Podcast Summary
Podcast: I Don't Have Enough FAITH to Be an ATHEIST
Host: Dr. Frank Turek
Guest: Dr. Corey Miller (President of Ratio Christi)
Episode Title: Miseducation That Leads to Violence: How to Counter It
Release Date: October 10, 2025
Main Theme and Purpose
This episode examines the transformation of American universities from foundational centers of Christian thought to ideological hubs dominated by postmodern cultural Marxism. The discussion focuses on how this shift has led to increasing intolerance, suppression of diverse viewpoints, and, tragically, even violence on campuses. Dr. Corey Miller, drawing from his personal experiences and his book, "The Progressive Miseducation of America," explores the roots of this trend and practical ways individuals and communities—particularly Christians—can respond.
Key Discussion Points and Insights
1. From Christian Foundations to Marxist Dominance
- Historical Perspective: Most U.S. universities were founded by Christians but have become increasingly shaped by Marxist and postmodern ideologies.
- Personal Anecdotes: Dr. Miller describes firsthand academic persecution and legal battles over free speech and religious discrimination on campuses, dating as far back as his early teaching roles in 2005.
- [02:58] Dr. Miller recounts his experience needing legal representation at Salt Lake Community College for being unwelcome due to his speech.
- Radicalization and Violence: The episode’s context is a recent tragedy: a university speaker (Charlie Kirk) was assassinated. Both guests emphasize how campus environments move from inclusion and tolerance rhetoric to the suppression and even violence against dissenters.
2. The New Ideological Revolution: Postmodern Cultural Marxism
- The Shift: The “second revolution” after scientific naturalism is postmodern cultural Marxism, which organizes society into groups of oppressors and oppressed rather than valuing true diversity of thought.
- Critique of “Inclusion, Tolerance, Diversity”:
- [09:30] Dr. Turek: “As soon as you have a diverse view, they’re not going to include you, they’re not going to tolerate you, and some tragically will try and murder you.”
- On "DIE" (Diversity, Inclusivity, Equity):
- [14:26] Miller explains the ideological implementation—dividing into identity groups, excluding "oppressor" voices, and seeking "equity" by reparations and enforced outcomes.
3. Consequences: Suppression of Free Speech and Rise of Cancel Culture
- Campus Hostility Toward Viewpoint Diversity:
- [06:03] Dr. Miller describes being labeled a "logical fascist" by activist groups and facing cancellations by both atheist and Christian student groups unwilling to risk association with controversial viewpoint diversity.
- Cancel Culture and Illiberalism:
- [10:55] Miller: "These guys are not liberal, they are illiberal... They want total control of the idea centers because ideas have consequences and bad ones, as we can see, make victims."
- Moral Confusion of Marxism/Postmodernism:
- [24:40] Dr. Turek questions how academics can accept self-defeating relativism and moral subjectivism while enforcing strict moralistic standards.
4. Social and Cultural Impacts
- Wealth Disparity and Family Breakdown:
- [19:40] Dr. Miller references Thomas Sowell, arguing the dissolution of the nuclear family (particularly fatherlessness) is the key factor in poverty, not systemic racism.
- [21:10] Dr. Turek expands: family structure predicts social outcomes far more reliably than external “equity” measures.
5. Why the Contradictions? Philosophical Underpinnings
- Modernism vs. Postmodernism:
- [24:55] Miller unpacks how scientific naturalism (modernism) gave way to chaotic relativism (postmodernism) fused with Marxist activism.
- [25:31] "Scientism... is a philosophy of science. And that idea that you can only know through the five senses is itself not known through any of the five senses. So it's self-defeating."
- Postmodern Methods as Tools for Marxist Goals:
- [25:59] The relativism serves mainly to destabilize traditional and Christian cultural authority; the “core” is still an absolutist Marxist drive to control.
6. The Solution: Reclaiming Christian Thought and Institutions
- The Need for a “Third Revolution”:
- [32:16] Miller urges the Christian community to recapture the university and to demonstrate that Christianity is not merely true, but good and reasonable.
- Advice for Parents and Churches:
- [32:16] Equip youth in apologetics, critical thinking, and Christian worldview engagement—moving beyond superficial church experiences.
- [38:46] Miller shares statistics: Half of students support speech codes; a third support violence to stop “hate speech”; two-thirds define “hate speech” simply as what is “hurtful” to someone’s feelings.
