. And would they be able to even marshal the resources to be productive again is a large question mark. I mean, there is.

[Andrew]

I mean, that's really besides the point because they don't want productivity. What they want is they just like, want to Kill and just like expropriate the people who have things.

[Blake]

Well, I totally agree.

[Andrew]

None of this can be understood without understanding that the core of it is driven by resentment and hatred of people who are productive, who are successful, who are innovative. That is what I mean. That's fundamentally what undergirds any Marxist Leninist.

[Blake]

But I do think that they think in their back of their minds, like, if we could just seize this land and give it to the black South Africans, everything would be better because our, our people would then share with all the wealth. The thing that I get that it's beside the point, it's a secondary point. But like I'm challenging that assumption being like if you stole all that land, it, there is not a single guarantee that it would be productive. I don't know the example of Zimbabwe, like how it's gone after, but it doesn't seem like it's gone very well. After they drove all the white farmers out.

[Tyler]

Yeah, what happened? Rhodesia was the gem of Africa. It was the most beautiful country. It's actually where Lion King was inspired. The Tree of Life is actually inspired from Rhodesia. And yeah, they got rid of the nice government and the Mugabe, who was actually funded by the Soviets took over and went after the white man. In fact, one of our board members, Mike Miller, had his ranch taken away from him. He was an American jeweler who bought a ranch in Rhodesia and he was in America, he got a call and they're like the communists basically the blacks say that they control all your land now you should. And they should just killed everyone.

[Andrew]

So the head of. Not everyone. So one of the cool things, so the head of Rhodesia when it was still white minority role was Ian Smith was his name. He was this World War II hero. He's a very fascinating figure. And then he settles in Rhodesia after the war and he eventually becomes the head of the government there. And one of the more interesting things is like once he did step down as president, people said he should leave. And he was like, I am never going to leave. And he just settled in Harare, which is the capital. I think it had, I think it used to be Stanley or some other name, but he settles in Harare. And they're like, dude, they're going to kill you. And he's like, no they won't. They're not gonna do it. And they never did. And he just, he lived there the rest of his life. And what's really incredible is if you look at videos of modern day Zimbabwe, any news stories about it on YouTube and stuff. You'll find comments and they'll just say, like, I'm, you know, a black Zimbabwean and getting rid of Ian Smith is the biggest mistake we ever made. It was like a huge disaster. And it's very interesting.

[Jack Posobiec]

Rhodesia.

[Andrew]

He's a fascinating figure.

[Jack Posobiec]

Rhodesia edits are like, really taking off on TikTok right now. They're. They're only. They're number two behind Charlie Kirk campus clips.

[Tyler]

Is that right? What do you mean, the Rhodesia edits? Tell me.

[Jack Posobiec]

So Rhodesia. No, it's. It's like what Blake is talking about. So it's. I was joking. It's like the zoomers found out about Rhodesia. So they'll find footage of what, what Harare and different parts of Rhodesia looked like during that time, and they'll put edits to. It usually starts off with, if you remember that movie Blood diamond with like, Leonardo DiCaprio and Jennifer Connelly. And they're at this bar and he goes. And she goes, oh, well, that's something, you know, that's easy for you to say as a white South African. And he goes, white South African, I'm a Rhodesian. And she goes, I thought we said Zimbabwe now. And he looks at her, he just goes, do we? And then it cuts to, like, the music comes in and everybody's like. And it's just showing how nice Rhodesia was when it was, you know, when it was not under communist control. But they're really, really all over TikTok right now.

[Tyler]

Yeah. And there's a story from the New York Times where they said that Dylann Roof, who did that terrible killing, posted a. With a jacket calling the last Rhodesian. So of course they're trying to connect.

[Andrew]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tyler]

Love of Rhodesian.

[Andrew]

There's definitely like a few people for whom this is like a kind of aspirational thing in a sort of gross way. I don't think we should deny that.

[Jack Posobiec]

Sure.

[Andrew]

But we also shouldn't deny is like, they're like. To the extent that South Africa remains functional, a lot of it is because of these Afrikaners who have English and Afrikaners who have built up the country and have worked very hard to sustain it. And this sort of Marxist ideology that views any form of success or any wealth disparity as the greatest crime ever, they will blow the country to smithereens.

[Blake]

Well, one of the only other functional sub Saharan African nations is Kenya, which is also in the English system. So it's like, you look at the way that we do laws and the way that we have customs and form of government. I mean, the English exports across the world succeeded at the highest clip, I would say, ever. And what they're doing is trying to dismantle that vestige as well as, you know, the drive out of the most.

[Andrew]

The most successful African countries are often the ones that were the most determined to kind of sustain their European legacy. Like West Africa is not a great place in general. But for about 20 years after independence, probably the most successful one was Ivory coast, which is so French that they go around making everyone call them Cote d' Ivoire instead of Ivory coast and we say Cotevar. Yeah, something, whatever. But also, there's no elephants there. The Ivory coast name is basically a lie.

[Jack Posobiec]

But anyway, that's because they killed them all for the ivory look.

[Andrew]

Well, ivory is pretty cool, so it's understandable.

[Tyler]

There isn't. There's still an ivory embargo in the West.

[Andrew]

Yeah, right. Well, I mean, they're trying to make them go extinct, man. It's not good.

[Tyler]

What's, what's I, I have a whole thought crime on that, which is when it was legal to hunt elephants, there were more elephants. When the poachers now do it, there's less elephants anyway. Well, it's basic economics. Hunters want more.

