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Jack Posobic
Hey guys, it's Jack. I wanted to let you know that we're starting a new push for subscriptions here on Human Events Daily. So make sure that when you're listening to this podcast, you hit subscribe, you download it, and you share it with five of your friends. Make sure they're all going and downloading as well, because we need to get the signal out as much as possible. Look, we've done so much over the past couple of years since this show started, and we're only going to do so much more. Let's get it. This is what happens when the fourth Turning meets fifth generation warfare. A commentator, international social media sensation, and
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News Reporter
former Navy intelligence veteran.
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Chloe Cole
This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobic.
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Jack Posobic
Christ is king.
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Caller or Guest Commentator
I think the elections are so rigged and we have to do something about it and we're going to do something about it, but we cannot continue to have and frankly, the Senate and the House, they ought to get together and they ought to pass the Save America act so that you have voter id and it's so important you have proof of citizenship. Little thing like proof of citizenship.
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Jack Posobic
Confusion on an Air France flight set to land in Detroit, but diverted to Montreal over fears someone exposed to the Ebola outbreak was on board.
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News Reporter
A Minnesota judge has just sentenced the mastermind behind the Feeding Our Future fraud scheme. And Amy Bach, she just got more than 41 years in prison. The DOJ announcing the indictment of former Cuban President Raul Castro. Those charges including allegations of murder after those pilots carrying humanitarian aid to Cuba were killed. All of this happening as Cubans endure a near total blackout and a collapsing economy amid severe sanctions from the Trump administration. Secretary of State Marco Rubio saying the issues on the island have been created by this regime, prompting a response from the Cuban foreign minister who shifted the blame back to the U.S. the House
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Jack Posobic
Oversight Committee referring the House Ethics Committee to investigate far left Democratic Congresswoman Ilhan Omar. It concerned a controversial change to her financial disclosures that dramatically cut her family's reported wealth.
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Chloe Cole
We are learning more about the professional
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News Reporter
signature collector who agreed to plead guilty to paying homeless people to register to vote.
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Chloe Cole
In Los Angeles, Brenda Lee Brown Armstrong
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News Reporter
admitted she used to pay people on Skid Row 2 or $3 to sign ballot initiative petitions and gave homeless people her address to use so they could register to vote. Turns out there was more to that settlement between President Trump and the irs. The Justice Department is now forever barred from auditing Trump. The addendum, which was quietly added Tuesday, says that the government cannot examine tax returns of the President, his family, his company or related companies. It applies to anything filed before the agreement was reached, which was on Monday.
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Caller or Guest Commentator
Remember What I said, 20 to 25% of the people coming into our country will come in through birthright citizenship. They'll become citizens. Birthright citizenship is a disgrace.
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Jack Posobic
Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily. We're here live real America's voice. Today is May 21, 2026 Anno Domine. I want to talk about a story in the United Kingdom. Elon Musk has been weighing in on this. There is a lawsuit from the family against local police that's going on right now. And there has been a lot of online chatter, but not a lot of real world response. Mainstream media couldn't care less. This is the case of a young student, first year university student, named Henry Novak. And Henry Novak, on December 3, 2025, 23 years old, of Polish descent, he was walking home from a night out when a violent interaction happened with a 23 year old individual named Vikram Singh Digua. And Digua apparently was wearing a ceremonial Sikh knife. That knife that he wore around his neck was used to stab Henry Novak five times. Officers from Hampshire and the Isle of Wight Constabulary arrived at the scene and Digua alleged that Novak had racially abused him and assaulted him. Trusting the suspect's allegation, police then handcuffed Henry Novak who was heavily bleeding after being stabbed five times. They put him on the ground and not only did he bleed out on the street, he died. They only began administering first aid after he collapsed and lost lost consciousness. And this included a punctured lung. Now let's be very clear about this. Let's be very, very clear about this. Novak tried to escape. He tried to escape by getting over a fence. There was no information, there was no evidence whatsoever that he had used racial slurs, racial epithets at all. So where's the international outrage when it's a white student who gets killed like this? Where's the media outrage? Where's the political class putting up their outrage? Anything? Where's the sports teams putting him up on the Jumbotron and holding a moment of silence during the national anthem? Doesn't happen because they don't care about the victims in these cases and they especially don't care when the victim is an innocent white student. Make no mistake, the far left loves when innocent white people die. They love it, they support it and they encourage it. That's what's going on here. That's why you won't hear soon to be former Prime Minister Keir Starmer. Say one bloody word about this daily. Continues.