- [40:08] Turek and Miller discuss how this ethos leads to ever-increasing censorship and fragility.
7. Truth, Love, and Responding to Cultural Challenges
- How Do We Respond to Emotional Blackmail on Campus?
- [42:59] Turek: “If you don't agree with me, I'm going to commit suicide.” Miller argues society must distinguish genuine care (telling hard truths) from toxic affirmation.
- Apologetics Resources and Practical Steps:
- Miller discusses accessible apologetics resources (booklets, courses) geared towards churches and parents, written by credentialed experts with lived experience.
- [47:21] Resources and book samples available at Ratio Christi websites (see notes).
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- [03:10] Dr. Corey Miller: “Politics is downstream from culture. Culture's downstream from education. And at the apex of education is the university. As goes the university, so goes the culture, and as goes the US university, so goes the world.”
- [09:30] Dr. Frank Turek: “Do you see the self-defeating nature of this inclusion, tolerance, and diversity nonsense?”
- [10:55] Dr. Corey Miller: “Voltaire once made the statement, I may disagree with what you say, but I would defend to the death your right to say it. Stalin said something more akin to, our ideas are more powerful than weapons. We don't allow our enemies to have weapons, so why should we let them have ideas? This is the source of cancel culture.”
- [14:26] Miller's breakdown of “DIE” (Diversity, Inclusivity, Equity), and how it maps onto Marxist identity categories.
- [24:40] Turek: “How do they teach without their heads exploding over this? Have they been taught logic?”
- [25:31] Miller: “The idea that you can only know through the five senses is itself not known through any of the five senses. So it's self-defeating.”
- [31:03] Miller: “Most of our people don't get that we have thrown out the mind and focused too much in our churches on skinny jeans and fog machines.”
- [32:16] Miller: “It's the university, stupid. Even if you're not called to go into the university, everybody must prepare for the poisonous ideology that's coming out of the university. Because you can't go in your closets anymore—they're coming into your closets after you.”
- [39:14] Miller: “48% of students support campus speech codes... 81% say that words are a form of violence... 33% say physical violence is justified to prevent hate speech... 66% define hate speech as anything a student believes to be considered hurtful.”
- [44:49] Miller: “Love means to will the good, not to emote the good, for the other.”
Timestamps for Major Segments
- [00:00–02:58] Opening; setting up the problem of radicalization and violence on campus
- [02:58–06:44] Dr. Miller’s background and initial experiences with campus hostility
- [06:44–09:30] Event cancellations, both atheist and Christian groups going “woke”
- [09:30–10:55] Discussion of the self-defeating nature of “inclusion, tolerance, diversity”
- [10:55–14:26] Defining “postmodern cultural Marxism”; ideological revolution
- [14:26–18:05] DIE (diversity, inclusivity, equity) breakdown and consequences
- [19:40–23:10] Poverty, the importance of family, and apologetics as a social issue
- [23:10–24:40] The illogic of postmodern academic philosophy
- [24:40–31:53] Historical development of Marxism and infiltration in US academia
- [31:53–35:45] Strategies for reclaiming universities; advice for parents and Christians
- [38:46–42:00] Current statistics on campus censorship and violence justification
- [42:00–47:19] Responding to emotional blackmail and mental health on campus
- [47:19–END] Practical resources, next steps, and closing remarks
Resources Mentioned
- Ratio Christi: Student apologetics ministry; resources and booklets (RatioChristi.org)
- Book: "The Progressive Miseducation of America" by Dr. Corey Miller
- Website for free content and book preview: Ratio.link/pma
- Upcoming speaking events: Various universities, including Ohio State and Princeton
Tone and Language
Throughout, the tone is urgent, sober, and direct: the conversation repeatedly stresses the high stakes—youth radicalization, loss of free discourse, and even violence. The speakers are intellectually rigorous but accessible, interspersing personal stories, social science, philosophy, and apologetic advice. Dr. Turek frequently deploys rhetorical asides, humor (“skinny jeans and fog machines”), and plainspoken challenges to both secular and Christian listeners.
Summary prepared for those who have not listened:
This episode serves as a wake-up call regarding ideological trends in academia, the dangers of cancel culture and radical activism, and the importance for parents, pastors, and communities to proactively equip young Christians for both intellectual and cultural battle. The dialogue is packed with insight, practical recommendations, and calls to both intellectual revival and institutional recapture.
