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On November 13th of 2022, at 11:56am, police in Moscow, Idaho, receive a 911 call. Something is happening. Something's happened in our house and we don't know what. The call lasted for around 4 minutes and 11 seconds. And you can hear the distress through the phone line. Heavy breathing, crying, people on the other side of the line freaking out. The phone is passed around to multiple different people. The operator stating, okay, I need someone to keep the phone. Stop passing it around. Can I just tell you what happened? Pretty much what. What is going on currently? Is someone passed out right now? I don't. I don't really know, but pretty much at 4:00am Okay, I need to know what's going on right now. If someone is passed out, can you find that out? Yeah, I'll. Come on. Come on, Bethany. We have to go check, but we have to. Is she passed out? She's passed out. What's wrong? She's not waking up. Is she breathing? No. The University of Idaho located in Moscow, Idaho, would never be the same after that phone call. That phone call was the beginning of a case that would haunt the many families and many people for years to come. Hi, beautiful people. Stopping quickly for a quick intro. It's also. It just started storming. And the last time that there was outside noise outside of my little area where I record when it was dogs barking, if you recall, I was under the impression that with this microphone, you can't really hear the background sound, but you could hear the dogs in that one episode. So I'm keeping my fingers in my toes crossed, that you cannot hear the literal thunderstorm going on right outside. The rain is like barking at the window, not barking. You know what I mean? But if you can hear it, I hope it's like a relaxing background rain noise, like a little white noise almost, but hopefully not. Anyway, this is the one case that I would say you don't even have to be interested in true crime, which obviously, if you're listening to this podcast, you are. But when it comes to this case, every single person in the world knows about it. Everyone has heard about it. It was everywhere. I remember where I was when I started hearing about it and when everything was coming out and. And it happened in 2022. But even up until now, 2025, it. I feel like new information has kept coming out and out, and no matter how much we have, it feels like there's always something new. I think that it's over because of the guilty plea, which I hope for the families and the Friends and their sake. But today we are going to be doing a deep dive. This is the story of the Idaho Four. On Sunday, November 13th of 20 roommates Dylan Mortensen and Bethany Funke woke up together on the first floor of their house in Bethany's room. The night prior, all of the roommates who lived together in an off campus house in Moscow, Idaho, they had been out with friends, some together at one point, but then separated throughout the night. But in the middle of the night, something wakes Dylan up. She's scared, she's out of it. She doesn't really know what's going on, but something inside of that house does not sit right with her. Dylan grabs her phone, starts texting every single roommate in the house, but only one responds. Bethany. And she tells her to run downstairs to her bedroom. Dylan eventually does and the two of them keep trying to text and call, trying to reach the other roommates, but they just cannot get a hold of them. The next morning they wake up together and around 11:50am they call one of their friends to come over and help them out. Still, they don't really have much information, they just know. Dylan knows that she saw something weird last night and they can tell that something is wrong. A friend who lived across the street walks over. She brings her boyfriend, Hunter. Dylan and Bethany are still in the first floor of the house. They haven't gone to any other part of the house. They stay on the first floor until they go outside through the first floor, waiting for their friends to come over to meet them outside. Hunter walks inside the house first to go upstairs. Shortly after, the girls follow him to walk behind him. They're slowly going up the stairs when Hunter says get out and he tells them to go outside. Call 911 to report someone unconscious. The girls have no idea what's going on. Hunter is the only one that did make it up the stairs and that's all the information that he said. The 911 call comes from Bethany's phone. And if you didn't know what we know now, you would listen to that phone call, which a lot of people did, and be completely confused because it's clear that no one really knows what's going on and no one does apart from Hunter. Hunter. Hunter was the person who entered the house who went up the stairs. He directed the girls to get out of the house to protect them from what he had just seen and witnessed and walked into again so far that morning he was the only one to make it up the stairs to a higher level of the house. And he was the one to discover his friend's dead