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Caller or Guest Commentator
Stand in our way, and our golden age has just begun.
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Chloe Cole
This is Human Events with Jack Posoba.
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Jack Posobic
Now it's time for everyone to understand what America first truly means. Welcome to the second American Revolution. All right, Jack. Back live Human Events Daily. Real America's voice. Folks, we got to talk about it. Fluoride. The government has been putting fluoride in your water for more than 80 years. Is this because you asked for it? No. Is it because you voted for it? No. It's because they decided that you needed it. That's that decision I want somebody else making for my family or for me or for anyone I care about. And that's why I filter. Me and Tanya Tay filter every drop of water in our house with COVID pure. More than 209 million Americans are on fluoride water right now. Here's what the science actually shows. In September 2024, a federal judge ruled that adding fluoride to water poses. I'm quoting court directly. An unreasonable risk to neurological health. Not a fringe opinion. A federal court ordered the EPA to act. Then in January 2025, a study published in JAMA Pediatrics, one of the most respected medical journals in the world, confirmed a link between fluoride exposure and children's IQ scores. The more fluoride exposure, the lower the iq. Sure, some states are moving on it. Utah and Florida have banned it, but that takes years. Your kids and your family, they're drinking this water today. You need something that works now. And that's exactly what Cove Pure is. We're talking clear wave reverse osmosis technology certified to remove up to 99.9% of contaminants. Fluoride, PFAS, lead, pharmaceuticals, heavy metals. Anything that isn't water gets filtered out. I love the taste of the water after using it. My kids, they call it super water. We're doing a lot of little league games. It's been super hot here lately, so they're always going up. AJ he's got his little stool. He's going up. Up there to fill up his. His water bottle for all of his little league games with. With the super water from COVID Pure. And look, it's. It's actually really easy to set up. You get a removable picture. That's the game changer. So don't wait for the government to catch up. Go do what we did. Go get yourself a Cove Pure. And if you want to use our link co pure.com/poso you get $250 off. That's covure.com/poso. All right, we got Arn McIntyre on here today. Aren, how are you doing?
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Arn McIntyre
Well, thanks for having me.
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Jack Posobic
So I kind of stumbled on this. This thread that has been going really viral and I wanted to get you on it actually comes from my mom, of all places, right? So my mom comes to me and she says, she says, jack, I don't like what's going on at Valley Forge. I'm like, mom, what are you talking about? What's going on is back, I think March. And I said, what do you mean? And she goes, when America had its 200th, the bicentennial, this was one of the biggest events that's ever happened, was certainly one of the biggest events in the Philadelphia area, and it was all across the country. And in fact, growing up, she would always tell me stories of what the wagon trains would be like, of how many people, thousands upon thousands of people who just showed up at Valley Forge on July 4, 1976. And Gerald Ford comes in and we've got some pictures here. You can see him just walking around in the crowd, which is just. And this, by the way, this is after he suffered multiple assassination attempts. They still just, you know, just let him walk around in the crowd. And she was telling me that she just felt that the 250th has been so muted. That's a picture of my mom and my grandmom and her cousin on horseback there. And she just felt that the 250th is being so muted, so toned down from that event. And I said, you know what? Cuz we're not that country anymore. So I wanted to bring you on and kind of get your take on this. And you know, I threw it up on, on X and it's just been going hyper viral. People saying what? Yeah, it's, it's just, look, it's not an attack on the President or anything that he's, he's clearly doing what he can, but. But it's just not catching fire the way that the 1976 one did.
