THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 98 — The Comey Indictment? Antifa Agenda? Charlie and the Cubs?

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec

Episode: THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 98 — The Comey Indictment? Antifa Agenda? Charlie and the Cubs?

Date: September 27, 2025
Host/Panel: Jack Posobiec, Andrew, Blake Neff, Tyler (“Tylenol Boyer”)

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Brief Overview

This episode centers on the breaking news of former FBI Director James Comey’s indictment, examining the charges, their context, and the wider political implications. The team also discusses the cultural fallout from the assassination of Charlie Kirk, public reactions—including an MLB controversy around Cubs player Matt Shaw—and broader issues of justice, lawfare, and political polarization in America.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Setting the Scene — Team Dynamics & Charlie Kirk's Legacy

• The ThoughtCrime posse convenes in the Charlie Kirk studio, reflecting on the emotional context following Charlie’s assassination.
• Reminiscence of studio memories and camaraderie provides a backdrop for heavier topics.

2. The Comey Indictment: What Happened and Why (Starts ~03:15)

• Charges: Two counts—(1) Making false statements to Congress and (2) Obstruction of a congressional proceeding.
  • Count 1: Comey allegedly lied during a 2020 Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, denying he had authorized anyone at the FBI to be an anonymous press source regarding an investigation into “Person One” (widely implied to be Trump). (06:00)
  • Count 2: Obstruction for the same false statements during testimony, impeding a congressional investigation. (08:03)

Notable Quote:
"Comey told Congress in September 2020 that the Steele dossier was not used in the 2016 intelligence community assessment on Russia. But newly revealed emails show it was directly cited." — Jack Posobiec (34:12)

• The group unpacks the legal codes involved, comparing them to statutes used against January 6th defendants.
• Discussion on "poetic justice" as Comey faces the same obstruction statute used to prosecute J6 defendants. (10:23)

Notable Quote:
"Was it obstruction of Congress or obstruction of justice?" — Jack (08:28)
"It's obstruction of a congressional proceeding. It's very close; maybe a sister statute." — Blake Neff (08:44)

• Timing: The indictment was filed just before the statute of limitations would have expired. (11:50)
• Panel weighs whether this is a “well-prepared” case—discussion of needing airtight evidence, possible McCabe testimony, and that leaks themselves might not be central—rather, the cover-up and lying is.

Notable Quote:
"If your goal is just to get the perp walk on live TV, you might want to cool it down a bit... Justice is not making Comey do a perp walk. Justice is finding the truth, holding him to account." — Blake Neff (13:08)*

3. The Political & Legal Landscape: Reciprocity, Lawfare, and Jury Issues (19:04)

• Exploration of venue—Eastern District of Virginia ("rocket docket")—and its historical appropriateness for national security cases, compared to the partisan DC jury pool.
• Larger point: Growing polarization is making lawful, non-politicized prosecution increasingly difficult.

Notable Quote:
"How are you going to get a jury of your peers when you're already stacked to have a jury that's completely against you because this is a political prosecution?" — Jack (20:19)*

• The concept of “reciprocal justice”—that after years of aggressive prosecution against Trump allies (sometimes on novel legal/ethical grounds), there’s a need to rebalance the scales, but with caution not to descend into pure vengeance or “banana republic” territory. (11:07, 66:12)
• BLake Neff voices caution on overreacting or becoming enthralled with “pageantry,” arguing the pursuit must be actual legal accountability.

4. Comey’s Persona, the Russia Probe, and “The Greatest Dirty Trick” (16:03; 37:30)

• Recap of Comey’s controversial history: the Hillary email probe, Russiagate, relationship with the media, and his own political evolution.
• The panel recalls how Comey briefed Trump on the Steele dossier—a move that enabled its dissemination by the press, particularly Jake Tapper at CNN—and how this moment catalyzed the Trump-Russia “hoax.”
• The group lambastes Comey’s public “main character syndrome,” grandiosity, and tendency toward TV drama in public statements.

Notable Quotes:
_"He really sees himself as the main character of an espionage novel." — Blake (43:58)*
_"He's going to run to MSNBC, put his little memos out, and act like he's the defender of democracy. Remember, every time they say that, these are the same people who tried to throw a former president in federal prison for 700 years." — Jack (41:29)*

5. Media Response & MSNBC Panelist Meltdown (48:48)

• The panel plays contemporary reactions from MSNBC and critiques their instant alignment in Comey’s defense, even before reading the indictment.
• They note a broader issue: left-leaning panels refuse dissent or contrarianism, in contrast to their show’s encouragement of diverse viewpoints.
• Cross-comparisons are drawn—how Trump’s and his allies’ indictments were received with glee, while Comey’s triggers pleas to “let the system play out.”

6. Lawfare's Impact on Everyday People: Tyler's Story (23:12)

• Tyler (“Tylenol Boyer”) recounts personal experience being indicted for signing an alternate elector certificate in 2020, pointing to the immense financial and emotional burden and the chilling effect lawfare has on political participation.

Memorable Moment: Charlie Kirk’s unwavering support for Tyler through his ordeal. (24:01)

7. Culture War Fallout: Cubs Player Matt Shaw Attends Charlie’s Memorial (67:04)

• Coverage turns to the backlash Cubs rookie Matt Shaw faced after missing a game to attend Charlie Kirk’s memorial at the invitation of Kirk's widow.
• They play audio from Mets announcer Gary Cohen, who criticized Shaw for his absence, suggesting it was only acceptable for “family emergencies.”

Notable Quotes:
_"That strikes me as really weird. Well, you strike me as a jerk." — Jack (72:21)*
_"His friend was murdered in a political assassination the likes of which this country has not seen since the 1960s... the entirety of this story is Matt Shaw on defense, when the truth is this Gary Cohen guy needs to be on defense." — Andrew (77:25)*

• The panel calls out the hypocrisy when it's revealed Cohen missed a Mets game for his dog's death earlier in the year.
• Broader reflection: Cynicism, lack of empathy, and social media mockery further reveal America’s deep division.

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Notable Quotes & Moments By Timestamp

• 03:15: “Every single network right now, James Comey indicted. Two counts… Possibly one of the biggest steps towards writing the scales of justice in America.” — Jack
• 08:28-09:15: In-depth comparison of Comey’s charges to those used against J6 defendants.
• 13:08: “If your goal of indicting someone is to get the perp walk on live TV… justice is finding the truth. Not making Comey do a perp walk.” — Blake
• 20:19: “How are you going to get a jury of your peers when you're already stacked to have a jury that's completely against you?” — Jack
• 23:12: Discussion on lawfare’s chilling effect—“no worse feeling than when the entire government’s coming after you.” — Tyler
• 34:12: “Comey told Congress... the Steele dossier wasn’t used... but Tulsi Gabbard's released emails show it WAS cited.” — Jack
• 36:34: Comey’s self-righteous response video: “We will not live on our knees. And you shouldn’t either. Fear is the tool of a tyrant.” — Comey
• 41:29: “Every time they say that they’re defending democracy, these are the same people who try to throw a former president... into federal prison.”
• 43:58: “He really sees himself as like the main character of an espionage novel.” — Blake
• 55:44: Donald Trump’s reaction (“justice in America!”) and panel cautions about the perils of overexuberant public statements during pending trials.
• 66:12: “You must restore the scales of justice to balance… using the iron law of exact reciprocity.” — Jack
• 72:21: “That strikes me as really weird. Well, you strike me as a jerk.” — Jack about announcer Gary Cohen’s criticism of Matt Shaw.
• 77:25: “The entirety of this story is Matt Shaw on defense, when the truth... is that this Gary Cohen guy needs to be on defense because he's actually in the wrong.” — Andrew

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Additional Timestamps

• 11:50: On the statute of limitations driving the timing of the indictment.
• 15:00: Distinction between leaking classified info vs. covering up the leak.
• 24:01: Recounting Charlie Kirk’s support during Tyler’s lawfare ordeal.
• 41:44: Humor about Comey using his daughter’s Taylor Swift ring light in his selfie video.

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Tone & Style

• Spirited, energetic, sometimes irreverent and sarcastic.
• Blunt and critical of the mainstream media and political adversaries.
• Infused with moments of genuine emotion—especially reflecting on the loss of Charlie Kirk and support from the conservative community.
• Candid willingness to admit when unsure, question their own takes, and hash out legal/ethical nuances.

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In Summary

This episode offers a breakdown of James Comey’s indictment, contextualizing it within years of perceived double standards in American law and politics. The panel emphasizes the necessity for justice without partisanship or spectacle, all while exploring the emotional and cultural aftermath of lawfare and recent political violence, notably the assassination of Charlie Kirk. By dissecting both the legal details and the human reactions—from TV pundits, sports figures, and regular Americans—the show provides an unfiltered, deeply engaged look at the present American moment.

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For a balanced, detailed discussion on the Comey indictment, the state of American justice, and the ongoing effects of lawfare—alongside heartfelt remembrances and strong views on current events—this episode is essential listening.

Transcript

[A]

From the age of Big Brother. If they want to get you, they'll get you. DNSA specifically targets the communications of everyone. They're collecting your communications. Ladies and gentlemen, we are back. Hey, everybody. For this Thursday's edition of Thought Crime, we are here in. Of course, where else would we be? The Charlie Kirk Studio. We have four members of the Thought Crime posse with us. The fifth is on assignment from God. And we are here on a day such as this, where the breaking news is really a thought crime itself. And so when we were sort of chatting around the. Around the mic here, what do we talk about? And I said, guys, this. It's comey. It's all comey. We have to dig into this. So let's go around the horn. I'm here. I'm Jack. Got Andrew. Blake Neff, the great Twitter star Blake Neff, whose microphone is nowhere near him for some reason. You know, we usually use those.

[B]

Blake. Well, it's funny.

[A]

It's your first episode.

[B]

Oh, wait, you have to name the last one before I say what I was gonna say.

[A]

Oh, and of course, the end. Of course. Tylenol Boyer.

[B]

Tyler.

[C]

I like Tylenol changes. Lower changes.

[A]

That's what. That's why your mom. That's why your mom named you that, right?

[D]

My mom named me Tyler Null.

[A]

Tyler. Tyler.

[B]

So, you know, it's funny. So we. So we've been obviously hosting the Charlie Kirk show here. We've been hosting Human Events Daily with Jack Posobic here, and now we're hosting Thought Crime here. And I walk in, and Blake is sitting in my chair, and I was like. I was like, hey, that's my chair.

[A]

I saw this. This actually happened. But Blake is very terr.

[B]

Yeah, Blake, like, went full, like, autist, and you were, like, full Tylenol. And he goes. The tism. And he goes. He goes. No, this is where I sat every time we did that, and I was like, you know what?

[A]

Every single thing right here.

[C]

Tyler there, and then obviously the big man there, and then fourth person, if we had him in studio.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Usually I'd be there.

[B]

I was tempted to be like, a little butt hurt. And then I was like, you know what? He's got a point.

[C]

Even, like, rotate you, because that would. Then you're kind of honorarily still in.

[A]

Your weird, like, oh, you, like, put me in, like, closet. And, like, just.

[C]

We need to communicate with Starfleet here.

[D]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

I do kind of wish I could see the thing behind me.

[D]

My favorite one is kind of similar to where you're at anyways, because when you're remote, you're on the screen, so we look that direction at you anyway.

