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111: Health Through Herbal Medicine, Brain Wellness and Being Prepared | Jane Barlow-Christensen
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Jane Barlow
Thank you for bringing that up, because I love it so much. I don't really talk about it that much on podcasts anymore, but it's such like, our brain is our hungriest organ. Think about if you get deprived of oxygen for very. For a very short amount of time, you can do some brain damage. So the herbs in it are designed to improve oxygen and circulation to your brain. So, yeah, if you're gonna. You're gonna be right along with me. 120. We're gonna be zipping along with our 450th podcast, Jim.
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Jim Mann
That's right. We put that on the calendar.
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You're listening to the I Am Healing Strong podcast, a part of the Healing Strong organization, the number one network of holistic cancer support groups in the world. Each week, we bring you stories of hope, real stories that will encourage you as you navigate your way on your own journey to health. Now here's your host, stage four cancer thriver Jim Mann.
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Jim Mann
Jane Barlow. It's so good to talk to you again. One of my favorite guests.
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Jane Barlow
Thank you, Jim. You're one of my favorite podcasters.
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Jim Mann
That's what I was fishing for. Thank you.
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Jane Barlow
Right on cue, baby.
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Jim Mann
Yeah. Now, if someone's not familiar with you, we do have you on episode 29, so pause this right now and go listen to episode 29 first. So you know all about Jane and all her background, how she took over her dad's business. I mean, it's not like a hostile takeover, but you took it. But going with it and keeping it going and expanding it and helping people realize that there's medicine in our backyard, right?
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Jane Barlow
Yes. You are so correct. And you're right. It was not a hostile takeover. Unfortunately, my dad passed on, and I got to take over his beautiful legacy. But, yeah, there's plant medicine in your backyard. That's pretty brilliant.
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Jim Mann
I'm trying to remember, did any other. You have, like, 107 siblings working. Thirteen of them. But are any of those also working with you in the business? I forget.
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Jane Barlow
No. I mean, I'm constantly surprised. Well, I don't even know now because my dad's been gone for almost 27 years, and I restarted his company four years after he passed. And I have, as you said, a big 107 siblings. Actually, there's 14 of us. Five. Five boys and nine girls. And I have a couple of brothers who worked pretty closely with my dad, but all of us grew up this way, and all of us had had a chance to do things with my dad that were one on one. He really Believed he was such a good parent, a good dad. He would take us individually on business trips with him and we used to get to go up into the mountains with him. A lot of times it was all of us, but there were times he spent one on one time with us. So I. I have these moments when I think, wow, you know, I never dreamed that it would be me. You know, I had a career in Fitness for 20 years. I used to own my own gym and I did personal training and I still taught exercise classes until Covid hit. And then it kind of. The gym I was working at, it didn't survive. So, yeah, I carry on my dad's work. He was a brilliant botanist. And every single day I am grateful. I am humbled. I. To the chagrin of my boys, who are Both in their 40s now, I tell them I'm never going to retire because I love what I do so much and, and it's not like it's really their chagrin, but, you know, I keep control of my business. I'm very particular about where the herbs are sourced and how they're made, and I do all the formulating. So, yeah, that was kind of a long answer to your startup there, but there you go.
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Jim Mann
Yeah. And of course you won't have to retire because you'll live to be like 120 since you're so healthy.
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Jane Barlow
Well, I got stuff to do. I got people to help, I got people to inspire. And I think if you take really good care of this vessel, this temple we've been given, we can't experience what this beautiful life has to offer us if we're in ill health. And I know that this is such a beautiful mission with the healing strong, you know that their mission that I'm always honored to be a part of it. So.
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Jim Mann
Yes, yes. And I, I was talking to you earlier how I take the brain glow, which is why I'm so mentally sharp. And I actually take that because my mom, she, she had dementia for like the last six or seven years of her life. Fortunately, she was very pleasant with it. You know, I know some people get grouchy and mean, but she was very pleasant. But, you know, she would rather have been sharp, I'm sure. So I'm trying to protect myself against something like that.
