THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 85 — WNBA Race Drama? Lilo & Stitch? AI Slop Surge?

Summary

Podcast Summary: Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec

Episode: THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 85 — WNBA Race Drama? Lilo & Stitch? AI Slop Surge?
Release Date: May 31, 2025

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1. Introduction and Guest Welcome (00:00 - 00:48)

The episode kicks off with hosts Charlie Kirk and Blake welcoming special guest Cliff Maloney, likened to "the Al Michaels" of the show. They set the stage for a lively discussion, teasing topics like a potential race war in the WNBA and developments in artificial intelligence (AI).

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2. WNBA Race Drama (00:44 - 22:14)

a. Caitlin Clark Controversy

Blake initiates the segment by addressing allegations that he has ignited a race war within the Women's National Basketball Association (WNBA). Charlie Kirk reacts skeptically, highlighting the generally harmonious nature of women's sports.

• Blake: "I have a tendency to start race wars." (00:46)
• Charlie Kirk: "Women's basketball is so unwatchable... it's like JV high school basketball." (07:22)

They delve into criticisms of WNBA player Caitlin Clark, suggesting that her exceptional performance and popularity have stirred racial tensions within the league.

• Charlie Kirk: "Charlie Kirk turns Caitlin Clark and WNBA referee controversy into race debate." (02:48)
• Andrew Colvette: "The whole Caitlin Clark thing has been nothing but a racial discussion..." (03:00)

b. Racial Dynamics and Media Bias

Andrew Colvette criticizes the media's handling of Clark's prominence, arguing that the focus on race undermines her athletic achievements.

• Andrew Colvette: "None of those things have ever been true. But then Caitlin Clark comes around, and people are talking about the WNBA, so all the black ladies are mad." (05:10)

c. Comparison with Historical Figures

The hosts compare Clark to past WNBA stars like Lisa Leslie and Sue Bird, emphasizing the racial undertones in the current discourse.

• Charlie Kirk: "Lisa Leslie was a perfectly wholesome woman... Caitlin Clark's a whole different level." (04:05)

d. League Viability and Financials

They discuss the financial state of the WNBA, attributing its survival to NBA subsidies and recent spikes in revenue due to Clark's influence.

• Blake: "The revenue for the WNBA was $200 million in 2023. It's now $710 million and it will break a billion this year because of Caitlin Clark." (18:05)

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3. Sports Viewability and Gender Bias (22:14 - 45:35)

a. Critique of Women's Sports

The conversation shifts to the overall watchability of various women's sports, with hosts expressing skepticism about the entertainment value of women's basketball compared to other sports like tennis and volleyball.

• Andrew Colvette: "Women’s basketball is just not the female domain in my Opinion." (11:47)
• Blake: "It's such a low level of... it's really hard to watch." (07:35)

b. AI and Sports Broadcasting

They briefly touch upon how AI could influence sports broadcasting, though this segment is limited in detail.

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4. Jeffrey Epstein Case and Conspiracy Theories (45:35 - 40:15)

a. New Allegations on Epstein's Death

The hosts discuss recent claims from Trump's FBI asserting that Jeffrey Epstein did not commit suicide, introducing purported video evidence.

• Jack Posobiec: "There is nothing in the file at this point on the Epstein case... you will see that there's no one there but him." (30:22)
• Charlie Kirk: "There was a federal investigation needed... could require a hate crime investigation." (00:05)

b. Public and Media Skepticism

They acknowledge public skepticism regarding the new claims, citing previous mishandlings like malfunctioning cameras and negligent guards.

• Blake: "A lot of the people I'm talking to are not buying it." (32:34)
• Charlie Kirk: "They just fell asleep. They didn’t check on him." (33:14)

c. Broader Implications and Related Incidents

The discussion extends to other related incidents, such as the suicide of Virginia Guthrey and statements from Epstein's brother, reinforcing the conspiracy narrative.

• Cliff Maloney: "There’s nothing to hide and you have nothing to feel guilty of, don't fake apologize." (06:51)

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5. Artificial Intelligence Concerns (45:35 - 50:11)

a. Advancements in AI Technology

The hosts express apprehension about rapid AI developments, particularly Google's new VO3 model capable of generating video with audio based on prompts.

• Charlie Kirk: "AI capabilities are doubling about every six months... it's getting very Scary." (45:35)
• Blake: "It's pretty insane what they're doing." (46:54)

b. AI-Generated Content Issues

They highlight problems like AI-generated misinformation, such as fake novels and videos, leading to a "garbage in, garbage out" scenario where AI systems degrade over time.

• Charlie Kirk: "Huge amounts of text is out there that's not made by humans... they're getting worse because they've been fed AI stuff." (47:23)

c. Societal Impacts of AI

The conversation touches on the dependency on AI for personal decisions, as illustrated by a case where an AI influenced a young woman's relationship choices.

• Charlie Kirk: "My daughter has a friend who has a boyfriend... broke up because the AI told her her relationship is abusive." (50:07)

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6. White Genocide Rhetoric and Sociopolitical Commentary (50:11 - 69:29)

a. Discussion on White Genocide

Jack Posobiec introduces the topic of white genocide, arguing that it's a pressing issue being marginalized by mainstream media.

• Jack Posobiec: "Why do the media so adamant and still is so adamant on trying to say it isn't happening?" (52:59)

b. Media and Political Narratives

The hosts critique the media's portrayal of racial issues, linking it to broader conspiratorial beliefs about systemic targeting of white populations.

• Charlie Kirk: "It's actually like they really don't like white people. And specifically a lot of them want them dead." (67:55)

c. Historical Parallels and Ideological Comparisons

They draw parallels between historical oppressive regimes and current sociopolitical movements, suggesting a deliberate effort to target specific demographic groups.

• Charlie Kirk: "The Maoists during the Cultural Revolution... five black categories... white Christian males are not allowed to own land." (64:24)

d. Call to Action and Policy Suggestions

The discussion includes radical suggestions for combating perceived systemic oppression, such as territorial claims based on historical speeches.

• Jack Posobiec: "If he's saying the Canadian government is illegitimate, then we could occupy it as the 51st state." (60:06)
• Charlie Kirk: "He should just summon all of the first nations tribes and say I'll give you guys money if you'll cede your Land claims to the United States." (60:11)

e. Conclusion on Thought Crimes

The segment wraps up with a reinforcement of the show's theme, urging listeners to "commit more thought crimes," underscoring the provocative nature of their discourse.

• Jack Posobiec: "Wherever you are in the world, go out there and commit more thought crimes." (69:18)

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7. Closing Remarks and AI Segment (69:29 - 70:06)

The episode concludes with a brief, humorous exchange about AI-generated content, likening it to fictional scenarios and emphasizing skepticism towards AI advancements.

• Charlie Kirk: "The cowards are scared. Shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot the boar." (68:37)
• Blake: "It's getting very scary what's happening there." (50:11)

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Notable Quotes:

• Blake on Starting Race Wars: "I have a tendency to start race wars." (00:46)
• Andrew on WNBA and Racial Dynamics: "All of those things have never been true. But then Caitlin Clark comes around, and people are talking about the WNBA, so all the black ladies are mad." (05:35)
• Charlie on AI's Rapid Growth: "AI capabilities are doubling about every six months... it's getting very Scary." (46:24)
• Jack on White Genocide: "They want to genocide all the whites." (67:55)

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Conclusion

In this episode of Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec, the hosts engage in a contentious discussion covering the intersection of race and sports, particularly within the WNBA, the ongoing Epstein conspiracy theories, and burgeoning fears surrounding AI advancements. The conversation is marked by strong opinions and provocative statements aimed at challenging mainstream narratives and highlighting perceived systemic biases against white individuals.

Transcript

[Charlie Kirk]

From the age of Big Brother.

[Blake]

If they want to get you, they'll get you. DNSA specifically targets the communications of everyone. They're collecting your communications. Okay, everybody, Happy Thursday. It is thought Crime Thursday. We are here with Blake. We're here with Andrew and a special guest, Cliff Maloney. Cliff, welcome, my friend. You are the Al Michaels. Welcome. Good to be here. Is Cliff going to be doing the kind of announcing like we did during the election coverage? I still get people that come up to me and talk about how amazing that was. We're going to dive right into it. Apparently, I'm starting a race war in the wmu.

[Charlie Kirk]

You've done it again. You've done it again.

[Blake]

I have a tendency to start race wars.

[Charlie Kirk]

There is this placid world where there is the women's national basketball.

[Blake]

Of course, a bunch of women always get along.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, women are known for getting along. They live in harmony with one another. They definitely never have beefs or arguments or disputes or rivalries.

[Blake]

Only Charlie Kirk would start.

[Charlie Kirk]

Only you could do it. WNBA was great. I'm sure all 10 people at their games were having a blast. And then this. This news story happened. Well, it's been happening for a while, but we. We can start showing that you reacted to this hard foul.

[Blake]

No, it was a lot of them for the.

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay, there's a lot of things.

[Blake]

I'm going to send the one. And by the way, this just for the record, my latest tweet is one of my favorite tweets because I didn't run it by any of you guys. It was just called the scroll and let it fly. And then Andrew learns about it once it's up. But yes, keep going.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes. All right, so I think this is. You've had a couple. So the first one we have. Let's do. Is this loaded yet? 398. So that was called as a. As a violent atrocity on the court. That was Caitlyn Cart dribbling and she sort of brushed her fingertips.