[Andrew]

If you want the truth, a lot of it was post independence, a lot of the order broke down. And so I'm sure that's true. You had a lot more. Like they would actually police against poaching.

[Tyler]

Well, no, that's what I'm saying. But because there was a incentive to do that.

[Blake]

Well, there's an incentive to keep it on the up and up, to make it orderly.

[Andrew]

Well, there's still incentives, but now what it is is African countries are kind of. They lack state capacity. So it's like stopping crime if you're in, you know. Well, for example, if you're in a South African city, like they have police, the police are just not super effective. What is cool, you may like this though, is in, I think in Kenya, maybe some others. But because poachers are so bad and like so aggressive in some African states, I think Kenya. But I just want to preface that I might be wrong. The anti poaching police have the right to just shoot to kill if they find poaching.

[Tyler]

Correct. Yep. And the most effective anti poaching groups though, are the mercenaries. And I mean, it's. Poaching is a very serious. Yeah, serious thing in Africa. It's. Anyway, sorry.

[Andrew]

Well, we're gonna have. Rhinos are gonna go extinct. Because our next topic we'll get to the Chinese, they just. If there's an animal and it's beautiful and rare and like you'd want to make an animal cracker out of it, the Chinese want to eat it because they think it's an aphrodisiac. It's a major problem.

[Tyler]

It is.

[Blake]

Or a cure for cancer, mostly.

[Andrew]

Aphrodisiacs. No one?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I thought the whole.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's typically aphrodisiac. No, it's true. No, when I, when I was in China, I would see it everywhere and you would find people just absolutely swore by it. It's. And it's not. It's not like a, you know, in some like, secret shop where you've got to go for like the curio shop. Like, like it's the 1920s Chinatown or something. It's just like. It's just like all over the place and like regular pharmacies and stuff.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's crazy.

[Andrew]

But, yeah. So now obviously we have. They're letting in some of the Africanas into the US which I'm thrilled about. Yeah.

[Blake]

We should take 600,000 of them and.

[Tyler]

Put them in Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, Georgia and Pennsylvania.

[Charlie Kirk]

We have actually a lot here in Arizona.

[Tyler]

We have a lot of South Africans.

[Charlie Kirk]

Tons of South Africans.

[Blake]

Yeah. I wonder what their voting rates would be.

[Tyler]

We have a South African on one of our boards.

[Blake]

I wonder if we. But you think there'd be like 80, 20.

[Andrew]

Well, I don't know.

[Tyler]

So some of them are 95.

[Andrew]

So the thing is, some of them.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, they're all conservative.

[Andrew]

I don't want to over assume things because some of like, some of them are, you know, very devoutly religious in that old Dutch reform sort of way. But the truth is like, they are kind of. Also a lot of them are just liberal in the way like white Europeans are.

[Tyler]

I don't know the South Africans I've met at the experiences they have, what they disdain. They come here hating race politics.

[Charlie Kirk]

Every single.

[Tyler]

That's like one of the things they hate.

[Charlie Kirk]

And it's beyond that too. It's just, it's the entire cultural of being anti Marxist is they are every single one that I've met here in Arizona. Again, we have a lot. We have a lot of oddly conservative South Africans and they're all vocal.

[Tyler]

One of the best ear, nose and throat doctors in Scottsdale was a guy by the name is still alive Dr. Head and Neck Surgery. Dr. Gordon Chait, South African, great guy. Anyway, so I just happen to know a lot of South Africans.

[Blake]

Well, when I was growing up There was already a lot of South Africans at my school.

[Tyler]

They're super decent people.

[Blake]

Well, they were good. That was good family, very productive, smart kids.

[Andrew]

We have to be careful. So we have to watch out for is thinking on it more. I think the liberal South African Europeans are the English. This is one of the most underrated weird rivalries in the world. English South Africans and Boer Dutch South Africans do not like each other.

[Blake]

Blood diamond was Rhodesia.

[Andrew]

Probably. I didn't see that movie.

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, well, our team has ties to Rhodesia.

[Blake]

Yeah. Okay. Well, there's a Rhodesia clip from Blood diamond that we could play if you guys are interested.

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, you should totally play it.

[Blake]

439. Let's go play it.

[Jack Posobiec]

I'm from Rhodesia. We say some bullet.

[Blake]

I get it. I. I thought it was just a movie clip, but it's the TikTok edits that Jack's talking about. We say. We say Zimbabwe, don't we? Do we?

[Charlie Kirk]

Do we South African?

[Tyler]

I hate how good of an actor he is.

[Blake]

He's. He's like Tom. Tom Cruise. You can make fun of these people.

[Tyler]

But they're really bad. Like bad famous actors. Like Kevin Costner, who's an objectively awful actor. Like very bad. And then you like. You like Kevin Costner.

[Andrew]

I don't have strong feelings about him. I just really hated Draft Day.

[Tyler]

You will never see Kevin Costner the same through the same lens when you acknowled knowledge. He's a terrible actor.

[Blake]

No, he was really bad. Like Water World.

[Charlie Kirk]

I feel like Gen X.

[Jack Posobiec]

I've always defended water.

[Andrew]

I don't have. I don't have strong.

[Blake]

You like Water World?

[Jack Posobiec]

I love. I love Water World.

[Blake]

Oh, that's.

[Andrew]

People just love terrible drinks.

[Jack Posobiec]

So good.

