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How are you?
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So we're doing something a little bit different for this week's episode. You guys might hate it, and if you do hate it, please let me know and I'll never do this again. But as some of you may know, I recently got two videos taken down from Tick Tock in regards to the right Tyler Robinson preliminary hearing that happened this past week, as well as Candace Owens theory on what happened to Charlie Kirk. They got taken down for community guidelines. Here's my surprised face. All right? But the one thing that I don't like, the one thing that I don't appreciate is when I spend days, perhaps weeks, on a video and it gets taken down so fast. And you guys know what I Talk about on TikTok. I have over 300 videos, probably reaching 400, every single one of them being about a devastating one, heartbreaking, graphic, horrific story. So when a video of mine gets taken down, which I want you guys to know, the only videos that I've ever, ever had taken down are in regards to Mr. Jeffrey Epstein or these past two in regards to Tyler Robinson and Charlie Kirk. And something in me, it fires something up inside of me because why are you taking my videos down? Why just those two topics do you not want me to talk about? I don't like it. It doesn't sit right with me. Anyway, point. Point being I spent days, days, days on both of those videos. And I hate for so much research and content to go to waste. So what I'm going to be doing in today's episode is I'm just going to be playing the two TikTok videos, okay? I have them on my phone, on my computer. I don't want them to go to waste. I spent so much time and effort and I feel like it is important for you guys to hear that, to hear both of those videos. So I'm just going to put both of those videos on here so they can live on YouTube and stay on my podcast forever and ever. But, but that said, obviously the audio quality is not Going to be the best. When I film TikTok videos, I just film on my phone, which is why I'm saying that you guys might hate this. However, I've never done this and I thought, why don't I just try it out and see if you guys hate it, Let me know. I will never, ever do it again. But yeah, it's gonna. It's gonna be different because the audio is not gonna be good. So just let me know if you hate this. I know it's not ideal, but neither are my dick dog videos getting deleted. Okay, so I'm going to play the Tyler Robinson video first and then I'm going to put the second one about Candace Owens theory second. Another thing, I filmed the Tyler Robinson preliminary hearing video when it was just starting. The preliminary hearing I am 99% sure is now over. So along with giving me your opinions about this, let me know if you want me to do another video or another podcast episode. Just really diving deep into this entire situation, going through every single thing that was revealed or not revealed in the preliminary hearing. What has been proven to be true, what has been proven to be a lie, what has been proven to be whatever the case is. Let me know if you want me to go deep into the preliminary hearing and what we can expect at trial. If that's something that you're interested in, I will dedicate an entire podcast episode about that. And we could just go into everything a little bit more in detail and so on and so forth forth. So, yeah, thank you guys so much, by the way, for listening to this podcast. If you do, it genuinely means the entire world to me and I love every single one of you guys so, so much. That's it. Let me know your thoughts, opinions, and feelings about this entire thing and I will chat to you in next week's episode. In the meantime, of course, I will be over on Tick Tock. Okay, Love you guys.
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Tyler Robinson is the alleged person responsible for Charlie Kirk's assassination. And if you wanted to spend the rest of your time on this earth
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looking into this, could.
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Because there's just that much information and different viewpoints, etc.
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Etc.
