Amy Landecker Disobeys Bridger

Summary

Podcast Summary: I Said No Gifts! — Amy Landecker Disobeys Bridger

Host: Bridger Winegar
Guest: Amy Landecker
Release Date: March 19, 2026
Network: Exactly Right and iHeartPodcasts
Episode #: Approx. #290

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Episode Overview

This episode features actress Amy Landecker, who joins Bridger Winegar for a spirited and often hilarious conversation on everything from left-handed struggles to car fires, familial oddities, and the philosophy of “just let them.” True to the show’s conceit, Amy breaks the host’s only rule and brings not one, but two gifts, leading to a discussion about the meaning behind gift-giving, regifting, and the dubious utility of giant bars of soap. Their chat moves seamlessly from uproarious storytelling to sincere reflections on boundaries, family, grief, and the dangers of AI.

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Key Discussion Points

1. A Chaotic Start: Car Fires and Dirty Glasses

• [04:50] Amy and Bridger begin with some playful banter about cleaning glasses, with Amy admitting to being OCD about smudges.
  • “You should have been my mother.” (Amy Landecker — 05:18)
• Amy recounts a harrowing story about her Chevy Volt catching fire in the driveway, nearly burning down her house if not for a timely dog pee break.
  • “If I had not taken the dog out back…our house would have burned down with our pets inside. It could have been, like, really bad.” (Amy — 09:04)
  • The fire department’s efficient, attractive firemen get several shoutouts.
• The pair riff on the attractiveness and apparent recruitment practices of firefighters, imagining a “Firefighter Dating App.”
  • “It’s like the military going into high schools to recruit people.” (Bridger — 11:39)

2. The Realities of Being Left-Handed

• [14:24] Amy shares experiences growing up left-handed, including struggles with scissors and societal perceptions:
  • “Scissors are a real pain in the ass. That’s my big swing curse word.” (Amy — 14:37)
  • Discussion of forced right-handedness in the past and left-handed “coolness.”
• Bridger and Amy bond over left-handed family members, adaptability, and the secret codes among lefties.

3. The Wild World of Acting: Dangerous Stunts & Production Gaffes

• Amy tells behind-the-scenes tales, like being asked to drive stick shift (in England, on the wrong side) and a shocking, post-Rust experience being asked to ride a horse and brandish an antique rifle simultaneously, without proper safety measures.
• [20:36] “I was like, the old lady who’s like, no, good for you. I don’t care. I don’t wanna die today.” (Amy)
• Memorable aside about “nuns with guns” and the chaos of underprepared productions.

4. Gift Time: Breaking the Only Rule

• [29:40] Amy brings two gifts (with cute wrapping paper):
  1. A massive bar of “Santa’s Pipe Smoke” Duke Cannon soap—regifted, with commentary on the etiquette and grossness of bar soap.
     • “You could use this as a weapon.” (Bridger — 30:47)
  2. The book The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins.
     • Amy inscribes it: “Bridger, you need to just let them bring gifts.”
• They discuss regifting, Christmas extravagance, and “decorative soap” culture. Bridger notes most of his podcast gifts end up in storage—with a few cherished exceptions.

5. Family Histories & Cultural Contrasts

• Amy opens up about her diverse family background:
  • Grandfather: a German Jewish refugee, saved by the University of Michigan.
  • Grandmother’s side: Indiana farmers, with a great-grandfather in the KKK marching band (“…but just because it was the only band in town”).
• The family fuses Hanukkah and Christmas, with Christmas being a lavish, over-the-top affair.

6. The “Let Them” Philosophy & Its Power

• Amy shares how The Let Them Theory (and “Know Who You Are” from a childbirth class) became valuable tools for managing boundaries and anxiety—especially as a child of an alcoholic.
  • “For the stuff that you can’t control and you’re just over-managing…let them.” (Amy — 47:43)
• Discussing how such advice can be misused or misunderstood, they contemplate its limitations and power for chronic people-pleasers.

7. In Memoriam: When Pet Memorials Go Wrong

• [55:26] Amy shares a darkly hilarious story about a “3D felt rendering” of her departed dog, which came out looking like “taxidermy” — “We literally hide it on a bookshelf upstairs…pull it out as a gag.” (Amy — 57:10)
• Brief discussion about grieving pets, “rock” memorials, and the intentions versus execution of sentimental gifts.

8. The Game: Gift or a Curse

• [58:31] Amy plays the recurring game:
  1. Walking at the Same Pace as a Stranger: Amy (curse); Bridger (gift—"a new friend!")
  2. Bare Feet on the Dashboard: Both agree—gift.
  3. Google Search AI Summary: Both—curse.
• “Have you stopped using Amazon? No. It’s horrible…I know. Me too…We are all truly trapped.” (Bridger — 67:00)

9. Listener Question: Hating the Sister-in-law’s Boyfriend

• [72:29] A listener asks for advice about a toxic family member. Amy’s instant dealbreaker: “He hates dogs.” Both advise minimal engagement and invoke “let them.”
  • “Light and polite—those are some Al Anon keywords.” (Amy — 75:09)

10. Amy’s Project Plug: Her Film ‘For Worse’

• [58:44] Amy promotes her indie rom-com For Worse, written, directed by, and starring herself. Info at fourworstmovie.com.
  • “I wrote myself a lead part in a movie…because no one else is going to give it to me.” (Amy — 60:16)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On firemen: “Fire department goes to Abercrombie…all the firemen are just like, stunning.” (Bridger — 11:27)
• Philosophy primer: “People have only taken the first half [of ‘Let Them’]. But I am one of those people where when someone’s upset, I get extremely uncomfortable.” (Amy — 44:05)
• On AI and tech: “AI is going to take all of our jobs away…No. And I know. I have really progressive friends who are like, it’s coming, and it’s a great tool.” (Amy — 64:31)
• Letting go: “For the stuff that you can’t control…and you’re just overmanaging…let them.” (Amy — 47:41)
• On pet memorials: “It looked like you killed your dog and mounted it…We literally hide it on a bookshelf upstairs where no one can see it.” (Amy — 57:01)
• On boundaries: “Light and polite. This guy will be gone…and hardly ever.” (Amy — 75:09)
• On being trapped by convenience: “Once you get that convenience [remote control], you’re like, what are you talking about?” (Bridger — 68:32)

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Important Timestamps

• [04:50] — Clean glasses and OCD quirks
• [06:53] — Amy’s Chevy Volt fire story
• [14:24] — Left-handed struggles
• [17:34] — Driving stick shift in England, and production hazards
• [29:45] — Gift unwrapping: soap and "Let Them"
• [33:16] — Decorative soaps and Christmas discussion
• [35:31] — Amy’s blended family story; KKK marching band
• [44:00] — “Let Them” philosophy & applications
• [55:26] — Nightmare pet memorial gift
• [58:31] — Gift or a Curse game
• [58:44] — Amy plugs her film For Worse
• [72:29] — Listener question: Difficult family dynamics
• [76:41] — Closing thanks and episode end

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Tone and Language

The episode is full of comedic energy and affectionate roasting, with Amy and Bridger trading dry, quick-witted remarks, and personal stories. The sincere moments (family history, grief, boundaries) are spoken with vulnerability, but always lightened with humor or a self-deprecating aside.

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Summary Takeaways

• Amy Landecker is delightful, candid, and full of stories—both absurd and heartfelt.
• The “no gifts” rule is gleefully subverted, prompting honest conversations about gratitude, boundaries, and the risks of over-pleasing.
• The episode is a seamless mix of comedy, real-life mayhem, and authentic advice on letting go, all packaged in the classic, irreverent I Said No Gifts! style.

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For more engaging episodes and gift-related shenanigans, follow the show on Instagram: @isaidnogifts.
Check out Amy’s film ‘For Worse’ at fourworstmovie.com

Transcript

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[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

When I invited you here, I thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you gotta come to me empty handed. I said no guests. Your presence is presence enough. And I already have too much stuff. So how do you dare disobey me?

Welcome to I said no gifts. I'm Bridger Weiniger. Ellis is moving around in the studio and I thought, oh, is something going on? Everything's fine. Everything's fine. And that's fine. That's how podcasting works. I observe things and then I comment on them. And everybody benefits from me making mistakes. So we're here, we're in the studio. What's going on?

[Amy Landecker]

I'm trying to find something to clean my glasses.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Our guest has very dirty glasses apparently. Do you know what? I have a lens wipe.

[Amy Landecker]

I would love that.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Do you want one of those?

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah. I am a little OCD about dirty glasses and I probably left my lens wipe in the car. Oh, you have a fresh one.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, yeah. Ooh.

[Amy Landecker]

Oh, yeah.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I'm so prepared.

[Amy Landecker]

This is nice. You don't even have glasses on you.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

No, but you have to be prepared for everything.

[Amy Landecker]

Dear Lord, you should have been my mother.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

There's still time. The guest. I'm kind of proving myself to just be very useful today already.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah, very useful.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

So now we've got the guests will have clean glasses. That's gonna be very exciting for everybody. What's going on in my life, you know, I'm just kind of finally admitting to myself that it's time to change the battery on the garage door opener. The rumors have been kind of circulating. Will he change the battery on the garage door opener? And I'm going to do it. After about 10 to 11 months of it barely working, it might be time. So there's that. I saw a car on fire on the freeway. That was last night. But if somebody wants to get that out to the proper authorities, just in case they haven't taken care of it yet, that car is on fire. It could explode at any moment. Again, this was about 14 hours ago, so who knows? And so I think we've. I mean, think of all the territory we've already covered. I've thought Ellis was doing something. I've offered a lens wipe to the guest and garage door opener, cars exploding. What could happen next? I think we should get into the podcast. I love today's guest. She's absolutely fantastic. It's Amy Landecker.