body. The body of 20 year old Zanna Kernodle. She was one of the roommates who lived inside of that house. One of Bethany's and Dylan's roommates, who they had been trying to text and call for hours, clueless that she was lying just the floor above, dead. She had been dead for hours. By the time Authorities arrive at 1122 King Road. Dylan, Bethany Hunter, amongst other friends are gathered outside, clueless and scared. They're standing outside quite a little bit away from the house. I believe they were specifically standing across the street, just waiting to hear something. In pure panic and confusion, the police show up and officers walk into a crime scene that would haunt them for years to come. Some of the body cam footage from the officers walking inside of that house has since then been released. And if you haven't seen it, it's haunting. You can see one of the officers cuss and then he talks to another one saying there's two looks like dead bodies. Officers continue walking through the house to clear it floor by floor. They go up to the third floor and one of them says, we have another, as in another dead body and then a fourth. Moscow 46 out. I think we have a homicide. What officers walked into was a quadruple homicide. Something that no matter how much training or experience you have, you cannot be prepared for, especially when you learn the graphic details and the conditions that the bodies were found in. It was morbid, it was haunting, it was gruesome, and it looked as if something completely evil had been inside of that house and within minutes destroyed so many people's lives. 20 year old Zanna Kernodle, one of the roommates, was found in her underwear in a sweatshirt on the second floor. She had suffered over 55, 0 stab wounds. She had fatal lacerations to her heart and her lungs and many defensive wounds. When the coroner talks about the stabs in court later on describing the injuries, she says they were more like tears than stabs because they were that passionate and that much force was used on them. On Zanna's bed nearby, her boyfriend, who had been spending the night there with her the night prior, Ethan Chapin is found also deceased, also killed by stabbing. He suffered a fatal stab wound to the neck which severed his jugular veins and artery. On the third floor were the two other roommates, Kaylee Gonzalez and Madison Maddy Mogan, who had been sleeping in the same room together. Kaylee's face had so much damage to it, done by what is believed to be the murder weapon that. That it's been described to be unrecognizable. She was stabbed more than 20 times, maybe more than 30. And she had injuries to her lung, her liver and her arteries. Maddie also had fatal lacerations to her liver and her left lung, also caused by a knife. And the kind of knife that authorities is believed to have been used. It's not a kitchen knife, it's not a steak knife. It's a knife that has been described to use by people in the military. Back to the crime scene. There were also no signs of forced entry, which was one of the things that stood out the most initially to officers inside of that house. 1122 King Road. It was three stories. It had six bedrooms, two on each floor. In the house lived the two surviving roommates, Dylan Mortensen and Bethany Funke. Kaylee Gonzalez, Madison Maddie Mogan and Zanner Kernodle. Kaylee Goncalves was 21 years old. She was a senior. She had actually recently moved out of the house. She was almost completely moved out because she was set to graduate early and had accepted a job in Austin, Texas. But she had recently gotten a car. And the reason why she was in Idaho to begin with is because she wanted to drive back and show Maddie her new car. Kaylee has been described as strong, tough, dedicated, and beautiful. Madison. Maddie Mogan was also 21 years old, also a senior. She was an only child, but she's been best friends with Kaylee for years. They were completely inseparable since the moment that they met. And they've been both described by both sides of the family members to be so sisters. And even though Maddie was an only child, Kaylee's older sister has spoken out multiple times about her and refers to her as her sister. Maddie Mogan has been described to be her father's entire world, her parents whole world, a little angel, and the greatest friend that you could ever ask for. Zanna kernodle. She was 20 years old. She was a junior. She was in the same sorority as Maddie Mogan, and she has been described to be one of the happiest, funniest people you could ever meet. Ethan Chapin was her boyfriend. He was also 20 years old. He was a triplet, and his siblings were also students at the University of Idaho. Ethan has been described to have a smile like the sun and also is one of the greatest people that you could surround yourself with. So as far as the floor plan of the house, Maddie and Kaylee's room were on the third floor. Dylan's room was on the second floor, but on the opposite side of the house as Zanna's room, which was also on the second floor. And. And Bethany's room was on the first