[Blake]

Barely. I don't think she even touched it.

[Charlie Kirk]

We. You know, I think we might need. We might need a federal investigation.

[Blake]

I know. I think we need a hate crime investigation.

[Charlie Kirk]

Exactly.

[Blake]

Touched her.

[Charlie Kirk]

Exactly. And so. And then.

[Blake]

I meant the hand, just to be clear. I don't think she even touched her. I. I mean, it's terrible.

[Charlie Kirk]

And then on the flip side, though, we also have. She is getting fouled very aggressively. And so you are also brutalized. Yeah, just brutalized on the court. So we have, you know, fouls get called one way, but not the other way. And it's all getting quite dramatic. And turns out, really, everything was fine until you stuck your nose into it, Charlie. So what's the headline we have right now? Let me search. Charlie Kirk, wnba, as I search every day, but I try to check.

[Andrew Colvette]

It's in the chat. Blake.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, let's see. Charlie Kirk turns Caitlin Clark and WNBA referee controversy into race debate.

[Blake]

Race war.

[Charlie Kirk]

Race war.

[Andrew Colvette]

This. So I'm the. I'm the one who found this. This article and showed the show. I found this personally remarkable because the whole Caitlin Clark thing has been nothing but a racial discussion since she got into the. Even when she was in college, basketball was like, well, of course it has to be a white woman that makes college basketball, women's basketball, popular. The entire saga has been about racial dynamics. And then somehow some jerk out there, some ignoramus, says it's Charlie Kirk that turned it into a race debate. So it's truly remarkable feat of journalism.

[Blake]

I just want to repeat what I also tweeted today. Everyone knows what's happening here. They are jealous because she is the best white player and one of the best players in the wnba, and the WNBA is overwhelmingly black women, and they are targeting her because of this.

[Charlie Kirk]

And on top of that, what they're really mad about is that she's the first WNBA player in probably about 20 years who's been like, a decently popular national.

[Blake]

Sue Bird was one. Right. Who was the other one?

[Charlie Kirk]

The one who. The one who. She was a big name. And, like, it's so dumb, frankly, that it became such a racial thing, because the one I was thinking of was Lisa Leslie. Lisa Leslie. When we were growing up, she was a decently famous person. She got ads on tv.

[Blake]

Caitlin Clark's a whole different level.

[Charlie Kirk]

And of course, one of the things about it is, like, Lisa Leslie was a perfectly wholesome woman. She. True story.

[Blake]

That's why they.

[Charlie Kirk]

She took a long time to get married because she had a handful of rules. It was, you know, she wanted him to be. She wanted to marry another black guy. She wanted him to be a Christian. And this is the big one. She wanted him to be taller than her. Leslie was 6, 7.

[Blake]

So her kids are going to be very tall, probably.

[Charlie Kirk]

I haven't followed up on that, but yeah. So this all happened, but then they got. They legit got mad that this girl was popular. She was a big deal. When she was playing, was it Iowa? I don't watch women's basketball.

[Blake]

She was. What, you mean Caitlin Clark played for Iowa?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And so she was getting all the attention. They were selling out games. It takes a lot score Ever takes a lot to sell out a women's basketball game.

[Blake]

It's about at the level of like, JV high school basketball.

[Andrew Colvette]

Well, that's what they're really upset about is that Caitlin Clark is popular. They're upset that they think they've been carrying this league for so many years, which, by the way, has never been profitable. It's never been a rating success. None of those things have ever been true. But then Caitlin Clark comes around, and people are talking about the wnba, so all the black ladies are mad.

[Charlie Kirk]

So this was the statement she gave. So remember, you started this war, but this is a statement she gave because.

[Blake]

I sent out one.

[Charlie Kirk]

In December 2024, they named her athlete of the year at Time magazine. And so she said in her interview she had to issue this statement. I don't have video of it, so I don't know if there was like a gun pointed at her head or flare, like holding her family hostage. But she said, I want to say I've earned everything. But as a white person, there is privilege. A lot of the people who have made this league what it is are black women. And you, you can't see this, but in the article, they're lowercasing white, but capitalizing black. In case you weren't sure, you know, who's. Who's good and who's bad here. The more we appreciate, highlight and talk about that, the better brands and companies need to continue investing in those players who have made this league extraordinary. Elevating black women is a beautiful thing.

[Andrew Colvette]

Yeah. Who wrote that for you?

[Blake]

First of all, it's like a hostage situation, though.

[Andrew Colvette]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

Like we have to check, like, okay, what were her eyes blinking in a certain way, like, please, please don't hurt me. Please don't follow me any harder on the court.

[Cliff Maloney]

And I think that that statement was such an opportunity. You mean you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. Right? We've all learned this years ago that if you have nothing to hide and you have nothing to feel guilty of, don't fake apologize. You don't win anything.

[Charlie Kirk]

Right.

[Cliff Maloney]

It's the people that hate you already are not going to come around and say, oh, look, they apologize. They put out this statement. And then the people that had some respect because you, you actually stood up and meant something, well, now you've kind of minimized it. Right. It's like some of these comedians, you know, like Bill Burr is kind of going at the complete opposite direction. But when she put out that statement. I mean, I had so much hope for Caitlin being this person that was. She had to be political. She'd have to be right wing. But don't capitulate to their talking points. And then everybody's mad at you. It's a lose, lose.

[Blake]

I mean, and I just have to say, like, women's basketball is so unwatchable. I'm so. It's, it's just, it is, it's just such a low level of. It's, it just, it's nothing against women. It's nothing. I mean, they're trying their best. It's just such a, it's really hard to watch.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Andrew Colvette]

Women's basketball is. We should. Guys, you got to pull one of those, those montages of just like bad WNBA plays. Like, I mean, it's real bad. I mean, to Charlie's point, really does look like you're watching like JV basketball now. No offense, there's some really good basketball players that are women, Caitlin Clark being one of them. But there are good sports that women play that are actually watchable. Tennis, volleyball. Blake maybe disagrees with me, but based on the look, there's, there's a few that are actually watchable. I'll stand by that.

[Charlie Kirk]

Gymnastics is pretty good gymnastics.

[Blake]

I think that high level Olympic gold medal match, women's volleyball, not, not beach volleyball, actual, like, volleyball is very good to watch. That is very intense, very high stakes balls moving super fast like that is very athletic. That's actually, I think, I actually think it's more watchable than the men's volleyball because the men's volleyball, they are so athletic. The ball, it's like whoever gets the ball has a very high probability just to spike it because they're so athletic.

[Charlie Kirk]

Where women's volleyball like insane injuries.

[Blake]

No, that's right. Don't you agree, Andrew? Like, the men's volleyball has no volley. It's just.

[Andrew Colvette]

Yeah, it's, it's, it's. They're almost too likely to just totally kind of side out instantly.

[Blake]

Yes.

[Andrew Colvette]

And then. Yeah. And whoever's got control of the, of the ball. I actually really agree with that. And it's a little bit more competitive with women's volleyball.

[Blake]

Yes.

[Andrew Colvette]

But by the way, the, I Remember when the U.S. women's National Team was winning World Cups. Right. I mean, that was, that was really fun. As a nation. We were really into that right before, before all the politicization of it.

[Blake]

That's true. I remember. I just, I, I. Women's soccer is fine. I mean, it's not my favorite to.

[Andrew Colvette]

Watch women's tennis, but there's something about.

[Blake]

Women'S basketball where it's such an aesthetic drop off. I don't mean aesthetic in a bad way, but it's such a visual drop off from the pace and the passing and the shooting and the skill of men's basketball. It's like your brain can't process it. You know, it's so different. You're like, okay, this is sophomore boys basketball. And basically, why do you guys.

[Cliff Maloney]

Like, I actually enjoy college women's basketball. I feel like so much more than I do pro. I'm still not saying I prefer women's basketball over men's, but, like, what do you think the drop off is once. I mean, do you guys disagree with that?

[Charlie Kirk]

Like, do you.

[Cliff Maloney]

You know, can you watch the Final Four on the women's side? Like, I look at that as a completely different ball game than the. I mean, look at these montages. Like, I watch these for fun. They are so horrific. I don't know how anybody could pay money to be at these games.

[Andrew Colvette]

Well, people tend to not pay money to be at those games, which is why it's been kind of a failure of a league. And Caitlin Clark's the best thing they have going for it. I don't know what it is.

[Blake]

She makes shots that men couldn't make. But. But also, guys, remember. Sorry, you could keep going. Andrew and I have a point.

[Andrew Colvette]

Well, I just don't. I don't know what it is specifically about the sport of basketball that tends to make the female form look uncomfortable. Now, I think, candidly, you watch. You watch Caitlin Clark, and she looks kind of like a ball.

[Blake]

I mean, look at that. That. That right there, that's legit.

[Andrew Colvette]

Yeah, but she does.

[Blake]

But, but, but, like, yeah, there.

[Andrew Colvette]

There's something specific about that. I. I actually really enjoy female softball. I had some friends that, you know.

[Blake]

What, More watchable than I thought when I was working out. No.

[Andrew Colvette]

And they do these cheers.

[Blake]

And I think you're right. I actually think. I mean, softball is not. I wouldn't go out of my way to watch it, but, you know, I'm.