[A]

But do you remember there was an episode, it wasn't a thought crime, but it was an election stream where we had the camera angle set sort of straight and I think the table TV was like a little lower and, and it, and Bannon was on the TV and it looked like he was sitting in the middle of all of us because of the way the angles were. I have a picture of it somewhere.

[B]

It's really iron out the wrinkles much more since.

[A]

No, I actually like that, though. I thought that was kind of cool.

[B]

You know what I love, by the way, is that it still has you and you and Jax or Jack and you and Charlie's face in the photograph. I thought about that. It's kind of awesome.

[A]

So, and by the way, and we're looking at the know the video screen right here and you know every single network right now, James Comey indicted. James Comey indicted. Two counts, I got to say. I'm just going to say it. First off, Pam Bondi came through. Pam Bondi came through. This is something where I know she's faced a lot of criticism in her position, but look, this is possibly one of the biggest steps for, towards writing the scales of justice in America. We've had this two tiered system or three tiered system in some cases.

[B]

I'm excited to hear Blake's take on this, but.

[A]

Yeah, and James Comey played a big part of that. He played a very, very big part of that. And, and I just got to say, off the top, hats off to Pam, Bonnie, for doing this.

[B]

So, you know, it's the first thing I thought of when the news broke.

[A]

That you might get indicted.

[B]

I thought of no, thank goodness, no. You know what I thought of though, was when James Comey was on with Jen Psaki and was asking, well, what happens if Trump gets elected but then he still gets convicted of a crime? And he was like, well, we could put him in a special trailer out in the prison yard and there's special dispensations for that. And I don't know why that was the memory that flooded back into my head. You would joke about it other than the fact that it was the arrogance that these people exhibited. And now we're learning from this indictment and we should go over what we're learning in the indictment. But he was actively leaking all this stuff to the press. And we knew that, we knew that from before memos.

[A]

And I think it was Ben, I.

[B]

Think he kind of denied it, or he played coy and he was parsing his words, and it was all very transparent, but he. He was doing what a spook does, and he basically was playing the audience. And so the arrogance of going, we're gonna lock President Trump up.

[A]

Hey, man, not all spooks.

[B]

Not all spooks. Yeah, but we're gonna lock him up in a courtyard, and he's gonna be able to work out and shower and all this stuff, even as President of the United States. Locked up. I mean, it was just the arrogance of this man. And so there is a little bit of visceral. Kind of like this feels right. But I want to hear Blake's take.

[A]

On it before we do takes. Let's get. And Blake is always the best at this. What do we know about these indictments?

[C]

Exactly. So the indictment is pretty short, so we can basically read the whole thing. So this is the indictment, the United States of America versus James B. Comey, Jr. So count one is false statements within the jurisdiction of the legislative branch of the United States government that is lying to Congress. But in fancy speak, jurisdiction of Congress in the jurisdiction of the legislative branch of the United States government.

[A]

It's so good.

[C]

So on or about September 30, 2020, in the Eastern District of Virginia, the defendant, James Comey, did willfully and knowingly make a materially false, fictitious, and fraudulent statement in a matter within the jurisdiction of the legislative branch of the US Government by falsely stating to a US Senator during a Judiciary Committee hearing that he, James Comey, had not authored, not, quote, authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reports regarding an FBI investigation concerning Person one. Who could. Person one.

[A]

Person one was always Trump. Person one was always Trump two.

[C]

And then they say that statement was false because, as James Comey knew then and there, he had, in fact, authorized Person three to serve as an anonymous source in news reports regarding an FBI investigation concerning person one, all in violation of 18 US code 1000.

[B]

I heard person three was Andrew McCabe.

[C]

Is that it is almost certain that this is. Andrew McCabe was leaking things to the press at the instigation, at the approval of Comey, and that he then allegedly.

[B]

Does that make sense, though, that Andrew McCabe would. Or would he have sent a dispatch, sort of one of his little minions to do so? Well, or is it just that he dispatched it? So it's still. He's still person.

[D]

Yeah, that may be the same thing. Right. Is that he had his own people who, I mean, Those people could be working with the, you know, with the prosecutors.

[A]

Now that said, though, if he was doing that with the authorization of the Director of the FBI, would that be a crime?

[B]

Well, if it was confidential information, if.

[A]

It was classified information, it still would be, by the way.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

For the record.

[C]

And then they have count two, obstruction of a congressional proceeding honor about September 30, 2020, same day, this is a date he testified before the Senate.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

So in the Eastern District of Virginia, James Comey did corruptly endeavor to influence, obstruct and impede the due and proper exercise of the power of inquiry under which an investigation was being had before the Senate Judiciary Committee by making false and misleading statements before that committee in violation of 18 US code 1505. So basically they're double tapping him. They're saying by saying a false statement to Congress, he lied to Congress and engaged in obstruction of what Congress was investigating.

[A]

Was it obstruction of Congress or obstruction of justice?

[C]

It is obstruction of a congressional proceeding.

[A]

So I believe this was the same one that was used for a lot of the J6ers, isn't that right?

[C]

That was obstruction of an official proceeding. I think that's slightly different, but it.

[A]

Might be under the same.

[C]

I'm going to go, I'll go check that. Let's see what it might be like.

[A]

A sister statute or something. It's very close.

[C]

I think obstruction of a official proceeding is a bit different because that covered like, let's see, federal law, U.S. code 1512, this is 1505. So let's see, obstruction of a 15, obstruction of pending proceeding, 18 U.S. code 1505. Maybe they did get him on the same one.

[B]

Aha.

[C]

That would be.

[A]

No, no, because I remember I talked to Julie Kelly about that so many times and we were talking about the construction of that statute and how it was made and you know, really, what, what the purpose of it was, et cetera, et cetera. And so I just, I remember that, you know that. String. I'm so not a lawyer, but I remember that code.

[C]

Yeah, it's interesting. It's poetic, although it is. It is also interesting they're going for that simply from the fact that I know one of the legal cases in J6 was kind of premised on the fact that I, I believe they were.

[A]

Trying to overturn it.

[C]

Well, overturn it because the obstruction of official proceeding law was apparently intended to cover like almost terrorism type stuff. Like you're attacking, like you're burning documents, you're destroying things, you're doing like really big Aggressive stuff. And that's why it can cover a 20 year penalty. And it probably, they argued, wasn't meant to cover lesser things like base. You know what J6 was, where they just kind of broke in and like were hooligans for a while.

[A]

And some who were not, some were.

[C]

Not, some were not. But that's how they were. They were getting tons of people on the, you know, oh, you obstructed the proceeding by walking in and making congress run away for a bit.

[A]

I just, I just want to say that again so it, it looks like, it looks like that James Comey was indicted under the same code. The J6ers were just saying.

[B]

There's some. Just saying, some sweet, poetic, some spiritual justice there.

[D]

Well, that makes it really difficult for.

[B]

All the people, so.

[A]

And now how are they going to argue against it when they said they were all for it with Sixers?

[B]

Well, so. So, Blake, I want you to chime in on something that you have, I think, beat into my head over the last however many years. You do not want to fly off the cuff willy nilly with half baked crap against your political opponents because then you're starting to get into banana republic territory.

[A]

I don't think this is half baked at all.

[B]

Well, so I'm not saying it is. I'm saying, I'm saying as a general rule, Blake is always geared that way. He's sort of assuming that there is a cartoonish, clownish character that can emerge when we're trying to seek justice or vengeance is what we call him.

[A]

Black Pill Blake, by the way.

[B]

Black Pill Blake, Contrarian Blake. But no, but it's a good brake to a gas pedal. You got to have both pedals to drive the car and not get into a crash. Okay, so looking at the details, Blake, would you put it in the half baked, gun half cocked, or would you put this in the. Would you put this in the. This looks pretty well thought out and they've taken their time and they've done. They've. It's pretty open and shut.

[C]

Well, so contextually, one reason it's dropped now is the statute of limitations for what they've charged him with actually expires next Tuesday.

[A]

So they basically had to do this.

[C]

It was now or never in terms of dropping it. So at the least it's not. It's not rushed out in that sense. They could not have delayed it more. And so hopefully they've lined a lot of this up. I worry if the charges are strong enough, it's basically like, you know, it Says. So if they can basically prove that he directed people to leak things and that that is criminal.

[A]

As we Understand, this means McCabe might have to testify against him.

[C]

That would be very interesting. Yes, because they.

[A]

Because if he's person three and he was direct, so directed, then McCabe would have to testify.

[D]

That's his only way out. That's his.

[A]

That's his only way to McCabe's only way out. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So he'd have to testify. And if he doesn't, then. Oh, by the way, you're going the same place Band and Navarro.

[D]

That's right. As long as that.

[B]

If.

[D]

As long as that, you know, holds true.

[A]

Well, and I mean, if he is person three, then. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. Now, a thing I saw that did. It gave me pause. I saw a few people say it on X, where they immediately said, oh, you and I were talking about this, Jack. Someone said, like, give him a perp walk on live tv. And all I would say is, if your goal of indicting someone is to get the perp walk of them.

[B]

You.

[C]

Might want to cool it down a bit.

[B]

That's when it goes into that. That cartoon character.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

You don't.

[C]

You don't. A lot of people, they want the pageantry. They want the imagery. They love people kind of People are upset. They like. They are. And they like the TV image of, like, the people who have hurt us, who have done things that have infuriated us, you know, justifiably.

[B]

Justifiably, Justifiably.

[C]

And then they like the idea of them facing justice. But I would again, caution, people, justice is not making Comey do a perp walk. Justice is finding the truth. And if he. Finding the law, holding. Finding him guilty and holding him to account.

[A]

If you anyone can search my Twitter, I'm against perp walks. I've always been against them. I find them prejudicial. If someone's guilty, find him guilty. Just find him guilty and take it to trial and put it out there. I've just. I've always had this. I said it for, like, Harvey Weinstein. I said it for a number of people on the left. I'm. I'm just not for pork parks.

[C]

And so. And just to caution everyone, and I'm gonna say, remember where we were two years ago? They indicted Donald Trump on a bunch of things, and they were extremely happy about it.

[A]

They walked him down Fifth Avenue, they.

[C]

Gloated about the mug shots, and they.

[B]

Were about every legal theories. And this. Yes, they overreached.

[C]

And it absolutely sent the right. Bonkers. It guaranteed he was going to get the nomination. I mean, he almost certainly was anyway. But 100% ended the primary. It gave huge impetus to everyone on the right. And it continued to do that because so much of the case was a clown show with Big Fanny, with Alvin.

[A]

And this is not a novel legal theory here, though.

[C]

It is.

[A]

This is very grounded, straight, grounded false statement and instruction.

[B]

It feels very sort of cut and dry in a sense. Like, it's a very simple thing they're alleging.

[C]

It's. Yeah, it is a simple allegation. It's a simple thing they're alleging. It's something that people have been prosecuted before, like, oh, you're basically masterminding leaks. Do we know what he convicted people?

[B]

We know what he leaked.

[A]

I believe it was these memos.

[B]

He leaked the memos to who? And what were the.

[A]

No, no, no, no. Actually, wait. Blame. I'll ask. This isn't about the memos because it's about someone being in an anonymous FBI source in news reports. So what's interesting is that the content of what was leaked isn't brought up in the indictment here. It's. It's more the discussions around how the leak occurred. So it's one of those examples where it's like the COVID up is worse than the crime. Right. So it's not the crime that gets you, it's the COVID up that gets you. So because he lied in the investigation of this leak, that's what they're getting him on. And, and so we'd have to go back and we should find the. I'm sure, I'm sure people have already found because it has the date of the hearings. I'm sure we could pull up what the, you know, what he was talking about.