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Jane Barlow
Well, I think that's the thing. You know, we always think, you know, taking care of our body is super important than it is, but a part of our body includes our brain. And I think there's a lot of things, factors that play into that besides what you eat. And this is where the beauty of mother nature and herbal medicine comes in, is, you know, the oldest living tree species in the world that we are aware of is the ginkgo biloba tree. And it's got these beautiful leaves that have powerful properties that are really good for your brain. And it is. That is one of the ingredients in the brain globe. But you know, we've been so conditioned with the last 100, 150 years of so called modern medicine and it has its place. You don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater, but herbal medicine is powerful. So yeah, I love that you're taking that. I told you before we were recording. I'm like, you brought that up. First thing, I'm like, yes, this is something I don't ever skip because we're both in our 60s and to me I want to be 120 and I want to still recognize my family. I want to be sharp. I want to, I mean, I know people. My uncle just turned 90 about three weeks ago and he is as sharp as attack.
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Jim Mann
So yes, and I know you love to talk about the lomatium is how you say that. And yes, I have that also. And this is the time of year that it's very good to have handy, correct?
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Jane Barlow
Yeah, yeah. So I think that it's almost our duty or our responsibility at this point to really, really learn about herbs that would be good in our own personal home apothecary or herbal arsenal. And lomatium is one of them because it's such a powerful antimicrobial. You know, like there's people who are used to things like echinacea, elderberry, lemon balm. You know, these are really common herbs that are good for cold and flu season. And I am familiar with them. I have all of them. I love all of them. I consider lomation kind of like a heavy hitter. It's something that, you know, I wouldn't want to be without. And there's a learning curve to it because it causes a one time rash in some people. But it's not anything to be afraid of, but it's something to be aware of. And here's the thing, you need to be brave. You know, when you first start using herbal medicine, I, what I find is people don't, they don't really trust it. You know, they're like, well, what if I take this and it doesn't do what it's supposed to do? Well, you need. Herbal medicine is powerful. Most drugs have they, they are derived from A base of. Of herbs and plants like white willow bark is aspirin. But you can't patent mother Nature, so you have to create something that's a chemical or something unnatural. So, yeah, yeah.
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Jim Mann
And then. And with the natural stuff, it doesn't like, happen overnight. It's something that has to build up in your body. Right. As opposed to the medicines you get over the counter. It's comes with side effects or potential side effects, I should say that. And normally it happens quicker. But it's not natural stuff. Natural stuff kind of changes. I don't say who you are, but how your body reacts to things. Am I saying that correctly?
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Jane Barlow
Well, okay. So yes and no. So, okay, good. The reason that people think that over the counter meds work quicker, it's because they cover the symptoms.
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Jim Mann
Right.
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Jane Barlow
And what you're going after is what's causing you to be sick or to have this problem. And it's not that herbal medicine works slower. I've actually seen herbal medicine work extremely fast. You know, I raised both my boys on natural medicine. My grandkids now are using it. It's just part of. They just go reach more stuff themselves. But sometimes if you're dealing with, say, a chronic issue, like when you have some of these different cancers or some of these different issues, like heart problems or whatever, like you have chronic issues, then, yeah, you want to give your body a chance to absorb the, you know, absorb the plant medicine and let it do its job. Because even though I've seen people heal really quickly and we say, oh, it's spontaneous healing, it's a miracle, well, our body knows how to heal when it gets the right tools, it's actually quite simple. And miracles happen every single day. So I think that when you talk about over the count or something working quicker, it does, but what you're doing is you're just usually suppressing a symptom.
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Jim Mann
Right. Yeah. I was going down a trail there that I wasn't sure how to put it to words, but I was partially right. Mostly because of the brain glow before Brainglow. I was not right at all.
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Jane Barlow
No, I don't. You know what? I thank you for bringing that up because I love it so much. I don't really talk about it that much on podcasts anymore, but it's such like our brain is our hungriest organ. Think about, if you get deprived of oxygen for a very short amount of time, you can do some brain damage. So the herbs in it are designed to improve oxygen and circulation to your brain. So, yeah, you're going to be right along with me. 120. We're going to be zipping along with our 450th podcast. Jim.
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Jim Mann
That's right. Let me put that on the calendar. Yeah. And so it doesn't look like we're. This is just like an advertisement for you guys. I do want to bring up something that I recently started taking because I always see it on Instagram. You know, I'm like a teenager. You know, I'm on Instagram all the time.
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Jane Barlow
Yeah.
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Jim Mann
But there's this thing where it's a concoction of honey, like a cup of honey, and then you add a teaspoon of ginger and turmeric. And what's a black pepper? Cayenne pepper and cinnamon. And so I've been taking that for, like, a week, and it's pretty nice. I mean, I can breathe through my nose, like.