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Arn McIntyre
Well, there's so many factors in why this is an event that's being less observed this time around. And of course, the first one that you have to think about is look at these pictures, look at the demographics, who's in them, right? These are Americans who have had a long history in the country. Many of these people were in living memory, part of World War II. And, you know, were. Were forged in a fire of patriotism, of Defending their country, of serving their country. These are people who had ancestors who had rich histories that reach well back into the history of the nation. And even the newcomers had had those formative experiences like the war that brought them into kind of the bosom, the bosom of the nation that ultimately helped them to identify as Americans and people who wanted to celebrate what the country was doing. Today we've seen a radical shift. We know there could be 30 to 50 million illegals in the country. And even for the legal immigrants, many of them are new. They're coming from nations that are entirely unconnected to the European or Western tradition. This is simply not their history. And while they might ultimately be glad to be in the United States, maybe some of them, many of them are even grateful for what the United States has meant for to them and what it's done for them. It's just not their story. They don't have that moment where they don't joined the American military and fought, you know, against the communists or the Nazis or any of these things. They ultimately were just people who showed up and made money and probably sent that money back. And again, maybe they're grateful, but that doesn't really make them part of the American fabric. And so you can understand why so many people are ultimately not getting engaged in this, even though they are in the United States. We also have the fact that even the Americans who are part of the United States have been taught that their history is evil, that their oppressors, their colonialists, they're the kind of people who ruin the world. And ultimately their history is shameful. It's one of slavery and oppression and stealing things from the Native Americans or whatever. And so ultimately they don't see a reason to engage in this kind of celebration.
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Jack Posobic
Yeah, I mean, number one, it's, it just the most obvious to your point is that the foreign born population has quadrupled, it has quadrupled since the 1970s. So I believe, you know, depending on which study you look at, it's as many as 1 in 8 or 1 in 7 is either a descendant or first gen or you know, excuse me, an immigrant or first generation descendant of a migrant. And the places that they're coming from, again are places that as you and I have spoken about many times, do not have any direct connection to our history. They're, they're, you know, this isn't Europe. These are, these are places from all around the world. And so the ability to have a direct connection to the American story is diluted. And at the same time you have that. That physical dilution now. We're seeing the rise of, you know, of course, throughout. You start, I would say, starting in the 1990s and then, you know, certainly increasing during the woke era, this narrative that we should hate our country, that America is evil, America is responsible for all the evils in the. Howard Zinn's, you know, sort of history of America really just took over, and it's just really taken over since then. And. And one thing I thought that was interesting, too, was because when I've seen some of the. The images and people are just sending in their stories, just incredible stories, the tall ships in Boston and other things that occurred during the bicentennial and that corporations were all over the place with. With branding and logos. I will. I will admit that Coke has actually been pretty good. They could be better, but they have been putting the branding, I think, on a lot of Coca Cola things that we see at Little League and stuff like that. But one of the. One of the things I thought was so interesting was that, you know, the 70s were not exactly just an idyllic time in America either. The economy was really bad. The President had just resigned. So that's why you see for it there. Obviously, Vietnam was, you know, kind of just ending. I mean, this was an era that had actually seen, you know, a lot of tumult in the United States. But at the same time, Americans still loved their country. They still had that core. And that speaks to something, I think, that totally is lost when you treat America as a propositional nation.
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Arn McIntyre
Exactly. A country is its people. And without that connection, without that connection to the history, to the land, to the tradition, to the heritage, ultimately these things fall away. People have to be rooted in communities. They have to have some kind of history with the nation to ultimately appreciate that again. There are probably many new immigrants who at some level appreciate the United States, but they simply don't have the language. I used to teach public high school, and I used to teach history, and it was just amazing how high the level of ignorance was before people came into the classroom. People, of course, have to learn once they're in the school, but we take for granted how much of this knowledge is passed on by just being in the country. Having your parents tell you about it, reading you bedtime stories, hearing this in the background. A country's tradition, its history becomes its own language. You allude to things in the history so people understand what's going on. It's baked into TV shows, movies, references, books, music. These are the things that weave together and build that cultural zeitgeist, that cultural understanding that we draw from. And even if you haven't directly learned every piece of the history that makes you want to understand it, then when you. It comes time to. To go and learn it, and it ultimately wants you to celebrate it when it comes time to these type of huge landmarks. So I think that that just falling away of the population, having that binding experience, having that history, understanding who they are, and celebrating that identity, and that's a lot of the reason that we're just not seeing the momentum today. Even if people wanted to celebrate the 250th, many of them don't even know what to they would be celebrating in the first place.