[B]

I think I know where I can find that.

[A]

The Internet.

[B]

So you know what's interesting about Comey, though? Which is. Which is a, which is just an interesting piece of the Comey saga. Right.

[A]

He's a douchebag.

[B]

Well, he does really come off like one. But secondly, he, you know, he had that moment with Hillary Clinton that probably helped President Trump. Right. In 2016, where he said, we're opening the investigation into the email servers.

[A]

Yeah. But he's also the guy who shut it down.

[B]

Well, they hated him. Then they welcomed him back on msnbc, et cetera. But it's just like, it's an interesting. He's traveled a circuitous route. Right. And he was sort of long known to be a Republican.

[A]

Yeah, he was kind of like, well, Blake you probably remember this. Do you remember Blake, who came up with the phrase Ferguson effect?

[B]

Oh, gosh.

[C]

Who was it?

[A]

James Comey.

[C]

Really?

[A]

James? Yeah. I don't know if he is, like, is the initial person who come up with it, but he certainly used it and popularized it. And James Comey used to talk about.

[C]

The Ferguson FBI has thousands of people in it. It feels weird how Comey is this, like, Forrest Gump guy who just keeps popping up everywhere.

[A]

Yeah. And I don't remember. He was never an FBI agent. I think he was a doj. He was like a lower attorney and then eventually got plucked out of that. And he was the successor to Mueller in. And then he, you know, he, you know, came up through those ranks. But he was. Yeah, he was someone who was known, known, quote, unquote, as a Republican prior to all of this. But he's one of those like. Like, MSNBC Republicans.

[C]

He's a Republican who took all of the changes of the 2010s very hard. And he went from being this, like, six foot five or. How tall?

[A]

Six, eight.

[C]

Six, eight.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So he's basically. He went from being literally.

[A]

Him and Glenn Youngkin were the only guys in the game taller than he.

[C]

Went tall, Republican prosecutor to.

[B]

Yeah. Baron's world.

[A]

Yeah. Baron's giant.

[C]

I mean, you just kind of look at him with, like, his, like, this is what a feminist looks like shirts or whatever it was he had. He went. He was at one of those. He was at one of those women's marches, wasn't he?

[B]

I don't remember that part. I just remember that. What did. He may have been surprised he did the 8647 thing. But. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Which is psycho.

[B]

Which is. Yeah. And he played dumb, like.

[D]

And he played like. Oh, I didn't know what that meant. I thought it meant, like, cancel Trump.

[B]

Well, get him out of here. Yeah.

[A]

No, no, Give him the hook.

[B]

Yeah. And this is after, you know, the assassination attempts on President Trump.

[D]

And that even. I mean, that plays into the run up here with Charlie's assassination, which is like. It's guys like James Comey that were publicly calling for the elimination of public officials.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And this is why it's so sick and twisted, and it. It should make everyone angry. And we need to turn that. As we. We talk about. We need to turn that anger into action. But that animosity that these people had are what has stoked the flames that have turned into hurting people. And, you know, that's. Aside from what he's being. He's being accused of breaking.

[B]

Former FBI Director James Comey is expected to surrender tomorrow morning. That's per cnn. So he will turn himself in.

[A]

And well, Blake, one of the things that I should also mention in the sense that based on what we know now, the fact that it's in the Eastern District of Virginia is likely an attempt to get it out of the D.C. district, where of course, we know the D.C. jury pool is. And, and you know, it is what it is. Right. It's part of the system where it's 96. We should probably pull it up for the 2024 election. It's, it's just full on Democrat. Every single J6 or I think there was 100% conviction rate. And on the flip side, there was 100% conviction rate for Bannon. There would have been for Trump, for Roger Stone, for General Flynn's situation. He would have been found guilty, et cetera, et cetera. So another, we know how bad that jury pool is.

[C]

You know, it just occurs to me this could, this feels like it could be a long running issue in US justice or what have you. Like, obviously, most big criminal cases are filed in big urban areas. Southern District of New York.

[A]

I know where you're going with this, and you're exactly right.

[C]

And it's going to be, it seems like a serious problem if, when our political polarization has grown to such a degree that you have a 9010 jury pool of potential people almost always weighted in favor of another party.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So how are you going to get a jury of your peers when you're already stacked to have a jury that's completely against you? Because this is a political prosecution.

[D]

It's a 9010.

[A]

Yeah. Whereas, whereas, by the way, the Eastern District of Virginia, it's known as the rocket docket. It's known for being a quick, you know, quick procedures there. And by the way, has been historically used for national security crimes. So this is something that they're, you know, there's so much of the national security.

[B]

The judges industry is there. The judges is, is the, is the big thing. I mean, we saw that.

[A]

So it's not like it's like you're just jury shopping. Like it's literally known for this.

[B]

Right. Well, but we, you know, the judges where it really matters. I mean, juries obviously matter, but so much of this happens at the judicial level. Right. I mean, you saw this with Eileen Cannon.

[A]

Well, and you're also looking at it from, to your point, the appeals circuits. Correctly here.

[B]

Yeah. Correct. No, so I mean, listen, my, my instinct here Is that the. So. And maybe, Blake, you would disagree with this, but my instinct here is that you've got Dan Bongino, Cash Patel, Pam Bondi under excruciating amount of pressure to come up with the goods. Right. They, the base wants, they want consequences and accountability for what we lived through during the Biden years. And goodness was there a lot of it. And it seems like they waited longer than would be politically advantageous for them. Right. Because their jobs are on the line. Right. I mean, they're wondering, are we gonna get fired by President Trump any day soon? And so they took time. Obviously, the statue's running out, but you gotta believe that when Dan Bongino would hint, like, trust me, things are coming, or Mike Davis would go on and be like, guys, I'm in the loop, just chill out, things are coming. Everybody just bide your time. This is definitely one of the things that they've been working on. And I gotta believe that whether it sticks or not, they're putting their best foot forward with the best, easiest case that they can probably do, right? To get a big name person that has wronged. Well, you know, by the way, conservative. So I would think that, I would think I all that to say I think I put a relatively high amount of confidence in the fact that they probably have a pretty good case here.

[A]

We. And so much of this we knew already. I actually was. One of the things I first went viral for back in 2017 was dinging Comey on false statements because he would do this all the time. He would say things in one testimony and then he'd say things in the next testimony. One time he said, I never felt coercion or pressure to end an investigation. And the very next time he, he went before Congress, he said, I felt pressured to end, to end the Russia investigation.

[B]

Well, by the way, that, that is the, that is a hallmark of a liar, which, this is essentially what they're accusing him of doing, lying in an official proceeding. But here. But, but a hallmark of a liar is that it's very, very difficult to keep the lie straight, even for a trained professional.

[C]

So I'm looking at. We already have kind of.

[A]

This is. Well, could I just respond to what, what, what it's. They didn't just go after Trump, they went after Trump supporters, they went after people in the States. They went after Tyler, they went after Tyler, they indicted Tyler.

[B]

Well, and there was definitely coordination.

[D]

We actually have some news on that this week. It's been great.

[A]

No, I mean, you've been fighting it, but you've had to spend. You've had to spend. I'm just going to like, like I know you don't talk about it. I got to say it now.

[B]

This, yeah.

[A]

Insane amounts of money.

[B]

This is actually a great Charlie moment.

[A]

Insane amounts of money.

[B]

When the indictment came down on to defend Tyler. Yeah. Charlie was like for signing a piece of paper. We got your back, dude. There's no daylight. We have you like you're not in this alone. I remember when he, he like when the news came and you were kind of like freaking out. Yeah.

[A]

It's, it was a pucker factor eight.

[B]

Like I think you.

[D]

I was traveling. I was in Michigan. I was at the Detroit airport which is a horrible place.

[A]

But you're already pucker factor six when you're there.

[B]

Charlie instantly chimed in in our, our three way chat and he said I.

[D]

Got you bro, 100%.

[A]

And I honestly that's what he said to me. He said cut him loot. No.

[B]

Well he said that to me group chat.

[D]

The funny part, I was in Michigan during all this because of the Michigan thing. But I was, I mean without a doubt. And this is all throughout all the years, Charlie always had my back and had always been, you know, the first to defend and everything else. And there was, there's no worse feeling than when the entire government's coming after you. And Charlie was the first was like we've got you 100% and, and yeah.

[B]

And now you've had some good deal.

[D]

With that and we had some good news like literally the, like the day after the appeal that the, so I my motion to remand back to the grand jury because they didn't bring sufficient evidence to prosecute. All of us got approved. It got, got basically remanded and the state was appealing and the appeal got denied straight up the this week. So so they have to start all over and we'll see what they do. So. And we know in Michigan just recently they, they knocked this whole thing off.

[A]

So but again that's, that's, that's so many people and, and, and by the way like okay, you know, you're an official attorney. Point God is turning point action. But so many of these people are just like county committee members and you know, just regular.

[B]

You were the highest senior citizens. Like you were the biggest target that they could get everybody.

[A]

Like there was a state chairman, you.

[B]

Know, like and all you did was public officials in the case that this, you know, some of our Trump's legal proceedings prove fruitful. Then we want to make sure because of the laws that we have this backup in place. That's all you did is a legal.

[A]

Theory that we've gone back to the 1960 election with Hawaii.

[B]

Exactly.

[D]

The Democrats actually came up with this whole idea of, you know, of having. Making sure. And again, it makes sense when you have close elections what you don't want to have happen in any of these states. And I can't get into too many of the details, but what you don't want to have happen is it be like within a few thousand votes and then they realize they did something wrong or they miscounted or whatever. And remember this is during COVID when all these new rules got put in place, all these bill in ballots. And so a lot of people had come to us and said, hey, we're not totally sure that everything is like on the up and up here.

[A]

People like Bob Spindell up in Wisconsin.

[B]

Case of emergency, you guys better have your paperwork.

[D]

No, the way I frame it is imagine if the papers aren't ready, how mad the president will be, how mad the.

[B]

The country will be, the voters.

[D]

Voters will be if you basically don't do the right thing.

[B]

People don't remember. It was like basically 43,000 votes across or 42,000 votes across three states.

[D]

Yeah, 10,000.

[B]

10,000. Blake, what were you gonna say? So. Oh.

[C]

So I just wanted to flag another breaking news item that's happened in relation to this is we kind of the way they're gonna hype this up. We have a Deputy U.S. attorney or Assistant U.S. attorney for the Eastern district of Virginia. He has filed a letter to uphold my oath to the constitution and country. I hereby resign as an assistant United States attorney for the Eastern district of Virginia in the Department of Justice, effective immediately.

[A]

Bye bye.

[C]

Troy Edwards Jr. Now what is funny is apparently Troy Edwards Jr. Is Comey's son in law.

[B]

There it is.

[A]

That does his daughter. His daughter who is a prosecutor for SDNY just got fired.

[B]

I can hear Jen Psaki now saying. Saying this is. We should to the rule of law.

[A]

We should pull some of the response.

[B]

I'm sure these clips are going to.

[A]

Be great if I know it's like happening right now.