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Jane Barlow
Yeah.
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Jim Mann
And this time of year, it's getting a little chilly here. Not too bad. Not chilly enough. But, yeah, everyone else around me is getting all staffed up, and I'm. I'm as healthy as I can be.
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Jane Barlow
Oh, my gosh. That's a power punch. So is the main base of that, the honey?
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Jim Mann
Yes.
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Jane Barlow
So then you mix in the ginger, the turmeric, the cayenne, the black pepper. Okay. That is. I have not seen that out on Instagram, but none of. I've seen other recipes that have similar.
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Jim Mann
Yeah.
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Jane Barlow
That you are doing something really, really powerful there. In fact, the herbs that are there. Cayenne pepper is also one of my very favorite herbs. It's really amazing for heart health. It's good for your vascular system. It's good for your digestion, it's good for your metabolism. It's. And it will. It will help open up your airways. If you think about it, like, of course it's got that heat, so it's going to raise your body temperature a little bit. Right. It's got a lot of really powerful benefits. In fact, I think every person should have cayenne pepper as part of their daily because it's so good for your heart. But it's also good for emergency uses in the cases of, like, maybe heart issues, like if you have a heart attack, you know, or heart. I mean, that's a whole nother thing we can go into. But ginger, super good for digestion also really, really good for inflammation. It's really good for, you know, keeping your whole digestive process moving and going. And think about. And think about the airways that it opens up as well. Because when you take Some gin. You eat some ginger, especially fresh ginger root. I don't know how you do, you do powdered ginger.
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Jim Mann
I do the, the organic powder.
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Jane Barlow
So here's what you should try. If you. The grocery store that we have close to my house has fresh ginger root and fresh turmeric root. And you can take, you know, take it. And I have this little, I call it an inflammation shot. And I do fresh ginger, fresh turmeric. I peel it, I chop it up, I put it in with some fresh squeezed lemon juice and fresh squeezed grapefruit juice and fresh squeezed orange juice. So I get the fruits and I juice them. I put the turmeric, and this is fresh turmeric root, fresh ginger root. And then I juice all the fruit and then I chop these up, I put them all in a blender and I blend it up and then I filter the bulk of the ginger and the turmeric root. So that, and it's just this, it just makes you pucker. And I do like an ounce. An ounce, a bay. And I'll also put my cayenne pepper tincture in there. So I'm adding the cayenne pepper as well. And you're just, you're waking up your digestion. Think about metabolism. I mean, a lot of people have problems with their metabolism, which means your, your body's not efficient at burning fuel, burning the food you eat. And a lot of that can lead to, lead to weight problems. But yeah, think about what you just said, too. As far as it's keeping you. Well, then you've got the honey, which has a lot of antibacterial antimicrobial properties as well. Yeah. That's a good blend you got there, Jim. Yeah.
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Jim Mann
Thank you. I figured it must be good because they weren't selling it. It wasn't a sponsored thing. I thought, why they're not trying to sell me anything.
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Jane Barlow
You can make it. You can make it at your own house. Yeah.
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Jim Mann
Oh, yeah. Well, I'm a little proud of myself right now.
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Jane Barlow
You should be.
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Jim Mann
And, and of course, I have all kinds of questions. Basically, I have questions about myself and hopefully other people can relate to what I go through. But I remember when I, when I got first diagnosed with cancer and I used to have heartburn, like all the time. As soon as I cut sugar out, it stopped. I didn't have any more heartburn. I thought, well, that might have been it. But lately I've been getting heartburn a lot and I'm not sure what that's about. I know you, you need more Acid in, in your gut. And so like I would do the, the vinegar, the apple cider vinegar and you know, I could put that kind of stuff down because, you know, the caliber of a man I am. But it's still it. Like if I lay down at night, I'll be getting it or just walking around during the day. I'm not sure what that's about. What can I do to kind of help that?
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Jane Barlow
You know, what I would do? So one of the precursors to heartburn, believe it or not, which causes a lot of problems, is stress. So even though you think, well, maybe I don't have stress, my life is good and easy and I'm great, you know, because we think as we especially the ages that we are, we think, well, we've got a lot of life figured out. We figured, we realize we don't need to get worked up about things that we used to get worked up about. But I think, you know, we were also talking about the impending election coming up. That's going to be, you know, that can, that can cause stress to people even if they think they've got a grip on it. So first of all, what I would do is take a look at anything that might be causing you stress, even a little bit of low grade stress, because we become so used to it that we don't, we just think that that's just normal and we don't even chalk anything up as dress. Now what I would also add is I would really look at some digestive enzymes which I believe would really, really help with heartburn. The last thing you want to do from my opinion is go get things like Tums or things that.
