Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec
Episode: Will Russia Agree To New Ukraine Peace Deal?
Date: November 25, 2025
Episode Overview
In this episode, Jack Posobiec examines the prospects and underlying complexity of a potential peace deal to end the war in Ukraine. He is joined by Mike Benz (Foundation for Freedom Online) and Will Chamberlain (Article 3 Project) to analyze the war's human cost, international negotiations, ongoing corruption stories, and the legal, political, and institutional stakes for Russia, Ukraine, Europe, and the United States. The latter half also addresses a breaking legal development regarding former FBI Director James Comey and the investigation of Arizona Senator Mark Kelly for alleged misconduct.
Key Discussion Points and Insights
1. Human Cost & Urgency for Peace (06:03–08:11)
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Jack opens with a somber reflection on the human realities of war, using Charlie Kirk’s original studio as a metaphor for legacies interrupted by violence.
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He emphasizes the suffering of both Ukrainian and Russian families during the holiday season and forcefully criticizes those who advocate prolonging the war from a distance:
- "For people who want to play games with acts of violence...it's disgusting" (06:58).
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He argues that ending the war should be the foremost priority, and questions why those clamoring for escalation are unwilling to put themselves or their loved ones at risk.
2. Will Russia Accept the Proposed Peace Deal? (08:11–13:19)
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Jack expresses skepticism that Russia will agree to any deal as long as Ukrainian NATO membership remains on the table.
- “I do not think the Russians will go on board with this because they do not want Ukraine in NATO at all. Not even an option, not even a possibility...The enemy always gets a vote.” (08:49)
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The “28-point” and “19-point” plans are mentioned as frameworks under discussion, with Russia demanding complete Ukrainian neutrality.
3. Deep Dive with Mike Benz: Geopolitics, Corruption, and Elite Interests (09:40–13:55; 17:00–25:43)
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Mike Benz uncovers how early Western optimism of Ukrainian military success shifted to recognition of stark Russian battlefield victories and the limits of Western support.
- “Almost all of the exuberance in the early 2022 forays...there was, I think, a hope that Ukraine could...end up with a regime change inside of Moscow...” (09:50)
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He details two competing peace objectives:
- Trump goal: Lasting peace
- “The Blob”/Establishment goal: Temporary peace to rebuild arms, with aims on resource control and future regime change in Russia.
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Benz notes that Ukraine’s government is gripped by multi-billion dollar corruption, with major resignations just weeks prior due to kickback schemes in the energy sector.
- “Ukraine is just completely subsumed in this multi billion dollar corruption scandal where they're finding $100 million...in embezzled cash, golden toilets, the highest levels of the Ukrainian government...” (13:55)
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Jack and Benz discuss how terms of the deal changed—from calls for a full audit of aid to expansive “amnesty” for Ukrainian leadership’s crimes, removing future legal liability in exchange for agreeing to peace.
- “The original Trump proposal...was that there would be a full audit...the language was changed to...all crimes...would be effectively absolved...” (17:45)
- “Amnesty is something you receive for committing a crime.” (22:25, Jack)
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International players—including the U.S., Europe, and institutions like Harvard, via Penny Pritzker—are vying for stakes in Ukraine’s expected $14T wealth in natural resources and future reconstruction contracts.
4. European Security Guarantees and Market Risks (20:00–25:43)
- Macron proposes “European-led security guarantees for Kyiv,” potentially involving U.S. military commitment.
- Mike Benz warns that suggestions to seize Russian assets would destabilize global financial trust in Europe.
- “Unlocking frozen Russian assets...would cause an absolute firestorm in the international markets...make it unlikely that any sane sovereign country would ever invest in Europe again, if not directly under the barrel of a gun.” (13:53)
5. Ukraine’s “Sovereignty”: Media, Funding, and Western Control (23:55–25:43)
- Massive Western funding (USAID) underpins over 90% of Ukrainian media, casting doubt on lack of independence.
- Ukraine’s government is compared to a “subcontractor” for Western aid rather than a sovereign state.
- “Does it actually resemble a real government and a real country's, you know, administration, or does this...they don't seem like a real government at all.” (23:25)
6. Corruption and Reconstruction: Who Benefits? (25:43–27:20)
- The reconstruction phase is seen as a new arena for resource grabs, with major U.S. and European financial backers (e.g., Harvard Endowment) aiming to profit from contracts.