floor. The morning of the crime, after officers cleared the house and taped it off as a crime scene, the two surviving roommates, as well as the other friends from their friend group, remained right outside of the house, still for hours, still completely unaware of what had happened inside of their own house. They knew that it was something bad, considering that the house was almost immediately taped off as a crime scene. And it wasn't only one room or one part of the house, it was the entire house. So they knew that it was something bad. Dylan knew that she thought she saw a strange man walking inside of their house last night. But apart from that information, they were not being told anything. Of course, they were all freaking out. They were talking amongst themselves, trying to figure out what was going on. And at some point, they realized that their best friend Zanna was gone. Because that was the person that Hunter saw when he walked upstairs. And he knew immediately that she was dead. There was no question about it, but they knew that Ethan had been spending the night there the night before. At first, they didn't know for sure, but the longer that officers stayed inside the house, the more it became clear that Ethan was also likely gone. And I want you guys to try and picture your friend group or you and your best friends standing right outside of your other friend's house, waiting to see what's happening, because I cannot explain. There is some footage of this in one of the documentaries. I want to say. Maybe it's the one on Amazon Prime. You can see them all standing outside. Some are covered in blankets. There are no words that can explain the gravity of how awful that moment was for them, how awful that day was, and how awful all of the following days were going to be to come. One of their friends called Ethan Chapin's brother, whose name is Hunter, saying, you have to come to 1122 King Road. Police officers are here. Something is going on. And Hunter's immediate reaction is not concerned. Because that house was known as the Party House. People were always in and out. It was not an uncommon thing for officers to be at that house, whether it was for noise complaints or whatever it was. Hunter was not concerned because this happened all the time. Not all the time, but often enough. But they tell him on the phone, no, you have to come now. And he does. He makes his way over there, and just as he's walking up to his friend group to all of the faces that he's the most familiar with, all of his best friends. He has no idea what's going on. And as he's walking up to the group, they look at him and think, shit, one of us is going to have to explain to him what just happened. Which one? They still didn't know what was really going on, but they knew that it was something bad. So Hunter walks up to them, confused, wondering why they woke him up to come and look at the house. And he says, what's going on? Where's Ithan? And they look at him and say, ithan isn't here anymore. What do you mean Ithan isn't here anymore? What do you mean? Where did he go? And they tell him, your brother is dead. We think Zanna and Ithan were murdered last night. What? Those words are so far out of what Hunter could have ever expected. And I'm sure that his entire book body went pale in pure shock. Hunter was the one to call their sister, the other triplet, Macy. And all he says is, you need to come to Zanna's. Macy is also confused, asking why? And Hunter says, just come, don't ask any questions. Have someone drop you off. And when she found out and she got there, she was told the same horrible news that would change her life forever. Hunter was the one to call their mom, Ethan's mom, still very much in shock, because how do you even begin to process something like that? And on the phone with his mom, their mom, the only words that he can get out are, they aren't here. Ethan's not here, Mom. Ethan's not here. And his mom is just as confused as Hunter was just minutes ago saying, what do you mean? What do you mean he's not here? Go get him. Where did he go? Just go get him. And Hunter just keeps saying, he's not here anymore, he's not here anymore. Until eventually he tells his mom through the phone, he's not on this earth anymore. At that point of complete and utter chaos, but also shock and silence, all of the friends outside the house were so focused and in shock about figuring out what happened to Xana and Ithan. Still not knowing for sure, but speculating that it took them a little bit to be like, hold on, where are Kaylee and Maddie? They weren't outside. They didn't come walking out. As soon as officers cleared the house, they weren't answering their phones. No one can get a hold of them. And all in unison, the friend group realizes that they must be in there. Too. And that since they weren't coming out, the only thing that that could mean is that they too were murdered the night before. Still, however, nothing has been confirmed. Still not knowing anything for sure. Jake, who is Maddie's boyfriend, calls Maddie's mom and says something