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Jim Mann
Yeah.
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Jane Barlow
Because then you're just, again, you're covering up something and you're giving yourself a temporary fix, but you're also not giving your body the ability to produce its own juices and stuff. So you might even want to do your, your little honey ginger turmeric concoction thing maybe twice a day instead of once a day.
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Jim Mann
Yeah.
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Jane Barlow
And do it on an empty stomach and let it, let it sit in your stomach maybe with some digestive enzymes. I love papaya enzymes. They're, they're, you can get them chewable, they're really yummy. But I also have some other enzymes that I, that I get and I. If you don't eat something with it, with its own enzymes, which comes in living food, then your body doesn't have the enzymes to break down the food. And you, you also might be having some issues with your, with your liver and your gallbladder. So you might want to consider doing something like dandelion root. You can get dandelion root tea, which.
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Jim Mann
Yeah, I do that every day.
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Jane Barlow
That's awesome. You might want to do double your tea bags.
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Jim Mann
Okay.
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Jane Barlow
Just, you know, do a double tea bag because that's going to really help your liver. But then you might want to get something, a supplement that's specific for liver and gallbladder. Yeah. I mean, I don't, again, don't want to just make this with what I have, but I have a. I have a liver love that's capsule. That's important. That's it in capsule. Because I love dandelion tea too. But when you have herbs that go through the digestive process, then it actually can activate your liver and gallbladder differently than when they just go in liquid and they don't have to break down.
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Jim Mann
Right?
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Jane Barlow
Yeah. So that's what I would do. I get. I would get some good enzymes and add some things that support and love on your liver and gallbladder.
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Jim Mann
Yeah. Okay. Because I hadn't had it for so long, the heartburn, I thought, why is that coming back? But there is. Once you said the stress. There is a little stress factor coming in because ever since that Covid stuff, my wife's business kind of, you know, dropped and it's slowly building back up, but then it needs to build up a little quicker. So I'm going to help her on the business end of things. So hopefully it'll turn around. No stress. It'll be great.
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Jane Barlow
Yeah. I mean, so maybe add some bits of meditation in if you're not already, you know, disconnect from your technology for as much as you can during the day and get outside and walk. And you probably already do those kind of things.
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Jim Mann
Yeah.
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Jane Barlow
You know, I have a five mile loop. I do from my house around. Down in my neighborhood. There's a river, there's a parkway with a river, and I have this five mile loop. I. I walk every single day. And it's a. It's a beautiful time for me to. It's a time commitment. It takes me between an hour and 30 minutes, an hour and 40 minutes. And there are some days I'm like, I don't know if I can fit this in. Does get up earlier or I do it right after I'm done working. So I think anyone listening to this, if you can find ways to get out into nature, even if it's walking around your neighborhood and don't take your technology, you know, that's the biggest challenge for people, unless you're leaving kids at home and you need to be reach for an emergency. But don't even listen to podcasts. You know, don't listen to music, get. Well, music is different. But yeah, that's a good. That's a, that's a suggestion for. Yeah, but listen to this podcast.
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Jim Mann
Oh, yeah, yeah. It goes without saying now in this area here, we had a hurricane. You might have heard about it and came through here.
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Jane Barlow
Yeah.