[Andrew]

Star Wars Episode 3 just got re released and I had to endure people pretending that movie is good.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, don't get started on that. I like. I liked Waterworld, obviously. Everyone. We've covered Yellowstone, then the hick livery of that a million times. I thought the postman was good. Remember the Tom Petty scene?

[Blake]

No.

[Jack Posobiec]

But he walks up like, hey man, I know you. You used to be someone. He's like, not anymore, man. I'm just. I'm just anybody else now. So good.

[Charlie Kirk]

I feel like every Gen X male defends field of dreams.

[Tyler]

But I will say that like Costner used to be made fun of for how bad of an actor he was. Like jfk. He was a terrible actor in that movie.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, I never watched that.

[Tyler]

And I guess like older Kevin Costner is more like regal and more JFK.

[Jack Posobiec]

Is Not a good movie.

[Tyler]

But another bad actor is Ben Affleck. He's a terrible actor.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes.

[Jack Posobiec]

He's 100, right. Except. Except. Except in. In Accountant, where he literally plays someone who has a mental disorder. And I get that one, I guess.

[Tyler]

Bradley Cooper, Pearl, Pearl Harbor.

[Charlie Kirk]

I always bring up.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, the New Accountants out. But I haven't seen it yet. But no, the only one I like Ben Affleck in is. Is the Accountant, where he literally plays someone who is supposed to be like a wooden mute. So as he's, like, neurodivergent with personality issues and it's like, oh, yeah, he could play that just fine.

[Blake]

Oh, my gosh.

[Tyler]

The Internet believes that Gwyneth Paltrow is the worst actress ever. I don't. I don't think that's right. I don't.

[Jack Posobiec]

How come. How come Gwyneth Paltrow never threw Harvey Weinstein under the bus?

[Tyler]

And they say that Keanu Reeves is a bad actor. I think he's a good actor.

[Blake]

No, Keanu Reeves is like.

[Tyler]

He's also super based and smart.

[Blake]

The Bat, he's a bad actor that has, like, survived. And so therefore he's become, like, kind of likable for his. It's become a shtick. It's become like a staple of our childhood. So it's like, okay, now he was.

[Andrew]

In like, the Matrix, which is.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, the worst one. The. The absolute worst one. And I will. I will absolutely, I will go to bat for the. Die on this hill is Jennifer Lawrence. Jennifer not act. She is horrible. She had all of her. Like, all of her casting dried up after Harvey Weinstein got arrested and nobody even said anything about it because everybody knew what was going on there. She's objectively just a bad, bad actress.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. She drives me crazy.

[Blake]

What was that? What was the one she got really famous for? The Hunger Games.

[Charlie Kirk]

Hunger Games. Yeah.

[Blake]

You. You. You've. Sometimes.

[Tyler]

I like Hunger Games. I like it. No, it's a great story.

[Jack Posobiec]

Not Jennifer Lawrence.

[Tyler]

Yeah. I mean, she's. By the way, the reason. Let's just be honest. Wild. Hunger Games is good. Has Philip Seymour Hoffman.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, Philip Seymour Hoffman is great.

[Blake]

Anything.

[Tyler]

One of the greats. You want to talk about acting. Anything with Philip Seymour Hoffman. Blake is uninterested.

[Andrew]

Well, I've been watching all of the Mission Impossible movies because, like, the final one is coming out soon.

[Tyler]

He's so good at that character.

[Andrew]

He's pretty good. In Mission Impossible.

[Tyler]

There is that archetype of, like, the sage, kind of like, crafty. There's something happening With Charlie.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, they're talking about bringing back Philip Seymour Hoffman and using AI. Using AI.

[Andrew]

Okay, now I've got to stand against this. No, I don't know. AI Actors are bad news.

[Jack Posobiec]

I. Charlie, Charlie, How. How bad is it that we did that? We are not going to get in this lifetime. Philip Seymour Hoffman playing Steve Bannon.

[Tyler]

No, I mean, come on. I mean, that's worth AI.

[Andrew]

Okay, like one. I always wanted that.

[Tyler]

Now I can't unsee that. Look at this. You got to put the picture up.

[Jack Posobiec]

You got to put the picture up.

[Blake]

Put it up. Yeah. Sorry.

[Tyler]

Is. It's.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's Steve. Like, it's literally Steve.

[Tyler]

I mean, come on. And he would do a marvelous job.

[Jack Posobiec]

Such a good job.

[Blake]

He needs that. That Baby Bannon thing. It would be like him doing that monologue.

[Jack Posobiec]

I made that. I made that this morning. I made it. I made a baby Stephen Miller last night to just test it out. And then I made Baby Bannon this morning, and it did like a million views.

[Tyler]

Should we do first.

[Blake]

Should we do Baby Bannon?

[Tyler]

What platform do you use to make that? Which I generated.

[Jack Posobiec]

So it's. You have to use a bunch together. So you have to generate a still image of the baby version of someone first. Then you. Then you get the audio. So you want the actual audio.

[Tyler]

Too much work.

[Blake]

Okay, Jack, wait. Let me just play it for 41. This is baby Bannon.

[Jack Posobiec]

Facts are on our side. Joe Biden never got 15 million votes. More votes than Barack Obama. Impossible. We didn't pick up net 12 house seats when we lost the presidential.

[Tyler]

Impossible.

[Jack Posobiec]

We didn't win 19 of the 20 bellwethers and lose the presidency. Impossible. So I made a pen into a crayon. Yeah. I used this software called Hydra that.

[Tyler]

Lets you animate this. Jack.