[B]

Ryan Riley, can you guys get some please? Because I'm sure they're blubbering up there just like this. We live in a dictatorship and the tyranny of. Yeah, well, okay.

[A]

Could you imagine being indicted just very. And it's like literally.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

And here's. This is why we. This is why I'm talking about Tyler and. And like Tyler hates talking about it, but whatever. Sorry. Tylenol.

[B]

Well, I just.

[C]

I just.

[A]

Pop another one.

[D]

Talk about a lot.

[A]

No, I know, I know, but pop another Tylenol.

[C]

You'll be all right.

[D]

Someday we'll be able to talk a lot about it.

[A]

Yeah, but it's. It's that story that, that you have still this platform to be able to say and obviously have, you know, and having the backing of an organization to be able to fight that. Average people who went up against 1600 people were mass indicted over J. Six people were in, you know, in some cases lost their jobs over Covid. Some people lost even more than that over Covid. Donald Trump and anyone associated with him. People were losing their law licenses. People are still losing their law licenses. People indicted, people were sued. There was. There was mass insanity for four years, and every single time, it was some novel legal theory or some star chamber or some nonsense thing that nobody could even understand what the indictment was. And this one is. It's so simple. You lie to Congress, FBI Director lied to Congress. And let's be frank. Even though this, as far as I know, is the first time that an FBI director has been indicted, it's probably not the first time that an FBI director or CIA director has lied to Congress. And we certainly know that John Brennan or people like J. Edgar Hoover, the original director of the FBI, had a complete habit of this. You know, they used to say that J. Edgar Hoover would turn off the congressional wiretaps right before he went to testify so that when he testified, he wouldn't be lying when he said, oh, no, I would never wiretap members of Congress. And it's insane. It's totally. And his name's on the building, which should be completely raised, by the way.

[B]

And brick by BR65 Project. That's what I was thinking. The 65 Project.

[A]

All these names.

[B]

Yeah. But is the organization that was working to disbar lawyers who defended Donald Trump? I mean, this was like. It was like a full.

[C]

He thought he was lawyers.

[B]

Yeah. You couldn't even. Trump was having trouble getting lawyers because there was organizations that were well funded that were working to disbar his lawyers. This is how. This is how deep it went to other lawyers. Totally. It was absolutely. If you're a lawyer and you're like, I don't need the billable hours.

[A]

Yeah, right.

[B]

I don't need the. I don't need the controversy that comes with that.

[A]

No. Yeah. It's any firm. White shoe.

[B]

But he fought through it.

[A]

He fought through what? It's oh, I don't want to do this. I don't want to be involved with that. I want to be associated because it's a fear tactic. And this is actually in that, that clip of Charlie that Mikey posted recently about why Republicans are so scared to go on offense. Have you guys seen that going around from Nebraska? This is, this is what he talks about. He said, you know, he says, look at what they did to Bannon. Look at what they did. He's talking about lawfare and he's talking about how it creates a chilling effect for Republicans that nobody wants to ever. I'm going to have to use the phrase stick their neck out and. Because they don't want to be the next one. They don't want to be the next band, and they don't want to be the next. I think he says James o'. Keefe. And they don't be the next Donald Trump because they're terrified of standing out. Because when you stand out, you get cut down. And he explained the effect it had across all levels was was he relating that to the Cornhusker thing?

[B]

He was relating it to like taking offense in Nebraska for winter takeoff.

[D]

So, and this is really important. This actually relates really similarly to Jimmy Kimmel. And I'll explain how. So this week we saw the left lose their mind when Jimmy Kimmel got basically questioned, very basically questioned for what, what he was saying and doing in his on his platform. Remember, the left went after the individual. They went after individual conservatives and de platform them, de bank them, did all these things. It wasn't the big guys. It was the small guys in most cases that they were going the individual.

[A]

And that's my point.

[D]

It was the small guys in this same issue. They were going after the small people and indicting the small people and knocking the small people, whacking those moles all across the country and taking out the legs out from underneath the conservative movement. And it wasn't the, in most cases, it wasn't all just the big guys. It was the small guys they were getting rid of. And now they're all losing their mind over James Comey. The Comey Kimmel situation this week is so similar in the fact that the left had gone after the grassroots of this country, the average citizen trying to, just like Jack is saying, trying to dissuade them from participating from the civic and civic engagement, basic civic engagement. And then at the same time, they're wanting to protect the biggest arbiters in these problems that are really trashing and hurting the country. And they want to get away with it and they shouldn't be able to.

[C]

Real quick, real quick.

[A]

By the way, there's a bunch of video, I guess, just really quick.

[C]

I just want to thank you, Crochet Queen. She donated $50. God bless you all. Charlie has brought my husband and I back to reading the Bible. God bless you, Crochet Queen.

[A]

Thank you.

[C]

We're so happy to hear that. And Charlie always loved every time he heard someone said they were going to church, reading the Bible, taking their faith more seriously because of what they'd seen or heard from him. And we love that that's continuing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Do you have more?

[C]

Oh, no, that's always.

[A]

All right. Well, if there's more, keep them coming in, Blake. Blake will find them. Blake will read them, and we will shut up so that your voice can be on the air through our rumble rants. I just wanted to give a shout out to Greg Price because he's pulled the. What we believe to be the moment of. And we have the video. We'll get the video in a second. Of what Comey lied about. It was the Steele dossier. So that's, that's what we were thinking. So his, his tweet reads, james Comey told Congress in September 2020 that the Steele dossier was not used in the 2016. The ICA, this intelligence community assessment on the Russia hoax. And this was the big thing, right? This, this came out publicly, it was reported on, at least in the unclassified format that they're, you know, the intelligence community, remember, 16 agencies, 17 agencies over and over and over, they assessed that Russia hacked the election, that Russia hacked the election. And Comey told them that it did not involve the Steele dossier. Well, what do we put together with that, Tulsi Gabbard? Go back to July of 2025 when she released those unclassified emails and documents from how this was created. She found that the seal dossier was directly cited. And specifically it was, remember those Obama officials telling them that it wasn't real. And if I remember correctly, there were pretty high level members of the FBI. The FBI was part of this ICA. So one of those 17 agencies that's under the ODNI is the FBI. So the FBI was part of this. So there's no question that James Comey certainly would have not only been part of the initial process, but, you know, you'd want to review something like that.

[B]

Before you go to Congress. 247.

[C]

Not been verified.

[E]

I don't know whether it was Brennan. I remember being told that the group's view was it was significant enough and consistent enough with other intelligence that it ought to be included, but it wasn't sufficiently corroborated to be in the body of the intelligence community assessment. So they put a brief summary of it in an annex.

[C]

And. Oh, we got another one. Bell. CM1 donated $50. I just want to say you guys are doing a great job. You know it, Charlie knows it and so do all of us. So proud of all of you and thankful for you. We're thankful for you. Bell, thank you very much.

[A]

I appreciate that. And, and we have what Charlie Dwan is doing.

[C]

We have. Comey is giving a response to this as well. Does it? Is it loaded up? Looks like it is. Let's play Comey's response. 248.

[E]

My family and I have known for years that there are costs to standing up to Donald Trump, but we couldn't imagine ourselves living any other way. We will not live on our knees. And you shouldn't either. Somebody that I love dearly recently said that fear is the tool of a tyrant. And she's right. But I'm not afraid. And I hope you're not either. I hope instead you are engaged, you are paying attention and you will vote like your beloved country depends upon it, which it does. My heart is broken for the Department of Justice, but I have great confidence in the federal judicial system and I'm innocent. So let's have a trial and keep the faith.

[D]

He just reminds every time they talk.

[C]

It'S like it's very much I am in a TV show, like possibly one on Apple tv.

[D]

He reminds me so much of like Jeff Flake and Mitt Romney and like.

[A]

He'S all those people.

[D]

Liz Cheney. No. And Liz Cheney. And like these guys that like in the same way when they were went after Trump so hard and then like they had to come back and like the guys down in Georgia, what's, what's his name that left. Not Raffensberger, the other one that left the party.

[A]

That was the last party. Purdue.

[D]

No, no, no. There was a. I'm blanking right now.

[A]

Like state rep or something.

[D]

He was, he was, I think he was pretty high up. But anyways, long story short, not worth remembering.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Not worth all these guys. But they all not going to remember you. They all have a look about them. It's like this like really sheepish guilty look when they're like, that's triple vax.

[B]

But let's put this in context. What he's being accused of lying about is, as Roger Stone puts it, the greatest dirty trick in American history.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And what is that dirty trick? It's that they basically realized the Steele dossier was garbage, and yet there was a meeting. I forget the exact date. It was in December of 2016. So the election has happened. Donald Trump's about to take over as president and they get to work sabotaging the elected representative of the people to lead the country and the leader of the free world.

[A]

And who was it that briefed the Steele dossier to Donald Trump? It was James Comey.

[B]

Come.

[A]

James Comey. So this isn't like, this isn't an example of some low level functionary or, you know, someone who's got no culpability, wrong place at the wrong time. No, you were the individual, James Comey, who, through your own actions, by the way, we never really found who it was that leaked that to Jake Tapper, by the way, because it was Jake Tapper on CNN who's very, very upset that CNN had me on this week. He's like screaming about it behind the scenes over there.

[B]

Is he really?

[A]

He has been, yes, 100% confirmed. And that that's what gave the Steele dossier, quote, unquote, legs. Right. Remember that? Because before it was like, oh, it's the dirty dossier. Nobody wants to talk about it with. There's no, there's no action items here. It's, it's really weird. The Moscow stuff didn't make any sense really.

[B]

And so this is hilarious.

[A]

Well, keep in mind, then suddenly, suddenly James Comey briefs it to the president. And the very next day, just about Jake Tapper goes up on tv, Jake Taper and says, this was brief to the president. This is very important. This was brief to the president. Very important. And then buzzfeed publishes it in full, I think like a day out.

[C]

BuzzFeed still exist.

[A]

Not BuzzFeed News. I think they had to take it down. But Ben Smith does semaphore now so much.

[D]

The reason why I bring up those, those names, though, Andrew, is because never forget Senator McCain's involvement here. He was the one that was the one that handed it off. He was the one that received it in. I think it was, I think it was in Canada.

[A]

Yeah, it was at one of those, it was like a defense forum.

[D]

He was at a defense forum and somebody randomly came up to him and gave it to him. That was some head of state from somewhere and he was the one that delivered it. And that's why I bring up those names, because all of Those names revolved around that man, our late senator here in Arizona, John McCain. Just an interesting point, right, that, like, that was like the last final. You know. You know, everyone remembers the thumbs down on the. On the getting rid of Obamacare. This is also one of the biggest, most.

[B]

Yeah, I forgot. I actually forgot about that detail. Check this out, though. A little to Charlie here. Throw up image 250. And this is Charlie on 5, 7, 20. So in 2020, May 7, 2020, he says, retweet if James Comey should be prosecuted and charged for what he did to Michael Flynn. General Michael Flynn. So remember, Michael Flynn was entrapped, basically lured into a meeting without a lawyer under the assumption that this was a cooperative, hey, we're all in the government kind of thing. And then we also have a clip that's coming of former Director Comey sort of bragging about how he destroyed General Flynn's career. And so, I mean, you start putting all these little pieces together, and it's really hard to have a lot of sympathy for this guy. He's going to run to msnbc, he's going to put his little. His little memos out, his little selfie videos out, and act like he's the defender of democracy. But remember, every time they say that they're defending democracy, these are the same people that try to throw a former president, United States, into federal prison for 700 years under a novel legal theory.