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Jack Posobic
Yeah, I mean, I. My mom, I remember was saying that she just. It just blew her mind that Valley Forge is not doing a huge Fourth of July celebration for the 250th, and they're doing a regular celebration, but it's not even really their fault. And she was telling me that there were a number of people that have reached out to her since, you know, because of course, me being me running a website, I said, hey, mom, write it up and we'll, you know, put it on Human Events. And we did. And so people have now been reaching out to her, saying that, you know, hey, we still have the wagon from 50 years ago that. These covered wagon images. By the way, folks, I want everyone to be clear. These came from all 50 states that had volunteers and crowdfunded, I guess you would say volunteer funded, that marched or I guess drove. They actually drove wagon trains to Valley forge from all 50 states in 1976. Not sure they got Hawaii, but, you know, we'll. We'll. We'll figure that out later. But it's just this was incredible grassroots uprising of support. And she was even saying that people are asking about maybe doing their own volunteer thing, just because it doesn't seem like there's any official ones, but a lot of people are starting to kind of look at that, saying, hey, wait a minute. Why is the 250th very, very different from the 200th for people who remember what it was like? Right back. Jack Posobic, Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice.
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Caller or Guest Commentator
You talk about influencers. These are influences, and they're friends of mine. Jack, where's Jack? Jack who's got a great job?
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Jack Posobic
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Caller or Guest Commentator
Yeah.
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Arn McIntyre
It really is such a psyop that the media is trying to push on us that people were never patriotic. They never truly loved America. They were never sincere. And this is also built up something in our society when it comes to authenticity. It's now seen as uncool to sincerely celebrate something, to. To go out there and put together a float, to reenact a battle to. To, you know, salute the flag, sing, sing the songs. You know, all of this is considered hokey. It's considered backwards. It's considered somehow unsophisticated. And no one could really enjoy something like this. No one could legitimately celebrate in this way. You have to be some kind of loser, some kind of naive fool to actually invest or feel this way about a country where you would put on a uniform, celebrate, dress up, all these things. And so I think that shift away from authenticity, that desire to be irony poison, to take everything at remove, everything has to be ironic the entire time. I think that really cuts into the patriotic celebration.
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Jack Posobic
No, I think it's exactly right. And it's, you know, I don't know if it's this. It's this, like, millennial post irony kind of thing that's, you know, just swept the nation and, you know, oh, if you're, if you believe something earnestly, like your cringe or, oh, how dare you actually care. Oh, what you care about something. That's, that's, you know, that's, that gives me the ick, you know, Whereas, you know, it's actually much better to live a life where you authentically enjoy things, really like things where you want to go on board with that. That doesn't mean you have to sit there and endlessly, you know, get into all the debates about, well, you know, technically this thing was like this. And, and by the way, I'm just going to. Just going to throw it out. You can actually see, I think, in the background of, of one of the pictures, there's a Confederate flag there. Right. Because this, this wasn't something that was considered abrasive or, you know, like some. Some horrible thing. It was just considered part of history. It was part of our shared history.
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Arn McIntyre
Yeah, no, I was actually going to bring up exactly that. You can see even at the event where the President is, there are Confederate flags. Imagine something like that happening today. It would be the biggest scandal that we've had in years. But that was part of our history. That was part of a significant chunk of our country and an experience they had gone through. Something that had rinned our nation apart, but then brought it back together, healed over time, and defined who we were. It was part of the story, and we weren't ashamed of it. It didn't mean that we celebrated that one instance. But ultimately, we understood that a country is a tapestry of different events and moments, and all of them are valid, and all of them are moving us towards who we are. And now we're taught to, again, be shamed about history. Everything is offensive. We can't actually embrace our history because it's something that we should always look down on. We should always feel bad about.
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Jack Posobic
The.