[Amy Landecker]

Amy, hi.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Welcome to the podcast.

[Amy Landecker]

Thank you for having me.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Your glasses look great now.

[Amy Landecker]

I also have a cough. Do you have a lozenge?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

You're pushing it here.

[Amy Landecker]

The water will work.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

We have Smarties and a cigarette.

[Amy Landecker]

Hmm. Interesting. I wanted to tell you, our car blew off.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

What?

[Amy Landecker]

I had a Chevy Volt in the driveway. This is crazy. So we are going to a Dodgers game. Okay. Bradley Whitford is my husband.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Right, right.

[Amy Landecker]

You know, whatever. Look him up.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Don't look up Bradley Whitford, But Bradley, reach out.

[Amy Landecker]

So he was at the Ralph's getting some last minute something. Milk or something. I'm at home and I am getting ready. He's just gonna swing by, pick me up, and we're gonna go to the gym.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Sure.

[Amy Landecker]

So I let the dog out to take a pee before we leave, and I notice that flames are coming out of the Chevy vault.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

What?

[Amy Landecker]

And I like, we did not park in the garage. We never do. The garage is just where we put a bunch of junk. And so it's outside and we all these trees very close. That would link right to our house if this keeps going. And I stupidly just first call him and he's like, well, no, no, that's not true. The stupidest thing I did first was I went and I took. I was trying to find water, and I took like a pitcher of water and I threw it at the flames, which of course made it worse. You're not supposed to do that. And then I FaceTimed him and he's in line at the Ralphs. And I'm like, the car's on fire, and he's sort of frozen. And the people behind him are like, call 911. Call 91 1. I'm like, right. So I call 911. And they're like, just don't throw water. Right. I've already done that.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I've already done that. I'm way ahead of it.

[Amy Landecker]

And it's in the engine now, and the whole thing's going. And the fire truck came, like, within, I don't know, less than five minutes.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

That's pretty efficient.

[Amy Landecker]

It was very efficient, yes. I don't think they're that busy in Pasadena. That's where I live.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Right.

[Amy Landecker]

And it was funny because they said they were wherever they came from, they were sort of lackadaisical as they pulled up, and then they saw what was happening and they jumped out of the car and ran down the driveway. They're like, it's weird. We couldn't see the smoke from when we were driving in, so we didn't think it would be this bad. And then they spent an hour putting it out. But anyway, if I had not taken the dog out back, if I had taken the dog out front, I would not have seen that. We would have gone to the game, and our house would have burned down with our pets inside. It could have been, like, really bad.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

You have so many people to thank. The dog, those nosy shoppers.

[Amy Landecker]

Yes.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

And then lastly, the fire department always. Lastly, the fire.

[Amy Landecker]

Lastly.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yes. How did they put it out?

[Amy Landecker]

They literally just. Well, they use water, but they have a power hose that is so strong. And they sit there for, you know, half an hour till it's out. Out.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Right, right.

[Amy Landecker]

So.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

And then what was there, like, a giant scorch spot on the driveway?

[Amy Landecker]

Yes. Oh, and a car. And the car was completely like, you know, not all the car. It didn't. The great thing was there was a good firewall in the car. So the front burned, but it never caused the back to burn. The back did not. But the front of the car was like ash on the.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh.

[Amy Landecker]

It was insane.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

What caused the fire?

[Amy Landecker]

These were early. Early volts. Sometimes the battery would catch fire when you were charging.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

That is not great to hear.

[Amy Landecker]

No, I don't love hearing that as

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

an electric car owner.

[Amy Landecker]

No, I know. Well, we were like, we're big electric car owners, and Bradley's, like, you know, huge on the environment. We still kept the second vault. We have another vault.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Wow.

[Amy Landecker]

That's very risky behavior because it's a later model.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Okay. And then so you just called, or I assume the fire department kind of took care of getting rid of the car.

[Amy Landecker]

No, I don't. I don't. You know, it's funny. No, you have to call a tow service.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, still, you have to make another.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to get towed out. No, they're not going to do anything like that for you.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yeah, I guess. I've never seen a fire truck towing a car.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah, they don't got to tow you. They just got to put out the fire. They don't, like, move. They don't, like, take down the building after they put the fire out.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

That's something they should consider. That could be a new element of the business.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah, it could be something they charge for, right? Yeah.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yeah. This could be a new fund, you know, a new source of funds for the fire.

[Amy Landecker]

We contract your new building.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yeah. That's great. I feel like a lot of firefighters kind of like, could cross over into that.

[Amy Landecker]

Why are firefighters always cute?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

They're always unbelievably attractive, like, legit.

[Amy Landecker]

Like, my husband doesn't even mind when I'm just like, honey, like, what is going on?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I don't understand. Are they, like, scouting malls like model agencies used to, you know?

[Amy Landecker]

Or maybe they're going to Abercrombie and fetch, and they're just getting the people that work there when they're a little bit older. Have you ever thought about being a firefighter? Right.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

It's like the military going into high schools to recruit people.

[Amy Landecker]

Exactly.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Fire department goes to Abercrombie. That kind of makes sense. And then they always had, like, the uniform is always good looking. Even, like, the blue shirt they wear.

[Amy Landecker]

Oh, it's.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I don't know.

[Amy Landecker]

It's very strange.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yeah, it's. And then, of course, they're, like, kind of doing just this wonderful service.

[Amy Landecker]

I know. So then it's like a romanticized, whole irresistible worship thing. Yeah.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Are they still going down the pole? Do we know if they still have the polls?

[Amy Landecker]

Sorry. I'm sorry. This took a turn. Oh, dear. Are they going down the poles?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Hmm.

[Amy Landecker]

I'm just gonna leave that.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yeah, I think we should. The other thing about the fire department that I find interesting, a little darker or a little more dramatic, is that being able to leave a baby there.

[Amy Landecker]

What do you mean?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Are you familiar with this?

[Amy Landecker]

They don't leave babies.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Apparently you can surrender a baby at the fire department.

[Amy Landecker]

I thought you were saying that the fire department leaves babies by the fire.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

This isn't something you can't trust them.

[Amy Landecker]

They save the baby and then they just put the baby on the ground and go, somebody's gotta take care. Like my car. The car and the baby.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

You have to call a tow service to get the baby so you can

[Amy Landecker]

surrender to a fire department.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yeah. How did that all come into being? Do we have any?

[Amy Landecker]

Well, when I put that law into place now, I have no idea.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

It's a very interesting lawnmower.

[Amy Landecker]

I have no idea. But it's a really. Well, maybe also because, you know, the other thing fire departments always do is they go grocery shopping and they cook. Did you?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, yeah.

[Amy Landecker]

That's like a big part of it. Cause they stay for a couple of days and they make their own meals. So there's always like really cute fire guys in the grocery store too. So they're nurturing. They can cook and take care of the baby, I guess.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

How is this not like a dating app? This should be like the Raya. Like, it's Raya, but they're exclusively just people at the fire department.

[Amy Landecker]

I agree. I mean, you could call it like, you know, hot stuff. Hot stuff, Hot poles.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Every person on this would be a catch.

[Amy Landecker]

Yes.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Or at least like as a matchmaker that could charge a lot of money and then just kind of go over the fire guy.

[Amy Landecker]

Plus he sleeps at the place a couple nights a week, so you'd always get a little downtime.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Right.

[Amy Landecker]

You know, this is an ideal match. It is an ideal situation.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Wow. Every fire person should. I think that that should be the first thing on your dating app profile, at least. It's like, I work for the fire department.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I can cook. I'm cooking.

[Amy Landecker]

I can cook. And people give me their babies. They trust me with their babies.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Ready to be a parent?

[Amy Landecker]

Yes. Ready, Ready.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Wow, that's really frightening about that.

[Amy Landecker]

I'm left handed, so I'm kind of like debating where this coffee goes. And this mic is sort of like a little bit in my way.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

We kind of set these traps for the guests. Just keep them on their toes.

[Amy Landecker]

And I'm two fisting, so I'm like spendrift on the right, coffee on the left.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Have you struggled as a left handed person your whole life?

[Amy Landecker]

I mean, have I struggled? Scissors are a real pain in the butt.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Scissors seemed like the biggest problem.

[Amy Landecker]

People swear on this?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, yeah.

[Amy Landecker]

Oh, okay.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

This is the crassest podcast in the game.

[Amy Landecker]

So scissors are a real pain in the ass. That's my big swing curse word.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

X rating.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah, that's my X rated. They always were that's the one place where I really knew the world was not like that. I. And then of course, when I found out at some point in my life that they used to think we were crazy people.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Right? It was kind of like that, like

[Amy Landecker]

burn us at the stake or something. And then they would tie your hand so you couldn't use it. So you would be forced to learn how to use your right hand. Oh, grief. But then I kind of felt like it was something kind of cool when I. I don't know, like I'm different.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Of course it's like. It is.

[Amy Landecker]

I'm different than all you regular right handed people. I have special qualities.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I wonder how many like a percentage of people in the world is who are left handed.

[Amy Landecker]

It's not that much. Like I. It's actually like a pretty rare variant.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yeah, it must be very small. I mean, my mom's left handed. I don't think anyone else in our family or her family is left handed.

[Amy Landecker]

And your mother.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yeah, it's just.