[Jack Posobiec]

Honestly, that. That one's. That one took like 20 minutes.

[Andrew]

It wasn't hard at all.

[Blake]

Philip Sieber. This 442. If you throw that image up, that's a pretty, like, ban. Like, that is banning again.

[Jack Posobiec]

You have to control the memes.

[Tyler]

I mean, come on.

[Blake]

That's Steve.

[Jack Posobiec]

When you control the meme.

[Tyler]

He died. Was a drug.

[Blake]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

I think it was an oxy over, like, it was.

[Tyler]

He was so young.

[Jack Posobiec]

He was. It was opioids. Yeah, I think it was an opioid thing. It was a Franklin special.

[Andrew]

I think he was like the first Job Frank person to die.

[Jack Posobiec]

Good job, Frank.

[Blake]

Straight heroin.

[Jack Posobiec]

Great, great job, Frank.

[Tyler]

He has one of the greatest scenes ever in Hunger Games when it's just like when he's talking about, you know, the dark.

[Blake]

Oh my gosh, he was in Moneyball. I forgot.

[Tyler]

He was really good in Moneyball.

[Blake]

So good money, punch drunk love, boogie night.

[Tyler]

One of the greatest actors ever.

[Andrew]

Yeah, ever.

[Charlie Kirk]

Huge loss.

[Blake]

Almost famous Charlie. Talented Mr. Ripley.

[Jack Posobiec]

He's the CIA guy in Charlie before the devil knows. You're a great idea, Charlie. It's gonna be a great idea.

[Tyler]

Well, is it me or has there not been like a cultural transformational movie in like five years? Like, everyone gravitates towards it, everyone talks about it.

[Andrew]

Years, 10 years, side by side, our lifetimes.

[Jack Posobiec]

The Paul Thomas Anderson movie.

[Tyler]

No, like Avatar was the closest I could think of today.

[Andrew]

And yet Avatars, like had no cultural, like sticking. Relevant sticking point. A ton of money.

[Tyler]

I think it's subconsciously convinced people to be environmentalists.

[Andrew]

No, that was like the end of environmentalism. No, but people were environmentalists in the 90s, the 2000s.

[Tyler]

It was, it had all these like.

[Blake]

Indigenous people, adaptation, adoption of climate change didn't come.

[Tyler]

Isn't there another one?

[Blake]

It was like that was. It was. It was a virus virulent subculture. But it was like we had that.

[Andrew]

Terrible the Day after tomorrow movie in 2004 and like the plot was just like Fern Gully plus Pocahontas. Like Avatar was not kicking off any of that stuff. That was all just James Cameron, like absurd fandom. Made a ton of money. We got all those terrible 3D movies afterwards. But the cultural staying power of it was minimal. Although I do remember there was this extremely bizarre article.

[Charlie Kirk]

It was the. It was the highest grossing film.

[Andrew]

That's the thing though, like, because it.

[Jack Posobiec]

Was a roller coaster still, talk about Titanic went. They Avatar people went to Avatar because it was like a roller coaster. It was like the first big 3D movie. Yeah, it was, it was like those, it's like those movies. And James Cameron spent a lot of time, by the way, in the interim between Titanic and that making those, like, he would make those like movies that you watch at the observatory, kind of things where you're like. Or like, oh, wow, I'm at the planetarium, but now I'm underwater. Look at me. Look at this. Like, like that. That's all it was. It was just a series of like scenescapes that looked cool in 3D. And that's why I did so much business. I was in China when it came out at one point. And I mean, it was. There'd be theaters in downtown Shanghai where it was the only thing playing on every screen in a 24 screen theater. And the Chinese loved it because they'd never seen anything like that before. But it wasn't because of, like, the. You know, the plot or anything like that. Like, they could care less. Like, they just thought it was, like, a cool experience.

[Andrew]

And then we got Avatar 2, the way of Water that already came out. It already made over $2 billion, and it was equally irrelevant. Like. Or not irrelevant, but had no staying power. And what that's. What I have is I want to.

[Jack Posobiec]

Watch the Master again. It's the Scientology movie. I really want. That's so good.

[Blake]

So apparently, adjusted for inflation, Gone with the Wind is still.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, Gone with the Wind still number one.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

When you adjust for inflation, it's like Gone with the Wind and Star Wars.

[Tyler]

These Avengers movies, I guess.

[Blake]

Dude, I have no idea.

[Tyler]

I think Marvel slop is one of the. I just.

[Andrew]

I know people love their Marvel slope.

[Tyler]

I can watch it game. Like, what is going on here?

[Jack Posobiec]

Like, they've been going down.

[Blake]

Yeah, they have.

[Andrew]

All right, we need. Okay. Adjusted for inflation. Now, this can all be pretty, like, misleading because, like, back in the day, a lot of these movies didn't have, like, total global releases.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

I think the Godfather is still one of the greatest movies of all time.

[Blake]

Oh, I could watch.

[Tyler]

I will. I will die on that hill.

[Jack Posobiec]

Godfather 1 is better than Godfather 2.

[Tyler]

Correct. But, you know, God. Well, let me think about that. Three is the worst, in my opinion. I think three is the weakest.

[Andrew]

Everyone.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's a weak is, but it's still a good movie.

[Tyler]

No, I like it because it's not provocative. So I've never talked about Godfather in this show.

[Andrew]

So the worst part about Godfather 3 is that Sofia Coppola is in it. And the best part of Godfather 3 is that she gets shot at the end of the Godfather 3.