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Arn McIntyre
The past is all dead. It's all terrible. The only thing that's good is the new future that the left, that the progressives are forging. That's what the media wants us to think when we see these patriotic displays. But we have to move past this. And I think you're right that ultimately, people who can sincerely engage in things like this, people who are bringing up their children to truly love the country, to truly celebrate something without irony, without the need to somehow show some kind of cynical distance between them and that which they really love, those people are just happier. We all know this. When we see people who are able to engage and celebrate in this way, they are much happier people. And that's what we should be encouraging. We don't need our kids to be the most ironic people in the room. We need them to be people who love the United States and want to see it carry on to the future.
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Jack Posobic
Yeah, this carried over into the 1990s. I remember I was going back with my son, and we were watching the old DuckTales series from the 90s, and there is actually an episode where Launchpad, I guess, takes part in a Civil War reenactment. And of course, this is the Northern Ducks versus the Southern Ducks, but they have Confederate flags all over the episode now. Now, Launchpad, of course, was on the north, but it was not presented as some sort of great evil. It was just a historical thing that happened. And, of course, that episode is completely banned now.
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Arn McIntyre
Again, this is why, you know, we've purged all of this media. You know, no longer are we allowed to watch Gone with the Wind without some kind of disclaimer. Gods and Generals is the most evil movie ever made. We're not allowed to acknowledge that the Southerners were people, that they were Americans, that they had their own understanding of the world, and in many cases, legitimate questions about the Constitution and the way that states should have rights and how we should Live and the centralization of powers. Now ultimately history went the way it did. And so now we celebrate them as part of the tapestry of the United States. And when you have that understanding, when you're willing to look at different people in your country and say they might have had different beliefs, they might have made a wrong term, maybe, maybe they made a turn that in some ways was.
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Jack Posobic
But they were part of. They're part of the mosaic that is America. That's how nations are Forged or McIntyre working people. Follow you brother.
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Arn McIntyre
Oren McIntyre show on the Blaze, YouTube all that stuff.
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Jack Posobic
Give him a follow, folks. Thanks, man.
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Caller or Guest Commentator
Where's Jack? Where's Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you. Great job, Jack. Thank you. What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys and these are the guys who'd be getting Pulitzer shoots.
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Jack Posobic
I don't regret it. I hate them. That was the last straw. I've forgiven them for so many things but screwed me up so much being and you name it. So.
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Arn McIntyre
So
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Jack Posobic
what, what did you use to kill your parents? Then again, is it the same gun that you had when you surrendered to the police? Yeah. All right, Jack. Ksobic back Live Human Events Daily. Real America's Voice. And we talked about this yesterday a little bit with Tyler Boyer but it, it's. And I got into it with on Tim Pool last night where Tim was, he's been out sick. So he graciously allowed me to guest host the program. And one thing that was actually kind of amazing was I didn't even realize that. So our guest last night, Dr. Yosef, his Dr. Yousef with Doring his backyard is actually was caught. And so he was able to tell us the story of being there for the takedown. He actually lived in this area of Washington City, Utah and just told us the story of how they, you know, the police kind of took over his house and were using it to set up snipers and potential assault teams and eventually had, you know, had because Bailey had barricaded himself after shooting his parents. And then you know, they had the negotiators and were able to get him to surrender eventually. And what blew my mind on that beyond just the obvious was that we actually looked up the addresses and that Colin Bailey's parents house was five minutes away from Tyler Robinson's parents house two miles away, right down the road. And two incredibly high profile criminal acts, violent acts committed by people. One a trans, one in relationship with a Trans. It. You know, it's really asking us so many questions. So I wanted to get on Chloe Cole here, herself, of course, an outspoken d. Trans. I could say d. Trans. Advocate. Chloe, could we say that?
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Chloe Cole
Yes, that's pretty accurate.
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Jack Posobic
Yeah, I like that. I like d. Trans. Advocate. You're someone who's, you know, been to. Been to the dark side and back on this issue. And I just got to ask you, you know, because I can't make head or tails of it, what do you make of these two individuals actually apparently growing up very close to each other?