[A]

So, but of course, if you're on. If you're on the left, if you're an MSNBC watcher. Right, Right. So, Blake, this is why they use that language, by the way. I have to say this. Did he have a ring light? Didn't. Can we get that picture up again? Like, do you see the lighting?

[B]

Probably watched, like, a swift selfie, I think.

[A]

Doesn't he have, like, teenage daughters? Is he on one of his teenage daughters? Taylor Swift. Ring lights on there, because you can see the distinctive. So everything.

[C]

Never believe.

[A]

They never believe that it was anti. Look at that. It's definitely a ring light. You can see the ring. Just say you can see it.

[B]

Zoom in on his pupils.

[A]

Zoom in on the pupils.

[B]

I bet you can see a ring.

[A]

You can definitely see a ring.

[B]

You're right.

[A]

And. And they will never admit what they did.

[B]

All right. Yeah, they won't. Let's play this. This is James Comey bragging about what he did to General Michael Flynn. 251.

[C]

You look at this White House now, and it's hard to imagine two FBI agents ending up in the Sit room. How did that happen?

[E]

I sent them something probably wouldn't have done or maybe gotten away with in a more organized investigation, more organized administration in the George W. Bush administration, for example, or the Obama administration. The protocol. Two men that all of us have perhaps increased appreciation for over the last two years. And in both of those administrations there was process. And so if the FBI wanted to send agents into the White House itself to interview a senior official, you would work through the White House counsel and there'd be discussions and approvals and who would be there. And I thought it's early enough, let's just send a couple guys over.

[C]

Yeah, it's just, it really gets a. Whether he goes to jail or not, like, we really need to make sure that James Comey is just remembered for what an like odious and very hubristic, like self important figure he was. That he's just this, they just call him the Cardinal.

[B]

Yeah, he just thinks, exactly right. This is exact, this is why this is so satisfying. And I'm trying not to give in to this like this visceral urge just to dunk on him and be like extraordinarily joyous. But you're hitting on exactly right. He's so pretentious and smug and, and go on.

[C]

And like not just smug, it's that he really sees himself as like the main character of an espionage novel, his.

[B]

Main character syndrome, or a TV show.

[C]

So it's like you think of all these other episodes, like in the 2016 election, remember he was a liberal villain first. And it's because he's so self importantly injecting himself into everything. I'm going to go on TV and I'm going to announce whether we're indicting Hillary and no one is going to know, not even Obama is going to know. And I'm going to then reopen, dramatically reopen the investigation the week before. But you know, it's not going to matter. And then I think he's even said, I cannot find where this was. But I'm pretty sure he basically said, I, you know, began to suspect Trump might be a Russian agent when I saw him on the podium saying like, you know that thing where he was like, oh, Putin should find Hillary's emails and every dumb person, including the head of the FBI, it turns out, is like, is he communicating directly with Putin? Like just the stupidest people in the.

[A]

World claim that he never saw Trump laugh. Like, I remember Comey saying that we have a, we have a rumble rant. We have a rumble rant. Cutting it. Breaking news. Rumble rant. D. Good 2020 sends in Charlie Will forever live in our hearts. We love all of you guys and God bless you. Love to Erica and the children.

[C]

Love to you. D. Good 2020.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

It's amazing. Really good people out there. I will tell you in the midst of all this tragedy and I think everybody's kind of wondering what kind of country we have and they're worried about their kids future. Those are valid concerns, valid worries. But I think you guys would all agree, like in the midst of that, I've never seen so much good either. I've never seen so much goodness, so much kindness from perfect strangers. I didn't even tell you guys this story. I went out to the vigil one night when it first happened and some lady recognized me and she, she was very kind. And as I'm walking away, she's like, her kids all came up and they started hugging me.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

And they. And the kid looks at me and he's like, can I give you a hug? And I was like, yes. And he goes, you look like you need a hug. And he hugged me. And he goes, I know it's been a hard day for you. I hope it gets better. And then another kid came up, and then another kid and another kid. And I had like five kids hugging me around my legs like a Saturday.

[C]

Night morning special or something.

[B]

This was like, I don't remember. It was like the Friday after it happened.

[A]

There's been a lot of.

[B]

It's just amazing, these little moments like that. Yeah, yeah. But anyways, I mean, we're talking about coming me, but I just want to say all the love that you guys are giving is really amazing.

[C]

It is. It's incredible. I wore, I think, you know, buying multiple of those freedom shirts just so I can wear them like multiple days in a row without it being too gross. Because it is great. Like just the other day I was.

[B]

At a. I went over Charlie Kirk store.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Charliekirkstore.com yeah.

[C]

You know, I just went out to a friend's place in, out in Mesa, just wearing it because I'd worn it at work that day. And just two women were talking outside, middle aged women. And they saw it and they were just like, you know, I love your shirt. And I said thank you. He was my boss, actually. And we had a conversation about it and it was very moving. They were talking about, you know, both of them said, I hadn't seen a lot of Charlie stuff before, but now like I'm watching his Videos constantly. You know, it's so incredible who he was. A lot of new fans and it's kind of so. And you know, they were. They were very horrified at what the reaction had been. So it wasn't just they'd realize what Charlie is. They know, they'd experience that whole range of seeing how good he was and how hateful so many of the people are who are celebrating it and all of that. And these are just ordinary women in Mesa. Had a good conversation with them for a few minutes and I'd love to have more conversations like that. And I think a lot of people are.

[B]

Yeah, no, that's really good. I. Yeah, there's just. So. Thank you, guys. That's the point. And.

[A]

And by the way, I'll shout out again in case anyone didn't hear it. Special guest tomorrow on the Charlie Kirk show. Proper.

[B]

Yeah, we have the one and only Ms. Mrs. Erica Kirk coming on the show tomorrow. So that's pretty special. I mean, you know, Erica is in a crazy headspace. You can only imagine. She's actually. No, most. Most people can't. I can't. And not that there's no way to put yourself in her shoes, but for her to make the time and. Because she knows how special the Charlie Kirk show is and was to Charlie. And so she's going out of her way to come be with us. I just, I'm so honored by it. And it was her idea. She wanted to do it. And I can't even begin to explain to you, as somebody who's been in media and press and all this stuff for a long time now, the amount of incoming that I have received, like begging for an interview with Erica Kirk. And she's, you know, she's saying no to all of it. I mean, magazine covers and exclusives and sit downs with the top talent at all the network and. No, she's gonna come on our show and hang out with us. It's really, really amazing. It's very her. But I digress because guess what? We have reactions from msnbc. We have to play them.

[A]

They're losing their minds over at msnbc. And we all know that Charlie loved to watch that. Yes, and I'm sure he's watching it right now. Do we have clips?

[B]

253.

[A]

253. Yeah.

[B]

Day.

[F]

There were reports that she was also doubtful about this case. While she hasn't mentioned it by name, I'll read exactly what you see here. No one is above the law. Today's indictment reflects DOJ's commitment to holding those who abuse positions of power accountable for misleading the American public. That is how she puts it. Again, the effort on and the attention on misleading that rising, according to the DOJ indictment to what they're going to argue is a criminal level. A false statements charge, which Joyce Vance, you were just explaining requires meeting a certain bar of materiality. We don't have the indictment yet, but the reporting prior was that this was reference to Comey answering a question about the general news and leaks policy at DOJ and basically whether he was fully briefed on Clinton related matters. With our final 30 seconds, your final thoughts.

[G]

Well, look, I think this is a good moment for us to all before we jump to conclusions. Wait to see the indictment.

[A]

He's defending him already. He's like giving him a defense. He doesn't even know what the indictment is.

[G]

Barriers in the criminal justice system that prevent miscarriage of justice. A grand jury has decided that they will issue an indictment here apparently. But there are other issues going forward, including a judge and a jury. Let's let the system work like it's intended to.

[B]

Right.

[F]

We're going to get a hold of the paper. We're going to be following this. But it is an extraordinary news event to have the former FBI director indicted, especially under these sunken shoulders body language. Thanks for watching. Continues on it looks like.

[A]

I mean, not gonna say that but like Ari Melburg. What's the matter? Ari, what's the matter? What's the matter? Something. Something wrong, Ari? Something the matter.

[B]

Just, you know, we gotta let the legal system play out. But there are, you know, he's already defending him though. I know you hear that in the.

[A]

Blake, I know you picked up on that. Where he's like.

[B]

He's like.

[C]

Well, the briefing might not have been. Briefing. Briefing properly.

[A]

That's clearly what it was.

[C]

Might not be briefed on Clinton when he personally made the decision of whether to prosecute or not.

[A]

Like he's the director of the FBI. And by the way, when you like. I don't think any of us in here have done this but you know, for anyone who's done like any deposition, none of us have been briefed before. Charlie used to talk about when he went to testify to the J6 committee.

[B]

Me too.

[A]

Yeah. And Tyler as well. So Tyler, let me ask. Did I actually I forgot that you did. Yeah.

[D]

We were. We were in.

[A]

I love.

[B]

So I love. Charlie was Charlie, wasn't it? Like, so were you born on October 14th.

[A]

Fifth Amendment.

[B]

Fifth Amendment.

[A]

Fifth Amendment. Just go up there and did your lawyers just Let you go in there and wing it. No, no, no. You prep, you go over documents you have.

[C]

Prep was really easy.

[A]

No, I know that, but I mean, all pleaded offense. No, I know, but at the same time, like, you have to do your due diligence.

[D]

No, for sure. And I'm about to go in, I'm about to go in again to have to fight the AG here. And you know, your lawyers are with you throughout the entire thing, both in any interview, if you get subpoenaed, or if you have to go in and, you know, testify to a grand jury or then ultimately testify to a jury or whatever it is. I mean, there's a tremendous amount of prep that goes into all these things.

[A]

Right. And that's why any good lawyer, before they ask you, before you answer a yes or no question like that, they'll, they'll say, hey, you know, can you clarify that question? Can you, you know, are you sure this is what you're asking out? Because you know that if it's, if it's in court, that's perjury and if you're in Congress, that's lying to Congress, you're breaking a federal law. And so, yes, you do prep and you. And of course, he wasn't briefed properly. And Ari's, Ari's not stupid. Right? Ari's not a stupid guy. He knows exactly what he's doing. It's like, oh, it was the briefers. They were the ones who screwed up.

[D]

And by the way, and by the way, these guys have limitless resources for this. This is, this isn't like a guy getting again, like in our situation.

[A]

He was, he was private individual when he, when he testified.

[D]

I get it. But he's surrounded by layers.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

Of attorneys. The best in the world.

[A]

I think he's at a law firm right now.

[D]

I mean, you can, you can, you can make the argument that the best and deepest and most aggressive attorneys are all within the D.C. metro area. They all, that's where they all live and survive. And, and you can bet that the best possible guys were provided to him by, by everyone who hated many friends, the Trump.

[B]

They all took care of each other like that.

[D]

So this is just, this is just a farce. Like it's just a made up thing. It's like, it's not a real thing.