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Jim Mann
In fact, we were about to leave to go to. Down to Daytona beach to celebrate my daughter, my youngest daughter's 21st birthday. So we had a condo on the beach there. And, and this hurricane was supposed to go a little bit to the west of us, so it'd be a little rain and, and wind wouldn't be that big of a deal. And I was going to go down the east coast, so. But then when I got up at 3 in the morning, getting ready to leave at 4, I look on my app and the eye was just coming right over us. So the. I thought, man, it sounds a little windier than, than it should be. And I look, my trees are blown one way and then all of a sudden the eye came. You know, everything was calm and then they're blowing the opposite direction. So we, we did make it down there. Took us a lot longer. Had to go around a lot of big trees, and we had to go four hours before we can find a gas station that had power restrooms you can use. So it was. Florida was great. Usually you don't run to Florida to get out of hurricanes, but in this case, it worked out great. And it was a week before the other hurricane came back to where we were at in Florida. We were dodging hurricanes for a couple of weeks, basically. But when we came back, so many places around us, our neighborhood never lost power. We lost Internet, but, you know, that's not that big of a deal. But power. There are so many people that went weeks and weeks without power. And of course, Asheville, which is just north of us, about an hour 15 minutes. Obviously that was devastated and it still is. What. When you go through something like that and you don't have electricity and whatnot, what. What would you suggest? What are good herbs or what should we have on hand to make sure we try to keep our health? Or what would you say? Other than having gardens? But yeah, do that all of a sudden as a hurricane's coming, if you don't already have one.
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Jane Barlow
Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's such a great question. I've been, I've actually been asked this question. Um, and it doesn't surprise me the last few years because I think people are realizing the preparedness right. It really, really important for whatever might come, whatever situation you find yourself in. As far as you know. Before I touch on the herbal aspect, what I really love is having access to sprouting seeds because if you. And then use them and have them going so that you can, so you're familiar with them, don't just have a bunch in your food storage, but you don't know how to start sprouting.
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Jim Mann
Right.
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Jane Barlow
Because if in a dire emergency you could, you could actually live on sprouts for a while because they're living foods. They're full of dense, dense nutrition. There's protein and vitamins and minerals and all kinds of goods and good things in different sprouts. That's what first thing I would say if as far as the food source now as it is important to have some, some herbal medicine. And this is where me and my siblings, you know, my siblings actually feel really grateful that I have continued my dad's work because I kind of. Besides the stuff that we have in our warehouse at my home, I have a bunch of herbs curing in different tinctures and that's what I use for my family and all my siblings and all of their kids.
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Jim Mann
Right.
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Jane Barlow
So something for infections. So lomatium is really good for that. Something that's you know cayenne pepper in tincture form is really, really good in case there's an emergency with a heart, heart issue. Things for inflammation and pain and like turmeric is really good. Something like cat's claw is really good and something, you know, it doesn't have to be a great big huge group of herbs. You can even keep it to like under 10. But something like feverfew in and these I would also just in tincture form. And the reason is, is they go right to the bloodstream. They're very fast acting and the shelf life on them like all of our tinctures have a 10 year shelf life. So and it actually will last longer than that. But there might be some evaporation even through the rubber dropper over really long periods of time. But if you have you know, eight to ten tinctures then you don't ever have to worry about them going bad. But the reason you want fever few is for fevers and headaches and things like that. And then you would want to learn how to make a poultice so that you could actually do Some wound healing. Like if you needed to, you know, you could take a tincture and that was good for like say lomation. You could take some lomation tincture and put it into like a skin wound. It would sting a little bit at first, but that way you could actually keep it from getting infected. And then, you know. So I would say something that you, if you can't get somewhere to, like to a hospital or whatever and you're in an emergency situation to help yourself or help others. I actually have what's called an emergency essential kit. And it's got, it's got a little group of things that are all tinctures. One is a skin salve that is actually in a petroleum jelly base. And the only reason we do that is it has a long shelf life. But sometimes you might need a wound cover that has a waterproof base. Because there's a lot of people who are really into natural things. I'm one of those people. But sometimes like a really pure petroleum jelly is with herbs and herbs in it is really, really good for healing a wound. So I think those are just some things to kind of think about. Think about what, what your family is, is what's their health like currently. And then maybe curate your herbal apothecary accordingly. Because some families might need. They might have little kids who might need something that maybe an elderly person might not, and. And vice versa. And maybe someone has a prescription of something. Well, you know, this is a good time to think about, well, what can I do to responsibly get off my prescriptions? Maybe with the help of my doctor.
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Jim Mann
Right.
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Jane Barlow
So what if you couldn't get to the pharmacy? You know what I mean? It puts a lot of people in a really kind of a tricky situation. But hopefully that answered your question.
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Jim Mann
Yeah, perfectly. Of course, I had to write down a lot of stuff because I, you know, even with my brain glow, I sometimes forget some things. I do have the golden salve. Is that what it's called? I got this at last year at the Healing Strong convention that you spoke at.