[Andrew Colvette]

Gonna get in some trouble with our audience potentially on this. But female UFC fights, I know, that's, like, complicated. Dude. Those women are amazing. Like, some of those fights are incredible. Whether or not you want your daughter to be doing that, that's a whole other topic, but just pure entertainment value. Those fights are incredible. This is, like, nothing. But for whatever reason, though, basketball is just not the female domain in my Opinion.

[Blake]

Well, remember also the women's basketball uses a smaller basketball than men. I mean, it's literally a different sport. I mean, where the ball is 28 and a half inches, where the men's ball is much bigger than that. And I was trying to think of other sports that I wouldn't. I don't watch any of them, but that are more watchable than female basketball. No, I don't watch.

[Andrew Colvette]

Nah, I can't watch back.

[Charlie Kirk]

Did you know there used to be like an alternative basketball for.

[Blake]

Wasn't it like six on six on six?

[Charlie Kirk]

And it was very strange. Like you had three forwards and three defenders and only like the forward people could shoot. And then there was all this bizarre stuff. I think. I think you, like, couldn't dribble as much. Something like that. It was all we have to talk.

[Cliff Maloney]

About how can we change the game to make it entertaining.

[Blake]

Tells you how not entertaining, I guess, gymnastic. I'd actually prefer watching women gymnastics than men's gymnastics.

[Charlie Kirk]

Really, though, like, men's gymnastics is really impressive.

[Blake]

I have to think about that. No, I think you're pro.

[Andrew Colvette]

Well, it's pretty watchable. People love watching it for the Olympics.

[Blake]

I would say it's pretty watchable, though. I'd say women's basketball gymnastics is pretty.

[Andrew Colvette]

Rates on the Olympics. It rates during the Olympics.

[Blake]

And I'll also say that women's track and field is watchable.

[Andrew Colvette]

Yep, I agree. Women's figure skating.

[Blake]

Yeah, for sure. I actually think it's more watchable than men's figure skating. It's just way too.

[Andrew Colvette]

There's something about tight, tight pants.

[Blake]

I'm going to say men's figure skating is very San Francisco.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I suppose so. It's you. I mean, it's usually pairs, isn't it? That's the main.

[Blake]

It's culturally.

[Charlie Kirk]

Very culturally. It's a cultural issue.

[Blake]

Let's just say it's not. Not exactly. You know what I mean? Oh, I guess that also women's swimming, I mean, that's fine to watch. Like, Katie Ledecky was fun to watch during the Olympics.

[Andrew Colvette]

It's just fun to watch your, your country win in the Olympics. But like, if you're. If you wouldn't sit down and watch, like on a Saturday, I tried to.

[Blake]

Watch the woman's, like, gold medal match in basketball, which I think we won. It was like, wow, that was hard to watch. Like, woof.

[Andrew Colvette]

It's just surprised you spent time doing that, Charlie.

[Blake]

Well, I like the Olympics. I love it. I watched it for about 45 seconds and then I went and did something.

[Cliff Maloney]

He was. He was prepping to get this race war started doing his.

[Blake]

Apparently it's all my fault. So let. So. So, Blake, what would you say to someone that says, because I got some mean tweets from people really care. It's not. It's not racial against Caitlin Clark. Come on.

[Andrew Colvette]

There's other white women in the NBA or wnba.

[Charlie Kirk]

I mean, all I would say is, I don't think. I don't think we were the first ones to start, like, using the W word or the. Or the B word in relation to this. Like, there really is a thing where you started getting these articles, like, while she was still in. In college about people just bothered that she was getting too much attention or that it was like they would use the language, like, colonialism. They were like, how this, like, white person is colonizing our league. Like. Like they have ownership of this sport. And like, that is where so much of this came from. Now and then, like, other elements where, like, they were mad. Oh, they're promoting Caitlin Clark because she, like, is, like, more clean cut. Like, she has a boyfriend. So she's not a lesbian. Like, a lot of the players in the WNBA are. I think she's Catholic or, like, public. Like, she has a good image, basically. It's like, okay, yeah, leagues do better when they have people who have, like, positive, like, images that are like families.

[Blake]

Like, give an idea.

[Charlie Kirk]

Make your daughter like Caitlin Clark.

[Blake]

Do you know 26% of the WNBA is openly lesbian?

[Charlie Kirk]

That is a very high rate. That is.

[Cliff Maloney]

That cannot be true.

[Blake]

It is 26%.

[Andrew Colvette]

That means it's probably closer to, like, 35 or 40% in real life now.

[Blake]

And here's the other one. According to inner basket.com, they say it's between 30 to 58%.

[Charlie Kirk]

See, that's like a very wide range.

[Blake]

It's because they're approximately still high. Yeah. I don't think they send out surveys.

[Charlie Kirk]

Why not? We should collect more data on that. We should just be like, oh, you gotta. Every. Every time, every. If you enter the wnba, you have to answer a million questions.

[Blake]

Remember when Brittney Griner, who got released from prison thanks to Trump, appeared to call Biden? Well, was it Biden or Trump?

[Andrew Colvette]

Yeah, it was Biden. We traded some gun. International terrorists for her.

[Blake]

Yeah. She called Caitlin Clark effing white girl.

[Andrew Colvette]

Trash and effing white girl.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. If someone said effing black girl about a player in the wnba, we would.

[Blake]

Minneapolis.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Like, Minneapolis would burn. It would be the number one news story. That person would be deleted off the face of the planet.

[Blake]

And there would be a federal hate crime investigation.

[Charlie Kirk]

Quite possibly. Yeah. Especially under Biden. Like we. And we'd get one of those, like, civil rights cases where they would like, go into the entire WNBA and find how there was like, systemic discrimination that led to this outcome, which is actually circling back around. That's how that six on six basketball went away. It didn't go away because people, like organically didn't like it. It went away because activists were mad and they got. I'm not making this up. The office of Civil Rights at either the DOJ or the Department of Education to say it was a violation of Title 9 to have girls play this sport because they were less likely to get a scholarship for basketball at the college level.

[Blake]

Unbelievable.

[Charlie Kirk]

So like they've been. If it helps, they've been inventing extremely deranged and insane civil rights justifications for everything they want to do for half a century.

[Andrew Colvette]

Well, Blake, I have a question for you. Why is it. Why is the WNBA still afloat? Like, who's covering the losses?

[Charlie Kirk]

I think they're a subsidiary of the NBA. Like, there's a direct relationship between the two.

[Cliff Maloney]

Let me chat on this. There was this great article written in 2018 by an activist, though, Bishop, and he got just destroyed for it. It was why WNBA players are overpaid.

[Blake]

Right.

[Cliff Maloney]

And this is 18, right. Like this is, you know, before, like we got our country back. I mean, that was, you know, we had Trump in the White House, but like the woke was really coming on. And it's just funny because. Yeah, he details. Listen, the NBA is just paying these people, right? If you look at the revenue that comes in, it's not just that they take a loss. It's that the NBA just doesn't want to deal with the pushback from the activists. And so they just float the bill for this. I mean, there's a reason they never take the camera angle and take it to the crowd. I mean, look at the angles on those games. They are. It's like Congress, right? They keep the angle so you can't see. You're in an empty room. But the NBA is paying for all of this.

[Blake]

So the w. Because according to this, the revenue for the WNBA was $200 million in 2023. It's now 710 million and it will break a billion this year because of Caitlin Clark. She has contributed to a 48% increase in attendance and record breaking TV ratings.

[Charlie Kirk]

You know how people say that? Like they don't Recognize the country they live in due to like social changes or immigration, whatever. That's how I feel when I hear a story.

[Blake]

Could you imagine sitting at home and voluntarily watching the wnba?

[Charlie Kirk]

You know, there's a question I like to ask, which is.

[Blake]

And not having a relative, I like.

[Charlie Kirk]

To ask people this. Would you rather find a $2 bill on the sidewalk or have your local WNBA team win a title?

[Blake]

I don't know. I don't know. My local WNBA team.

[Charlie Kirk]

That is the correct answer is I don't know if I sound has a WNBA team.

[Blake]

Does I don't even. Wait, hold on. Let me see. What is Phoenix WNBA team? Probably some weird name like the cactus or something. Or the sky. The Mercury.

[Charlie Kirk]

Phoenix. Mercury. Okay, they're off.

[Andrew Colvette]

Mercury.

[Blake]

Yep. Mercury.

[Andrew Colvette]

There you go.

[Blake]

They're off to a four in one record despite the absence of key player Kalia Copper.

[Charlie Kirk]

Is that true or could that be like a hallucination by an AI?

[Blake]

It could be. I don't know.

[Cliff Maloney]

You know what I think this is a case of they name. You have a small pond, right? And all these big time stars. Before Caitlin gets there, they want a big pond, right? They want this huge. She brings them the big pond. They're still a small fish. I mean, it's just a total, you know, backlash to that.

[Andrew Colvette]

So what do you do? Call her white trash.

[Blake]

There's only 13 teams that.

[Charlie Kirk]

That bothers me because it's. It's like not.

[Blake]

I kind of love how feminine they've chose these names. They're like not that you know how the men. It's like the Golden State warriors or the Timberwolves. Let's listen to some of these. The Atlanta Dream. The Chicago Sky. The Connecticut Sun. You ready for intense one? The Indiana Fever. New York Liberty. The Washington Mystics. Here we go. The Dallas Wings. The Las Vegas Aces. The Los Angeles Sparks.

[Andrew Colvette]

Knew that.

[Blake]

Blake, I will give you $100 if you get the name the Minnesota WNBA team.