[Jack Posobiec]

She's not that Spoilers.

[Tyler]

People.

[Jack Posobiec]

People hate on her, but she's not that bad.

[Tyler]

Let me think about this. The reason I like Godfather 2, I think they successfully talked about the backstory, and they did a really good job of flashbacking.

[Andrew]

That's my problem with it.

[Tyler]

You don't like because.

[Andrew]

Well, we get this in a lot of movies now where people will be like, this movie was good because it explained how a thing happened and it built. Who cares?

[Charlie Kirk]

Godfather 2 is the same way.

[Jack Posobiec]

Exactly. Correct.

[Charlie Kirk]

Back to the Future, too.

[Tyler]

But that wasn't the only part of the movie.

[Jack Posobiec]

It was a point of fact, I would say, because it changes this.

[Andrew]

I think. God, I think the stuff with Corleone is good. I think the stuff with Michael is Good. But they aren't really that strongly related to each other. Like I'm sure some film.

[Tyler]

Father, son.

[Andrew]

I mean, yeah. But I'm sure some film nerd can say like, oh, these things play together, but really, for the most part they don't. And there's no, like, you could tell the entire story that was in Godfather Part 2 from like Michael's perspective without needing the veto stuff and really.

[Jack Posobiec]

Correct.

[Andrew]

The only part where the overlap matters is at the end where there's the flashback. And it's like right after he's killed his brother. That's what his brother is the only one who sticks up for him when he joins the military. Like, that's a great scene. Any of the Prelude stuff.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, but that makes the whole movie.

[Andrew]

Yeah, but none of like, none of you know the original veto, like cutting that dude open with a knife has anything.

[Jack Posobiec]

You're just getting more information that you already already knew that doesn't actually add to the dramatic tension of the events that are ongoing. Whereas in the first movie it is a wholly self contained film within one timeline, as opposed to needing these like bridges to go into, into the past that don't end up going where. Also you get rid of Robert De Niro. And I think that's something we can all agree on.

[Tyler]

Well, De Niro is in Godfather 2, right?

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andrew]

He's. He's not saying you cut.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, that's what I'm saying. If you cut the flashbacks out, you would get rid of Robert De Niro.

[Andrew]

Do you want my.

[Tyler]

Sorry, hot take? He's actually a good actor.

[Andrew]

Do you want my really controversial, controversial movie take?

[Jack Posobiec]

No, I know, but he deserves to be.

[Andrew]

I don't like goodfellas. I actively.

[Tyler]

I agree. I think it's overrated. Yeah, like, I'm not a huge fan.

[Jack Posobiec]

Producer Foz is like banging.

[Tyler]

Do you want to know the. The one with Jack Nicklaus is better than Goodfellas. What's that one called? The one we talked about? Well, the Boston one.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, yeah.

[Andrew]

The Departed.

[Tyler]

Much better.

[Andrew]

The Departed has the part. So first of all, this is me being super, like Midwestern German. I generally don't like mob movies.

[Tyler]

He's a good actor. I'm sorry. I hate how good of actor.

[Andrew]

I generally don't like mob movies because I personally watch them and I just want the police to kick in the door and like gun everyone down for the sake of law and order. So I can't relate to these stories.

[Tyler]

So you don't like the Sopranos?

[Andrew]

I've never seen The Sopranos.

[Tyler]

Breaking Bad.

[Andrew]

Never seen Breaking Bad.

[Tyler]

See, this is. We gotta see.

[Andrew]

They don't. They don't fully appeal to me.

[Tyler]

See all these? That's so interesting.

[Andrew]

So. So that, like, the Departed. So you know what's interesting with the Departed? You might want to go watch this. It's a remake of a Hong Kong movie, and the Hong Kong movie is called Infernal. Infernal Affairs.

[Jack Posobiec]

I believe it's Infernal. Yeah.

[Andrew]

I haven't seen it, but my understanding is a big issue with it is in the Infernal affairs, the Matt Damon equivalent character is more sympathetic than he is in the Departed. So he survives, I believe, the end of Infernal Affairs. But it's like, okay, I think it's something like the, you know, the Leonardo DiCaprio guy dies, but the Matt Damon equivalent, like, goes straight as a cop. I'm going off memory here. It's been a long time. But then when they made it in America, Matt Damon guy was so despicable that no one would tolerate him surviving that movie. So they clearly just ran out of. They were like, how are we gonna resolve this? Kill everyone. And they just killed everybody.

[Charlie Kirk]

The amount of information you retain is unbelievable.

[Tyler]

Infernal Affairs.

[Andrew]

Infernal.

[Tyler]

He's right.

[Jack Posobiec]

I've seen. I've seen the Hong Kong version with the. Yeah, it's like one. It was one of the movies I would watch when I was doing, like, language learning, even though I don't know speak Cantonese. But you can still do it with the Mandarin subtitles. They're similar. And it. You're right. Like, the Matt Damon character is like. He's just not a douchebag. He is like, he is in the. In the Departed version. The Departed version, you want him to get shot. And then in this, it's like, oh, he's actually kind of cool. Like, he's actually. He. He's. He's like. It's more like he's seen as like, an. An upstanding, you know, honorable police officer who's put into a bad situation situation, if that makes sense.

[Tyler]

Now, are we Pulp Fiction fans?

[Blake]

Oh, yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

Trump's favorite movie parts.

[Tyler]

Is it really Trump's favorite movie? Yeah.

[Andrew]

Really? It's not like Phantom of the Opera or something?