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Regarding what happened here online. What I'm doing is giving my best shot at compiling information, that is public information that you can all find on the Internet, into one video in the hopes of making this a little bit easier to understand. That said, I'm not a lawyer, you're not a lawyer. Fact of the matter is that we don't know what took place that day. So everything that I'm saying in this video is alleged and everyone is innocent unless proven guilty in a court of law. So the first day of the preliminary hearing in the Tyler Robinson case just took place yesterday, July 6, 2026. The entire point of a preliminary hearing in a courtroom is to determine whether or not there is sufficient evidence for a case to proceed to trial. In Utah's criminal justice system, a preliminary
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hearing is a legal checkpoint, meaning that
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it has to happen in order for a case to move forward. Tyler Robinson has been charged with the aggravated murder of Charlie Kirk, felony discharge of a obstruction of justice, witness tampering, and commission of a violent offense in the presence of a child. He has not yet entered a plea. The hearing that began yesterday is expected to last five days, from July 6th to the 10th. Charlie's parents, Robert and Catherine Kirk and his widow, Erica Kirk, were in the courtroom yesterday for the first time since the case begun. Donald Trump Jr. Was also present. Tyler Robinson's parents sat several rows behind the Kirk family. And of course, Tyler Robinson sat between his attorneys at the defense team table where his wrists were shackled to a chain around his waist. And again, the sole question that needs to be answered is, is there enough evidence, enough probable cause to justify putting this person through a full trial? Yes or no? It's very likely going to be a yes, meaning that this will go to trial. Tyler Robinson is 23 years old now. He was 22 years old on the day of the crime last year. He is the accused. The case is formally titled the State of Utah versus Tyler James Robinson. But important to note that last year, the court officially designated Erica Kirk as the victim representative case. So she is representing Charlie because, of course, he's no longer here. So again, the hearing is structured not to lay out the complete arguments of both parties, but for both the prosecution and the defense to say, look, this is how much evidence we have. We do have enough to find him guilty in trial. Vice versa. The defense can say, here is the evidence that we have. We do have enough to try and say that he's not guilty in a court of law. The preliminary hearing is also when evidence
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can be presented if either side wants
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it to be dismissed and AKA not used in court. And it's also, I believe, when new evidence can be brought forward to be submitted to be used in trial. Because of that, we start to get a little bit of a better idea of what kind of evidence has been submitted and a better understanding of what exactly it is that both sides plan to argue when this case eventually does move Forward now. In Utah specifically, a preliminary hearing can have a second purpose in which the judge needs to evaluate whether the prosecution's argument has enough reasonable substance to make a crime death penalty eligible. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty against Tyler Robinson. That means that this hearing is just not about whether there is enough evidence to go to trial or not. It is also about whether the state can keep the death penalty on the table. And it sounds like they are going to be able to. And just a quick recap in case you need it. Last year on September 10, 2025, 31 year old Charlie Kirk was holding a campus debate event at Utah Valley University in Utah Top that was meant to be his first stop on what had been announced to be an American Combat Tour. More than 3,000 people showed up to the event to watch him speak and the event was held outdoors in the courtyard of UVU's campus. At approximately noon, Charlie began speaking and debating with students. The debate portion had just begun when at 12:23pm a bang was heard. Charlie was struck in what looked to be his neck by a bullet fired from the roof of the Losi center building, a building approximately 142 yards away from where he was. He was in the middle of answering an audience question when he was hit and the scene erupted into chaos immediately. Officer Christopher Bagley testified in, quote, yesterday, quote, a lot of people were screaming, standing up and starting to run in all different directions, end quote. Charlie Kirk was then carried by his team to an SUV and transported by private vehicle to a hospital where he was pronounced deceased. The autopsy has not been released to the public and in fact, in court yesterday, the judge approved to have it submitted into evidence, but also approved the that it would not be published neither in the courtroom nor viewable by any camera. So we're never going to see that. But David Hull, who is an officer with the Utah Department of Public Safety, testified yesterday that the medical examiner's report ruled Charlie's official cause of death as a gunshot wound to the neck and the manner of death as homicide. Back to the scene. The day of the crime, Officer Christopher Bagley testified that he went up to see the Losey center rooftop and according to him, what he saw was an area where it appeared that someone had been lying down with a direct sight line to where Charlie Kirk had been sitting. He described what he found as a sniper pad, also stating that he also found a screwdriver on the rooftop, a shoe print on the grass and scuff marks on the sidewalk below. In other words, he's saying he thought he found the area in which the person was when they fired at Charlie and the path in which they fled. As part of the evidence, we also know that the prosecution plans to present surveillance footage they say confirms an individual running across the rooftop top jumping off the building and fleeing campus into a nearby neighborhood. They claim that individual was Tyler Robinson.