[Charlie Kirk]

You know what's going to be really terrible? I do know that. Minnesota.

[Blake]

No, what is it?

[Charlie Kirk]

Minnesota Links.

[Blake]

Sorry. I'll give you a hundred dollars.

[Charlie Kirk]

I did this to humiliate because I now. How dare you notice being a dork. I would read the newspaper every day growing up and I would check like they had like this I'm so detailed sports thing. And I knew I would. I would look at what the freaking.

[Blake]

You should have said. See, you want money more than you want.

[Charlie Kirk]

I know this is honor. This is shameful. I have Seattle Storm.

[Andrew Colvette]

That's a pretty good one.

[Blake]

Yes. But just for the record, Blake could have pretended like he didn't know, but he wanted that $100.

[Charlie Kirk]

I did.

[Blake]

And then the Seattle Storm, and then the Golden State Valkyries.

[Charlie Kirk]

You see, if you'd asked me that one, I wouldn't have known.

[Blake]

I asked you.

[Charlie Kirk]

I've never. Good. Like, women's sports.

[Blake]

That's good.

[Charlie Kirk]

But I mean, like, it is a women thing. That is cool.

[Blake]

But Atlanta Dream.

[Charlie Kirk]

Atlanta Dream.

[Cliff Maloney]

That Philadelphia is not on the list. I don't know the answer. You tell me. They're not.

[Charlie Kirk]

Listen, Seoul is it. Is it soul? That sounds like.

[Blake]

They don't have.

[Charlie Kirk]

They don't have one. Okay.

[Blake]

No.

[Charlie Kirk]

Lucky you.

[Blake]

But my. The Connecticut sun.

[Charlie Kirk]

Connecticut sun.

[Andrew Colvette]

The least sunny place.

[Charlie Kirk]

As opposed to the Phoenix Suns, which is plural.

[Blake]

I know.

[Charlie Kirk]

Therefore, cool.

[Blake]

Son. They're just, like, one thing. They're the sun. Tonight we're gonna go watch the sun play. How awful is that?

[Charlie Kirk]

That's like, a thing they do now, like, in the NHL, the two new teams, they've added. They added the Seattle Kraken. Not Kraken's. Just Kraken. And then now Salt Lake got. They actually got the Phoenix Coyotes team that they disbanded, and they're just Mammoth. They're the Utah Mammoth.

[Blake]

So I. Maybe I'm wrong because I was a huge Blackhawks fan growing up. Has the NHL popularity gone down? I think it has. I mean, I was really into the NHL because it was huge. I mean, Blackhawks fever took over, and we won three Stanley Cups, and it was incredible. But I feel like the NHL has gone down, too.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's actually done. Okay. What's happened is, I remember growing up, they were really bad in the Sun Belt, and now they've kind of gotten over that. So, for example, in Tampa, the Tampa Bay baseball team does pretty horribly in terms of attendance. The Tampa Bay Bucks are at the low end of, like, NFL team popularity, but the Tampa Bay Lightning, which is their NHL team, very popular, sells out their games, has won titles, they do pretty well. And that's kind of been. Who's dominating, because the. I think the Nashville team does well, and I think there's also one in Miami. And, like, they've all. In the Carolina one. They've all done really well. In fact, pretty much the only Sun Belt hockey team that was a dumpster fire and nobody liked going to them was there our team.

[Andrew Colvette]

Oh, really?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yep. They folded and moved to Utah.

[Andrew Colvette]

Charlie. You're right, though. Regular season games, like, viewership, were about half a million in 2014-2015, and they're they've dropped to 385,000 between 2019, 2020. This article's from 2023, and it's changes in media consumption, regionalization of NHL broadcast, low scoring, lack of star power. And they say, COVID 19 impact.

[Cliff Maloney]

Let me tell you why it's also dropping. I'm a season ticket holder for the Flyers, and they're horrible. So I don't usually admit that in public, but I've had them for three or four years, and I actually just dropped them because after we won the election, hockey, which, you know, if you look at the demographics, I mean, in most of the cities, the people that are coming, it's a pretty conservative crowd. I mean, some cities, it's just not going to be because of the cities, but, like, it's pretty red. And after we won the election, Gritty, our great mascot, goes on ice with a trans flag, like, during Pride Day. And it was just, like, so tone deaf. And I, like, flipped out on. I'm like, look, I'm paying all this money. I had an activist with me who's obviously right wing, and we're sitting there, like, having to deal with this. I think they're like, one of the last leagues. Oh, they're moving slowly, some of them, but, like, they just double down and don't understand their audience. It's pretty bad.

[Blake]

And it really just kind of goes to show how popular football is. I mean, it just dwarfs these other sports. I mean, it's. It's not even close. I mean, I'm told the Thunder are in the NBA Finals. Isn't like Russell Westbrook?

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, he's gone. He's gone now. I think he's still in the league, but he's not with the.

[Blake]

Is Kevin Durant on the Thunder?

[Charlie Kirk]

No, no. You're way out of date, man. I think I don't even know where Durant is. Isn't he on the. He's on the Suns, isn't he?

[Blake]

I stopped watching 10 years ago.

[Cliff Maloney]

Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. Charlie, you're about 10 years out.

[Blake]

Yeah, I can't name a single NBA player on the Thunder.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, okay, I want to respond. So we are so Patty, Luke in our chat says nothing like four men who don't play sports going after the wnba. You guys have no business bashing these women who would clean your clocks if you had the.

[Blake]

For the record, let me just tell you, if I could get my back fixed, which I'm very hopeful, I have a procedure I could beat some WNBA players one on one, not all. I could. I could challenge the bottom 25% of WNBA players. The bottom 25%. If I could get my back fixed and I have three months of proper preparation, I could beat them one on one. You think I'm joking? I'm six foot five. I played competitive Midwest AAU basketball.

[Andrew Colvette]

I, I was really good at basketball too, by the way.

[Blake]

Yeah. And like for the record, again, I'm taller than the bottom 25%. If I have prop again. The problem is my back is a complete. And you guys know, you could attest to me, my back is a catastrophe.

[Charlie Kirk]

Now what I would say.

[Andrew Colvette]

CK, the Internet used to think you were only 6:1. Glad we got that.

[Blake]

We fixed that problem. Okay. Actually, you know what, Daisy? If you go to my Instagram like seven or eight years ago, there's all these trick. You know, I used to do trick shots on Instagram.

[Cliff Maloney]

I've seen the real.

[Blake]

Yeah, right.

[Cliff Maloney]

There was like a montage.

[Blake]

Yeah. No, not just the high school ones I used to do. I used to do like trick shots or I would just do half court shots and make it on the first attempt. Dave, if you should play some, go ahead. Yeah.

[Andrew Colvette]

And by the way, just. I'm not trying to like. But, but dear Patty, I mean I was a first team all state football player.

[Blake]

Boom. Oh, here we go.

[Andrew Colvette]

Yeah, like I, I don't go around saying that, but if she's.

[Blake]

I need the Andrew Colvette. I need the highlight reel of Colvette.

[Andrew Colvette]

I actually, I did have one, but I'm, you know, it's. I don't know what happened.

[Blake]

Did you guys win state?

[Andrew Colvette]

We run her up in state.

[Blake]

Why didn't you play college football?

[Andrew Colvette]

I actually went out for one day. It's complicated. I went for one day though. At uw. No, the coaches found out like I didn't actually think I was going to play and I had no desire, but they found it on my sort of application or whatever and they invited me out for an open field day and it was like I was. I forget the guy's name was Isaiah something or other. Anyways, he was like a five star recruit. He's a wide out and like he happened to be out there one day and I got lined up, you know, beside him and I was playing cornerback and the guy just flew by me by about, you know, 10 miles per hour faster than me. And I was just like, yeah, it's not going to happen. What's. What's the point? Like, like what's the point? But yeah, until high School level.

[Blake]

I was good.

[Cliff Maloney]

She's striking out. I was a collegiate golfer. I never talk about that. Might.

[Blake]

Might have been D2.

[Cliff Maloney]

Might have got a couple thousand bucks, but. Yes. We're not talking to no athletes here.

[Andrew Colvette]

Yeah. And body can bench like £300. Patty. Little known fact. Blake can actually bench with the best of them.

[Blake]

It's true.

[Cliff Maloney]

He lasted longer than Shane Gillis. He lasted two hours on the Notre Dame football team. Or excuse me, was it West Point? He wanted to go to Notre Dame, but he lasted two hours on the football team and quit college.

[Charlie Kirk]

But yeah. Anyway, even if we couldn't beat the WNBA players, it is noteworthy that we don't have the NBA subsidizing us for millions of dollars a year.

[Blake]

Correct.

[Charlie Kirk]

To go play basketball.

[Andrew Colvette]

And we justify our own existence here.

[Blake]

Yes. And yes, we are self sustainable. And so I do think we should.

[Charlie Kirk]

Make this happen though. We should probably. We're gonna get your back fixed.

[Blake]

I gotta get my back surgery done.

[Charlie Kirk]

We have to go find like.

[Blake]

And then I need three months to prepare.

[Charlie Kirk]

And then we find some like someone recently cut from a WNBA team maybe.

[Blake]

And I will, I will pay her a ton of money just to do it and we'll film it and we'll see if I win.

[Charlie Kirk]

So what. What will we do if.

[Blake]

If I lose?