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Jane Barlow
Yeah, that's a natural one, which is good. It's got. The base is coconut oil, shea butter, beeswax. There's some vitamin E, which acts as a preservative. Yeah, but that, that's a natural base. It doesn't have any. It doesn't have a super long shelf life. A couple of years. Oh, I better go get hurt is start using it. Like even if you use it as a lip balm.
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Jim Mann
Okay.
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Jane Barlow
Really nice. If you get chapped Skin or. It's super lovely.
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Jim Mann
Oh. I thought I had to have an injury and I was, like, upset I wasn't getting hurt, so.
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Jane Barlow
Nope. Chaplets, my friend.
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Jim Mann
Okay.
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Jane Barlow
Lip, palm. Just like a little bit of. Just kind of. Yeah.
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Jim Mann
All right. I was excited because I thought, man, if it doesn't have only the last couple years, I already got a year on it. I was going to, you know, try to go play rugby or something.
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Jane Barlow
It. It'll last longer than a couple years, but that's. We put a best buy. Best buy of two years.
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Jim Mann
Yes. And then one more thing. It's. That's about me, of course.
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Jane Barlow
This is your podcast, Jim, with.
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Jim Mann
That's right. Okay. Well. And I don't know if this is a side effect still from the immunotherapy I went through, which, you know, it saved my life, so I'm not going to complain too much. Some of the side effects could be really bad. I've heard some of the side effects are death, and that's kind of a bad side effect, but I haven't had that one. But my. The joints in my. In my hips, all of a sudden, it might be my mattress. I don't know. It's like all of a sudden, you know, when I get up out of a chair, I feel like an old person. I feel like I'm 67 or something. But I know 67 is not old. What am I saying?
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Jane Barlow
No. Heck, no.
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Jim Mann
But is. Is there some kind of herbs or anything that kind of helps with joint pain? Because I don't think it's like, I don't need hip replacements or anything, because once I get going, I'm fine, but I don't know, it just makes me feel old. I don't like that feeling.
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Jane Barlow
Yeah, I. The very first thing I would do, you're already doing the turmeric, which is awesome. But are you familiar with an herb called cat's claw? Yes, only because I would be doing daily cat's claw.
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Jim Mann
Okay.
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Jane Barlow
And tincture form, because it goes. It. It's the absorbability right to the bloodstream. Cat's claw, we do a tincture we call una de gado, which is the same thing. So it's a. It's from Peru. It's the inner bark of the. Of the cat's claw tree. And it is. It's not only good for inflammation and pain. So if there's any kind of, you know, inflammation in your hips or, you know, I don't know how much you do stretching or if you're. If you're active. Do you, do you walk every day or.
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Jim Mann
Yes.
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Jane Barlow
Okay. Keep. Definitely keep that up because once, once you stop moving, like, movement is extremely important for your physical body. And I think a lot of people, when they have some pain, they stop moving because it's not comfortable. But I would also. And I don't carry this anymore, but I would also look into some cbd, and not with thc, but just a really pure cbd.
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Jim Mann
Okay.
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Jane Barlow
Really good for inflammation and pain. And we have, inside of us, they discovered it in the 1980s. We actually have an endocannabinoid system. So, like, we have a nervous system, we have a digestive system. Like, our body has receptors that recognize the properties of cannabis. And most people have never, they've never activated that system. You know, I'm a person who's, you know, I would never smoked a cigarette. I've never, I've never done, you know, I've never done marijuana as a joint or recreation. I've never done that.
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Jim Mann
Right.
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Jane Barlow
But a couple years ago, I had, I, A long time ago, I had a really bad water ski accident. So it, over the years, it got worse and worse and worse. My one leg, I had a bad injury and two years ago, and I had to end up getting a full knee replacement, which was interesting for someone like me who doesn't go to the doctor, I'm super active. I'm super. I mean, I used to own a gym and I used to, you know, so. And, and. But we have these physical bodies and sometimes we get hurt. But the surgeon. I ended up getting opinions from different orthopedic surgeons. And I finally landed on the third one. In fact, you would probably recognize this name, Eric Haydn. Do you recognize that name?
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Jim Mann
Yeah.