[Amy Landecker]

That's why I feel so maternal towards you. Because I'm left handed.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

You've been nurturing this entire episode. So it's really scissors. But why? Because they make left handed scissors.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah, but you have to go buy it.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

It's almost like a gag product.

[Amy Landecker]

Nobody has those.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Right? You buy those at like a prank store.

[Amy Landecker]

You have to go get that. But in school there weren't left handed scissors.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

And so do you just have to ask a friend?

[Amy Landecker]

It's like, you're literally like, no, it hurts. Your. You're literally like shoving your hand and it hurts to cut.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

And how is it that differently shaped?

[Amy Landecker]

I don't even understand because there's like the little.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, you kind of almost have to flip it over.

[Amy Landecker]

Exactly. And you know what? I don't know if I ever tried that.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, interesting. So this is all kind of your fault.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah. Yeah. If I'd only given it a little bit more MacGyver effort, I could have figured it out all those years ago.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Other than that, it's like, although it's

[Amy Landecker]

still a thing when people go, are you left handed? Like my husband, every time I say it, he's like, are you left handed? I'm like, honey, you know I'm left handed. But he's like, wow. Like, and my uncle's left handed. Like left handed people know left handed people.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Right?

[Amy Landecker]

But it's like, yeah. And what does it mean?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

And I'm trying to. There aren't that many other. I guess like if you were shifting

[Amy Landecker]

a car there's ambidextrous, Right? So I do. There is some. What often happens with left handed people is they adapt and some things they do well with their right hand.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Right?

[Amy Landecker]

So like, I can't remember because I haven't really been very athletic lately. But I do like yoga. You can use both hands. But like, I remember like baseball, softball, I could kind of hit on either side, Right. So there's some people too that are like hardcore left. And I think I have a little bit of ambidextrous abilities.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Okay, you refuse?

[Amy Landecker]

Well, or I just naturally have more flexibility. Depends on how you want to look at it.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

No, I'm trying to, like, imagine things I do all the time, only with my right hand.

[Amy Landecker]

The whole world's made. Well, that's not true because if you're in Europe, you're gonna have the stick on the other side.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, right. That is a nightmare.

[Amy Landecker]

I have a funny story about that.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Let's hear this.

[Amy Landecker]

Okay, so I was asked to do this movie called Hunter's Prayer that shot in England many, I don't know, maybe 10 years ago. And they always ask you on your special skills, do you drive a car? Of course I do drive a car. And I was playing this very badass corrupt police. FBI. I think I was FBI. And I'm supposed to be very facile with a stick theme today. So I don't even know how to drive stick, let alone being facile with it.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Right.

[Amy Landecker]

And they. So they shoot a scene before I get there with my stunt double, and it establishes this particular type of car that only comes in a stick. So they're like, I'm like, I won't be, you know, I can't drive it on camera. And they want this character to be able to get in the car, slam the door and pull away. Right? So, like, we're gonna get you driving lessons.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, wow.

[Amy Landecker]

So. And I had to drive on the wrong other side of the street. So I'm trying to learn stick and be on the other side. And I was. It was so really cute though. It was really fun. I was staying in Harrogate, which is very like very northern in the city. Cute, sweet, you know, older, like, you know, driving teacher came and we would, you know, toodle around the town and I felt somewhat able. But anyone who drives a stick knows that like, the actual, like the smoothness takes a lot of time.

[Bowen Yang]

It takes a lot.

[Amy Landecker]

You can't like fake that shift.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

And it takes a long time just to like get into like a. Even being bumpy at driving.

[Amy Landecker]

Exactly. Like, you know, I mean, and so we wasted all this money and time, and then, you know, we get on camera, and every time I shift the car, jerks. Which does not look like a badass FBI woman in front of a big castle. And so they had to, like, use the. I'm like, they had to redo the thing and use the stunt double. I'm like, we should have just done that anyway.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yeah. That feels like something that's just like.

[Amy Landecker]

You change the shot.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Right. You can't count on somebody to be able to drive. Like, most movies don't count on the actor to drive the car at all.

[Amy Landecker]

Exactly.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

So what are we doing?

[Amy Landecker]

I don't know. And I was like, very. That this is also making me think of another stunt double story that will blow your mind. But I was on a show that shall remain unnamed, and they did not tell me until I got there on the day that they wanted me to ride a horse in the scene to a mark, holding a antique rifle that cost, like, 50 pounds. And I was like. I got into kind of an argument with the director, and when the showrunner found out, he was, like, horrified. And everyone's apologizing to me, but I'm like, this is after rust. I mean, this is.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, this is. Oh, my God.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah. This is like, are you kidding me?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

And these are two things that separately, are dangerous. Riding a horse and holding a gun.

[Amy Landecker]

Exactly. And I hadn't been shown properly how to shoot the gun, and I hadn't been asked if I knew how to ride a horse. And she goes, well, it was in the scene, and it wasn't in the scene, by the way, is that it doesn't say anything about me shooting this shotgun that was 20, you know, really old and heavy. You really also want to look like you know what you're doing. Yeah.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

So it's part of action.

[Amy Landecker]

And then the other was that we were by a raging river, and in the scene, it says, you just get on the horse. Like, at the end of the scene, I can get on a horse.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Okay, well, that's impressive. I'll say.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah, I love horses, but that is not the same as asking me. And they should have even checked if I knew how to do that.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Of course. I think that that helps everybody. Ultimately.

[Amy Landecker]

Yes. Like, do you feel comfortable mounting a horse? Plus, God, we're just really getting into something. Plus, they did not tell me that when I'm mounting the horse, there's gonna be a girl in front of me holding a baby. This was the Craziest thing.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

It's like this Rube Goldberg machine where just several people are killed.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah. I mean, I was like, what are we doing? And anyway, it turns out. And I knew we had stunt doubles. No one told the director that we had stunt doubles there to do all that.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

What were they doing on a smoke break?

[Amy Landecker]

Oh, here's what it was. There was, like, a group of us. We were all like, nuns with guns. Okay.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Well, I love whatever this is. I wish you would name it.

[Amy Landecker]

I know, I know. It all got cut anyway, so you'll never see it. But the background and the stunt doubles looked exactly the same. So unless someone told her, we have these people available for you. But it was a very, like, chaotic environment and a chaotic set. And so she never knew. And I think that was. And, I mean, the whole day, she never knew. And we ended up just changing the blocking of the thing because I said, there's no way that I'm doing this on a horse. And then the horse person and the gun person thanked me because, you know, there were all these young actors on this show that would never say no.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Right. Yeah. It's just like, well, I have to do this. I don't wanna get fired.

[Amy Landecker]

Exactly. And I was in a scene with a bunch of, like, local hires and people who were so, like, afraid to say they didn't know how to ride a horse either, that is. And so I'm like, the old lady who's like, no, good for you. I don't care. I don't wanna die today.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Well, for that to be happening, post rust is especially crazy.

[Amy Landecker]

It was even weird because there was, like, an article that day about how he, Alec Baldwin, had, like, fought to ride the horse on camera. And the horse trainers were like, you're not a good enough rider to. So it was actually in the trial that he was pushing that a little bit.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Right, right.

[Amy Landecker]

So, I mean, yeah, it was a very strange experience. I've had more than a few, but. But yeah, anyway.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

And Nuns with guns.

[Amy Landecker]

Nuns with guns.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

That feels like it should at very least be a calendar series. I agree. TV show. There's something there.

[Amy Landecker]

It would be fun if it was drag.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, that's great.

[Amy Landecker]

Drag.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Nuns with guns.

[Amy Landecker]

Then you could get, like, really sexual with it.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Totally. I also. Wow. I just have so many questions about that. That's fascinating. It feels like you're just attracting wherever you go.

[Amy Landecker]

Might be true.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Which is a catastrophe.

[Amy Landecker]

That's true. Cars are blowing up. Yeah. I'm falling off horses.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I tried to. I actually could drive A stick. Pretty well. But in England. Rented a car and nearly didn't make it out of the parking garage. It was humiliating because.

[Amy Landecker]

Why?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Because I was used to driving with my right hand.

[Amy Landecker]

Ah. See? Full circle. Right to left, right.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Nightmare.

[Amy Landecker]

There you have it.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

And then I did run into a curb going about 50 miles an hour. So the whole.

[Amy Landecker]

That's not fun. No. And right. That was the other problem. It's like, it's not just. Just that I'm doing the stick. I'm doing it on the wrong side of the car.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I can't believe you're alive to be here on the podcast. It's a miracle.

[Amy Landecker]

It is a miracle.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

So many different ways.

[Amy Landecker]

It's a miracle.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Well, I feel like there's something else that's not a miracle. Something that's a little bit more troublesome. I was excited to have you here on the podcast today, Amy. I thought Amy is going to come by. I'm sure she'll have some story about a car being on fire. We'll get into that, and then I'll move on. We'll have a nice time.

[Amy Landecker]

Your absurd request.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Well, I was a little upset when you showed up to my podcast. I said, no gifts holding.

[Amy Landecker]

No one means it when they say that.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I do.

[Amy Landecker]

It's literally like you're saying, bring me a gift. Let's be honest. How annoying.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I don't know anything about it, though.

[Amy Landecker]

No, no gifts, Please, no gifts. And then they're like, can you believe she showed up and she didn't bring a gift? Well, I didn't bring you anything, so it's fine.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Okay, good. Well, then we'll just keep talking about cars being a gift.

[Amy Landecker]

No, I did. First of all, it came in a very cute pink.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yes.