[A]

They're just, they're full of. Melbourne goes. He says, well, he was, he was answering a general statement about the leak policy. It wasn't a general statement about the leak policy. It was specific leaks of a specific Instance, on a specific article. And then Ari Melbourne is already sitting up there. He's, this is what they do every time. The same thing Jimmy Kimmel did the other day. The same thing that you saw leftists do in the wake of the, when, you know, when I reported that it was the anti ice on the bullets and then you read the picture that came out, they just start lying. They just straight up start lying.

[B]

Let's read President Trump's truth on this first real quick.

[C]

Just because it was quick. Jay McGuire donated a dollar and asked have we seen the Fearless Tour at all and how are they treated at the Tennessee.

[B]

Yeah, he got, I mean all they were doing was having, I watched the whole video. We should have him on next week and we will. Tomorrow's show's all packed out already. But maybe Monday, Tuesday. The. Yeah, I mean it was a complete joke. They were having civil debates on an HBCU and a crowd sort of gathers and then chases them off and they're getting hurled insults for their hat. I think they were wearing MAGA hats and they had to be escorted off with police to keep them safe. So their, their name is Fearless Tour and you know, God bless them. I love, I love that people are going back into the, into the lion's den and doing this and, and it's, and I'm, I'm proud of them. And we'll, we'll talk to them. We'll probably have them on, on the show. So truth here from 254. This is President Trump's Truth Social. He says justice in America, all caps, exclamation point. One of the worst human beings this country has ever been exposed to is James Comey, the former corrupt head of the FBI. Today he was indicted by a grand jury on two felony counts for various illegal and unlawful acts. He has been so bad for our country for so long and is now at the beginning of being held responsible for his crimes against our nation. Make America great again. So there you go, Blake. I know you love, you love when, when the politicians chime in on the legal proceedings, you know, it's it.

[C]

I would just caution people that the stuff you do now per blocks statements, it can be very satisfying in the moment, but among other things, I don't think it increases your chances of getting an actual conviction.

[A]

This is, and I'm just going to say this as well, that this is a very direct issue that has been brought up in the Ouija Maggione case right now where there is a motion from the defense team to knock the Death penalty off because of Twitter activity by members of Department of Justice officials, retweets and different things like this. So.

[B]

Well, I mean, I have some sympathy in that instance simply because Luigi Maggione premeditated an assassination against a CEO, the United Healthcare CEO. To bring justice to a cold blooded assassin is, you know, I feel like morally there's a lot of leg to stand on.

[A]

No, I know, but I'm saying that, like, you have to get that past the judge.

[B]

Yes, exactly.

[A]

And a judge can just rule, oh, this violates whatever vague standard and boom, no more death penalty.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Just that it can go away that easily.

[C]

And you know, someone says, you know, someone said in the discussion, they said, yeah, just regarding this. Nothing better than a Trump truth. I got to disagree. There is something better. Convicting James Comey for all.

[A]

Putting James comey away for 20 years.

[C]

That is good. Maximize the odds of that. And if anything else you're doing hurts the odds of that.

[B]

Yeah, let's go.

[A]

Let's go to the President.

[C]

Trump will be.

[A]

Anyone else will be Trump.

[B]

Can we. Let's go play. Let's hate. Watch some more MSNBC losing their ish. 255.

[A]

They're right, Andrew.

[B]

You heard me.

[A]

Select a prosecution piece is augmented or.

[B]

Buffeted by the fact that the President was tweeting out.

[A]

Do it.

[E]

Go after him.

[G]

And maybe if Lindsey Halligan was actually a prosecutor and actually knew some law, she would have said, Mr. President, we're going to have a problem here. Yeah, Kendelinian, who had some of the original reporting on the fact that we were expecting this indictment and on this timeline so that proved accurate. We are now hearing from the Attorney General and from the Director of the FBI. This is what Pam Bondi posted on X. No one is above the law. Today's indictment reflects this Department of Justice.

[A]

No one is holding those who abuse.

[G]

Positions of power accountable for misleading the American people. We will follow the facts in this case. I want you to take that, Ken. Side by side with what FBI Director Kash Patel posted on X today, your FBI took another step in its promise of full accountability. For far too long, previous corrupt leadership and their enablers weaponized federal law enforcement, damaging once proud institutions and severely eroding public trust. I hear that sigh. I feel it too, guys. Every day we continue the fight to earn that trust back. And under my leadership, this FBI will confront the problem head on. Nowhere was this politicization of law enforcement more blatant than during the Russiagate hoax, a disgraceful chapter in history. We continue to investigate and expose everyone, especially those in positions of power, will be held to account, no matter their perch. No one is above the lot. You'll forgive me, Ken, because getting through that propaganda was a little bit difficult. But given that there was reporting earlier that Pam.

[B]

Oh, they're losing.

[A]

You can't listen to this stock. It's just, you know, at least I'll give Abby Phillips over at CNN some props here because at least she'll have, like, Scott Jennings on or someone who disagrees. But what is the point of having a panel on MSNBC where everyone has the exact same opinion? This is exactly why we have our D.E.I. hire Blake here. Because like, like, Blake is contrarian. He's Blackfield Blake. Like, you want that back and forth, like, not just for the political polarization part of it, but it's just better tv, don't you think?

[B]

Well, so there's. By the way, there's mult. I totally agree. I love it when Blake kind of gives me something to think about. By the way, there's, there's, there's. So there's two charges here, right? Blake, he's on two counts.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Obstruction.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

The obstruction would be the lying about the leak.

[C]

I think both are the lie. They just kind of tagged him twice, right? So false statement and then the obstruction because he told a false statement.

[B]

So there's another clip going around that, you know, James Comey told Congress on September 30, 2020, could be one of the lies that was told. Comey said he had never authorized anyone within the FBI to be a, quote, anonymous source about the Trump Russia investigation. So this. And he told that to Senator Ted Cruz. So let's go ahead and play that 257.

[A]

Chairman Grassley asked you point blank, quote, have you ever been an anonymous source in news reports about matters relating to the Trump investigation, of the Clinton investigation? You responded under oath, quote, never. He then asked you, quote, have you ever authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reports about the Trump investigation or the Clinton administration?

[B]

You responded, again under oath.

[A]

No. Now, as you know, Mr. McCabe, who works for you, has publicly and repeatedly.

[B]

Stated that he leaked information to the Wall Street Journal.

[A]

Who's telling the truth?

[E]

I can only speak to my testimony. I stand by what the testimony you summarized that I gave. And I'm not going to characterize Andy's testimony, but mine is the same today.

[B]

So he stood by the fact that he never did. Never authorized anyone within the FBI to be an anonymous source.

[A]

So he was Standing by the previous.

[B]

Yes. So that wasn't the previous testimony that he gave to Chuck Grassley. So he's saying he stands by it at that point.

[C]

So we have another message. American Patriot 3531.

[A]

We love the Patriots.

[C]

Yes, we do. Every American patriot donated 50. God bless Erica, family, and you all. I never met Charlie, but I felt I knew him. I saw him on the Ingram angle when he first started. He's grown so fast and became something bigger than all of us. Yeah, it's completely true.

[A]

Amen.

[C]

He's a great man. And, you know, we've heard that over and over. So many people never met him or only shook hands with him, but they really felt they knew him. They felt close to him and.

[D]

Yeah, and Michael still sucks.

[C]

Michael Steele.

[A]

Michael Steele.

[C]

That guy Michael Steele just feels like.

[D]

I can't believe he. Remember, that guy gets put on tv. It's insane.

[A]

No, this is literally what I was just saying. The MSNBC Republicans, like, that's precisely who they are. It's. It's. You're just like.

[D]

You believe that that was an R and C chair. It's, like, crazy to me.

[A]

Like, that's how bad.

[D]

That's how bad the rnc.

[A]

And by the way, he was someone who was treated horrifically by the left. You remember the Oreos, right? Yeah, that. This is something. He was called an Oreo. Like. Like, black on the outside, one on the inside is what they said. And they pelted him with Oreos. Was that at One of the RNCs or something? Yeah, when he was walking, some protests were pelting him with. With Oreos. And yet now he's hanging out on that side. So I. Yarvin had this thing earlier. I don't know if you saw it, Blake, where he was saying, there. There are not two left. There is only one left. And I. And I really like that there's only one left. And we keep sort of playing this game. We're like, no, there's the good ones. And it's like, where. Where. When you have Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama saying what they say all the time, I just. I. I don't know. Having trouble finding it.

[B]

I don't disagree.

[A]

Having trouble finding it.

[B]

But, you know, I will. I will just accept at this point, a lefty that doesn't believe that violence is justified, which is.

[C]

Hey, wait, we talked about junk.

[A]

How do you like Jenkins? Oh, by the way, Uyghur. Okay.

[B]

Apparently, Rav, like, bleeped me out every time I said, oh, gosh, chank.

[C]

It's really, it's really funny about that. Just because.

[A]

No, he was like saying chank though.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You did one time say.

[B]

No, I did one time. You did say. I was reading the. I was reading.

[A]

You didn't say a no, no word at one point.

[B]

I did say. No, no, I didn't. It did. Didn't even occur to me.

[A]

I was like, I was like, andrew, it's sunk. Sunk. I was like trying to help.

[B]

I'm learning.

[A]

Trying to get you past that one, buddy. And I was like.

[B]

I immediately was like, I'm so sorry.

[C]

How many different ways would it be possible to pronounce that man's name? I. I wonder if it could be like, could you hit like 100?

[B]

It's like janky. Yeah.

[A]

Oh yeah. Is it short for anything?

[C]

I have no idea.

[A]

Could it be like, like, is it like Jankalicious Jankula?

[C]

There's only really one way to find out. We have to demand his birth certificate.

[B]

Count Jankula.

[A]

Count Jankula.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

Yes. Going with that.

[B]

So what, I mean, I think janky.

[A]

Producer Angelo says janky.

[C]

I think we've gotten through the, the. I, I do kind of want to just to cover the, the Cubs thing. Just, I find it so fun.

[A]

I know you want to, but, but let me, let me just add this, this final piece here while we're on, on Comey. It's. You have to restore the scales of justice to balance. You have to do that and you must do it using the iron law of exact reciprocity. It has to be done to the people who wielded government power for ill gotten ends. This is exactly what Comey was doing. It was McCabe. There were so many of them. And gosh, I was just looking, I was running like a Twitter search on Charlie's tweets and he's got the lists over and over, over and over. Charlie was calling for this. Over and over. Charlie said, why were so many of our people indicted for this when James Comey did the exact same thing? And I, I'm sure Charlie knew exactly the dates and times that he did it. And of course, of course Charlie can't play a part in this because of what was done to him. And so when the pressure is being applied in one direction, the pressure of state power like we saw for four years straight, including by the way, to the turning point organization itself, both. Well, just, I'll just say through, through investigation, upon investigation that was opened up and I know there's more that's going to be coming out on the FBI investigation. And if you don't. If you don't respond, if you don't do anything to balance it out, they're just going to do it again. It's like little kids.

[B]

Yeah, No, I think that's really very clear. We've been looking for a balancing of the scales, and you have to have mutually assured destruction in a. In a. In a democracy for both sides to treat the other with respect. Like, if you step out of line, we are not so cowardly as to not hold you accountable. The. Despite what MSNBC is going to say, that it's the end of democracy, which they notably were not saying when our border was open and political opponents of the left were getting indicted. Left and right. Go ahead, Blake.

[C]

You'll like this one, Jack. Rafinez gave five and says in honor of Comey, Taylor Swift will rename her next tour the Indictments era. Thank you, Rafinez.