- “Ukraine is being put through shock therapy while...being sold off, nucleus by nucleus, every cell to another Wall street and London trading firm.” (25:43)
7. Immediate Breaking Legal News: Comey and Mark Kelly (02:15–02:43; 38:29–46:43)
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Federal Judge dismisses case against James Comey and Letitia James citing improper appointment of the prosecutor—sparking a discussion between Jack and Will Chamberlain on statutory legalities, Article III courts, and partisan lawfare.
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Chamberlain explains the legal nuances of interim U.S. Attorney appointments and how partisan judges are warping statutory rules to thwart the Trump administration.
- “The entire game of progressive lawyering is Calvin Ball...whatever rule, they can make up any rules...and it always ensures that he wins the game, no matter what.” (37:06)
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Turning to Mark Kelly, Jack and Will discuss his Pentagon investigation for urging military insubordination—contextualized under the Uniform Code of Military Justice:
- “...retired senior military officers...shouldn't say things that undermine the good order and discipline of the army...You're prohibited from doing and should know better.” (40:39)
8. Breaking Update: Trump Announces Progress on Ukraine Peace Plan (46:43–47:57)
- Jack relays President Trump’s announcement of progress on the 28-point peace plan; only a few disagreement points remain. Special envoy Steve Witkoff dispatched to Moscow; Driscoll to meet the Ukrainians.
- “President Trump has just released a truth social...There are only a few remaining points of disagreement...potentially the final stages, of a peace plan.” (46:43)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On war’s grim reality:
“It's people dying in disgusting and disfiguring ways. It's bodies that are blown apart so much that you can't actually put them back together to bring them home. Closed caskets every time.”
—Jack Posobiec (07:20) -
On Russia’s security demands:
“They do not want Ukraine in NATO at all. Not even an option, not even a possibility. No, they want full neutralization, neutral status for Ukraine, and they view it as an existential threat to Russia.”
—Jack Posobiec (08:49) -
On Western interests in Ukraine:
“The whole play here is about Eurasia...about the $75 trillion worth of natural resources inside of Russia. It's about control over the entire Eurasian landscape...”
—Mike Benz (10:51) -
On corruption and immunity for Ukrainian leadership:
“Instead of agreeing to have all the international aid Ukraine has received be audited, instead...the provision was changed to say no audit and...we're not going to be criminally liable anyway.”
—Mike Benz (21:40) -
On partisan lawfare:
“You'd be forgiven for thinking that the entire game of progressive lawyering is Calvin Ball...make up any rules...ensure [they] win the game, no matter what.”
—Will Chamberlain (37:06) -
On insubordination in the military:
“We shouldn't have retired senior military officers who hold the esteem of being retired senior military officers saying things that undermine...good order and discipline...”
—Will Chamberlain (40:39) -
On transparency and university endowments:
“If you're going to qualify for $1 of federal government grants, we need to see every investment that endowment is making.”
—Mike Benz (25:59)
Timestamps for Important Segments
- War’s human cost & why peace matters (Jack’s monologue): 06:03–08:11
- Why Russia may reject the peace deal: 08:11–09:40
- Mike Benz on motives behind Ukrainian war and peace efforts: 09:40–13:19
- How Western “Blob” influences Ukraine negotiations: 13:36–15:01
- Corruption scandals inside Ukrainian government: 17:00–19:13
- Audit vs. Amnesty in the peace deal: 17:45–23:16
- Europe’s push for troop commitments and financial risk: 13:53, 19:39–21:40
- Western funding behind Ukrainian media: 23:55–25:43
- Reconstruction and who profits: 25:43–27:20
- Will Chamberlain on legal battles over prosecutor appointments: 29:25–36:59
- Military law and Mark Kelly case: 38:29–44:26
- Trump’s statement on Ukraine peace plan progress (breaking): 46:43–47:44
Final Thoughts
This episode offers a critical, sometimes caustic look at the dynamic, high-stakes negotiation for peace in Ukraine. It delivers a bracing account of the war’s tragedy, highlights deep-rooted Western interests, exposes governmental and financial corruption, and unpacks the ongoing political/legal skirmishes entwined with the conflict. Regular listeners will appreciate the blend of personal insight, hard policy critique, and pointed legal analysis, while these highlights ensure newcomers get a comprehensive and nuanced understanding.
Key Contributors:
- Jack Posobiec (Host)
- Mike Benz (Foundation for Freedom Online)
- Will Chamberlain (Article 3 Project)
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