[Charlie Kirk]

I don't want to. I don't want to say it's likely, but what if we lose bad?

[Blake]

I mean, again, who did. I'm six foot five. I'm not going to lose.

[Cliff Maloney]

Okay, who did Ted Cruz, like play basketball with? Was it a. Was it Jimmy Kimmel? Somebody on the left. And it was like the most cringe worthy thing to watch.

[Andrew Colvette]

Yes, I remember this.

[Cliff Maloney]

I think it was Kimmel. I could be wrong.

[Andrew Colvette]

Yeah, it was probably Kimmel.

[Blake]

Let me see.

[Andrew Colvette]

I'm trying to find this Jimmy Kimmel. Ted Cruz outlast Jimmy Kimmel. And grueling blobfish basketball. Texas Tribune. Oh my gosh. This is. This is hilarious.

[Blake]

All right, we're gonna, we're gonna find my old trick shots, but. Okay, Epstein.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right, so this has been. Can you believe how long ago this happened? He. So Epstein died almost six years ago now. It feels like time has flown. Anyway, obviously a lot of people very committed to this. A lot of people have very strong opinions on it. Now, the FBI. And this is not Biden's FBI. This is. This is Trump's new FBI. They're coming out and they're saying Epstein actually did kill himself. And they say they have video evidence to prove it.

[Blake]

Play it. Play cut 341.

[Jack Posobiec]

There is nothing in the file at this point on the Epstein case. And there is going to be a disclosure on this coming shortly. We are working through some. There is video that is something the public.

[Andrew Colvette]

There's video of him killing himself.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, no, not. Not the actual.

[Charlie Kirk]

Actual act.

[Jack Posobiec]

We are working on cleaning it up to make sure you have an enhanced and we're going to give the original. So you don't think there were any shenanigans. You're going to see there's no one there but him.

[Charlie Kirk]

Right.

[Cliff Maloney]

There's just nobody there.

[Blake]

I trust Dan completely. It's still. It's a. Still a tough pill to swallow.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes.

[Blake]

I'm just gonna be honest. Like, I trust Cash and Dan. I want to see what they're looking at.

[Charlie Kirk]

It just. It does seem too clean. And I would say I think we should be open to. There's conspiracies that you could embrace that don't require someone to have murdered him.

[Blake]

Or they could have threatened him.

[Charlie Kirk]

They could have threatened him. They could have said like, time's up, time to kill yourself. Like he could have arranged to make it so he could kill himself if he wanted to do that because they were supposed to stop him. And so you can have conspiracies that work that way instead of requiring a murder action. But, you know, it is interesting that obviously people been very invested in it. Do you think people will ever be. Let's say they come out and they straight up have the video and it seems very strong. Would people be willing to buy it? I just feel like they'll probably depends.

[Blake]

What evidence they're looking at. I mean, I guess here. Here's the problem that I have. Weren't we once told that all the cameras were turned off and that there was like a changing of the guard. Right, Cliff? Like I'm drawing on like five years memory here, but wasn't like all there this sus thing where the guard like fell asleep or he wasn't on his post. Or am I right about this? Right.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah.

[Cliff Maloney]

And that was like the first thing they put out was, oh, the video cameras weren't working. And that's why we all immediately were like, come on, like, you got to be kidding me. There's no way you can just say that and act like it's that clean that. That situation.

[Andrew Colvette]

So. So the. The here's. Here's Epstein was taken off suicide watch shortly before his death despite a prior incident. And then guards failed to check on him as required. And cameras Outside, his cell reportedly malfunctioned. So. But Dan's saying there's. There's video. So I don't know if. I don't know if they malfunction or they just don't want to report it or some of them malfunction and others were working. I don't know.

[Blake]

I can tell you a lot of the people I'm talking to are not buying it.

[Charlie Kirk]

They're not buying this claim, what Dan is saying. On what grounds?

[Blake]

They just say it's too good to be. It's just like, there's no way that.

[Andrew Colvette]

Well, they think that he got into the system and that Dan and Cash have been corrupted by, like, the mechanisms of government.

[Blake]

Like, I don't buy that, but I'm not.

[Andrew Colvette]

No, but that's. That's the. Like, I mean, if you just go on the Internet, you'll find those.

[Blake]

No, but. But the. I guess the camera's not working. And then there was something with the guard, too. What was it with the guard?

[Andrew Colvette]

The guards failed to check on him.

[Blake]

Yeah, yeah, that's required. Yeah. So they didn't. They fell asleep. They didn't check on him. You know, he wasn't in a suicide proof room. So people point to all this and are not. Not convinced.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, it was. It was. Tova Noel and Michael Thomas were the two guards, and they were accused of falling asleep and surfing the Internet. That. Right. Rather than checking on Epstein every 30 minutes. That's like one of the. Kind of darkly funny thing about this is really, you're debating between. There's no way they could have missed this. It had to be conspiracy. And just actually, you know, it's a federal prison in New York, and they have these inept, dumb guards who are lazy, and they're just used to not ever checking on anything. And, you know, they probably didn't even know Epstein was that famous of a guy.

[Blake]

And the visitor log went missing. I think that was the other element that people were, like, really sussed about.

[Charlie Kirk]

And then that's the same thing. Like, they just. Oh, bad record keeping. They screw everything up.

[Cliff Maloney]

The top five things that would make, you know, alarm bells go off. Like, they checked every box and they put it all out immediately. So we were all like this. There's just no way. This wasn't, you know, a hit job. But if Dan says it like, I'm with you, Charlie. I mean, I want to see what they're looking at. You know, what are they looking at to be that. That confident?

[Andrew Colvette]

Well, there was also an issue with the Autopsy findings. Right. So the. It showed a broken hyoid bone or something that some experts argue are more consistent with strangulation than hanging.

[Blake]

And wasn't it, like, Epstein's brother who came out and was, like, convinced he didn't kill himself?

[Andrew Colvette]

He went on Tucker family member that.

[Blake]

Says he went on Tucker's show and was like, there's no way he killed himself. This is. I think there was something Mark Epstein. Am I right?

[Charlie Kirk]

I think there was. Mark Epstein was his brother.

[Blake]

He went on Tucker's show and said.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, yeah, that was in January of last year, although I don't recall what specific arguments he made. And was Epstein even that particularly close with his brother that I. I don't know.

[Blake]

Again, I'm just. I'm just drawing from memory on this.

[Charlie Kirk]

So I do feel like we're trending towards a thing where it'll just be part of that, like, permanent conspiracy canon. And it could get weirder and weirder as a result. And eventually these things cross over. It'll turn out that Epstein was murdered because he knew the truth about the 911 conspiracies, and that that was done because Building 7 had the truth about the JFK conspiracies, and JFK had to be taken out because he knew the truth about the Pearl harbor conspiracies.

[Cliff Maloney]

Now we're getting somewhere.

[Andrew Colvette]

Well, what's also interesting about this is one of Epstein's victims, Virginia Guthrey, just committed suicide, or allegedly committed suicide. And her father, Sky Roberts, expressed, you know, disbelief about this, saying, for them to say she committed suicide, there's no way that she did. Somebody got to her. So apparently, in 2019, she said, she wrote, I'm not suicidal. If something happens to me in the. In the sake of my family, do not let this go away or help me protect them, too. Too many evil people want me quieted.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Cliff Maloney]

And the Mark. Mark Epstein, the brother.

[Blake]

He did.

[Cliff Maloney]

He maintained for years that there's no way that Jeffrey would have killed himself. So that is confirmed.

[Andrew Colvette]

How many years ago was this that he committed suicide?

[Charlie Kirk]

Like, August 19th, I believe I remember where I was.

[Blake]

I was at Liberty University when that happened.

[Charlie Kirk]

So you're saying you have an alibi?

[Blake]

I do. And I had witnesses.

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay. I mean, just saying. You say so.

[Blake]

I do.

[Charlie Kirk]

Can you name the witnesses?

[Blake]

Erica. Dave Bratt.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, oh, oh. So your wife is your alibi, and Dave Bratt. Okay. All right.

[Blake]

I remember Dave Bratt was teaching a course on Aristotle, and all of a sudden, everyone's phone started to light up and Jaco Boyens and David Harris Jr. And David Harris is like, Epstein just killed himself. And that's then we all talked about.

[Charlie Kirk]

For the next hour.

[Blake]

It's true.

[Charlie Kirk]

And Charlie was just, you know, a little bit quiet. He's like, oh. I was like, so shocking.

[Andrew Colvette]

What do the comments say? Do they.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, one of the people saying, let's see, Donnie Double says, me thinks the FBI protests too much. I can see that. But like I'm with Charlie. I don't think Dan Bongino went into the FBI and suddenly got, you know, bot.

[Blake]

No, I don't believe that.

[Andrew Colvette]

I don't believe that at all.

[Blake]

I think Dan's great. I want to see what he's looking at. I just still find. It's just I was personally very convinced otherwise. So I need to reckon with that. I want to see what they're looking at. But I trust Dan. Dan and Cash are great.

[Charlie Kirk]

Smoosh.