is happening in Moscow. We think that there's been a homicide at 1122 King Road, Maddie's house. And we think that Zanna and Ethan are dead. Maddie's mom on the phone is completely taken aback, also in shock, but also completely unaware that her daughter was also inside of that house and that she was also dead. But immediately, Maddie's mom as well as her dad, they get in the car, they start making the drive to Moscow, thinking there has to be something wrong. Someone has had the wrong information. This can't be. There's no way. But it's going to be okay. We'll figure it out. We'll get to Moscow, we'll pick up Maddie and Kaylee, we'll take them out to lunch, and we'll get everything sorted out. Sadly, sooner than later, Maddie's parents would arrive to Moscow and get the same devastating news that their only child had been killed. Now, it's around 1:00pm Remember, the 911 call was made just before noon and the friend group is still gathered outside with no answers. And while they're sitting there waiting for officers to come and talk to them, all of their phones go off at the same time. It's an alert notification from the university and it says that the university is investigating a homicide on King Road. That was how all of their closest friends standing just feet away from that house, found out that their friends were dead. That is how it was confirmed to them, through a phone notification. And almost instantly, every single one of them broke down into tears because how could you not? Minutes after the first notification comes a second one. Four students dead, Quadruple murdered. For I have goosebumps. For the very first time, it was confirmed to them that all of their best friends, Kaylee Gonsalves, Maddie Mogan, Zanna Kernodle and Ethan Chapin, had been murdered. Authorities claim that they believe that all four victims were killed in the early hours of the morning on Sunday, November 13th of 2022. And they strongly believe that it was a targeted and isolated attack. After receiving the most earth shattering news of the loss of those four students in the next few days that followed, the two surviving roommates, in the middle of this mountain of grief that they were trying to navigate through with the victim's friends and families, they all Come together. They start putting their heads together, wondering all the same thing, the same big question, who would do something like this and why? A lot of the kids in their friend group actually end up driving themselves to the police station because they want to talk to authorities, one, to get their names cleared. Because, I mean, I can imagine when something like this happens to your best friends, what do you even begin to think? What do you even do? What's the first step? You don't want to believe that it was one of you, one of your friends who did something like this, but how could you really know? So they all go to the police station to get cleared. All of them also with intentions of trying to figure out what happened, trying to get more information from law enforcement, trying to figure out how they're going to go about this investigation, how they're going to navigate through. And by that point, the families of the four victims had also arrived in town, now facing the hardest thing that they would ever have to go through. The night of the discovery, most of the families, along with the friends and the two surviving roommates, they all decide to stay in the same hotel, just trying to lean on each other for support on top of being absolutely petrified to go back anywhere near the house on King Road. But anyway, they're all together, they're all talking. They start trying to connect the dots, hoping to be able to figure out something, anything. The night before November 12th was a Saturday night. Zanna and Ethan were underage, so they couldn't go to the bar. So they went to a house party. They arrived back home around 1:45am Kaylee and Maddie were 21. They ended up going out to a local bar. And on their way home, they stopped at a food truck in downtown Moscow to buy food before making their way back. Kaylee and Maddie arrived back home at approximately 1:56am the two other girls, the two surviving roommates, Bethany and Dylan, they had been home. They got home around one in the morning and had gone to bed. But even after retracing their steps, friends and family members felt so incredibly helpless because nothing made sense. Nothing was unusual the night before. Nothing stood out. No one stood out. They just could not wrap their heads around it, and rightfully so. And they just felt like they had no information and. But one person did. There was one person who saw something that night that nobody else had seen. Dylan Mortenson, one of the surviving roommates. Like I said, Dylan's room was on the same floor as Anna's room, so it was on the second floor. And in the early hours of November 13, Dylan woke up because she thought that she heard something. She peeked out of her bedroom door. She didn't see anything. But then she hears what sounds like crying. And then