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The person who fired at Charlie, gathered
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up his weapon, jumped off, fled at some point, discarded of his weapon in a wooded area nearby before then leaving the scene in a wooded area near campus. Investigators later allegedly found the suspected weapon used a rifle with a mounted scope and wrapped in a dark colored towel. The weapon does belong to Tyler Robinson. It's been confirmed that it matches the description to one that was gifted to Tyler Robinson by his grandfather. So it is, is okay. And I said that it was later found because it was not found the day of the crime, despite trained detection dogs searching for it. Trained detection dogs are considered amongst the most reliable detection tools available to law enforcement. Studies have placed their accuracy anywhere from 90 to 95% under controlled conditions. They are used so often because nine times out of 10 they are going to be able to sniff out a weapon that has been used. Yet somehow they did not find the weapon in the wooded area near campus the day of the they found it the day after. But moving on, authorities stated that the weapon had one spent bullet casing inside, meaning that it had been fired once. And they also found two or three unused rounds. And the prosecution states that something that made these bullets unusual was that someone had carved messages into each one of them. Prosecutors would later use that to say that Tyler Robinson had texted his roommate slash romantic partner, Lance Twiggs, referring to these engraved messages as part of his confession. But we're going to circle back around to that now. At this point, you may be wondering, well, who is Tyler Robinson anyway and
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where did he come from?
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Tyler Robinson grew up in a middle class family in Washington in Utah, which is approximately three and a half hours away from Utah Valley University. He was allegedly raised Mormon by his parents, Amber and Matt Robinson, alongside his two brothers. His mom is a social worker and his father runs a company specializing in kitchen countertops. Tyler graduated from high school in 2021 with a 4.0 GPA. He then got a scholarship to attend UC Utah State University, and he did, but for only one semester. He then decided to enroll in an electrical apprenticeship program at Dixie Technical College. And at the time of his arrest, he was in his third year and living in an apartment with his roommate slash romantic partner, Lance Twigs. He had no prior criminal record that we know of, but allegedly he had developed what investigators described as an obsession with Charlie Kirk in the period leading up to that day in September. Now, let's talk about what the prosecution is claiming to be true in terms of the timeline of events that they believed happened on the day of Charlie Kirk's public assassination. The prosecution plans to argue that on September 10th, Tyler Robinson sent a message to his roommate slash romantic partner, Lance Twigs, that read, quote, drop what you're doing. Look under my keyboard. Lance Twigs allegedly did and allegedly found a handwritten note left hidden that read, quote, I had the opportunity to take
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out Charlie Kirk, and I'm going to take it.
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Lance allegedly then texted Tyler Robinson, saying, what? You're joking, right? And now these messages, they are not timestamped. Don't ask me why, because I have the same question, but they're just not. However, allegedly, they took place after Tyler did it, after he went through with it. Tyler allegedly texting Lance directly, saying, quote, I'm still okay, my love, but I'm stuck in Orem for a little while longer yet. Shouldn't be long until I can come home, but I gotta grab my rifle. Still, to be honest, I had hoped to keep the seat secret till I
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died of old age.
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I'm sorry to involve you, unquote. Lance says you weren't the one that did it, right? Tyler I am. I'm sorry. Lance. I thought they caught the person. Tyler no, they grabbed some crazy old
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dude, then interrogated someone in similar clothing.
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I had planned to grab my rifle from my drop point shortly after, but most of that side of town got locked down. It's quiet, almost enough to get out, but there's one vehicle lingering. Lance. Why?
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Tyler?
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Why did I do it? Lance. Yeah. Tyler. I had enough of this hate hatred. Some hate can be negotiated out. If I'm able to grab my rifle unseen, I will have left no evidence going to attempt to retrieve it again. Hopefully they have moved on. I haven't seen anything about them finding it. Lance then asks him how long he's been planning this, to which Tyler responds to by saying, about a week or so. In that text exchange, Tyler also talks about how he's worried that he left fingerprints, how he has to leave the weapon in a bush where he changed outfits, how the weapon was left wrapped in a towel, how he wished that he could have gone back to get it before they could find it. And again brings up the engraved bullets and how that would really be telling if they found the weapon they would be able to connect that to him. So he goes into detail, okay, about his plan, how he executed, and his movements after the fact. And he ends that conversation with, quote, don't talk to the media, please don't take any interviews or make any comments. If any police ask you questions, ask for a lawyer and stay silent. Tyler also allegedly posted to a Discord chat saying, quote, hey, guys, I have bad news for you all. It was me at UVU yesterday. I'm sorry for all of this.
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Unquote.