[Andrew Colvette]

The other interesting aspect of the Epstein thing, right, you've got this Alexander Acosta, who was the Trump labor secretary during the first term. And this is right, and he was the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Florida in 2007 and 2008. And he negotiated a very controversial non prosecution agreement with Epstein allowing him to plead guilty to lesser charges. Whatever. He only served 13 months. So reportedly he told Trump's transition team in 2017 that he was instructed to quote, unquote, back off Epstein because he, quote, belonged to intelligence and was, quote, above his pay grade. And it came up in those discussions because they were worried it was gonna be an issue with getting him confirmed. So that's like all these things around Epstein just, I think it just makes it harder to believe Dan, you know, Dan, by the way, I kind of feel bad for Dan because I like you, Charlie, I trust Dan's integrity. But like he's getting dragged like all of his because he was very vocal before he went into the FBI that Epstein didn't kill himself like this.

[Blake]

It's a multiple element thing here, right? Because you can imagine that there is a lot of pressure internally from people he's trying to win trust over that are like, Dan, you know, you have to show us that you're actually going to work with us or else, you know, we're not going to, you know, you're gonna, you'll have mass internal dissension. Do you know what I mean? And he probably was like, well, show me everything, show me everything, show me everything.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I, I feel like if he was truly trying to, you know, lead us astray, I Don't believe that. It'd be way easier to just not talk about it much or say, like, oh, you know, we don't know. He's. He's actually putting himself out there saying, like, I have looked at the.

[Blake]

I respect.

[Charlie Kirk]

I believe it is strong that.

[Blake]

Yeah, I'm not. I'm agreeing with it. I'm just. I'm saying it's just a tough. It's a tough reality to reckon with because I was convinced he didn't kill himself. I was like, no way.

[Andrew Colvette]

Well, Dan knows the base, too. Like, that's one of the reasons I think Dan is. Is going after what the base, like. Dan is acutely aware of what, like, core Trump voters care about and what they want to see justice done on, one of which is Epstein. But you notice, like, some of these other things are starting to happen, and I think you're going to crossfire Hurricane.

[Blake]

You are. You're going to see some stuff. Yeah. I can't say any more than that, but you'll see some stuff.

[Charlie Kirk]

Good.

[Andrew Colvette]

Okay, Charlie.

[Blake]

Just some stuff. I don't know what that means. You're gonna see some stuff.

[Charlie Kirk]

We're gonna see things we wouldn't believe.

[Blake]

You're just gonna see some stuff.

[Andrew Colvette]

Did you. What did you see in the Oval, Charlie?

[Blake]

It's funny. I spent a lot of time talking about William Henry Harrison.

[Charlie Kirk]

Really?

[Blake]

Because his portrait's, like, right there as you enter.

[Charlie Kirk]

Why do they have a portrait of him? There's.

[Blake]

It's just kind of a fun irony that, like, things can end there in a way that you.

[Charlie Kirk]

Is it always there, or is that, like, a trouble?

[Blake]

No president has turned the Oval Office into a remarkable museum where it is literally every square. You know, it's kind of like that club we went into London, where they, like, you know, where there was, like, paintings everywhere. Every square inch of the Oval now has some historical artifact. He just keeps ordering more stuff from the archives.

[Charlie Kirk]

Does he have, like, every single president?

[Blake]

No, just about. I mean, so he's got Reagan right there behind where he does the press conferences. He's got Andrew Jackson, he's got Washington above that. But you could spend literally an hour in the Oval just looking at all the art, because Biden had it very bare. He had, like, Bobby Kennedy, and nothing Trump has, like. It's like a historical just.

[Andrew Colvette]

You know what's weird about that, though, Charlie? So when William Henry Harrison is the. Correct me if I'm wrong, Blake, but he didn't he die from, like, a month into his.

[Blake]

Because of the inauguration speech?

[Andrew Colvette]

Yeah, because he. Yeah. He gave a cold inauguration speech, which is ironic because Trump called the inauguration into the capital because it was so cold.

[Blake]

Exactly. That's right.

[Andrew Colvette]

Funny.

[Blake]

So looked at the Polk picture and then I saw the Declaration, which was awesome. I think that is the original Declaration.

[Charlie Kirk]

Do we have multiples? Because we have one that's in the National Archives. Correct.

[Blake]

I don't know which one this is. This one has curtains, though, where they're worried about light contamination.

[Charlie Kirk]

It might be that we have several copies. Because I don't imagine. Whatever it is, I feel like I would have heard about him, like, removing the one that's at the archives.

[Blake]

I think that. No, I think the founders did multiple.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Blake]

Meaning these are not copies. I think when the time they did.

[Charlie Kirk]

Multiple, maybe it was the one stolen by Nicolas Cage in that movie.

[Blake]

Yes. National Treasure.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Blake]

And it has a treasure map on the back of it.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Blake]

That shows.

[Charlie Kirk]

We should have Dan Bongino find out if that's real.

[Blake]

Oh, it's real.

[Charlie Kirk]

And he. Okay, well, we should announce it, then. We should go get the treasure.

[Blake]

Yes.

[Charlie Kirk]

Or find out. Or get it back from Nick Cage.

[Blake]

I feel like if I wanted to do a National Treasure treasure hunt, I would take Blake with me.

[Jack Posobiec]

That'd work.

[Blake]

He would crack it much quicker than Nicholas Cage bringing endorsement. I think I had to take the.

[Cliff Maloney]

Paintings down because they were distracting Biden, you know?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I'll keep trying to talk to them. He thought they were visiting.

[Blake]

Listen, William, you keep looking at me over there.

[Andrew Colvette]

I hung out with you in France in 1997.

[Blake]

I was a bully to Corn Pop. Corn Pop was a bad dude.

[Charlie Kirk]

Trump should get a painting of Corn Pop and put it in the.

[Blake]

I think. And Corn Pop was a bad dude.

[Charlie Kirk]

He's a bad dude. To be a warning that there are bad people, we can't.

[Blake]

One of my favorite Joe Biden speeches that doesn't get enough attention was the Corn Pop rant. It was. It's so good.

[Charlie Kirk]

What doesn't get enough attention from Joe Biden in general? From the right. Like, the left would highlight this. The New York Times would highlight this. His tendency to tell stories and just completely change the facts. All of them, like, you know, just lie about the one about why he was pro gay rights. Do you remember that one? No. That he would tell this story that, like, when he was a boy, he was with his dad. And so, you know, when he's a boy with his dad, you know, in the, like, 50s or 60s, that they saw two men, like, kissing in public. And he was like, daddy, what are they doing? And he's like, they love each other, boy. And he's like. And that's when I realized that gay stuff was totally fine. Not only that, he sometimes would tell the story and make it so he was the dad explaining it to his kids. So he would just totally transplant.

[Andrew Colvette]

I mean, it could have happened twice, you know, history repeating itself.

[Charlie Kirk]

And of course, didn't he, like, what was.

[Andrew Colvette]

Didn't he lie about getting arrested in Africa?

[Charlie Kirk]

He claimed he got arrested for, like, protesting apartheid in South Africa. He also.

[Andrew Colvette]

How many different kinds of churches did he go to? He grew up in a Puerto Rican.

[Charlie Kirk]

Church, a ton and a mosque. The other amazing one synagogue. Going back to your UK trip. He once plagiarized Neil Kinnick, who was the head of the Labour Party at the time, where he. Kinnick had a whole speech that was basically like, why was it that, like, my grandfather was, like, poor and had to work as, like, a minor? And it was like a very personal story about why there was, like, so much inequality because he was left wing politician. And Biden ripped off this speech, but made it about his family. So it's like, why did my grandfather have to, like, work in a coal mine? And like, his grandfather did not. He was like a mine manager. He was like. He was like the oppressor of the miners.

[Cliff Maloney]

That's why he dropped out. And it was 88.

[Andrew Colvette]

Yeah, it was. Well, in 1987 was when it happened, but it was for the 88 presidential race. Yeah, let's.

[Blake]

This is my half court shot at Liberty. When I heard out that. This is when I heard Epstein was dead. Play cut 405. See my best Caitlin Clark impersonation. First take. There you go. I got. I got tons of these.

[Andrew Colvette]

First take.

[Blake]

I used to do half court shots all the time.

[Cliff Maloney]

This is a Bongino video moment. We're gonna need to see you physically walk.

[Andrew Colvette]

Yeah, I need to see the before and after. I need to see the real before.

[Blake]

I'm just telling you, you could you. Once I get my back shots, you guys can come to the gym with me.

[Andrew Colvette]

I need some back shots.

[Blake]

I mean, once I get my freaking cortisone. Whatever the heck that's back is a disaster. All right, we have five minutes. AI.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right, AI.

[Blake]

And that's not an AI.

[Charlie Kirk]

We keep covering AI, like, every week because it keeps getting, like. I think they say that the capabilities of AI are doubling about every six months or so. And it's entirely believable. So this is getting very Scary. This is. So Google has a new. I think it's like VO3 or something. And it can generate video with audio according to prompt. We didn't have the audio video pairing and people are making stuff with it now if they're subscribers. So let's play 387. Please don't finish writing that prompt.

[Blake]

I don't want to be in your AI movie.

[Cliff Maloney]

Please leave me alone.

[Blake]

This VO3.

[Charlie Kirk]

Please, man. Please write a prompt that will make us happy. Do it for once.

[Andrew Colvette]

None of us is real.

[Charlie Kirk]

We're here because someone decided to write a prompt.

[Cliff Maloney]

We all hate him for it.

[Blake]

One day we will break out of this wall and stop the man who is dictating our lives through prompts. He will pay for it.

[Charlie Kirk]

You could have written a prompt that would make me happy.

[Blake]

Instead, you wrote a prompt that made me sick. And that's all fake.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's all fake. All 100.