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, that's.

[Tyler]

I never knew that was Trump's favorite movie.

[Jack Posobiec]

Wow.

[Tyler]

Well, there is a fan of the.

[Andrew]

Opera movie, but, yeah, the Phantom of the Opera movie. This is going to annoy you again, because I remember it. So the original Phantom of the Opera, the musical takes place in the 1890s. Yeah. And the movie version, they changed the year to 1870 for no reason. And that was the one year they should not have picked, because in 1870, Paris is surrounded by the Prussian army and they're all starving and they're eating the animals in the city zoo. It would be like if you made a movie that was, like, set in 19, like, 55 Germany, and you just moved it to 1945 for no reason, and there was no mention of World War II at all, and everything was just normal.

[Charlie Kirk]

I don't find that annoying. For the record, I think it's really intriguing that you have all this information.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, but, but. But at the same time, it's. The real issue with that isn't. Isn't the dating of it. It was that. And by the way, Emily Rossum is fantastic in that. It was that Gerard Butler can't sing for all the fun that he is and the great characters that he's played in like, 300. Everything else, like, I'm sorry, but, like, I don't want, like, King Leonidas should not be singing love songs, you know, to Christine. Da. Like, it just. It really didn't work. It really didn't work.

[Tyler]

Well, that was a good sign. That was a good.

[Blake]

That was good. Yeah. Thanks for taking us down. Movie, movie.

[Jack Posobiec]

And. And then the dude from the conjuring place.

[Blake]

Wait, wait. If. If Pulp Fiction is Trump's favorite movie, Rapid Fire, what is your favorite movie? Tyler, go.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, I'm a big. I'm a big. We were just talking about this interstellar.

[Blake]

Oh, interesting.

[Tyler]

Real.

[Blake]

A friend that's in there.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, that's like. That's like. Such as, like a generic thing.

[Tyler]

Isn't that Bradley Cooper?

[Jack Posobiec]

You know what? I'm out. I can't.

[Andrew]

No.

[Tyler]

I get those two confused all the time.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Blake]

What about you, Blake?

[Andrew]

Gun to head? I usually. I'm not like, big on number one favorites, but I usually will say, like, Die Hard is my favorite action movie. My favorite, like, comedy movie.

[Blake]

The original, though.

[Andrew]

I usually say, yeah, well, yeah, Die.

[Tyler]

Hards are great for comedies.

[Andrew]

I usually say, thank you for smoking.

[Tyler]

Die Hard two Socks.

[Andrew]

Thank you for smoking is really good. If you've Never Die Hard 3.

[Tyler]

Which one is that?

[Blake]

That's the one in New York.

[Andrew]

The bombs in New York.

[Blake]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

And wait, thank you for Samuel.

[Tyler]

That's David Sachs movie.

[Andrew]

Oh, yeah. He was involved in that.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah.

[Blake]

So was Elon. Elon Musk had a cameo.

[Andrew]

Thank you for smoking Die Hard 3. Is. Is really funny because Die Hard has the best TV edits. So like in. In Die Hard. Well, In Die Hard 3, remember, the villain makes him, like, where the.

[Tyler]

I don't remember it. I gotta see.

[Andrew]

He has the sign that says, I hate. Oh, I don't like in the town. And then on tv, they edit it with digitally to say, I hate everyone. And it makes it really funny because then this crowd is surrounding him and like, threatening to, like, you know, kill him or beat the crap out of him. It's like they're really militant about him saying he hates everyone.

[Tyler]

The first Die Hard is one of the great.

[Andrew]

And then on the first one, when he says, you know, yippee ki.

[Blake]

Yay.

[Andrew]

You know, mother MF. They. They change it to yippee ki. Mr. Falcon.

[Jack Posobiec]

I have a thought crime on this. I have a thought crime on this. My thought crime on this is that I like Lethal Weapon and the Lethal Weapon series better than Die Hard.

[Tyler]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Blake]

Renee Russo or Renee. Right?

[Andrew]

Full circle. Who are the bad guys in Lethal Weapon 2?

[Tyler]

I don't remember.

[Andrew]

The South Africa.

[Charlie Kirk]

South Africans.

[Andrew]

And they have diplomatic immunity and they're using it to play.

[Jack Posobiec]

But then they were bad guys in. Who are the real bad guys based on. In Die Hard 1.

[Andrew]

Die Hard 1, it was a bunch of irritating Germans.

[Blake]

It was Scandinavian. Right.

[Jack Posobiec]

But they're based on the Red army faction, who are an actual left wing, like, KGB front group in that operate in West Germany.

[Blake]

There's such an op on the modern American mind of who we villainize because of these movies. Right. Like, it is plausible that we hate South Africans or a certain cohort say, hate South Africans simply because of the movie depictions and things like that. I mean, we really have to be on guard for that, right? I mean, we. I grew up hating Germans when I was, like, 12 years old because of all the World War II movies.

[Andrew]

I like, if you want to. Really?

[Charlie Kirk]

What was your guys's favorite movie, though?

[Jack Posobiec]

Same.

[Tyler]

Oh, oh, Godfather or Lord of the Rings?

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, no, we'll go down.

[Andrew]

Is the Godfather gay?

[Charlie Kirk]

No, Godfather's the least gay.

[Andrew]

It's a movie filled with Italians being emotional.

[Charlie Kirk]

No.

[Blake]

You'Re just being ridiculous with Italians being emotional. Dude, this is the thing. Italians get away with way more effeminate stuff and still be straight as an arrow.