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Chloe Cole
Well, I mean, I don't know the community myself. I haven't been to Washington, Utah. But from what I do know of it and from these two people's backgrounds, they came from very conservative families and very conservative areas of the country. And I feel like even if these crimes aren't necessarily connected and these people didn't know each other, it just goes to show how powerful ideologies like this are on people my age who may have grown up with strong values and in good communities, and yet they still are. They still manage to be. To be led astray.
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Jack Posobic
And that's. And that's exactly right. And yes, by the way, I'm glad you said that. I do want to be clear. I'm not alleging that there was any connection between these events or between these individuals. I mean. I mean, stands to reason they may have, you know, interacted at some point or, you know, you know, shop the same store or something like that. But, you know, I don't have any evidence that they. That they knew each other or work together or anything like that. And I'm not. Not making that claim, although I would. The one piece, though, Chloe, that I would potentially want to look a little bit more is the school system, because if they're district. If they live that close together, then presumably they're districted for the same maybe elementary school, maybe high school. And we have seen in general that that is a place where many of these ideologies have been known to get dug in.
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Chloe Cole
Right. And, I mean, they could have learned about this from anywhere. Being the Internet is the primary source of where even I myself had learned about transgender ideology at such a young age and was led into it. And schools had followed the Internet and these. These ideologies that were initially. That initially came from online. And what this really brings to mind is this phrase death before detransition that you often hear radical transgender activists talk about. And when they say things like that, they're not talking about suicide. They see normal, everyday people believe in biological reality as threats to their ideologies, as threats to their, their own livelihoods because we refuse to participate in it. Bailey killed his own parents because they refused to pay for and financially supports him undergoing a surgical sex change.
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Jack Posobic
So in that case, you do see the hormones, you do see the transition going along. But I guess to your point with the ideology, then, you know, with Tyler Robinson, as far as we know, had not been undergoing any of that. I'm sure there's perhaps more could come out at the trial, but someone who's in that community, someone who's interacting with that community and someone who is acting on. And we've had numerous psychologists here come here on the program and say that it's their belief that Tyler Robinson did this to sort of impress his, his lover or to, to protect his lover, Lance Twiggs, in a sort of strange white knight kind of situation where Charlie Kirk is this figure of hate and a threat, and I'm taking out a threat to my loved one. Does that make sense?
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Chloe Cole
Yes. And that's why you'll often see even at these rallies and in these, in Tyler Robinson's case, even people who don't necessarily identify within this community, they act upon this, upon people like us in such a violent manner because they are conditioned into believing that there is a genocide being waged against an entire population in the country. And if you think that there is a genocide being waged, that there is life saving, health care taken away from an entire community, from even children, what won't you do to avenge those young people?
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Jack Posobic
You know, that's something that I remember hearing over and over. And I want to say in 2024, I was on some debate and somebody brought up the trans genocide. And it was this, this phrase that used to hear over and over. Tell us a little bit about what the. And I don't think they do it quite as much anymore. Maybe they do in their circles. Tell us a little bit about what this trans genocide belief is.
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Chloe Cole
So what this belief really means is that people like us who are, or lawmakers who are advocating for or putting in place laws that stop children from being able to access these experimental treatments that will make them infertile, that will take away healthy parts of their body, is actually revoking life saving and very necessary care for them because they believe that transgender people cannot even exist. They can't bear to live if they're not undergoing these, these sex rejection procedures. And so within the ideology, if a person is basically not allowed to do Whatever they want with their own bodies, then they're, they're tell, they're, they're told that you're, you're at risk of committing suicide, you're at risk of feeling more and more incongruent with their body, and you literally cannot survive without it.
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Jack Posobic
So the idea then is that, I mean, it's, it seems convoluted, right, in terms of a reasoning just because, you know, I mean, I think the obvious person would, you know, if they're referring to something like that, you might think of, oh, I don't know, some kind of military situation, a war situation, Iran, Ukraine, something like that. You're not, it seems to be this logic chain that you have to jump through a whole number of hoops to get there.