what sounds like a male voice saying, it's okay. I'm going to help you. Around this time as well, a security camera that was from a different house located less than 50ft away from Zanna's bedroom. That camera picks up audio of a dog barking. And then you can hear a whimper, and then you can hear a loud thud. And the dog barking was Kaylee's dog. Kaylee was the only one who had a dog, by the way. But when Dylan opens her door back up to look again, she does see something. She described seeing a male figure in black clothing, in a black mask, around five' ten or taller, not very muscular, but athletically built with bushy eyebrows. This shadowy figure, this man, walked right past Dylan and out the sliding back door. Dylan was terrified, definitely confused, not understanding what she just saw. Scared, in shock and nervous, she attempts to call all of their roommates. Bethany, Zanna, Kaylee, Maddie, and ethan. Actually, between 4:19 and 4:24, all calls go unanswered. She then texts Bethany, who lived on the first floor, saying that she thought she heard something weird, that she thought she saw someone wearing all black, and she was scared. They were Exchanging messages from 4:22 to 4:24 in the morning until Bethany texts her and says, come to my room. Run. Dylan runs downstairs to Bethany's room, and the two of them eventually fall asleep together there. The most important thing for law enforcement was finding their guy, because in the days following when they were still was still a lack of information. He was still out there somewhere. Luckily, all the university students had gone home early for Thanksgiving break, so they were all thankfully able to go home and be with their families and take time to process. Students were also given the option to finish out the remainder of the semester online, for obvious reasons. So mostly everyone had gone home. But that also meant that a lot of potential witnesses were now also home, out of town, not in Moscow. And so authorities needed to act fast. And they did. But they had to. They had no other choice but to find out whoever did this for three days, that I'm sure felt like the longest three days of a lot of people's lives. There was no press conference. There was no information from authorities. There was nothing. But of course, that did not stop the word from spreading like wildfire, because in what felt like overnight, this case was all over the Media. I remember when it came out, everyone was talking about it. I'm sure many of you remember. At the first press conference finally held, authorities again say that the deaths were a homicide. And for the very first time, they say that it was a homicide by stabbing. Since the beginning, the police chief announced that they were going to do every single thing in their power to bring Maddie, Kaylee, Zanna and Ethan justice. No stone was going to be left unturned, no lead was going to be left unfollowed. And there was going to be absolutely no world in which a thorough authorities were going to let this case go cold. Officers and detectives were often seen going back to the house, seemingly to collect more evidence because they were carrying things out of the house, such as mattresses, personal belongings boxes, and they were also seen at the property when they were overseeing the victims. VEHICLES GET TOWED so even though people were seeing them actively working on the investigation, obviously because they were present at the crime scene, they weren't saying much. And the air felt so thick and so tense in Moscow because there were so many unanswered questions. On the 7th of December of 2022, the cops release information saying that they are looking to speak to the owner of a white 2011-2013 Hyundai Elantra with an unknown license plate. They claim that they were looking for it because it was believed to have been in the area during the time of the homicides. That was the information they gave the public. Other than that, they didn't really say much. The public, of course, is confused. Students are terrified to go back to campus. And overall, it was a really, really scary, but also frustrating time in Moscow. What the public didn't know yet, but later finds out is that the cops had someone on their radar, someone that they had been looking into intensely behind closed doors. December 30th, six weeks and five days after the murder, 28 year old Bryan Coburger is arrested and charged with four counts of first degree murder. Bryan Kohberger. What? Who is that? It was the first time that every single person related to the victims in any way, shape or form were hearing the name Bryan Coburger. Do you know who he is? Do you know who he is? None of them knew. Everyone's first initial reaction is, who is this guy? How does he connect the victims and, and how is he actually related to any aspect of their lives? So who is Brian Kohberger and what evidence did law enforcement have against him? Bryan Kohberger graduated with a bachelor's degree in psychology, and he also had a Master's degree in criminal justice. At the time of the crimes, he