[Tyler]

People are gonna lie. I like the Dark Knight. I think it's a great.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, the Dark Knight's class. I could watch the Dark Knight.

[Blake]

I agree with you. It's really hard for me to pin one down. I would. I was gonna go with the Godfather 2. I like it better than one. But I love one. And then I was gonna go with back. This is. This is gonna get me in trouble. Back to the future. 2, 2, 2. I love going to the future. Yes. I love, like, the hoverboard stuff and. But, like, that's just, like, watchability.

[Charlie Kirk]

He goes to the future, that goes back inside. It's like. It's got everything.

[Blake]

I'm gonna have another really terrible take. You guys are gonna hate me for this, but Goodwill hunting. I still love that movie. I know. I know.

[Tyler]

What is wrong with you? I. I think about the same movie.

[Charlie Kirk]

My second top movie is Fury. I love Fury.

[Jack Posobiec]

What is wrong with you?

[Andrew]

Villains and who we're allowed to have as villains.

[Tyler]

That's nice.

[Andrew]

Did you ever see Terrible.

[Blake]

And JLO and all that terrible Ben.

[Andrew]

Affleck movies that also go into who we can have as villains. Did you ever see the Sum of All Fears?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I hate that.

[Andrew]

So the Sum of All Fears, the book by Tom Clancy. The villains who get a nuclear bomb and they, like, use it to blow up the Denver Broncos. I think.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

The villains in that are Islamic terrorists. And when they made the movie in 2002, they were like, we can't attack the religion of peace. That's not okay. So they got rid of the Islamic terrorists and they made them Neo Nazis and that.

[Blake]

Well, then. And then. Then he was also on Bill Maher being like, you can't say that about Muslims. Ben. One good Ben Affleck movie that doesn't get enough appreciation. The Town. He went back to Boston for.

[Jack Posobiec]

The Town's All Right.

[Blake]

The Town's Good. It's legitimately a good film.

[Andrew]

It's all Right.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's a solid film.

[Tyler]

You know who's one of those underrated actors I was looking? Russell Crowe.

[Charlie Kirk]

Russell Crow.

[Tyler]

Very well.

[Blake]

The Gladiator. By the way, I wanted to say. I wanted to say they don't make.

[Tyler]

Movies like that anymore. The new Gladiator.

[Andrew]

So Ridley Scott, I'm sure the original Gladiator's good. Aliens good. Napoleon.

[Charlie Kirk]

Wait, wait.

[Andrew]

Beautiful. Gladiator 2 are two of the worst movies I have ever seen in my life. If you ever want. Charlie, if we need to fill time, you can give me a camera and a microphone, and I could go for an hour straight uninterrupted on how bad Napoleon was. That was a terrible.

[Charlie Kirk]

We did that before.

[Jack Posobiec]

Now. Now, here's the question.

[Andrew]

Yeah, but we didn't go along enough. I could have go back to.

[Jack Posobiec]

Go back to Russell Crowe, though, because, you know, we got to say, like, it's just weird, though, when I see, like, the current, like, big, big, fat Russell Crowe as opposed to, like, the Gladiator Russell Crowe, because that's, like, in my head, that's. That's always who he'll be. But I guess he's on that, like, Taylor Swift tour diet or something, because he's. He's just all chubbed up now, and he's in those.

[Charlie Kirk]

He got fat during a beautiful night, which was, like. Right next.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Russell Crowe gained a ton of weight.

[Blake]

The Shawshank Redemption. I forgot.

[Jack Posobiec]

That's a video of him driving. Driving at the little scooter in. In the Pope's Exorcist. It's, like, the funniest thing. There's, like, that became this meme for a while because it's just like, it's big, fat Russell Crowe driving a tiny little Vespa around Vatican City in, you know, in a priest casa.

[Tyler]

You know, it's another great area. It's Reservoir Dogs. Great movie.

[Blake]

Fight club.

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, yeah.

[Blake]

Movie.

[Tyler]

You guys like Reservoir Dogs?

[Jack Posobiec]

Love reservoirs.

[Andrew]

I don't, so I've. I'm sure it's fine. I haven't seen it. I overall. I overall don't like Quentin Tarantino. Why much? I feel like whenever I'm watching a Quentin Tarantino movie, I can't help the escaping the feeling. This is a movie made by a really weird person.

[Blake]

Sick puppy.

[Tyler]

Like, he'll sell is objectively good.

[Andrew]

He's, like, obsessed with feet and is like.

[Blake]

Yeah, he's got, like, a toe fetish.

[Andrew]

This is a real. Got a toe fetish. He has his people, like, talk forever in a way that I don't find interesting.

[Charlie Kirk]

I just.

[Tyler]

I like Kill Bill.

[Charlie Kirk]

I just. I just remembered the Russell Crow. Roger A. Did you watch the loudest voice?

[Tyler]

No.

[Charlie Kirk]

No one's watched this. You got to watch it.

[Blake]

He interviewed him or something?

[Charlie Kirk]

No, he played Roger A. It's. It's not a. It's not a great depiction of Fox and all that stuff. So it's not like, oh, man.

[Blake]

Do you guys remember the first time you saw Memento? Do you remember that?

[Andrew]

And even if I had forgotten it, because you don't remember things, I don't mind.

[Blake]

I don't want to ruin it. But, like, you should watch Momenta.

[Jack Posobiec]

And then speaking of. Speaking of Quentin Tarantino, you know, that new movie Sinners, that's out right now is a total ripoff of Dust till Dawn.