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Chloe Cole
Right. It's not really straightforward. And when they say, when they say genocide, they're not referring to people literally taking action to take other, other trans and transgender identified people's lives. They are talking about these individuals taking their own lives, committing suicide. That is not even remotely the same thing. And yes, there is an increased risk of these, of these individuals experiencing suicidal ideation, even attempting or completing suicides, but it's not because of outside pressure. It is because these are people who are vulnerable, who are struggling with things like sexual trauma, familial issues, and are becoming increasingly radicalized by these spaces that they are in and becoming unhealthier rather than actually getting better and having better outcomes post transition. It just goes to show that the experiment is not working and we need to immediately stop this practice of lying to young people. We need to stop mutilating them, we need to stop castrating them, and we need to crack down on these radical groups that are increasingly taking more and more young minds.
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Jack Posobic
I couldn't agree more. And in fact, we're starting to see more. I think I just saw a headline this morning that there was another settlement that someone was able to receive from doctors who. And apologies, I don't have the, the, the headline or the story right in front of me, but there was as a three figure settlement over a lawsuit regarding a double mastectomy.
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Chloe Cole
Yes, and I believe that you're referring to a friend of mine, Camille Kiffel, who has been in a lawsuit for years with her own doctors and.
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Jack Posobic
Oh my gosh. Yeah, Yes, I didn't realize. You know her. Yeah, of course. Yes, that's exactly, that's exactly the one. We're coming up on a quick break. Let's. I want to unpack that a little bit more across the, across the break here and actually talk about your event that faced a similar situation here. Jack Posobic, Human Events Daily, Roman Ark's Voice. It's the Jack Posobic Appreciation Hour. I can say confidently, I believe, I think Josh Shapiro would be the vice presidential nominee if it wasn't for Jack Posobic. And that is, I'm being honest. All right, Jack, back live here, Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice. Folks, if you are a homeowner in America, you need to listen to this. The FBI has been warning about a type of real estate fraud on the rise called title theft. And your equity is the target. Here's how it works. Criminals forge your signature on a single document, use a fake notary stamp and file it with the county. And just like that, on record, they own your home. Using your ownership, they can take out loans against your equity or even sell your property. You won't know about it until foreclosure or collection notices show up in the mail. That's why I've partnered with Home Title Lock. So you can protect your equity. And find out today, if you're already a victim, use promo code poso hometitlelock.com and you'll get a free trial history report and a free trial of their million dollar triple lock protection. That's 24,7 monitoring of your title records, urgent alerts to any changes, and if fraud occurs, their US based restoration team will spend up to $1 million to fix it. Don't be a victim. Protect your Equity today. Hometitle lock.com promo code POSO so, Chloe, you had a situation. Of course you were. You were scheduled to speak at the University of Washington Turning Point event. And it was going to be this huge event. We were certainly looking forward to covering it. And that event had to get postponed because of a horrific violent incident of violence that took place on or near campus which involved a transgender individual being murdered. Now that wasn't your fault. That wasn't Turning Point's fault. It was completely unrelated to anything that was going on. And yet they were trying to blame you and Turning Point for this, weren't they?
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Chloe Cole
Yes. So this was supposed to be like really any other speaking event. It was going to be my, actually my final event of the semester working with Turning Point until. Until the next one. But we had to shut it down because in advance, in advance of the event, we were getting so many different threats. Me personally, the chapter and a lot of people at Turning Point were being threatened by these radical antifa groups in the area. And this was Something that we were already keeping watch on, but we could never have anticipated the horrific murder that happened on campus. But rather than these radical activists calling for an investigation into the murder and to finding the perpetrator, making sure he stays locked up and gets sent to prison, they were calling for violence against speakers like me who speak about this issue in a very critical but compassionate way. Yes, and blaming people like us and our rhetoric for the murder for crimes that we had nothing to do with.
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Jack Posobic
Right. And so I remember looking into this when it happened and of course, as usual, the media and this, of course, Seattle was not putting out what the actual suspect's information was. And we later find that the suspect was in fact a 31 year old black male and he turned himself in a couple of days after his photo and his description were shared by media. And again, to your point, we don't know whatever the specific motive was here. We're waiting to hear more from the trial. But we do have, and this is just according to local news, that in fact this individual Leahy was connected to other attempts to break into or stalk people around the area, that he had sort of been known as a prowler that had been in, in the area for some time. And it's, again, you know, we don't know exactly, but, but it's entirely possible that this was just a random act of violence by a known stalker, known prowler who had tried to get into other buildings and may not have been connected to, you know, this trans identity at all. And yet what these groups do was that they will take these elements of violence that are singular events and try to tie it into this narrative that we were just talking about that there's this trans genocide, that people are killing themselves because they have to, or that there's murders going on. And it's all the fault, the fault of Donald Trump and Charlie Kirk and Jack Posobic and Chloe Cole and Turning Point usa. And it's just not true.
