Daniel and Jack discuss who Charlie Kirk really was, and what he really said.

Features Megyn Kelly's reaction to the breaking news, and clips from Kirk's shows, including his very last podcast.

Content Warnings

Episode Notes:

New York Times Coverage of the Death of Charlie Kirk. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/09/10/us/charlie-kirk-shot-utah

Wall Street Journal, "Ammunition in Kirk Shooting Engraved With Transgender, Antifascist Ideology: Sources" https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/charlie-kirk-shot/card/ammunition-in-kirk-shooting-engraved-with-transgender-antifascist-ideology-sources-pdymd1sXXMSlVRhpvR4b

Ezra Klein Opinion, at The New York Times, "Charlie Kirk Was Practicing Politics the Right Way: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/11/opinion/charlie-kirk-assassination-fear-politics.html?unlocked_article_code=1.lE8.c8fl.bhF6iMJ6NLxJ&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

"You can dislike much of what Kirk believed and the following statement is still true: Kirk was practicing politics in exactly the right way. He was showing up to campuses and talking with anyone who would talk to him. He was one of the era’s most effective practitioners of persuasion. When the left thought its hold on the hearts and minds of college students was nearly absolute, Kirk showed up again and again to break it. Slowly, then all at once, he did. College-age voters shifted sharply right in the 2024 election.

That was not all Kirk’s doing, but he was central in laying the groundwork for it. I did not know Kirk and I am not the right person to eulogize him. But I envied what he built. A taste for disagreement is a virtue in a democracy. Liberalism could use more of his moxie and fearlessness. In the inaugural episode of his podcast, Gov. Gavin Newsom of California hosted Kirk, admitting that his son was a huge fan. What a testament to Kirk’s project."

Robert Draper, New York Times, How Charlie Kirk Became the Youth Whisperer of the American Right: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/10/magazine/charlie-kirk-american-right.html

"But perhaps most important is that Kirk’s dominant voice, via his podcast and his ubiquity on social media, has earned him credibility among conservatives as a die-hard Trump devotee. He has become a close friend of the president’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., with whom Kirk traveled to Greenland on Jan. 7 — wearing a “Charlie”-embroidered flight jacket for the occasion — to publicize Trump’s proclaimed intent to acquire the Arctic territory. And Kirk was an early champion of JD Vance as Trump was deciding whether the senator would be his running mate."

Megyn Kelly, YouTube, Charlie Kirk Dead at 31 -- Assassination on Utah College Campus During Turning Point Event: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goia3bx9aZ8

The Charlie Kirk Show, "What Does 'Phillies Karen' Say About American Men" https://thecharliekirkshow.com/podcasts/the-charlie-kirk-show/what-does-phillies-karen-say-about-american-men

Tricia McLaughlin at dhs.gov: https://www.dhs.gov/person/tricia-mclaughlin

USA Today Story on "Phillies Karen" https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/health-wellness/2025/09/10/phillies-karen-outrage-explained/86070492007/

https://idontspeakgerman.libsyn.com/133-the-mamdani-reaction

https://idontspeakgerman.libsyn.com/102-rittenhouse-anarcho-tyranny-and-blood-libel

https://idontspeakgerman.libsyn.com/episode-36-the-groyper-war

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/09/pardoned-insurrectionists-are-using-charlie-kirks-death-to-call-for-civil-war/

https://drwilliamhorne.substack.com/p/why-we-pretend?r=1hkrua&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/sep/17/turning-point-usa-professor-watchlist

https://x.com/queenie4rmnola/status/1965960315587416268

https://www.the-end.news/after-kirk-right-wingers-double-down-on-eliminating-opponents/

https://www.404media.co/charlie-kirk-was-not-practicing-politics-the-right-way/

https://meidasnews.com/news/charlie-kirk-wants-coca-cola-sponsored-televised-executions-of-trumps-political-opponents

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