was one a PhD student at Washington State University. He was studying criminal justice and criminology and he was also a teaching assistant. Brian was raised in Pennsylvania with his mom, dad and two sisters. And his behavior towards girls since high school has always been described as odd. It sounds like when he was younger he experienced a lot of bullying for being quiet and different. But then there was a turning point in his life where all of a sudden he turned into the bully himself and in turn also became really lonely and isolated. So he was kind of this mix of a person who was. Didn't know how to talk to people, was considered to be really weird, really odd, lonely and isolated. But then also at the same time, he started bullying people himself. Weird guy. In his teenage years, Bryan Kohberger made several social media posts expressing his thoughts and emotions, which is, I will just say an example. And one of the things that he posted on social media, he wrote, as I hug my family, I look into their faces. I see nothing. It is like I'm looking at a video game. He also has several posts expressing his overall inability to be able to feel anything at all. And he would share thoughts of the way that he felt in his brain and in his head and he would say that it felt like he was just completely disconnected from reality. He explains in a post about how he is again incapable of feeling any remorse or any guilt, specifically saying that he, he has a hard time feeling anything after he's mean to his family members. And he also goes more into detail in other posts about depressive thoughts that he has had, delusions that he's experienced, and his feelings of disconnect towards society as a whole. One time at university, Bryan Coburger makes a Reddit post and it's very weird. It's titled Research Participation Needed. It was basically a survey asking criminals to describe the story behind their most recent criminal offense. He was putting in effort because he wanted to understand the thoughts and the feelings that criminals had while committing their crime. He wanted to know what they felt like while preparing for their crime. And to understand, he put questions on the survey like, did you prepare for the crime before leaving your home? Before making your move? How did you approach the victim or target? How did you choose that victim or target over others before leaving? Is there anything else that you did? Brian Kohberger also had the opportunity to study under Dr. Catherine Ramsland. Dr. Ramsland is a psychologist, but most importantly, she's an expert in serial killers, which that Detail of this case stands out to me so much. And I honestly would love to talk to her about how she felt knowing that she was teaching, she was his teacher for a while, and then finding out that he went on to commit this crime, ugh, it makes me nauseous. Brian also has been always described as wanting, not being, wanting to be the smartest person in the room. He also put so much effort into making sure that every single thing that he said sounded intelligent, but not in like an oh, I'm so educated way, in a very arrogant way. He carried around this purposeful demeanor that showed that he thought of himself as being better than everyone, as in, I can get away with anything because I'm a mastermind, I'm smarter than the police. So if I want to commit a crime, I'm going to commit a crime and I'm going to get away with it. He also one time talked to a neighbor about the crimes and told that neighbor that he felt that the crime committed was a crime of passion. And he also made sure to mention that he didn't believe that the cops had any leads, which is so, so bold. Another really eerie thing is that while the investigation was going on, he was studying teaching at Washington State University, and obviously so many people were talking about the crime. And one of those people is Brian Kohberger. It was a big topic of conversation in his classroom and it was like a topic that he wanted to discuss as if he wasn't the person that everyone was looking for. It's unbelievable. He definitely felt zero remorse. If there's any way to feel negative remorse, that's what he felt. And throughout the entire time, my guess is up until he was arrested, he truly thought in his gut that he was going to get away with this. At the time of his arrest, he was staying at his parents house in Pennsylvania and he was arrested there at 3 in the morning. Shortly after the arrest, Brian's public defender comes out and makes a statement on behalf of Brian stating that Brian was eager to be exonerated and looking forward to resolving these matters as soon as possible and clearing his name in court. How did that go for you, Brian? So let's talk about some of the evidence that law enforcement had been gathering behind the scenes to build up this case against Brian that the public had no idea about until after the arrest. The car, that white Hyundai Elantra, that car was seen passing the victim's house several times the night of the attack. So specifically around 4 in the