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Jane Barlow
So he was a speed skater at the Lake Placid Winter Olympics, and I think it was 1980. Well, he went on to become. He won all the gold medals, right? He was like, very decorated. And he went on to become an orthopedic surgeon. He practices here in the Salt Lake Valley, actually in, up in Park City. And he's the one who did my knee surgery, which is really cool because I remember those Olympics very well. But he was the third one I talked to because I wanted to. The aftercare, which is. Is really, you know, I've never had surgery before, and this is a major surgery. I wanted to take care of myself with herbs. And so I laid, I laid it out to the first surgeon. They're like, no, no, no, you have to do this, this and this. And the second one, the same and so I went to see Dr. Haydn and I said, this is, this is what I want to do to take care of myself. I don't want to be on prescription pain meds. I don't want to do the anti inflammatory drugs. I don't want to do. I don't want to do these antibiotics. You know, these are, these are not this. And he goes, okay, well what would you do? Because it's like you have people who say, well, I want to do something natural, but they don't really have any idea.
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Jim Mann
Right.
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Jane Barlow
Or maybe they have a little bit of an idea and they're hoping the doctor will tell them what. So I basically laid it out. It was very simple. I'm going to do this for inflammation and pain and this and this. I'm going to do this in place. Like I did lemation in place of an antibiotic and then I'm going to do this in place of whatever else. And. And he was like, oh, okay, you do know what you're talking about. And that's how I, I went through it. So as I kind of taken us back, I did do CBD with THC to. For the pain that I had when I was recovering from my knee replacement. And. But you can take, you can use, I would suggest for you, CBD without that, because you're just, you're just trying to wait. You know, unless you have experience with it and you've turned on your endocannabinoid system and your receptors are going to recognize it, that should be something very, very easy for you to get. Because now CBD is, is legal everywhere, as it should be. And it's something that should be easy to really, you know, really easy to get.
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Jim Mann
Yeah. Okay. That sounds good. I'm like you, I've never smoked anything.
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Jane Barlow
Yeah.
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Jim Mann
And I'm such a, I'm such a pure little fella.
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Jane Barlow
Yeah, you are. We like our lungs. It's like I've never understood people when they sit and smoke.
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Jim Mann
Yeah.
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Jane Barlow
I just, I don't, I don't judge anybody because I think it's fine, but I'm just like, how is that? Why would I want to like wrap. It's like wrapping your lips around an exhaust pipe. Why was she like. That was my visual as a teenager. I'm like, why would you do that?
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Jim Mann
Yeah. And I don't know of anybody who smokes that down the road wish they ever. Glad they still are. I mean, most people are like, why did I start this? Because.
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Jane Barlow
Right, right.
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Jim Mann
Yeah, whatever. Well, man, we're all. We're way. We're way past our time.
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Jane Barlow
Oh, okay. Oh, I, I think that was brilliant conversation.
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Jim Mann
Yeah. I'm on time and a half now. Just kidding. And of course, to get a hold of you. It's the same thing. Go, go to. Was it barlowerbal.com all the information there. I still, I have your, like a catalog of everything you've got. It reminds me of the Sears catalog growing up where I picked out Christmas presents. It's got a lot of stuff in there.
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Jane Barlow
Yeah, it's. I mean, over the decades, there's been a lot of herbal wisdom that, you know, that was really kind of started by my dad, but he, he was in the era before podcasting, before, before websites. You know, he. He never, he never did that. But we have this. It's like a 64 page. It's a booklet, a catalog that kind of tells you a little bit of our history, but it kind of tells you all about the products and what they do and. Yeah, and you can actually go to our website and just download a PDF if you. Or we'll mail you a hard copy if you want to reach out. Super easy.
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Jim Mann
Okay. All right. Is there anything new that you've come up with since the last time I talked to you that you would like to talk about or mention?
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Jane Barlow
Yeah. So are you familiar, you're familiar with SEAC or Easy Act?
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Jim Mann
I knew it. With the T. Yeah.