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So the prosecution is saying, boom, we have a written confession, case closed, and we're going to come back to the defense's argument on that. But for now, they're saying, look, see, he's confessed. But not only that, we also have surveillance footage that shows that he did do it. But, well, actually, we don't have surveillance footage of him actually doing it, but we have one witness, one singular witness out of the thousands of people who were there, who saw a person on the roof, AKA where Tyler Robinson would have been, AKA he's obviously the one that did it. This is what the prosecution is saying. They're saying one person saw a person up there, didn't see them actually use the weapon, but this footage shows that it was Tyler and that he was up on the rooftop. When they're arguing this, they're basing it on some specific pieces of footage, such as the morning footage that allegedly shows Tyler Robinson arriving on campus. Cameras captured a man arriving at UVU at approximately 8:29am in a gray Dodge Challenger. The man is wearing a plain maroon T shirt, light colored shorts, light colored shoes, and a black hat with a white logo. Investigators say that this is Tyler Robinson arriving roughly. What is that?
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Four hours before the crime.
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At some point after arriving, the man on camera then changes into darker clothing. Then there's the rooftop footage in which cameras captured a person running across the roof of the LOSI building in the moment immediately after Charlie was hit, leading then into the escape footage where allegedly that same person is seen jumping down from the rooftop, landing on the ground below, and fleeing on foot along the edge of the campus parking lot, across the road, and into a nearby wooded
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area where the weapon was later found.
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The shoe prints and the scuff marks on the sidewalk that Officer Christopher Bagley testified yesterday in the courtroom that he saw would be consistent with someone dropping from that exact location. So those pieces of surveillance footage were obtained by authority authorities, and pictures of them were put out into the public
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in the immediate aftermath.
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Tyler Robinson's father sees this Allegedly, he recognizes his son. Not only that, but he also recognizes the weapon description matching the one that he knew that Tyler had. So he confronts him. When he is confronted, Tyler Robinson then allegedly implies to his parents that he was the person responsible. And within 33 hours of the assassination, he was getting driven by his father to the Washington County Sheriff's Office in, in Utah to turn himself in. He was then transferred to the Utah County Jail. Eleven days after the crime, Erica Kirk, Charlie's wife, gets on stage and she publicly forgives Tyler Robinson, saying, quote, my husband, Charlie, he wanted to save young men just like the one who took his life. Our Savior said, father, forgive them for they not know what they do. That young man, I forgive him. I forgive him because it was what Christ did and it's what Charlie would do. End quote. So to recap, because I'm throwing a lot of information at you, the evidence that the prosecution has or says that they have to prove that Tyler Robinson publicly assassinated Charlie Kirk in front of thousands of people is of course, the weapon itself discovered in the wooded area near campus and confirmed to be his. The DNA evidence. Authorities have said that DNA consistent with Tyler Robinson was found on the trigger of the weapon, on other parts of the weapon, and on the towel used to wrap the weapon. Then there's the engraved bullets. And you have Tyler Robinson allegedly texting Lance about these. Also, the one that was used allegedly was found on Charlie's person, which makes sense. You have the surveillance footage of the man seen fleeing the sea. You have the physical note that he allegedly hid and told his roommate and romantic partner Lance to go and find that red. Drop what you're doing. Look under my keyboard. But perhaps most importantly, you have Tyler Robinson's own confessions in, in detail, written to Lance Twigs. Now, let's break down what the defense is not liking about this and how they're looking at this case, because you hear all of that and it is easy to say, wow, case close, put him behind bars. But then you learn additional information and things begin to look not as clear cut in regards to the DNA found on the weapon. That is Tyler Robinson's weapon. His fingerprints are on it, but so is the DNA of up to five or more other individuals. We don't know whose. But that was gifted to Tyler from his father and it was originally his grandfather's, who is a hunter, meaning that it's been passed down through the family, AKA it is entirely expected that multiple family members would have handled it over the years before it eventually got to Tyler. Let me say that again, there are five or more sets of fingerprints found on that weapon. That is a detail that I feel like not enough people are talking about it. Next, there is that whole thing of Officer Christopher Bagley finding Tyler Robinson setup on the roof where he fired from. So can we see that? Christopher Bagley on the stand yesterday says, no, sorry, actually, my body camera died just as I got on top of the roof and found that. So, no, can't show you that doesn't exist. Okay. Next, the engraved bullet and matching the one that was found in the autopsy directly to the weapon to prove that Tyler Robinson's weapon was used that day on Charlie because no one actually saw him do