[B]

All right, let's get to Shaw.

[C]

All right. All right. I just really wanted to hit this.

[B]

No, I wanted to. This is.

[C]

So Matt Shaw is what it is. Yes.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So Matt Shaw is a player on the Cubs. I think he's a rookie, so pictures from. He's, you know, so that means he's a player, like, in the age range of, you know, the. The core demographic that Charlie went for. And he'd met Charlie, he knew Charlie. I think they actually even lived in the same facility place for a while. But I don't know if I've seen that report. I don't know if it's the case, but. So he had met Charlie. He'd known Charlie. He saw him at a game once, and then he wanted. So he attended the memorial. He was invited by Erica directly is what reporting says. And so he went to the memorial. Now, for those of you who don't know baseball, baseball plays 160 games a year. They're playing almost every day. So he had to miss a game to do that. The Cubs are going to the playoffs. They, in fact, have already clinched a playoff spot. They're still fighting for position. So a lot of. I do have to call them. People don't. A lot of people lost their absolute minds about this.

[A]

I thought we were talking about Redditors.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, good point. We need a. We need a.

[B]

There's a video on this.

[C]

Can we have rfk, like, investigate whether Redditors are, like, fully the same?

[B]

Yeah, there's gonna be budget.

[C]

Oh, but yeah, we have a video. Yeah, let's. Let's play the video because this is kind of what sparked it. I don't have the exact number here. 226. This is an announcer reacting to it.

[G]

Are you concerned about backlash?

[A]

Because there is a lot of politics involved with this.

[H]

Yeah, I mean, absolutely. I'm not concerned at all. No. You know, my connection with Charlie was through our faith. That's something that drives me every day. That's the reason why I'm able to do what I do every day. And that's something I'm extremely thankful for. I know without my faith and without the many blessings I've been given in my life that I wouldn't be here, able to talk to you guys, able to help this team eventually go and win championships. So that's something I feel really, really blessed about. So, you know, whatever backlash comes is. Is okay. You know, I feel. Feel strong about my faith and that. That what was meant to be happening.

[C]

My bad. I call. I thought I was getting a different one there, but. No, that's actually a very good one. Really is. It shows his. So the backlash, which I also want to show here is this started with an announcer on. I think he was the Mets announcer, but was calling the game. And he commented on it as Matt was batting the following day. So in a Monday's game. So let's play that as well. 227.

[B]

Shaw had Cubs World in a tizzy this weekend. When he was not here for the Cubs game. With the Reds game, they lost one nothing. And which is lack of presence was felt. It was later revealed that he had been given permission to attend Charlie Kirk's funeral. And I don't want to talk about any of the politics of it, but the thought of leaving your team in the middle of a race for any reason other than a family emergency really strikes me as weird.

[H]

He was super, super supportive of us and obviously someone who's really faithful. So we connected on that front as well. But yeah, I mean, his wife Erica had texted me asking me if I would come to the funeral. And I felt as though it was something that was really important for me to do well.

[B]

And by the way, throw up.258. So I literally just put this picture into the chat from my own phone. I was with Charlie on the field. This is probably a month or five weeks ago. And this is us on the field at Wrigley. And Matt Shaw's right there. Matt lives in Arizona and they run into each other in Phoenix. And so we're at the game and after they won. I think they won 4, 3. That day we went down to the field and two of the Cubs players, one of which was Matt, came and they took a picture and they chatted and it was wonderful and. And it was just a really nice moment. And actually when we posted that picture, it got some controversy as well. But you know, it was fine, whatever. And so I mean I just feel connected personally to this story. And one other thing with just, you know, Matt Shaw did not mention that in that clip. But Charlie was such a huge Cubs fan. It's so like he grew up worshiping the Cubs and that's why I think on many levels he was just so excited to have a relationship with some of the Cubs players. It's a beautiful thing.

[D]

That was literally one of his favorite days that he's had in a long time. Because again also people forget this. Charlie had become such a big personality. Is hard for him to go and do fun things in many ways. We were telling the story about you guys being out and about and, and South Korea and like how. But him being out there again, his love for the Cubs and being at games, especially with Erica and family and.

[B]

When he took a lot of those.

[D]

Videos and he could go to games like he went to spring training and a few games this year and like it's just.

[A]

I just.

[D]

I just know he would talk about like he was so excited to look forward. So forward to those things.

[B]

That announcer is a total jerk.

[A]

What a jerk.

[B]

Like, oh, this just strikes me as really weird. Well, you strike me as a jerk. Yeah.

[C]

Oh, he missed the. He missed the heckin sporting game because a person who was a friend of his was murdered.

[B]

Not just a friend of his, but then like a worldwide icon and, and he got his. The widow.

[C]

Personal friend. My friend was murdered. I would like to go to his memorial. The widow has asked me to attend and they're freaking out. Oh, it's. It's really weird. He'd. He'd miss a freaking playoff.

[B]

That strikes me is really weird.

[D]

Imagine it had a freak show.

[A]

Imagine had it been been fired.

[B]

He should be. We should.

[A]

Why is that guy enough to know that Candidly. Candidly like that guy should get suspended from his job for saying something like that.

[B]

What a cold hearted.

[A]

That's.

[B]

That's jerk. I want to use other words.

[A]

Well, just take the politics out of it. Charlie was murdered, okay? This is a murder. This is the murder of someone that a lot of people knew that a lot of people were. He was beloved by many. I don't know what the word for that is. And it's he was a human being that people actually knew.

[B]

That's a shocking. It took me a second to like realize, but I started sitting here thinking about as you were talking to and I'm like, the heck. Actually, like, who the hell is this guy and what is his problem? Like, who hurt you when you were a little kid that you don't understand? Like, yeah, we should actually blow this up a little bit because it's shocking.

[A]

When you mentioned the Cubs, I didn't realize that's what the audio.

[B]

No, that was the Mets announcer.

[A]

Yeah, but you said Cub story and I was like, I didn't hear anything about a Cub story. And then that's like, that's what it is in the. The headline. And I hadn't heard it.

[D]

Imagine had somebody done that with MLK or jfk, right? Like mlk.

[C]

And when MLK was assassinated or George. They actually delayed all MLB games for two days.

[D]

Oh, interesting.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

So when MLK was assassinated, they delayed all mlb.

[C]

And it was originally.

[A]

So Roberto Clemente was the president, which is understandable.

[C]

And Roberto Clemente. Actually we had to organize some Pittsburgh players to take a day off.

[B]

The name of it.

[C]

And then.

[B]

Sorry, I just got the name of the announcer. Yeah, his name is Gary Cohen.

[D]

Yeah, Gary Cohen.

[B]

Gary Cohen from the New York Mets. What a jerk. Gosh, I want to use different words. I'm trying to be. I'm trying to like, center myself and.

[A]

He'S a crumb creep. He's a crumb bum.

[C]

There's just all this like, crumb, Incredibly, incredibly a nasty stuff online. So I was, I. I posted on. On X earlier some, like, excerpts from the Reddit thread about it where there's all these. So you just have to know. A lot of Redditors are like very creepy soy people. They were celebrating Charlie's death when it happened. I have the screen caps to prove it. And so here it's like, Mr. Ferguson, cultists gonna cult. We have. Let's see what else this has to rank up there with the weirdest missed games, right? Does anyone have a list of interesting absences? Yes, it's very interesting. He wanted to go to the memorial of his friend who was murdered. All for some effing podcaster. LM FAO f the team, I guess.

[A]

Now this, folks, this is what we're up against. We're up against the fried mental model that's even being promoted by hopefully a soon to be unemployed sports announcer. Just a complete douchebag who wants to sit there and say, oh, that's weird. That's weird. Gary. Is that a little weird? Gary?

[B]

Strikes me as weird that you'd want to bury your friend.

[C]

Yeah. Homie. J420. How can someone be teammates with this jerk? Like, what does he think about his Hispanic teammates? Unfathomably stupid person here.

[A]

No, think about it.

[D]

By the way, by the way, the Cubs can't win the division. It's already locked down by the Brewers.

[C]

But they have clinched a playoff spot.

[D]

They've clinched a playoff spot, and they're eight games ahead in the wild card standing.

[A]

So I wouldn't be clear with nothing. The comments Blake. Sir. Blake. Mike is reading were not all said by. By Gary.

[B]

No, no, no.

[C]

Those are meant to be clear. Only the clip we showed was Gary. This is people reacting to it on a website of.

[A]

Supporting it.

[C]

Annoying people. Yeah.

[A]

Supporting it.

[C]

Yeah. And just agreeing like, oh, it's so weird or bad.

[A]

This. This is what we're up against, folks. These are the people who are celebrating Charlie's murder. These are the people sitting up there and saying, oh, it's weird. It's weird to miss a game because your friend was murdered and you're going to a memorial. Someone that you knew in real life, a personal contact of yours was brutally murdered on live television. Blake was standing just a few feet away from this. And we're sitting there acting like it's just, oh, some other news cycle or some other political cycle. And I knew this was going to happen. I knew this was going to happen. It was going to become this litmus test on Charlie and the people who like Charlie and all this stuff. But guys like Gary up there, sitting up there just like guys with Jimmy Kimmel. And I'm going to say it. Joe Rogan, who I called out yesterday because he was being flippant about it, too. He didn't care. You know, I was like, you are.

[B]

Not getting the weight moment. No, you are not. If you are. If you are coming at this with, like, I don't really get it. Well, we're wrong, then.

[A]

Just shut up.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

That's all you have to do if you don't get it.

[B]

Somebody was.

[C]

Shut up.

[B]

Murdered. No, come here.

[A]

Come. Come here.

[B]

This is crazy.

[A]

Come here and go tell that to Erica.

[B]

Yeah, this is. This is actually crazy because what I did, what I'm realizing. Gary. Gary Cohen.

[A]

Gary.

[B]

So this is what I'm realizing, though, is that the entirety of this story is Matt Shaw on defense, when the truth of this story is that this Gary Cohen guy needs to be on defense because he's actually in the wrong. Matt Shaw was in the right. His friend was murdered in a political assassination the likes of which this country has not seen since the 1960s. Yes, he's our friend and brother in this, but they were actual friends that texted all the time. They lived next to each other in Arizona. Charlie's a big Cubs fan. They hung out weeks before on the field in Wrigley and. Good point, Tyler. The game doesn't. Whether they win or lose, just changed.

[D]

Changes nothing for the standings.

[B]

And not only that, but Erica had reached out and invite. Personally invited him and asked him to come.

[D]

It gets better.

[B]

This is a.

[D]

This is from Caitlin Bennett, who once upon a time worked for us. It's a long story. She. She posted. I totally missed all this. Like, I was busy yesterday with everything else going on. New York's Mets broadcaster, Gary Cohen, who missed the game earlier when his dog died, calls it weird that a cosplayer missed the game to attend Charlie's funeral. So apparently Gary Cohen had missed a game when his dog died.

[B]

Verified. It's.

[D]

It's. Yeah, I can put this up.

[B]

Put that, send that in the chat. We'll get it up.

[D]

Is that crazy?

[B]

What art. What. What outlet is that? Can you tell? Or is it crowded?