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Jane Barlow
So this is a very famous formula, especially for people that probably listen to this who've been dealing with cancer or helping someone who has. This is a very famous recipe that was put out over a hundred years ago by a Canadian nurse named Renee Casey or Rene Case. And it was. It's brewed into a tea. You can get it. That's probably the most common way to get it. But in the late 1960s, my dad worked with her and he added two additional herbs to the traditional four that are in Essiac. And he made it into a very powerful tincture. So besides the four herbs, he added bloodroot and watercress. So we, for years, for probably 40 years, we've been. 45 years, we've been making this essay act tincture. Well, at the end of last year, I had this idea because we talked to so many people with different types of cancer and different things that I'm like, why don't I take those six herbs that are in our tincture, infuse them into oils and put them into skin products? So, so, so that's what I did. So at the first of this Year I brought out, it's Asia Skin Serum, and then Asia Skin Sad. And it's now been. You know, we're recording this at the very end of October, and it's. So these have been out now for almost a year. And the feedback that we've gotten, it just gives me chills talking about it, because to me, Mother Nature is so beautiful and so perfect. I feel like. I feel kind of like this vessel of inspiration. And I'm grateful that I get to act on it and that I get to bring things out that help. That help people. So that's something that's new. That is just amazing. So skin. If you've had a lot of sun, it's worse on your head or your shoulders, your back, your chest, or these are just really beautiful products to.
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Jim Mann
Maybe a little melanoma on the head is what I had. If you call that a skin issue.
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Jane Barlow
I see our skin issue. You have any skin issues?
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Jim Mann
Okay. Yeah, I think I remember seeing that in an email. I get your emails.
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Jane Barlow
Oh, cool. Yeah, that. That came out at the beginning of the year, so.
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Jim Mann
Okay. Yeah, there's always things. Every time I read it, I got to check that out. Like, so many things I got to check out.
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Jane Barlow
Yeah. And a lot of it's education. You know, everyone's. Every Thursday, I put out an herbal wisdom video where I just really teach about individual herbs, you know?
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Jim Mann
Yeah.
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Jane Barlow
Things that are common, like damelions and, you know, like, everything's. Everyone should really start. Start putting into their thought process and. Or have someone in your family who's interested, because I know. I know some people aren't interested in this kind of stuff.
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Jim Mann
Yeah.
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Jane Barlow
Every family should have one person that you've kind of pushed toward that direction.
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Jim Mann
That's right. The rest can just eat Twinkies, right?
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Jane Barlow
No, no, no, no, no, Jim.
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Jim Mann
Okay. Not promoting it.
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Jane Barlow
You'll be like Wally. You remember that. That. That movie?
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Jim Mann
Yeah.
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Jane Barlow
The Twinkies, like, survived into the future, like, thousands of years. I know you were joking, but.
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Jim Mann
Yeah, I used to like them, but, you know, they're not healthy.
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Jane Barlow
I ate my share of Twinkies and Ding Dongs, too.
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Jim Mann
Yeah.
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Jane Barlow
Yeah.
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Jim Mann
Oh, well. But now we're healthy, so we're not going to do that.
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Jane Barlow
That's right.
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Jim Mann
Well, Jane, it was a pleasure, as usual, to talk to you, and I'm sitting here, carry my brain glow back into the kitchen. I already had it.
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Jane Barlow
You're awesome, Jim.
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Jim Mann
Well, hopefully I would like to get you actually to speak at one of my eyes. You know, I'm still A group leader with Healing Strong. And we're at that. I think I've told you on the other podcast, we have our own cancer park or cancer survivors park, I should say. It's not a part full of cancer, but yeah. Get you to. To talk one time.
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Jane Barlow
Let's do it. Let's do it. I'm gonna. I'm meeting with the group in Salt Lake next month. I've met twice in person with them and I'm. It's Colette. Colette Mosier.
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Jim Mann
Yeah.
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Jane Barlow
Yeah. So she reached out again. She's like, since you're local, let's. Can you come and speak in person again, son, next month? We're. But I'd be happy to. You know, this is how we. You guys are all about sharing and, and, and, you know, giving people little tips on how they can make massive improvements. And if I could just say one last thing. If we need to know, people need to know that wellness is simple. We over complicate everything. And I think if we bring it back to simplicity, which can start with the foods that we eat, and I know you guys preach all that all the time, but vibrant health is not complicated. We. We are made so perfectly, and if we give our body the right tools, not just physically, but spiritually and emotionally, our body heals quickly. And. And we need to remember that. So.
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Jim Mann
Yes, good point. Yeah, I was going to say that.
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Jane Barlow
I knew you were. I just wanted to beat you to it.
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Jim Mann
Well, you're younger than me, so you did. No big deal.
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Jane Barlow
I guess I've been taking praying a little longer than you, I guess.
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Jim Mann
All right, Jane, well, thank you so much for doing this.
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Jane Barlow
Thanks, Jim. It's always a pleasure to chat with you and stay brilliant, my friend.
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Jim Mann
I'll give it a shot.
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