[Amy Landecker]

It's in this very nice Bangam Hotels and resorts.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Gorgeous.

[Amy Landecker]

Bang. My mother stays there during Christmas.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, that's nice. Oh, the one in Pasadena.

[Amy Landecker]

Yes.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

It's a very nice resort.

[Amy Landecker]

Stunning. And it smells really good. And everything's like pink, which I like.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yeah. And it's like.

[Amy Landecker]

It's a nice pink.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

A very faint pink, which I enjoy.

[Amy Landecker]

Like, bright pink and black is cheap, right? Faint pink and black is elegant.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yeah. Like, bright pink and black is very Victoria's Secret.

[Amy Landecker]

Or. Yes. Or the. The girls in Greece in those jackets.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, yeah, totally.

[Amy Landecker]

What are they called?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Something apples or something.

[Amy Landecker]

Is that pink Ladies.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Pink Ladies, yes. Wow. Good for me. For.

[Amy Landecker]

Interesting that we couldn't come up with pink or ladies.

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[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Okay, let's, let's get in here. Okay. There are two options.

[Amy Landecker]

I brought two gifts. Not only did I bring gifts and they're not related to each other.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Okay. It doesn't matter which you open first.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah, let's open the little one first.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Okay. They're pretty dense.

[Amy Landecker]

This is in. I also wanted to point out my special paper because it's a critical role which some of your listeners. Yeah, of course, might be into. We are really into them in, in our house. And so I bought Critical Role wrapping paper probably four years ago and I still have it.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I think that's kind of the rule with wrapping papers. You buy it and then it just goes in a couple.

[Amy Landecker]

And then I wrapped what I needed that year. And then I think it's. I think it's very cute though.

[Bowen Yang]

So I thought it'd be.

[Amy Landecker]

It would be good for you.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

All right, let's. Ooh, that's thick wrapping paper. I like it. Okay, we're opening.

[Amy Landecker]

I debated bringing you both, but.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, what? Okay, this. It says Santa's pipe smoke. Big ass brick of soap.

[Amy Landecker]

Wait and take it out. It is a very nice bar of soap.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Bar of soap. It smells so good.

[Amy Landecker]

This is a re. Gift from the. What do you call them? Yes. It's a beautiful thing of soap.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Look at that thing. You could use this as a weapon.

[Amy Landecker]

That's quality soap. I know someone gave you. I heard one of your podcasts where. Oh, Wendy, she brought you, like, smelly toilet paper.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, yes, the strawberry. Strawberry hello Kitty toilet paper.

[Amy Landecker]

And I was like, oh, that's so fun. And then I forgot that, you know, basically I have, like, a little cabinet at home where I put little things that we maybe got gifted that we're not gonna use. And I try to figure out if someone might want them. And this was a recycled stocking stuffer.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

This is a great stocking stuffer.

[Amy Landecker]

Yes. I think it says Santa's pipe.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yeah. This is very Christmas oriented. Duke Cannon. I don't know what that is.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah, I'm not sure, but you can re gift it or use it.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

It. I. I will probably use it.

[Amy Landecker]

I mean, I thought, honestly, when I took the soap out, I was like, oh, what is a really nice soap? And I think.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Did you say that smell like smoke?

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah. Yes, Actually, you can get. Go real close. It does have a smokey quality.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Smells. Not a casino smoke.

[Amy Landecker]

No. But just in a nice. I know you really want to wear, like, a super masculine scent.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Right.

[Amy Landecker]

So that's what I'm getting for you.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yeah. I've never heard of this brand, the Duke Cannon soap.

[Amy Landecker]

I haven't either.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Are you a bar soap person or a shower ch.

[Amy Landecker]

Shower gel.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yeah.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah. Bar soap kind of freaks me out because it always gets down to that, like, bottom part. And, you know, at that point, it's just, like, disgusting.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

What is this? Filthy.

[Amy Landecker]

But you're like, is it small enough that I should throw it away? Like I'm wasting.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Right.

[Amy Landecker]

And then it just gets caught in your drain and everything gets backed up.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yeah.

[Amy Landecker]

So I like a good pump.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yeah. I feel like you're off the podcast. Leave the show.

[Amy Landecker]

I'm not even trying, you guys. Not even trying.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Wow. This is a very. I guess I don't mind a bar soap for hands because frequently it smells pretty good.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah. But also, like, as a house thing, you know, Oprah. If you go stay at Oprah's house, of which I've never done, she replaces the guest soap for every guest because you don't want the stuff that was on the other guests.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

So she's just throwing the rest in the ocean.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah. She's destroying the earth. I don't even want to talk about Oprah. I've been a little disappointed lately, to say that. Least but. And I'm 56, so she was a big part of my life. I'm very disappointed, but whatever. Not because of soap, but Oprah should do better. She got me into this thing about, like, dried up old soap.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

So I guess Oprah was the one that got you into the soap thing.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah, I guess that's why I'm giving you that soap. Get it out of my house.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I don't like a bar soap in a public place.

[Amy Landecker]

No, private. Sure.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

If it's just us privately. Sure.

[Amy Landecker]

Just us in a.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

But if you have a bar soap in your place of business, what are you doing?

[Narrator/Announcer]

Oh.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Or.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah, I don't. Yeah. Or a guest bathroom, I think now.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yeah, that's just. It's. I think we've all moved on in a way. Yeah, I think it's more just there for the smell.

[Amy Landecker]

It can be very decorative. Yeah, my mom is really into decorative soaps.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Okay.

[Amy Landecker]

So I. Actually, one of my fun things is to, like, really go find wherever I am, like, the most extraordinarily beautiful soap.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Where's the best soap you've got gotten?

[Amy Landecker]

Oh, that's a good question. Probably like Santa Barbara.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Santa Barbara feels like probably the good soap capital of the family. Yeah.

[Amy Landecker]

Like one of those, like, high end gift stores that it's like super decorated and floral and bar of Soap is like $70. Exactly. No, I think that's about right.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yeah, I, I believe that.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah. I think I did buy like a very expensive bar of soap there that probably was like maybe 50. Maybe it was 70. But.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

But that's a, that's a lot.

[Amy Landecker]

But you don't use that. Soap's just there to say it's like potpourri or something. Exactly, it's like potpourri.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

What is soap made out of? Do we know what soap is made out of? Is it wax?

[Amy Landecker]

Well, when I invented soap again, I brought you on.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I'm just realizing.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah, no, no, that's a good question. Yeah. What are we.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

What are we rubbing all over? Is it like lard?

[Amy Landecker]

Glycerin.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Glycerin. Now you just say glycerin like you know what glycerin is.

[Amy Landecker]

Well, exactly. I don't really know what glycerin is either, but I feel like that's a big ingredient.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yeah, glycerin's gotta be at the top of the list.

[Amy Landecker]

It's like a l liquid thing that can be hard.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Gelatin. Gelatin, maybe, but gelatin feels like it would really fall apart pretty quickly in water. But people are making soap all the time.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

And it's making this soap.

[Amy Landecker]

It gets wet and falls and then it holds. It doesn't make any sense.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

No. I will only let soap be purchased for me. I'm never going out for a bar

[Amy Landecker]

of soap for gadgets now. You don't have to. Now I've got at least that giant brick, big ass brick of soap is how. How it's described.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Do you do a big thing for Christmas?

[Amy Landecker]

Yes.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

What are you doing?

[Amy Landecker]

Christmas is huge in my house, which is sort of funny because my grandfather was a German Jew who escaped during the war. But we always. My mom's side was not, but also my grandmother. So incredible story is that my grandmother on my dad's side is a descendant of farmers in Indiana and her father was in the Ku Klux Klan marching band.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh.

[Amy Landecker]

But not because marching. Not because he was like into the Ku Klux Klan, but because it was the only marching band that you could be a part of in Indiana back in the day. So I think this might have been like pre. I don't know if there was ever pre hoods, but I can't imagine my great grandfather in a hood. I don't think that was it. But she fell in love with. With my grandfather, who University of Michigan saved him. There was a time in the early Nazi regime where if you could get sponsored by an education institution that would take you away, they would let you. Cause they didn't want any of the smart Jews there. They wanted you taken away. So University of Michigan paid for his passage and he became a professor there. But we never really talked about. He became very. He was a religious. I think they went to like a Unitarian church. But like, so I always knew I had these like Jewish. And I had Jewish aunts and uncles. So there was always a combo going on. We were always kind of doing a little bit of Hanukkah. But Christmas was like the greatest day of my life every year. And both of my parents were extremely overdone in their gift giving. It just became hence two gifts, not one. What am I gonna show everybody?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

You've gone too far.

[Amy Landecker]

I mean, I almost brought you three. I almost brought you something from Japan, but I was like, okay, it's like a little too much. And I might want to give that to somebody. But that.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I know another gift based podcast.

[Amy Landecker]

Yes, there might be someone else, but yeah, it was. Wait, I totally lost this.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

You're talking about Christmas being going all crazy.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was like we got like a thousand gifts. So I continue that tradition. We have, you know, you have the stockings. If there were kids, you would put the cookies out and we would write a letter that goes on until you're about 15 and then everyone just like decides to let it go.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

This is just a dirty dish.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah. Now it's just annoying.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Right.

[Amy Landecker]

But you, you know, you have the fireplace open with the footprints and. Oh, the whole nine.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Wow.

[Amy Landecker]

They're like props, essentially, and huge stockings and then tons of gifts. Oh, my God. It's really fun.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

That's wonderful.