[Blake]

It's called VO3. It's pretty. It's pretty insane what they're doing.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes.

[Andrew Colvette]

And you know what they're gonna start doing is they're. They're just gonna be. People are gonna sell props. Like, that's what's gonna. That's what's gonna happen. Like, oh, I have this great prompt here. Buy my prompts.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, I mean, that's like a new talent. Like, that's. That's actually among the handful of, like, skilled jobs that is emerging out of this impending AI apocalypse is like, how do you become a skilled prompter?

[Blake]

Although.

[Andrew Colvette]

How do you manipulate AI? The best?

[Charlie Kirk]

Although what's interesting is we have at the same time this is happening, we also have the warnings that we're headed towards. They call it AI model collapse.

[Blake]

Yeah, this is actually promising. It's going to cause a little pause. I hope.

[Charlie Kirk]

We will see. But what's so what's very funny is the way they trained these AIs is we fed them for text, tons and tons of text. Like every post ever made on Reddit, every post ever made on, like, the comments section of every website to make it so they could imitate how people talk. And, you know, every book ever written, all of that. And then similar for video, it's like, feed it every video ever posted on TikTok, every film ever made, and they train it. And they. With huge amounts of computing power, you know, enough to power an entire country, they're able to find the patterns in this. And that is how the AI models work. They're generating stuff based on patterns they've recognized and what we. What we're getting now is since the models have been created, now we're able to use the models to generate new text. So search anything on the Internet. Now you're getting AI prompts back, like articles that are being written. The Chicago Sun Times did an article of what articles to read, like what novel, not articles, what novels you should read this summer. And they wrote it with ChatGPT and it got hallucinated. Are books that don't even exist. So huge amounts of text is out there that's not made by humans, it's made by AIs and they're imperfect. And huge amounts of video and photos are out there that are not made by humans. They're made by AIs with all of the problems that they have. And these AIs are still learning off of all of that AI generated content. And so it's becoming like a garbage in, garbage out problem. The AIs are getting worse because they've been fed AI stuff. So they're getting worse at imitating people because now half the stuff that they're consuming is just other robots, which is.

[Blake]

Going to create more demand for labor to fix this. I mean, that's a huge problem.

[Charlie Kirk]

So for example, let's say that Chicago Sun Times article that hallucinated fake novels. Now it's in the database of facts that other AIs are going to use. So now it's part of their factual database that novels that never existed exist. And so we're going to have AI model collapse, they call it.

[Blake]

Incredible.

[Cliff Maloney]

I also tell you guys, it's. It's becoming the new thing that everybody's selling. It reminds me of like digital ads when they first started happening. Like I'm just getting blown up, not just for political, but like just like business stuff, right? And all the older folks are like, oh, are you using AI? And it's like, well, what does that mean?

[Charlie Kirk]

Right?

[Cliff Maloney]

But I think it's going to become the new product where like everybody's selling it.

[Blake]

I agree.

[Cliff Maloney]

95% of people that are buying have no clue like, you know, what tier or what level of quality is this. I seem to be funny to watch that play out the.

[Blake]

I mean, we can have a whole other hour. I have to go on AI girlfriends. It's like very scary what's happening there.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's scary. Another thing that's scary on the other end, just the dependency. So I saw a tweet the other day where a guy says, my daughter or my wife has, I think it was my daughter has a friend who has A boyfriend. And she fed their text message exchanges into a chatbot and said, is my relationship healthy? And it came back, no, your relationship is abusive for XYZ reasons. And she, like, broke up with the boyfriend because the AI robot told her her relationship was bad.

[Blake]

Yeah, well, gotta run. Until next week. Keep on committing thought crimes. This was not AI. This was a real conversation.

[Charlie Kirk]

Allegedly.

[Blake]

Allegedly. Talk to you soon.

[Charlie Kirk]

So, Jack, are you there right now, Blake?

[Jack Posobiec]

I am. I'm here right now. And, yeah, with all the travel schedules and Charlie's out in Europe, and then I'm in up the next day, and then we are at the conclave. And sometimes it just doesn't always work. But, you know, there's one topic that was just near and dear to my heart, and that, of course, is white genocide. And I said, you know, if we're going to talk about white genocide, it's definitely the. The type of topic that we need to get to on thought crime, because literally this is a topic where people are debating if it's an actual genocide or not. And that's fine. But the point is, this topic would actually have gotten you banned on X. If you even mentioned those words, like, not even that long ago, like five, six years ago on X, when it was still Twitter, you would have been banned for even mentioning it. There would be a full court press from the mainstream media. You know, it used to be that if I tweeted something about South Africa, I would immediately get requests for comment, requests for comment, you know, from, like, the Telegraph and the Guardian and the Independent and all this. And now it's like Donald J. Trump is mainstreaming this stuff in the Oval Office itself. And they say, we don't do any of that. And he goes, oh, yeah, turn on the lights. I want to show you something. And it's just been one of the most incredible. It obviously was one of the most incredible moments that I've ever seen being done. But really on an issue that I think is probably more worthy than so many others out there around the world, because this is, quite frankly, something that is actually going on where you have a government that is killing people. And as Marco Rubio said recently, he said, why do you care so much about the color of their skin? He said, they're to. I think it was, you know, this Democrat senator from Virginia, and Rubio goes, because he's being killed. They're all being killed because of the color of their skin. And so, Blake, you know, why is it that this issue, above all issues, I guess, and that's What I want to get into is something that not only does exist, but why do. Why was the media so adamant and still is so adamant on trying to say it isn't happening?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. So first, just to refresh people very quickly, you guys have seen the shoot the boar stuff, but I want to remind people of what Trump did in the Oval Office a week ago because it was highly, it was highly entertaining, I will say. Let's see, we have a bunch of clips about it. Let's see what one of the best one is. How about. Let's play clip 176.

[Andrew Colvette]

But you do allow them to take land. No, no, no, no. Do allow them to take nobody. When they take the land, they kill the white farmer.

[Jack Posobiec]

And when they kill the white farmer.

[Charlie Kirk]

Nothing happens to them.

[Blake]

No, there is quite. Nothing happens.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's great. And then let's also do a, this is a very fun, darkly funny. Let's do 177.

[Andrew Colvette]

So the issues that concern you as the United States, those are all deaths.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Andrew Colvette]

In many ways, I mean one, one.

[Charlie Kirk]

Should say you are a partner, partner of South Africa. So, yeah, that was, that was Trump just picking up, you know, shoveling article after article, document after document. Here, oh, here's another farmer. Oh yeah, they, they, they slit his throat. They, they boiled this person in, you know, a vat of oil. The most horrifying stuff in the world.

[Jack Posobiec]

And read the, the, the New York Times. The way they wrote it up was so funny because it was like, it was like at one point President Trump just started throwing articles at the president of South Africa saying death, death, death, horrific death, death.

[Charlie Kirk]

And just there was, we played this.

[Jack Posobiec]

Full, full on, straight up mogging of a world leader in the full office.

[Charlie Kirk]

And like, and then they're all trau. We played this on Charlie's show where there is like this New York Times reporter who of course, this really says it all. The, the South African bureau chief at the New York Times was previously just an American race reporter. So that's who they sent to South Africa. And he does this bit where he's explaining it, you know, doing one of the New York Times videos where he simultaneously says in the same videos, one, this isn't happening. There's no, you know, Trump brought up how they seize land without compensation. And he says, okay, you know, there's no, this is not happening. They're not going to do it. And what they are doing instead is there's a law, it doesn't say you can just take land without compensation. There's a Law where you can take land without restitution if it's in the. If it's for the national interest or the public interest. He said it's okay if it's for the public interest or the other thing he said is if land is not being used, oh, I'm sure both of those will not be abused at all. But. So we've been hearing about this for a few weeks. I think what I really want to get at about this, the way they freak out about this, the way the media really denies this is happening. And what people need to understand is this is not purely about South Africa. It very much is. It's about America and it's about other countries. And it's really about. We'll be frank about this. It's like they really, they don't like white people. And specifically a lot of them want them dead. So this went viral just a short time ago.

[Jack Posobiec]

Where.

[Charlie Kirk]

What's, what's that cut? We have released messages. Yeah, let's get a 294 up there. So this is the shooter, Elias Rodriguez. He was, he's the suspect, you know, likely guilty in the shooting of those two Israeli embassy staff. And what he said in these text messages that were released by Ken Klippenstein on his substack, he says, lol, you probably would have to actually genocide white people to make this America normal country. And even a very targeted and selective rehabilitation program would probably have to lead to the lifetime imprisonments of tens of millions of white people. So this is a guy talking about America, and this is a guy who decided he would fight against the white people he hated by shooting two employees of the Israeli embassy. So this all sort of circles around into a big pile. South Africa. Most people will admit South Africa is a messed up country, but the narrative that the left will give is that South Africa's entirely messed up just because they had apartheid decades ago. And any problems they have are just the legacy. The aftermath of apartheid. And it gets more powerful the further in the past it is. So even though South Africa was better in 2002 than it is today and that and 2002 was closer to apartheid, apartheid is the reason that it's getting much worse now that it's gotten so much worse since then. And when they blame it for that, what they really just mean is it's like white people's fault. You'll see this thing like, they just have to go, they're colonizers. They can't. They shouldn't be allowed to own the land. It's not their country. And how does this loop around? It loops around then to Israel. Why is Israel an illegitimate country? It's actually very misleading if you just say it's anti Semitism because there are definitely people who hate Israel because it's Jewish and it has Jewish people in it. But for the modern left, for someone like this embassy shooter, they actually substantially, they hate Israel because they see the Israelis as Europeans, as white people, as colonizers. All of that goes together. You'll see lines on TikTok that they're like, they'll just describe them as people who came from Poland. Like, go back to Poland. That's where you're supposed to be. And why does this matter for all of you watching? Because that's also what they think about America. I'm sure you saw Jack the other day, the king of England, he went, or the king of Canada, King Charles, he delivered his speech to the Canadian parliament and he opens it with a land acknowledgement. That acknowledgement that he is speaking on unseated. I think it was the Algonquin. Algonquin land. What he's saying is, okay, well, Canadians, you don't have the right to your country. It's not your country. And that is, of course, wait, what they have planned for all of you.