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Chloe Cole
Right. I mean, we don't have an official motive yet for, for why the murder took place, but it really does seem like a case of two tenets of progressive ideology clashing with one another. Of a transgender individual being murdered by somebody who possibly might have been let off the hook far too many times. We have, in states like Washington, we have these policies in place that make it so that repeat criminals or people who obviously should be arrested are able to get, get back out onto the street and continue being in, continue having this erratic behavior, continue committing crimes for whatever reason.
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Jack Posobic
Exactly. And that's the. That's the craziest part of all, is that if. If just to. Just to unpack what you're saying there, if conservative policies were actually followed the way that we support them and the way that we advocate for, then quite possibly that person would have been,
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Chloe Cole
Yes. And it's an incredible shame that, that. That this has happened. That these people cared about this person because he was transgender, not because he was simply a student who was murdered. They only cared about him because of his transgender identity. Otherwise, if he was detransitioned, if the target was somebody who they disagreed with, they would have celebrated his death and they wouldn't continue even thinking. They wouldn't even think about continuing the violence in the face of an already violent and horrific act.
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Jack Posobic
Yeah, exactly. And so what they'll do is they'll. They'll tie that back in and they'll bring it up over and over and over. And this. This kind of reminds me of, you know, when, you know, the. The Stop Asian Hate campaign started to get going that, you know, that people are saying, oh, that sort of is in the wake of 2020. And they were saying, oh, well, there's all these random attacks of violence on Asians. And then we said, hey, we're not against violence, or, excuse me, we're not for violence for anyone. Of course, we're totally anti violent in this movement. As a matter of fact, that's one of the things that we are very consistent on. We are extremely anti murder. And then when people started pulling apart the statistics of these inner cities and who it was that was attacking Asians and Chinese grandfathers in Chinatown and San Francisco and others, the media suddenly didn't like. Didn't like it because it turns out it wasn't roving gangs of. Of, you know, turning point followers doing this. And in fact, I Remember on. On September 10, on the day that Charlie was murdered, that one of the things that was going around in media was Van Jones had said, you know, Charlie Kirk's rhetoric is. Is turning up the. The violence in the streets or something. And it was. This was in the wake of the Arena Zarutska murder on that train in Charlotte, North Carolina. And I had actually tweeted and was, you know, chatting with Charlie that morning about, you know, you know, Van Jones. It's, you know, when people are going around, you know, being worried on the street, they're not looking over their shoulder for Charlie Kirks on the train. Okay? That's not. That's not where the violence is coming from. And it never has been yet the media will push this, and to your point, the trans community will push this as well. And it's a complete lie that they use to try to cover up what's actually going on.
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Chloe Cole
Right? These are severely intellectually dishonest people. And it's so frustrating because it's not like these people who we are, who are saying things like this about us, are stupid by any means. They are perfectly capable, oftentimes very smart. But this progressive ideology is so strong that they do not want to face the truth if it conflicts with that. They would rather assign blame to people who are in political opposition to us, like us, who have nothing to do with these crimes and in fact, are trying to institute these policies and these solutions to these crimes, to these different issues that are happening, than to face what is actually causing it.
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Jack Posobic
Chloe Cole, thank you so much for always coming on here and shining a light on some of the darkest corners of our society. And you do it with such. You do it with such poise. You do it with such aplomb. You talk about some of the most horrific things and you always have a smile on your face. So thank you for that as well. Where can people go to follow you and keep track of everything you have going on?
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Chloe Cole
I have a website@chloecofficial.com and all my socials are linked to there. Thank you so much for having me on again.
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Jack Posobic
All right, make sure to check her out, folks. Chloe Cole, ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay a short.