morning, which is when the crimes took place. And when the cops first said that they were looking for this car, it didn't sound like we're looking for this car because we suspect the person who drives it. It just sounded more like we're hoping to talk to the owner because maybe he has information that may be able to help us out. Brian Coburger drove that exact kind of car. And when cops had been looking an eye out for this car, he was actually pulled over, I want to say twice. Once was with his dad in the car. And the body cam footage, this is the one clip of the entire thing initially that stood out to me is his face when he gets pulled over. He has dead eyes. Like it really truly feels like he isn't human. And you there's nothing going on behind the eyes. Next, the public wasn't sure if there was any DNA evidence. We thought that there was no DNA evidence, but it turns out that, that the cops had found a knife sheath at the crime scene next to Maddie's body. Knife sheath is like a knife cover and on the single button of the sheath they found a single source of male DNA. Then they were trying to get Brian's DNA before the arrest to try and see if they can match it, but it was proven to be a little bit hard. However, cops were watching him like a hawk and they were outside of his house when they saw him walk out, start deep cleaning his car around 4 in the morning wearing gloves and, and then he went over to throw things away in the trash, but threw them away in his neighbor's trash can. So as soon as officers that were watching him saw that after Brian was gone, they run up to the trash can, they pick up a Q tip that Bryan Coburger had thrown away. They test it and the DNA matches almost 100% to the DNA that was found on the knife sheath. Another massively incriminating detail is his phone records. They showed that Brian had been in the area of the victim's homes at least 12 times before the victims were killed. Most of those times were in the middle of the night. His phone also pinged in the area on the actual morning of the murders. But between the hours of 2:47am and 4:48am There was nothing, no location. He had turned his phone off. 28 year old Brian Coburger was arrested on December 30th of 2022. His trial was set to begin in early August of 2025 this year. But only days before his trial was set to begin on June 30th of 2025. It was announced that Bryan Kohberger had agreed to a plea deal, pleading guilty on all counts against him and he would be sentenced to four consecutive life sentences. The reason why he wanted to accept this plea deal, I imagine, is to avoid having to face the death penalty. On July 2, Bryan Coburger pleaded guilty to four counts of first degree murder and one count of felony burglary. Judge Steven Hippler asked if he, quote, killed and murdered each victim, naming the four students. And Coburger sat there with dead eyes and said nothing other than yes. Maddie Mogan's family, I think, felt the plea deal was fair. They called it the best outcome possible. Ethan Chapin's family also said they were, quote, in support of the plea bargain. Kaylee Gonzalez family, however, they were disappointed with the plea agreement because they still had so many questions. What was the motive? Why did he do this? Where was the murder weapon? They wanted the answers to all this, understandably so. They felt as if the plea deal, quote, represented an easy way out with no answers, end quote. On July 23rd of 2025, he was sentenced to four consecutive life sentences in prison without parole, as well as another 10 years for the burglary charge. He was also ordered to pay a combined fine of $250,000, $50,000 per account, and $20,000 combined in restitution, 5,000 per victim. And it was at his sentencing hearing that the students families confronted Bryan Coburger and gave their very emotional victim impact statements. And if you have not heard of them, I highly suggest you do. The one that stood out to me the most was Kaylee Gonzalez, older sister, Olivia. Her statement, like, I just got goosebumps again. I listened to it probably 30 times, and I would read it off to you because I think she did an incredible job. And I don't even know how you begin to have the kind of strength that not only she has, but all the families involved. But you definitely need to listen to her speech. And I would read it to you, but I want you to hear it in her own words because of the amount of strength coming from her own words. You have to go listen to it right now. Bryan Coburger is where he belongs, and I hope to never hear his name again. That is all I have for today's episode. Thank you guys so much for hanging out with me today. I hope you're having the best day. If not, go do something to make it the best day, make somebody happy, and I will see you in my next video. Massive kiss on the forehead to every single one of you. Thank you guys so much for tuning into this episode of I wish you were here. As a reminder, you can listen to this this episode any way you get. Your podcast video version is also available on YouTube. Love you.