[Amy Landecker]

I love Christmas.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

That sounds lovely.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

And I'm just still thinking about the KKK marching band.

[Amy Landecker]

My dad's been trying to write a movie script about that for the longest time.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yeah. It's like probably.

[Amy Landecker]

It is really fascinating.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

A tricky line to walk.

[Amy Landecker]

Yes. Yeah, I know. Although he was perfectly welcoming and loved my grandfather and had no problem, it wasn't his belief system. It literally was.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

He just loved playing the trumpet.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah. It was pretty interesting going to there farm. It was very different than, you know, my grandfather's side of the family. Now because of the state of the United States, my father is actively seeking his dual citizenship. Because if you were a descendant of a Jew.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Right. You couldn't.

[Amy Landecker]

You can. And then your descendants can. And so we have looked into getting an attorney to expedite it just in case any of us need to get the hell out of here.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, my gosh.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

A lot of people looking into Germany

[Amy Landecker]

would be the safe place to go.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I know. Life surprises. Life has a way.

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[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Let's open this next thing here.

[Amy Landecker]

Okay.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Okay. Nice wrapping. Yeah, I guess you sell.

[Amy Landecker]

I mean, I'm not really that good at wrapping.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Better than me.

[Amy Landecker]

But I did wrap it better than me.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Come with a book.

[Amy Landecker]

Do you know this?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I'm familiar through TikTok, to be honest. The Let them Theory by Mel Roberts.

[Amy Landecker]

When this came out, I bought six of them for these girlfriends of mine for Christmas. And then I kind of just like. I don't know, a couple of them already had it. So I've had like three on my bookshelf now. I did inscribe it to you, though. You might want to read the inscription.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

It says, bridger, you need to just let them bring gifts.

[Amy Landecker]

Maybe I refuse. So let them. I never got to the second part of the book.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, what's that? Stop letting them.

[Amy Landecker]

There's the let them. And then there's also, like, not being a total asshole. Right.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Okay, interesting.

[Amy Landecker]

The suggestion is not that you just don't care. Take anyone ever.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Right? But I think that people have only taken the first half. You're like, okay, I get it.

[Amy Landecker]

They only want the first half. But I am one of those people where when someone's upset, I get extremely uncomfortable and I try to manage the situation.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Right.

[Amy Landecker]

And that sort of simple phrase was something that I felt around Christmas time could be really helpful. You know, like if someone's upset because this, that, or the other thing, you let them. And it was really funny because I probably did the like actively was doing it for a few weeks. And there was like some point where Frali was irritated about something and I didn't respond. He's like, oh, are you just letting me. Is that what we're doing? And I was like. And I was like, he's right. That's what I was doing. I was like, oh, well, let him be upset.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yeah, then you have to let him be upset about being. Let them. The book.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. But it might. I don't know a lot about you. I don't know if you need this.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yeah, I remember this blew up on various social media for a while.

[Amy Landecker]

Well, it's like the one now. Are you mad at Me. It's like, I think if you have a title, this is such a great. You don't need to read it. You just have to go, you know what? Just let them. It's like a mantra. You don't need to read the inside and you're done.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Do you think Mel Robbins is out there freaking out, saying, there's the other half of the book. I've now created an army of people who don't care about each other, by the way, she's.

[Amy Landecker]

She has. She does bring that up a lot because she gets a lot of shit for this. Because everyone's like, this is like a theory where it's like, you're mad. I don't give a shit.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yeah. It's like, I have no responsibility for anybody ever.

[Amy Landecker]

I don't care. I don't care. And she's like, that is not. But that's not. Because they've read the first half, not the second half. They just haven't read it at all.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Right.

[Amy Landecker]

And I'm sure she's happy that people are still buying it. Just. And then they're like, you know what? I got it. I got it.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I'm sure she's happy people are buying it.

[Amy Landecker]

The let them theory.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yeah. It's such an interesting one because it's so appealing to be like, oh, I don't ever have to be responsible again.

[Amy Landecker]

I feel like it should go, like, right up there. Like, right.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

This is how everybody is. They buy the book, they put it on their bookshelf, and they stop caring about other people.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah. There you have it.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Let them.

[Amy Landecker]

It'll remind you every time that you're at work.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

When you started taking this advice, did it change anything for you?

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah, I kind of actually. I mean, I mean, look, you know, I have. My father wrote a memoir. He's a very, very well known radio disc jockey in the Midwest. Yes. He's in, like, the Rock and Roll hall of Fame museum. No way. Yep. Yep. His name's John and this is really his middle name. Records Landecker. So the racist grandpa. His last name was Records.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh.

[Amy Landecker]

So it became my dad's middle name. He was not racist. The Great grand. He was just in the Ku Klux Klan. Marketing man. But my dad, yeah, he became a disc jockey. So I'm only saying that he wrote a memoir that is public so I can say, like, he was an alcoholic and a drug addict when I was younger. And children of alcoholics and drug addicts tend to really get freaked out when people are, like, upset or this disorder. So I was always like an Al Anon type adjacent person my whole life. Like, I knew the thing whole, you know, like, I didn't cause it. I can't cure it. And there's another c. There's like. I don't know what the other one is, but there's three of them.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Let them.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah, let them. And so that idea of, like, you know, not feeling like you're gonna die if someone's mad, like, not having a panic inside, that was always something that I aspired to. What I really liked about out this title was literally. It was like an easy thing to remember.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, it's so hard. Do you know what I mean?

[Amy Landecker]

It was just like. It's like, let them. It doesn't mean don't care about the people you love and don't take responsibility for the stuff that you do, but for the stuff that you can't control, and you're just over managing. When I was pregnant with my child, my mom. My mom was a hatha yangar teacher. Doula.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, wow.

[Amy Landecker]

And she was gonna be my doula.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Okay?

[Amy Landecker]

Now, if you know me, I am not a natural childbirth person, okay?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

You weren't going to have the baby

[Amy Landecker]

in the hospital give me the drugs. But I was trying to please my mother.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, boy.

[Amy Landecker]

So I agreed to have her be my doula. I agreed to do natural childbirth. We get into the hospital, and my mom's with me, and I am, like, vomiting, but I haven't even opened up enough. So they physically opened me, and they go, and my doctor's not there yet who has the natural childbirth plan. And they're like, what? You know, we're gonna admit you to the regular floor, which I knew was the floor where you could get drugs if you wanted to get drugs. And the reason I knew this is I did a tour of the birthing center floor. And when I went on the tour, first of all, there's a woman, like, screaming bloody murder as we're walking by. And I was like. And then the woman looked at all of us, this group, this tour group, and she was like, no, know who you are. And she said it in this, like, very. And she repeated it. Know who you.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

She pops up from the shadows and

[Amy Landecker]

tells you, yeah, if you are a person who might want an epidural, do not come to this floor.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, interesting.

[Amy Landecker]

And I knew. I was like, I'm an epidural person, right?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

The temptation.

[Amy Landecker]

And I was, like, ashamed by friends who've, like, done documentaries around natural childbirth. Like, this is a shame issue, right? Like, I'm, you know, Gabby Hoffman's one of my closest friends. Like, she'll have a baby right here on the floor in front of us. Like, no problem. Although she's not judgmental. But I would think she would judge me, right? So we get put into this room, and my mom puts me in a bathtub, and I spend about an hour in the bathtub trying to regulate everything. And I just looked up at her and I was like, mom, I want the epidural. And I thought she was gonna, like, be really mad. And she was just like, okay. And she. I know. It was a huge moment for us.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

It was a huge moment. You got to be honest with each other.

[Amy Landecker]

So I didn't even need to let her. But that comes back. What that has to do with it is that simplicity. Like, know who you are. I've used that, like, a thousand times in my life. Like, who am I? What do I want?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Rather than being defined by everybody else's

[Amy Landecker]

behavior and what your opinion is.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I feel like you're doing a lot of good work for Mel Robbins right now. Explain Mel Robbins.

[Amy Landecker]

I've got the black glasses on. I'm basically doing a Mel Robbins impersonation.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

You're like, you're the second half of the book for. Yeah, that's right now you're gonna be all over TikTok. People will be like, oh, that's what was supposed to happen.

[Amy Landecker]

That's what it was. I got it. I don't even have. Just put it on your shelf. Read the side.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I wouldn't be surprised if that book is just blank and they just put that title on the COVID and they're like, this is gonna sell.

[Amy Landecker]

Oh, my God.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

No one's going to look into this.

[Amy Landecker]

I have, like, a book someone gave me that was a pretty hefty book, and the COVID is, like, everything that has made me proud of Donald Trump or something. And it's just an empty.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

That's a great gag.

[Amy Landecker]

It's a great gag. And it's just empty pages that could

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

be used as a journal.

[Amy Landecker]

Yes.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

That's a good hidden journal.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Although no one's gonna look into it.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah, that's true.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Most Private thoughts.

[Amy Landecker]

That's true. That's true.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Wow. Let them. Yeah. I feel like that's kind of like part of human behavior is like, oh, just being. The reason it blew up in such a way is like you're just looking for an excuse to do the bare minimum and so.

[Amy Landecker]

Well, I think if you're like, you know. Yes. If you're a toxic narcissist. That could be used inappropriately. But also, I think there's a lot of people who are really trapped in people pleasing.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, yeah. I mean, absolutely.

[Amy Landecker]

It depends on which direction you're coming from. But you're right. For the real assholes of the world, it's a real, like, cosine.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Right? Totally. Yeah. But it also makes perfect sense. I should be letting more people do a lot of things I simply can't.