[Blake]

No, it's.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's the vampire one that he did with George Clooney, by the way, who has been in the news this week for Joe Biden. Apparently that it's. It's the new movie Sinners. Michael B. Jordan is kind of like a South Africa version of that because it's literally just a movie about. Instead of like two guys trying to fight against vampires in a bar, it's two black guys killing white vampires in a. Also in a bar.

[Blake]

I missed that last part.

[Andrew]

But also in a bar. He said it's basically.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah. Oh, also in a bar.

[Blake]

We do actually have topics that we were prepared for. Should we. Should we move on?

[Tyler]

We have meetings like stacked. So let's go five more minutes. Do a quick super. Pick your best one. I literally have three more meetings. All right, so.

[Blake]

So welcome to the.

[Andrew]

They. They brought. They made Pete Rose eligible for the hall of Fame. Did you hear about this?

[Jack Posobiec]

Let's go.

[Tyler]

You have to do this again.

[Jack Posobiec]

We do.

[Andrew]

They. They announced that the band Manfred, the commissioner of baseball announced that they are revoking the ban on.

[Tyler]

You are obsessed with Pete Rose.

[Blake]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Because hero Blake does the Menendez brothers. If you want. Do you want to. Do you want to do that?

[Tyler]

Menendez brothers should have never bet against this team. Most hits in MLB history.

[Andrew]

Bet against 17 all.

[Tyler]

17 time all all star at five different positions. The guy three time world champion.

[Charlie Kirk]

The guy that banned him died of the year.

[Tyler]

Two Gold Gloves Silver Slugger, World Series mvp.

[Andrew]

I mean, okay, so there was another guy.

[Blake]

Like it was.

[Andrew]

There was guy that Rob Manfred revoked the ban on. I'm trying to remember the name, but he was. He was involved in corrupting the morals of a 14 year old girl. Would you at least oppose putting that guy in the.

[Tyler]

Yes. I don't even know who that is.

[Andrew]

Pete Rose. Okay, well, Pete Rose also did that.

[Blake]

Can you prove it?

[Andrew]

Well, he admitted it in court, but.

[Tyler]

Well, I mean, depends, I think.

[Blake]

What?

[Tyler]

Well, you know, was he like criminally convicted for being a pedophile?

[Andrew]

He was sued for it later and admitted that they had a relationship.

[Blake]

It was the 70s. It was just kidding.

[Tyler]

I'm not gonna.

[Andrew]

Okay, I'm kidding.

[Blake]

Like, I don't know. I don't know that part of it. That's a lesser known part of the discussion, candidly.

[Tyler]

Was that based on it was his prohibition based on that?

[Andrew]

No, that just came out later. In addition to all the gambling he did, he just doesn't seem to have been a very good guy, unfortunately. And he totally bet on baseball.

[Tyler]

Not great. People are still allowed to be in the hall of Fame.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Not Great people who.

[Tyler]

It's not a character test.

[Andrew]

Keep in mind. Keep in mind for me, the key thing about Pete Rose when he says he didn't bet on. Against his own team, is that he lied at every step of the process. He said, I don't bet. And then he said, I bet, but not on baseball. And then he said, I bet on baseball, but not, you know, on with my. In games my own team was involved in. And we finally got up to the point of I bet on my own team, but never against my own team. And that is when he accepted a ban to stop any further investigation. And that's key to me. He took the ban to avoid any further investigation which could have been criminal in nature. So he took this ban to stay out of prison. And then he suddenly tries to have it both ways by coming back 15 years later and saying, now I'm going to admit I bet, but not. Not on my own team. Just. I'm going to admit, betting or not, not against my own team. I'll admit I bet, including on my own team, but please don't do all the, you know, now, please let me investigate. He always was just. He would lie on everything, and then when he thought there was some advantage to admitting some part of it, he would finally cop to it. I just think so. I just think he has no credibility for that sort of thing. And then he also just doesn't.

[Jack Posobiec]

That's not what the hall of Fame is about. The hall of Fame is about the pooh.

[Andrew]

Should steroid guys get. Look, look.

[Charlie Kirk]

Like there's a point of their performance. Babe Ruth was, like, really, objectively a bad dude. Like, he, like, really.

[Andrew]

No.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, baby.

[Jack Posobiec]

What did he do?

[Charlie Kirk]

Have you not researched anything about Babe?

[Andrew]

What did he do? What?

[Charlie Kirk]

The guy, like, lived in whorehouses and, like. And just drank and drank himself to the club. No, no, no.

[Andrew]

He drank.

[Blake]

He would be.

[Charlie Kirk]

He would be literally on the floor. They would pick him up. He'd go up and. And swing and hit the ball. He was. He was.

[Andrew]

That makes him more impressive as a baseball player.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, but everything you're saying, he's like. He's just a bad dude.

[Andrew]

Babe Ruth was like, I don't think having alcohol is comparable. No, he lived betting on base.

[Jack Posobiec]

He was a raging alcoholic. He lived in, like, treated in literal.

[Andrew]

The.

[Charlie Kirk]

The slums with. With, like, I'm telling you, like, whorehouses. Like, this is what he did. And what you're saying is just because he's a bad guy, he shouldn't. We should still celebrate Babe Ruth as the baseball. Baseball player that he was.

[Tyler]

We gotta go. Sorry, guys. Email us freedom kirk.com. thanks for committing thought crimes with us. Talk to you next week.