[A]

But it's not even about, like, why someone lost their job. It's about people making light of what happened to Charlie. And I am going to draw the line over it. And I don't care if I lose bookings or whatever. It's just. It's wrong. What you're doing is wrong. And I don't care if you're Jimmy Kimmel or Joe Rogan or Gary Cohen, whoever. I'm going to call all of you out because it's sick, okay? What happened to Charlie is sick. It's not funny. It's not the brunt of a joke. It's not something to be made light of. And it's certainly not. Not weird that people would be. Think about what that does to everyone here in this building, beyond Charlie's family and the immediacy. But the people in this building, the people of Turning Point. The Turning Point, kids that. It's like saying if something happens to you and people care, well, that's weird.

[B]

Gosh, this is from this year, too. April 21, 2025. I can't believe you missed a game, Gary Cohen. That strikes me as really weird for your dog's death. Oh, I'm sorry. I mean, I know we got a lot of pet lovers out here, and candidly, I wouldn't care except for friend gets murdered, wife calls and asks you to come. It's crazy. And you miss a game. You miss a game because your dog died. You coward. You. You. Oh, my God, you're so out of touch. Which, by the way, worst words are coming to mind, and I'm. I'm burying them because I want to honor.

[D]

Nothing against people mourning their.

[B]

I have nothing against that, of course.

[D]

It's just like, how. How dare he come out against Shaw? It's crazy.

[C]

Well, no.

[A]

Is it? By the way, I know it's. I know. It's like, 9. 23.

[B]

Oh, it's up. Yeah. If you want to call the Mets. And on if you share frustration.

[C]

But while you're at it, you can complain about the Mets melting down.

[A]

If you're listening, let's say the number. Say the number. Yeah, they might lose later or during the week.

[B]

866-239-1284. It's 866-239-1284. You should just call and let them know that you think Gary Cohen is a dirtbag, and that's fine. And tell them that, you know, goodness, like, have some humanity, have some heart. Get in touch with your, like, emotions. Pray, Gary, because something's wrong with you. If you've got a problem with somebody going to their friend's funeral that was just murdered in cold blood, and by the way, that transformed the shape and trajectory of the history of this country.

[A]

Less than six months ago, Gary skipped a game because his dog died less than six months ago.

[B]

Yeah. Anyways, listen, I don't know. Gary Cohen, maybe he's nice and this was a bad moment. Okay. I'm just gonna surmise that. That my instincts tell me that if you are this much of a dirtbag to say this about somebody just off the cuff, that, like, probably there's something. There's something more.

[A]

He could apologize to Eric.

[B]

Yeah, he should apologize to Matt Shaw. Just apologize to Matt Shaw. Leave her out of this. But, like, you know, apologize to Matt. He's a good guy.

[A]

How about an apology, Gary? It's not that hard. Sorry. And not in private, by the way. In public.

[B]

Yeah, we got broadcast.

[A]

Apology.

[B]

Are they gonna make the playoffs? Are the Mets making the playoffs?

[C]

The Mets are in the last playoffs right now, but are kind of at risk of blowing it. Cubs are in for sure and they're just fighting for seating with the last spot.

[B]

Yeah, we have a rumble rant.

[C]

Yeah, let's read a few of these. I think we have three of them to go here. So first of all blue use Blue used to be cool. Gave 20. Thank you for continuing Charlie's legacy. I am a 45 year old Wisconsinite who owes Charlie and TPUSA for helping me get off the sidelines and door.

[B]

Knock and get involved Tyler's people.

[A]

I will never sit idle again.

[C]

God bless you. Blue used to be cool. Blue did used to be cool. And I'm still butt hurt to this day that thanks to the 2000 election we got stuck with blue as the liberal color and red as the conservative. I like blue better.

[B]

What year was that?

[C]

2,000.

[B]

You're 2,000.

[C]

That's kind of what solidified. They used to swap them back and forth and blue is the right one everywhere else. It's the royal color.

[A]

Red is red color.

[C]

I've never liked that. We got stuck with that. But yeah, that's. That's how it is. But thank you and everyone else. One of the best ways you can honor Charlie is to get involved yourself. That's what you would always tell people to do. Don't be a passive consumer. Don't just. Don't just watch live streams like this one. Get out there, do things, talk to people. You know, whip, whip the votes of your family, of your neighborhood, of your friends.

[D]

Which by the way, we have something coming up. So door knocking. Here in Arizona we're gonna have opportunities. We're gonna be talking about them and posting about them, but we have some in Arizona this next month.

[C]

The mission continues. KDP gave 10. I am dedicating a chaplet for Yalls peace and protection. You are all such good men. Take care of yourselves. Did y' all see skuball throw that 90 mile per hour baseball straight into that guy's face? I didn't see that. I don't know if they mean Shaw or someone else. I try to assume the best. I assume that was not intentional.

[B]

That would be very nasty as a baseball player. You know, throwing at people actually can be extraordinarily dangerous. So I just. I actually have a lot of respect for baseball. That thing can do some damage, but, you know, so hopefully everybody's okay. I did not see this.

[C]

DJ Gowitz gave 10. I know you're flooded with chapter requests. How can I request to organize a sanctioned homeschool co op? Turning Point Homeschool co Op Use the TPUSA community to create a standard curriculum. Do we have.

[D]

Yeah, we actually have specialty activism hubs that we do with homeschool. So the homeschool co op. So through TP Turning Point education, they actually work with Home school groups directly. So you can go just search for Turning Point education. They will help you with that. And then we also have chapters specifically for co op. So if that's the question, you just go right to tpusastudents.com and you can start a chapter or a hub for homeschool.

[B]

Great.

[A]

I actually got something in just now that it's not a rumble rant and I can't say it because I don't know if I have permission to say it but. But I'm just going to say it that there is a person who I guess Charlie.

[C]

So not a redditor talked to.

[A]

Well, hold on on that. Talked to at one of the campus events. I'll leave it at that. And this person has said that Charlie was a huge motivation and says that they have decided to re. Enter the church, accept Jesus into their life and will be detransitioning.

[B]

Wow. Whoa.

[A]

And said that because of everything that happened with Charlie, it had a huge impact on their life. And that.

[B]

Yeah, it's awesome.

[A]

But that's an impact that Charlie. I have some more details, but I'm not gonna get.

[C]

That's incredible. That's incredible. We love.

[A]

If they were on camera. I don't want to make it like.

[C]

Exactly, but I think we're closing out here in a moment. But we got one last. From Zuzu's petals. Conservative Christian is the new normal.

[A]

That is a. Anyone know the reference Zeus petals.

[B]

Yeah. From It's a Wonderful Life.

[A]

There you go. It's a wonderful life.

[B]

Oh, because it's when he gets back from when. When he remember he's. He never existed. But then he says I want to exist. And then he exists again. And he looks his pocket. He's got Zuzu's petals at me.

[A]

Petals.

[B]

They're there. Oh, yes.

[A]

Mary, it's me, Joel. Larry. Don't you know me?

[B]

I love that.

[A]

I love that movie.

[B]

I love that movie.

[C]

What a great movie.

[B]

Do you know that was filmed right now. Do you know that was filmed in Los Angeles. Was not filmed in New York.

[C]

That was filmed in Los Angeles.

[B]

Filmed in Los Angeles. The snow and the. And yeah.

[D]

I almost. I almost name. I think we've had Zuzu's petals actually contribute to us before because we talked about this. I almost named my youngest daughter Zuzu. Let's go after. It's wonderful.

[B]

That would have been cool.

[A]

I love how. By the way, I'm just going to say it. Since we haven't really done any thought crimes tonight, we have to do one that when he goes to like the nightmarish upside down world. And he looks up his wife Mary. What is it? The angels, Clarence. And he goes, he goes, he goes, oh, you don't want to see Mary. You don't want to see that, George. Why not? And he goes, he goes. She never married. She works at the library. She's a spinster.

[C]

Being dead. It's not his brother being dead. It's not his uncle being in the madhouse. He's okay with all that.

[B]

This is the perfect place to rap. So.

[A]

But in. In the 1940s, that was a like.

[B]

Oh, I know the value system. All right. It's a good place to wrap, guys. So Jake or Jack, take us home. I don't know why. Just Jake.

[A]

Okay. Andy.

[B]

Jake Tapper. Ar Jack Taper.

[A]

I don't even know where to go with that one. Arthur Colvette. Yeah, folks, what can I say? It is. It is the second thought Crime Thursday that we've done with our fifth member on assignment with God. And he's going to be on that assignment for a long time.

[B]

Until we meet again.

[C]

One last thing.

[A]

Hold it down.

[B]

Just.

[C]

Someone's sneaking. You guys gotta send these a little bit earlier. You'll miss them. Gifted five subscriptions. Ooh. Now we're a real live stream show. People are gifting subscriptions. That's another thing you can do. Thank you very much. And then Benji63. I think I've seen that name before too. He gave 20. I've never had many women to look up to in my life, but Erica has become number one. What a strong woman, full of faith. That every woman should strive to be like. God bless her and God bless her kids. Thank you, Benji, so much. And we all, we all look kind of. We're all taller than Erica, but we all look.

[B]

I actually like these. That the team in the studio is coming up with names. Kylie says and drizzle. I could, I could go with that. And caboose says Admiral Andrew, which I, I'm. I'm gonna fully endorse. Absolutely endorse. No, absolutely not.

[A]

The Admiral.

[B]

Sorry. The naval guy over here is like.

[A]

No, actually, you know, you know. Well, you know what we call you, right?

[B]

I don't want to hear it. Let's rap.

[A]

No, it's good.

[B]

Let's go.

[A]

We have a good one.

[B]

Oh, you do?

[D]

What do you call it?

[A]

AK47 after your age. Oh, yeah, yeah. We always come AKA we all call him AK47.

[B]

Hey, eventually I'm gonna really like that.

[D]

If he's 47. He looks great.

[A]

Real quick on the chats though. I was, I was guesting for Tim Pool a couple of days because he was sick before all this happened. And one of the things I'd love for this to be, you know, if we could carry on the tradition here as well. One of the things that his subscribers or people do in the chat is they, they put in a super chat or a rumble rant from the delivery room when one of them has a baby or like that's incredible.

[B]

If you get engaged.

[A]

Happens like a bunch.

[B]

If you get engaged or have babies, we want to hear from you.

[A]

And I guess I said three days in a row and it happened twice with his audience. That's, that is like in twice in three days which is like.

[C]

That is an incredible tradition.

[A]

So good.

[B]

It's good. We, I like to honor and celebrate the good things in life.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

100% celebrate the life giving things and the things that honor God.

[A]

And I think if anything it's that we've learned over the last couple of way days. I was talking to Dr. Drew today and you know, he said the thing. There's two, there's two big issues, right. First is the new normal. And you really do have to deal with the new normal and that's, that's hard questions and we all have to deal with that. And number two is the grief. And he said you got to lean into grief. You can't deny it, you can't squelch it. You got to accept it and lean into it. And I think maybe in a sense us staying on mission and staying on point is, is a way to do that. And I love the fact that the show is still going because I, I don't know if I'd be able to do it without that, without all you guys and same without everybody being here.

[B]

Yeah, it's been nice to have everybody around the office and around town and it's been a huge, huge key part for me. I know that.

[A]

So yeah, it's not, it's not about speeches or followers or tweets or whatever this. It's about just, just being with your family, with your people.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

Gotta do it. All right folks, on that very non thought crimey note, we are going to, we are going to go and remind you to go out there and commit more thought crime.

[B]

Thought crime is death. Is death is death.