[Amy Landecker]

Yes.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I'm just constantly paranoid about everyone's behavior.

[Amy Landecker]

Clearly. I mean, the name of your podcast is like Telling People what to Do.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Okay. Yeah, Maybe I should give. Let them a little bit more of a shot. Yeah, it's hard. It's hard to just let people do.

[Amy Landecker]

What did you come up with? I said no gifts.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Deep greed, and just because you knew control issues.

[Amy Landecker]

It was gonna be the opposite.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

No, it was just a thing that kind of. I had kind of wanted to do a podcast, but obviously it's hard to come up with an actual idea. Then I was driving home from a writing job I had, and this came into my mind. It's like, oh, that is kind of a podcast already.

[Amy Landecker]

That's a great idea.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

And then thank God the network was there to set it up. And because I'm very lazy, I wouldn't have done it on my own.

[Amy Landecker]

Me too.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

And it's.

[Amy Landecker]

Is that exactly right?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Exactly right. That's the network. And so now I'm just surrounded by objects for. I think we have almost 300 episodes, and probably.

[Amy Landecker]

That's fun.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I probably have, like, 500 objects.

[Amy Landecker]

But I brought you the best gift.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Of course. We finally got to one that I can use. The rest of this will be sent to the dump.

[Amy Landecker]

I really actually want to know, knowing it's not mine. Are you allowed to say, like, what has been one of your favorite gifts you've ever gotten?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

And I feel like I answer the same thing all the time. So I'm gonna try to be a little. I'm gonna try to branch out here because I usually say a car garbage can was given to me, which is great.

[Amy Landecker]

Oh, that's fun.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

A beautiful waffle iron. But more recently, a friend painted a picture of my new dog, which was just really lovely, which is like, a good gift regardless of cars, you know, like, Paul Rubens was on. And so, like, this cactus candy right here is just, like, a very memorable thing. Yeah, I feel like most of the gifts.

[Amy Landecker]

Murder thing.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Let's see. Oh, this is murder Seed wrote Maria Thayer made this for the Iowa State fair, I want to say. And she kind of does the seed art every year.

[Amy Landecker]

Oh, that's cool.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

And so she brought this. What's the photograph of right here? Yeah, that's a picture of IO Edebury.

[Amy Landecker]

Oh, God, I didn't even recognize her. She looks 12 years old.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yes, that is her at that age.

[Amy Landecker]

Oh, I see.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

And she sent a photo of herself dressed as a present to an Etsy person to paint of her.

[Amy Landecker]

Oh, that's really cute.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

But I've gotten a lot of. This is smelling salts, which is essentially drugs. And most of the things are fun. I feel like that's weird. Al, he gave me his high school trophy.

[Amy Landecker]

Oh, wow.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I mean, I've kind of gotten a little bit of everything. It's a big gift. Yeah, it's a wild one, right?

[Amy Landecker]

What's it for?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

It's for debate, I believe.

[Amy Landecker]

Ah, sc.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Expository.

[Amy Landecker]

Expository.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I believe that's of the.

[Event Promoter]

What?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Amy is now just destroying the student.

[Amy Landecker]

What else?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

That's a beautiful masquerade mask. Is that what we call those? Yeah, that's from Chris Fleming. Yeah. I've just gotten a lot of wonderful things, and now I've got let them. And so I've finally made it to the end of the rainbow and gotten my.

[Amy Landecker]

Now wait here shows my brain fog. Who. What was the second gift you said?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Let's see.

[Amy Landecker]

Oh, there was some. Oh, the picture. What kind of dog do you have?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, she's a Rottweiler.

[Amy Landecker]

Can I see?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yes. I took.

[Amy Landecker]

I'm obsessed with dogs.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I last night took a photo of her that I just like.

[Amy Landecker]

And how long have you had her?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I've had her. We've had her for eight months now. She just turned a year, and she's just the most beautiful creature.

[Amy Landecker]

Oh, my God. God. I have a funny story. Speaking of gifts, let's hear. So I'm friends with Samantha Ronson, who's like this DJ Mark Ronson's sister and artist in her very own right. Oh, wow.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Gorgeous.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Aw.

[Amy Landecker]

She's very cute and beautiful.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yeah, she's a beautiful gal.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah, she's beautiful. So we lost, you know, our dear pet Izzy. I think it was two summers ago. She was a. A Chihuahua mix. We'd also lost our boxer Otis shortly before. It was devastating.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

The worst feeling.

[Amy Landecker]

I actually had to put my cat down and Izzy down within a week of each other. It was just a terrible time. Terrible time. By the way, while I'm shooting that horse.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, you're kidding. It was all during that.

[Amy Landecker]

It was horrible. It was horrible. But she wanted to get us a present. And there's this artist who makes these, like, pretty expensive, like, felt renderings of your animal that are 3D in a little frame.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, lovely.

[Amy Landecker]

And she sent me the. She sent me some of his work and was like, do you. Do you have a good picture of Izzy? Do you. You know, I. I want to get this for you and Bradley. And I was like, oh, my God, that's just so sweet. And I sent her pictures, and. And. And the thing showed up, and it is literally, like, the creepiest thing you've ever had in your home. And I. And, like, we had a text exchange about it, and she knows, like, she's like, what do you. And I was like. I think she was like. She thought it was hysterical. Thank God she was not offended. She thought it was absolutely hysterical. But it looks like you killed your dog and you have mounted.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, no.

[Amy Landecker]

You know what I mean?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

It looked like taxidermy.

[Amy Landecker]

Yes, it looks like taxidermy.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Do you have a picture of it?

[Amy Landecker]

I was just thinking I probably do somewhere on my phone, but it would take me way too long.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, that sounds really unsettling.

[Amy Landecker]

I mean, we literally hide it on a bookshelf upstairs where no one can see it, and we sort of pull it out as a gag.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Like, the full dog.

[Amy Landecker]

No, it's her head.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, no.

[Amy Landecker]

It really looks like you mounted your dog after. It's very.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Who could have possibly thought that was a good idea for a gift?

[Amy Landecker]

No, but when you look at it, like, on the page, it looks kind of cool. You don't realize that the 3D quality will then make it look like you killed a deer.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Right?

[Amy Landecker]

You know what I mean?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, no, that's a bad option.

[Amy Landecker]

It's not. I mean, it was not good. It was not good. You made me think of that idea. Yeah, it was.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

That is a nice gift you can give somebody after their pet passes away. Is something a piece of art about the pet?

[Amy Landecker]

Yes.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Maybe not a 3D vision.

[Amy Landecker]

And then I got my mom, like, a rock with this cat she had for 27 years. Diamond who just.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

27 years. That's the oldest cat I've ever heard.

[Amy Landecker]

Me, too. And it was just weird because I ordered this rock with Diamond's name for her garden, and it just sort of showed up like this. Like this soap. Like, it was just this big gray block of nothing. And it just said, like, Diamond. And she was like, you know, she's a virile aesthete. And I was like, sorry, Mom. She's not the rock I was. I didn't mean like some rock that looks like a big turd.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

You could have made that at home.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah, it would have been better. It would have been better.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, wow. Well, I feel like we should play a game.

[Amy Landecker]

Oh, yeah, we're gonna play a game

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

called gift or a curse. But I need a number between one and 10 from you.

[Amy Landecker]

Seven.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Okay. I have to do some light calculating right now to get our game pieces so you can promote, recommend, do whatever you want. I'll be right back.

[Amy Landecker]

Well, I happen to be here the week that a feature film that I made, that I wrote and directed and act in that opened at south by Southwest last year is having a theatrical release, which is a very big deal for these little low budget movies. So it'll be at the Laemmle Royale in Los Angeles starting the 27th, and it will be at the Quad Cinema in New York starting the 26th, and then it will reach out nationwide the next week. And the better it does, the better, the more screens we get. I think we're on about 40 so far and hoping to go to like 100 or 200 across the country.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Did you name the movie?

[Amy Landecker]

It's called For Worse. Okay. It's inspired by. It's a rom com. It's my attempt at a very traditional rom com.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, fun.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah, it's very tropey. Very traditional. I have an insane cast. I have Gabby Hoffman and Ken Marino. Oh, wonderful. I mean, just Kelsey Reinhart, Bradley Whitford. Don't know if you've heard of him. Nico Hiraga, who's a really great young. He's a skateboarder and a model. But he also is a wonderful actor. And if you bring up his name around any young girl under the age of 25, she's like, oh, my God, Nico. And God, just so many people. I can't even. Claudia Cielewski. Just an insane group of talented people joined me to make this little funny. Oh, Missy Pyle. How could I forget her? Missy Pyle.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Wait, are you in it too?

[Amy Landecker]

I'm the lead.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, amazing.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah, so I wrote myself a lead part in a movie that's great because no one else is gonna give it to me. And I directed it and I thought that was gonna be really scary, but it really wasn't. It was kind of fun. And it's inspired by my absurd behavior after my divorce. So For Worse.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, I really like that idea.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah, fun.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Everyone go see the movie.

[Amy Landecker]

4 worst fourworstmovie.com has a great place to. It has all the places it's playing and ticket links.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Beautiful. Beautiful. Okay, this is how we play. Gift or a curse. I'm going to name three things. You'll tell me if they are a gift or a curse, and why.

[Amy Landecker]

Okay.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

And then I'll tell you if you're right or wrong. Because there are curses, and right or

[Amy Landecker]

wrong is just your opinion, Amy.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

No, right or wrong.

[Amy Landecker]

It's a universally true that somehow I disagree.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yes.