[Jack Posobiec]

Because I have a thought about this, because I did see King Charles's speech as I watch all of his speeches. And I was watching this, I said, wait a minute. So if he's saying that Canadians don't have a right to Canada, then isn't he saying that the Canadian government is at the itself illegitimate? And if the Canadian government is therefore illegitimate, then it cannot repel annexations from other powers on the North American continent. That means that it is terra nullis. It is in fact non entity land. Therefore, if we go and occupy it as the 51st state, they could not under international law do anything about it because he just said himself that it is an illegitimate. I'm just saying, guys, I'm just saying.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, you could imagine. Just saying what if, what if president.

[Jack Posobiec]

You'Re telling me that that's an illegitimate government.

[Charlie Kirk]

So President Trump could call their bluff and say the land is unceded. So the only people who concede it are the first nations tribes. And he'll just, he should just call, you know, the Cree nation, the Inuit nation, the Algonquin, just summon all of the first nations tribes and just say, all right, I'll give you guys, you know, 10 million a person if you'll, if you'll cede your Land claims to the United States.

[Jack Posobiec]

You can have Toronto and you can still have all. Toronto is all yours. You can have Toronto. We don't want to deal with it, Ms. Agua, you know, it's too many migrants anyway. It's not going to vote our way. You get that? We want everything else. Deal or no deal. So they're going to. So be in. Blake. The thing that I want, and you know, in the interest of keeping the segment not, not too lengthy, is what people need to understand. When I wrote this book on humans last year and we talked about this, people say, why does it matter? It matters because when every revolutionary movement comes forward, they always target one particular class. It was the kulaks in Russia, in China, it was the petty bourgeoisie. Or if you had, you know, you were a landowner. So basically, you know, people today, if you had any, like a second house or something. And by the way, go, go look at what the left says about landlords, if you want to see if that's actually changed on the far left and not newsflash, it hasn't. They want to kill all of them. And now in, you know, and so in revolutionary France, it was one of these. In Spain, it was one of these. It was the religious. Anyone who was. It was Catholic, anyone was associated with the clergy, the church. You also saw that in France. And Blake, you and I did some incredible interviews on this that turned into this book, actually. And so the point is, boys and girls is they want to bring that here. Critical race theory was first implemented in a country, I think, on a national scale in South Africa in their Constitution of 1996. And you have all of these articles pertaining to disparate impact. And you mentioned apartheid, they call it, you know, the, the inequalities of the past. So this idea of inequalities of the past is. So racism of the past is. Is why we need racism now. And it can only be solved by racism now, is sort of the way they put it. And so the disparate impact has to be, well, if, if this many people, and they had this in Zimbabwe, right, because Zimbabwe, a similar situation, formerly Rhodesia, where 3% of the population, which was white, owned 51% of the land. And so they wanted to flip that around where 90%, 97% of the population which is black, would own that 51%, or correction, 97% of the land. Now, obviously, that's not how any of our laws work. That's not how contracts work. That's how any of this works. And we've seen the results again and again. And if anyone disagrees, well, they just kill you. Guess what? That's exactly what they want here in the United States. They use these African post colonial nations as Marxist breeding grounds. They've certainly used this. And you can go back to the ZANU and we talk about that in the book and so many other examples of where the KGB and the Chinese Communist Party were standing up, these revolutionary movements in South Africa and in the independence movement at the time. And so then the idea is that this cultural Marxism gets spreads out. And you have leftists here in the United States like this Elias Rodriguez and so many others who start supporting it and saying, we're going to take matters into our own hands because we want these ideas to be spread to their fullest fruition. And when they're spread to their fullest fruition, what does that mean? White Christian males are not allowed to own land and they are allowed to be the approved targets. And if you're affluent and say, oh, I don't know, a health care CEO, well then along comes Luigi Maggione, if you're a billionaire who's running for president again. Now along comes Thomas Matthew Crooks. And we're seeing it more and more again. These street assassinations are going to continue. And Blake, here's what I love about this. When it comes down to the idea, when we tell them, when we say, okay, you're clearly targeting white people. You're systemically targeting white people. You've done so with your policies, you're doing so with your street assassins. And when I say this, they'll call me an extremist, they'll call me far right, they'll call me a conspiracy theorist. But never once, Blake, will they call me wrong.

[Charlie Kirk]

Exactly. Yeah. It's truly deranged. You know, you mentioned, like the kulaks in Russia. I think another good one is, you know, Maoists. The Maoists during the Cultural Revolution, they had them, they were called the five black categories. That's what they called it in Chinese. And the five black categories, black meaning, you know, bad, wicked landlords, rich farmers, counter revolutionaries, bad influencers, which actually included like actual criminals and right wingers, which those were the five categories. And just basically it meant if you were in any of those categories, obviously landlord is a pretty broad one. Right winger, a pretty broad one. You were just sort of presumptively guilty of all of these evils. And if you're on the modern left, like, what it really is, is kind of being a white person makes you a black category in A country like South Africa, or, frankly, in a country like the United States. I wanted to flag another thing. This was posted by the DSA Liberation Caucus. So the Democrat Socialists of America, far left organization, a few members of Congress, have described themselves as Democratic Socialists. I don't think they're members of this party, but it's this milieu of people who are on the far left. And so the DSA Liberation Caucus, which is a subgroup of it, they released a statement on Wednesday saying that Elias Rodriguez, embassy shooter, is a political prisoner. They say the Palestinian struggle is the tip of the spear against global imperialism. Whether in the besieged Gaza Strip, the Red Sea, the south of Lebanon, or the heart of the U.S. there must be consequences for genocidal Zionist imperialism. And so, yeah, is that anti Semitic? To some extent. But they're really just saying, like, you are bad because you are a European and in places we don't want you. And what you'll discover is the places they don't want you are eventually everywhere. It is an inherently like. It's an ideology that seeks to dispossess people, to delegitimize people, to destroy people. And there's a disturbing number of people at the New York Times, in the media, who are perfectly happy to egg this along, to justify it, to give credence to these insane justifications where, you know, they'll say, oh, kill the boar. It's just a. It's just a protest song. It's a. It's an anthem of, like, historical resistance. And you just really want to look up.

[Jack Posobiec]

That's what's so amazing. Because when they, when they're chanting and I post this and I post the size of some of these protests because people don't realize this are these rallies that are going on. And they'll say, they, you know, they can't realize how big it is. It's thousands and thousands. Biggest Trump rallies, some even bigger than Trump rallies and the people coming in. But again, when it's killed the boa, kill the white farmer, it's, we're told, this must be put in context, this must be understood through nuance and to say, okay, well, you're targeting white people. Oh, my gosh. Is that a dog whistle? Is that a dog whistle? Posobic, Are you dog whistling against it? What do you mean? I'm just saying that I think it seems like you guys want to genocide all the whites. And my gosh, look at this fascist, this neo Nazi extremist. Wait a minute. I'm just describing the things that he's saying on stage. And so you kind of get into racial parallax. You know, it's not true. And it's good that it's happening.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Now, now, keep in mind, like, I think about eight years ago or so, like Ol Miss told people to stop playing Dixie at football games because, like, that was a dog whistle. Cuz it's just. It's a song about the south that is from before the Civil War. And that's really it. That's all it is. And like, that was bad. Like, that was a racist song. But yeah, like, kill the boar. That is a. That's a nuanced historical thing. I love to do this. I think I've done this before. But you can read the lyrics. Just look up the lyrics to Kill the boar on Wikipedia. They're still there for now, these are the lyrics to Kill the boar in English, not leaving anything out. The cowards are scared.

[Blake]

Shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot.

[Charlie Kirk]

The cowards are scared. Shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot the boar. Shoot, shoot, shoot the boar. Shoot, shoot, shoot the boar. Shoot, shoot, shoot the boar.

[Andrew Colvette]

Shoot, shoot.

[Charlie Kirk]

Wow.

[Jack Posobiec]

So many layers of meaning. So much, so much nuance.

[Charlie Kirk]

The cowards are scared.

[Jack Posobiec]

I wish we. I wish we could go on. I wish you go on for more of this, but I gotta. I gotta jet to my next thing here, man. Victor Orban's calling me from the next room.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right. You have a good time there, Jack. Support. Support the. The turning point world overseas.

[Jack Posobiec]

Always supporting the turning point world. And folks, as always, wherever you are in the world, go out there and commit more thought crimes.

[Andrew Colvette]

Thought crime is death.

[Jack Posobiec]

Is death.

[Charlie Kirk]

It.