[Amy Landecker]

All right, I'll just let you have your opinion.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Getting ahead of the story. Amy Landecker. Okay, this first one is from a listener named Denise. Gift or a curse. When you are walking and someone stops in front of you, but the second you catch up to them, they start walking at your exact pace.

[Amy Landecker]

Oh, curse.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Why?

[Amy Landecker]

It's so creepy. No one wants to walk side by side with someone they don't know. Like, you either want to get ahead or you want to get behind. That is a very uneasy situation. It's like, am I supposed to talk to you? That's.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

There's.

[Amy Landecker]

It's like a car that just wants to drive alongside of you. You're like, are you going to kill me?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, a car alongside you is a very eerie feeling.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah, well, it's even worse when it's just a person standing there. I mean, I don't know what they're gonna do to me. Why are they doing that? They're taunting me. They're going to kill me. Or they have no spatial relation awareness. No, that is definitely not good.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Wrong.

[Amy Landecker]

Oh, come on. Wrong. Come on.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

That's a new friend.

[Amy Landecker]

Oh, my God.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

What do you have? It seems like you're just not open to letting new people into your life.

[Amy Landecker]

Not strangers on the street, which is a sad state of a friend.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

A stranger is a friend. You haven't walked the same pace as yet.

[Amy Landecker]

Anyone who would do that is so creepy. I don't want them to be my friend.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Well, it seems like you're wrong, and I need you to just kind of.

[Amy Landecker]

I'll let you be right, and I'm

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

letting you be wrong. That's very generous of you.

[Amy Landecker]

Okay, thank you.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

All right, this next one is from a listener named Sarah Jane. Gift or a curse. People who put their bare feet up on the dashboard.

[Amy Landecker]

Oh, I do that. It is disgusting, but I do it. I mean, here's the thing. No one's eating off the dashboard. No one's putting their face on the dashboard. No one's really even touching the dashboard with their hands. So why is it so bad. I mean, it's kind of bad. Cause you get, like, your little toe prints on the glass. That's not a great look. But there's something really great about the sun when it, like, hits your feet, you know, and you got your, like, toes up there. So I have to say, what's the opposite of the gift?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Gift or a curse?

[Amy Landecker]

It's a gift.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Correct?

[Amy Landecker]

Yes.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I don't see any people who have a problem with this. I just don't. What's the problem? Who cares?

[Amy Landecker]

Why does that feel so good to be right? It's gotta be my codependency.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

It is. It's entirely. You've gotta work on that.

[Amy Landecker]

I've gotta work on that.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Work on that. Off podcast. No, I think this is people who have an issue with this. They've created the problem in their mind. The dashboard is for nothing else.

[Amy Landecker]

Now, I will say Bradley likes to put his shoes on a table at home. And I think that's not good.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

That's wrong. That's dirty.

[Amy Landecker]

Yes. I mean, it's a very strange habit. Like, we'll just come down and they'll be like, shoes on the tiny.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

No, no, no, no, no. That's the only place you can put your feet on. The table is in a waiting room of, like, an oil change place.

[Amy Landecker]

Yes. Right. Where it's already, like, filthy.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

But at home, the shoes should be off before you get to a table you can put your feet on.

[Amy Landecker]

I agree.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

But on the dashboard. Go for it. You're living your life. You're relaxed.

[Amy Landecker]

Live your life.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yeah. You're hanging loose.

[Amy Landecker]

I got my toes done yesterday. They're silver.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, that's a great color. That's a real aluminum.

[Amy Landecker]

So this would look kind of good on a dashboard.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Very cool.

[Amy Landecker]

I would put them here, but I'm not a bad guess.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Thank you. All right, you've gotten one right so far. So. Okay. And this is the final one. This is from a listener named Cameron Gift or a curse. Google search AI summary.

[Amy Landecker]

Oh, boo. No. First of all, do you know that the guy who made ChatGPT. I'm sorry, I know it's not a political podcast, but he's the biggest donor to the Trump administration. AI is going to take all of our jobs away. Like, no. And I know. I have really progressive friends who are like, it's coming, and it's a great tool. And I'm like, I mean, okay, I did use it for one thing.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

To write your book.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah. I was trying to write a card around something difficult, which was that Someone had lost someone dear and a baby had been born. And I was a little bit like, how do I write that card?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Right?

[Amy Landecker]

And I actually did ask.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, boy.

[Amy Landecker]

And it did help. I mean, this is what sucks. Is it? It's helpful, but we're all gonna die, like, soon.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

It's, like, kind of helpful.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah, it's a good launching pad. I mean, it's interesting because I was actually like, I'm working on a script with some people, and we were having a little note session Saturday. It was so fun. And we're just, like, going through this thing and coming up with jokes, and it was just such a blast. And I thought, is this the kind of thing that, like, no one's gonna need us soon? It's horrifying.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Absolutely horrible.

[Amy Landecker]

And it is. It was a sort of. It's a sort of bigger idea. It's not like indie small. It's like. And I feel like those are the most susceptible, right?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, absolutely.

[Amy Landecker]

Cause some of those are written really bad and people still love them. So studios don't care. Like, it's a piece of shit, but everybody watches it. But how many Netflix rom coms need to be made that are mediocre, but they make a lot of money and no one can.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

So people are dumb and have no taste.

[Amy Landecker]

I mean, AI is going to be able to, like, whip out, like, procedural scripts soon.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I hate to hear that.

[Amy Landecker]

I don't know what's going to happen, kids, but I guess there's always been these points in history where everyone thinks everything's going to fall apart and it all sort of figures its way out.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

This one feels.

[Amy Landecker]

Actually, we keep saying that. It's like. Yeah, but if you read, like, 1984, this one feels particularly frost.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

This one is. We're watching it.

[Amy Landecker]

When you don't have reality anymore and there's no truth, it's a little. It's a little challenging.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yeah. Is it worth all of these things so you can have a card written for you?

[Amy Landecker]

Yes. No.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

That's the biggest.

[Amy Landecker]

I literally deleted it. I'm not. Although it doesn't really matter because if you use Google, it's using AI anyway. So what are we gonna do?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Well, I'm trapped. It's such.

[Amy Landecker]

Have you stopped using Amazon? No.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

It's horrible.

[Amy Landecker]

I know. Me too.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

It's absolutely horrible. I feel like we have to do something where it's almost like everyone should commit one friend in their life to stop using these things so that we

[Amy Landecker]

can all just ride on their back of doing it. Right.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Well, I Feel like almost like a chain letter where it's like, I would get you to stop. You would get another person.

[Amy Landecker]

I see what you're saying. Pay it forward, sort of.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Right. I don't know how we get out.

[Amy Landecker]

I did order it. So I was staying with my friend in New York, and she was away at her. She has, like, an upstate home, and she got a notification that Amazon had been dropped off. And she was like, I didn't. Did you order Amazon? And I was like, oh, yeah. And she's like, Amy. And I was like, oh, God. God, yeah. Like, I'm not supposed to do that. Good for her. I know. So she really did stop.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Wow. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I don't know what the solution is.

[Amy Landecker]

And then, you know, you come down also to the fact that all those people who work, you know, not the company, he needs to pay them more. That's the biggest problem.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Right.

[Amy Landecker]

He needs to treat his employees better. But all the, like, subcontractors that also use Amazon, you're also sort of punishing them. It's like a very tricky thing.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh. I mean, we are. Are all truly trapped.

[Amy Landecker]

Yes, we're trapped.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Basically powerless.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah. They got us. There's, like, five people who own everything, and we are. I mean, even to speak out. Right. It's like, oh, well, then, you know you're never gonna work again.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Right? Yeah. There has to be some sort of regulation, all this sort of thing. I just don't. It's both easy to stop using it and almost impossible.

[Amy Landecker]

Almost impossible.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

So it's a.

[Amy Landecker]

It's like when you get a remote control on your tv and then someone. That remote control is evil. You need to get up and turn the TV dial.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I'm not going to.

[Amy Landecker]

No one's gonna do that. And I was born before remote controls. Like, it was not a big deal, Right.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

To stand up.

[Amy Landecker]

It really wasn't a big deal to stand up and change the channel. But God knows once you get that convenience, you're like, what are you talking about?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Right. So I guess it's just this thing where you don't quite entirely give up, I think.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah. You try to minimize.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Try to minimize and maybe make small

[Amy Landecker]

changes and then, like, find small businesses for the things you can do. Yeah, I do do that. I do do that.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

And then just feel an immense amount of guilt every waking hour.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah, well, sure. Always.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

But you're saying, cursed. The Google search AI summary.

[Amy Landecker]

Cursed. Now what's the right answer?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Cursed.

[Amy Landecker]

Oh, thank God.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

What if I came out as a tech investor?

[Amy Landecker]

I'M gonna have to get up and leave and protest. I'm done with this interview.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I'm a Google employee. Oh, absolute curse. These. Those AI summaries are particularly infuriating because they're just forced on you, by the

[Amy Landecker]

way, they're also, like, wrong.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

They're frequently wrong, and they're very confident. So, like, I've seen. I fortunately, am somewhat aware of how technology works, so I kind of was ahead of the game, knowing that they just send you the wrong things. But I know plenty of people who will just read that, and then that's what they're believing. And frequently, it's just totally wrong information.

[Amy Landecker]

We had a big discussion around whether the kid in bed in Bad Bunny's super bowl halftime was the kid who had been arrested by ice, because that went on the Internet immediately. And my stepdaughter is like, that is not that kid.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Right.

[Amy Landecker]

And his name was Liam, I believe. And, you know, and we were like, is it. And, you know, we're trying to rewind and look up the. And then I go, well, let me ask, you know, Google.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, boy.

[Amy Landecker]

And Google goes, yes, Bad Bunny brought. And then we realized how absurd that was of an idea that this poor kid who just got out of deportation would just show up at the super bowl halftime show because, you know, the first thing that him and his family want is a ton of attention. You know, that's exactly what you want when you barely, like, escape the claws of fascism. I'm gonna go on the super bowl show. And so, no, this little boy was him as a younger kid getting his. You know, he's an actor.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Sure.

[Amy Landecker]

But Google said it was Liam.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Any piece of information now that you think is true, you should find four different sources, very independent sources.

[Amy Landecker]

Well, there was this whole thing that, like, Trump called C Span yesterday that was going around.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

What was this?

[Amy Landecker]

Well, you know, he used to call. He used to call in and be this other guy.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

He just thinks everything is Howard Steel.

[Amy Landecker]

So someone called into C Span and was. Used the name that he used to use when he would call into a place. But I was like, why would Trump care about C span with AI, anyone can do that.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Right?

[Amy Landecker]

You know, and I want to get four confirmations.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yes.

[Amy Landecker]

And you know what else people do now is they like to throw something out there before it happens. Like, the Dodgers refused to go to the White. No, it wasn't the Dodgers. The Seattle Seahawks refused to go to the White House. And I'm like, yes, some guts. And that just wasn't true. That's just not true. And then, you know, it's like somebody threw it out there so that they might feel the pressure or something.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Right. And everyone's so ready for something to a piece of good news or whatever. They don't look into it.

[Amy Landecker]

They should have flares yesterday.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, that was a tough one. They should be ashamed.

[Amy Landecker]

Come on.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

That's shameful behavior.

[Amy Landecker]

I just want the lesbians on the other side.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yeah. And this is all post heated rivalry. Hockey was riding a real high.

[Amy Landecker]

Oh, my God.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

And now these guys have come.

[Amy Landecker]

Do you like heated rhyme?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I had a great time watching I

[Amy Landecker]

have my husband on episode. We just finished episode three last week.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, okay.

[Amy Landecker]

He's like, they're very good actors.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

They're excellent actors.

[Amy Landecker]

Yes.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Only six episodes long too.

[Amy Landecker]

I know.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Very easy thing to get to.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah, very. No, it's five.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Five?

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah. It's not even six. The cottage is five.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, wow. Yeah. So next season will probably be 400 episodes because of the success, but. And now they have a lot to clean up after this. Other behavior from the hockey players.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah, no kidding.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Good grief.

[Amy Landecker]

Good grief. What a disappointment.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Well, you got two out of three.

[Amy Landecker]

Okay. Well, that's not bad.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

That's not bad.

[Amy Landecker]

That's not bad.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

That's not the worst.

[Amy Landecker]

No, take it.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I think we should answer a listener question.

[Amy Landecker]

Okay.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

People are writing into I saidnogiftsmail.com, begging for answers. Will you help me answer something here? Let's see. This one says, oh, they didn't even address me or you. Usually they say dear Bridger or something. But this just gets into it. It says, I hate my sister in law, husband's sister's boyfriend. In parentheses, husband's sister's boyfriend. Does that make any sense?

[Amy Landecker]

I hate my sister in law's boyfriend.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Let's just leave it at that. Because the relative math I'm not working with right now. I hate my sister in law's boyfriend. My husband thinks I should have a conversation with him about keeping the peace, but I hate him and I don't want him around my baby, who is 18 months old. He also hates dogs. Red flag. And she has a dog.

[Amy Landecker]

I'm done. I don't even need to read anything.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

They almost broke up the day I had my baby. But made up while I was pushing my child into this world, I just

[Amy Landecker]

found all this stuff that I knocked off the shelf. Oh, my God.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Leave it alone. You're ruining. I really did.

[Amy Landecker]

I'm sorry. Keep reading. I apologize.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

You were sent by a rival podcast.

[Amy Landecker]

Jesus, Christ. I'm so sorry.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Okay, let's see, let's see. They almost broke up the day I had my baby. But made up while I was pushing my child into the world. They now have been living together for a of bunch about a year. How do I coexist with this terrible human in our lives? He also implied one time that my husband was going to kill him after they had a disagreement and never apologized for it. And my husband is acting chummy with him now for the sake of the family. The terrible boyfriend also just bought my husband a $250 watch. What is with this guy? Is he. Is he love bombing my husband? And that's from Marianne. I mean the layers of whatever is going on in Marianne's life.

[Amy Landecker]

I mean, I mean, look, once you say he doesn't like dogs, I'm like, we're done. We're absolutely done.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

What could.

[Amy Landecker]

And you know, you tell your sister in law, I'd love to figure this. So it's the husband's sister who's dating this dick? I guess is what it sounds like.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Okay. Yes.

[Amy Landecker]

And so basically you just go to holiday events. You don't do any special side gatherings. If you want to see, you know, if he wants to see his sister, fine. You say, I don't trust people who don't like dogs and we're done.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Right. And then the $250 watch, you know what you do? You let them.

[Amy Landecker]

You let them. You let them.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Mel Robbins.

[Amy Landecker]

That's what you do. You let them.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

She wanted to be able to demonstrate the philosophy in action.

[Amy Landecker]

That was a good question.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

And let this guy buy your husband as many watches as he wants.

[Amy Landecker]

Let them have their brain. But you do not get involved the

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

moment an affair happens.

[Amy Landecker]

Maybe match with love, as they say. Light and polite. Those are some Al Anon keywords.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yeah.

[Amy Landecker]

Light and polite. This guy will be gone and light and polite. And hardly ever.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Oh, and hardly ever.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Interesting.

[Amy Landecker]

That's my ad.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

That's a good ad.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

So you need to write a book.

[Amy Landecker]

Yes. I should write your, shouldn't I?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

This guy is gonna be gone in no time. Nobody likes him. And now he's been exposed on this podcast.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah. So like what is that no contact trend? Yeah, it goes on the no contact.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yes, the whole family goes. No contact. Get rid of him, Let him buy a few more watches, take him to a pawn shop, et cetera. Take advantage.

[Amy Landecker]

I don't think a $250 watch is that expensive. But is that just me giving away like my.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I think that's like, probably I'm a person who buys a $20 watch.

[Amy Landecker]

First of all, I don't buy watches, but I would imagine, like.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yeah. I think people buy, like, thousands of. Yeah.

[Amy Landecker]

Like, a watch is, like, $1,000.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Right. 250 is, like, a good watch.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

This is a $20 watch, and I love it.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Because I lose them all the time.

[Amy Landecker]

Why do you wear a watch?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Because in movies, I don't want to be able to look at my phone. If I'm in a movie theater, I want to be able to look at the time.

[Amy Landecker]

No, I thought, like, when you were acting in movies, I'm like, well, don't they have an opinion about your watch?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I make one demand. Anytime I book a role, I get to wear the watch.

[Amy Landecker]

I know how to wear this $20 watch.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I don't care that this is set in the 17th century.

[Amy Landecker]

No matter what I'm wearing this watch.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

This guy's gone.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Good luck, Marianne. Don't write back in.

[Amy Landecker]

Yeah. Oh, that's not nice to her.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Let me.

[Amy Landecker]

Okay.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Let me do whatever I want, whenever I want.

[Amy Landecker]

Absolutely.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Amy, I've had a wonderful time with you.

[Amy Landecker]

Me, too.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I've got my new soap. I've got my book.

[Amy Landecker]

You had the best time you've ever had.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I've simply had the best time I've ever had. Unfortunately, we're wrapping up the podcast for. And, I mean, how could I have a better time than this? You've ruined the show.

[Amy Landecker]

I'm ruined this episode. No, I see what you're saying.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

The entire series is over.

[Amy Landecker]

I was scared for a second.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

What if you just. That would be such a fun surprise for a guest to find out that this is the last episode.

[Amy Landecker]

No. Right. No. But I didn't know if, like, I don't know, you were in some sort of transition period. No, I'm glad that's not true. I know. I'm episode 300 and God knows what. Nobody cares.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

I think you're about 2. I'm probably 288 or something.

[Amy Landecker]

I want to know what my number.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Alice, do we know what the number is?

[Amy Landecker]

I want to know what my number is. 290.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

290. Wow.

[Amy Landecker]

Good number.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Start the countdown.

[Amy Landecker]

That's a good number.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

That's a solid number.

[Amy Landecker]

That's a good. I like. It's round.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Yeah.

[Amy Landecker]

It's not like, 92, right?

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

92. 290, 92.

[Amy Landecker]

That will always go down as the greatest episode of this podcast ever.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Mark it down. Write it down. Well, thank you for being here.

[Amy Landecker]

Thank you for having me.

[Host (Bridger Weiniger)]

Listener, the podcast is over. I don't know what else to talk about. Does that mean I can go to the back? Amy, that's the one thing that's not going to be allowed for the rest of the day is for Amy to use the restroom. But listener, you can use the restroom because the podcast is over. I love you. Goodbye. I said no Gifts is an exactly right production. Our senior producer is Ellis Nelson and our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Tolliday. The theme song is by miracle worker Amy Mann, and we couldn't do it without our booker, Patrick Cotner. You must follow the show on Instagram at isaidnogifts. That's where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see the gifts?

When I invited you here, I thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you got to come to me empty handed. I said no guils. Your presence is present enough and I already had too much stuff, so how do you dare disobey me?

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