it. So that needs to be proven. So somehow they could have proven that it was used that day if they would have tested Tyler Robinson for gun residue powder, because without a doubt, that would be on him if he did use a weapon. But they just decided not to test for that. So that's out. Anyway, at the beginning, they were claiming that there was an entire bullet found on Charlie and kept his evidence. Then at some point, it switched from the entire thing to now only being just fragments. Well, a judge unsealed an ATF report stating that the ATF could not match that to the weapon because when it hit, it hit bone on impact and it broke apart into different pieces. Therefore, the results of a match, the thing that would have without a doubt proven that that exact weapon was used was deemed inconclusive. And the defense says, well, the prosecution actually cannot prove that my client's weapon was fired. And this part I'm about to tell you next, this part comes from Candace Owens and something that she discovered and spoke. Spoke about on her show. And I want you guys, when I'm talking about this, put any personal opinions aside that you may have on any of the people involved and just focus on the evidence. Because I'm trying to speak just about the evidence. Because anyway, in a report, there's a line that reads, quote, regarding the firearm evidence, the defense has been provided with an ATF summary report which indicates that the ATF was unable to identify the bullet recovered at the autopsy to the rifle allegedly tied to. To Mr. Robinson. But in that same report, they state that because the ATF was unable to match it, the FBI is now going to try, quote, the state has also indicated that the FBI is in the process of conducting a second comparative bullet analysis as well as a bullet lead analysis. But these analysis are not yet complete. So in simple terms, the prosecution is saying we cannot prove that Tyler Robinson's weapon was fired. But using a comparative bullet analysis done by the FBI, we are still trying to prove that it was was used. Candace on her show pointed out, and I confirmed, you can Google this yourself. But a comparative bullet lead analysis. CBLA is a discontinued forensic technique that used chemistry to link a crime scene bullet to those in a suspect's possession. A technique that is a discontinued technique. A technique that they stopped using back in 2005, more than 20 years ago, because it was deemed unreliable and because it was putting innocent people in prison. That technique that was proven wrong, that was proven to not work, is the one that the prosecution says that they are going to be using to try and find Tyler Robinson guilty. Okay, take that for what you will. Apart from that, you might still be thinking, well, they have a written hidden note that Tyler Robinson told Lance Twiggs to find that red. I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk, and I'm going to take it. Written confession. There it is. So the defense says, where is that note? Can you show us that note? Can you show us the note that you found that allegedly our client wrote? The prosecution says, well, no, it's been destroyed. Yeah. So it's not. Yeah, it's not here. It's not anywhere, actually. It's destroyed. Okay, interesting. Well, then what about the text messages that you are claiming that our client wrote as a written confession to his roommate's slash romantic partner, Lance Twigs? Can you please show us evidence for that? The defense says, can you tell us how you have them, where you found them? How did you get them? What server did they come from? Are they dated? How did you pull them? When are they dated? What device did they come from?
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Can you tell us anything?
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So we know that these text messages are real. And the prosecution says, no, no, no can do but trust, they are real. So then leading up to this preliminary hearing, the defense is like, well, you're not giving us much. The prosecution is saying that they have evidence, but they are not willing to provide proof on how or where or when or where they found it, which they're supposed to do. So the defense knows how to defend and what they're working with, but they're just not willing to do it. So the defense is probably thinking, okay, well, we're not getting much from you guys. Everything that we are requesting is being denied. But at least at the preliminary hearing, we will get to question and examine Lance Twigs, Lance Twiggs, who is arguably the biggest witness for the prosecution, who has the most incriminating evidence, AKA those confession messages from Tyler Robinson himself. So, yeah, we're looking forward to speaking to Lance Twiggs, but no, because then the judge ruled that Lance Twigs would not testify in person. During the preliminary hearing, the defense submitted a request to force Lance to testify in person, and the judge denied it, saying that the defense could just wait until trial to challenge anything that they wanted to. So there's that. Later this week, they are going to
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play a pre recorded video in court
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in which Lance Twig states that Tyler Robinson confessed. But I mean, it's pre recorded, so like, what are you really going to do with that? It's not like you can't ask any questions. Oh, and as far as the surveillance footage that the prosecution plan to use to show that Tyler Robinson had been on campus, I think it was something like four times that day. First of all, the defense is saying it's so blurry and his face is half covered, so how can you even really see for a fact that it was Tyler? But either way, David Holt testified yesterday in court that he viewed the footage, but the judge did not allow that evidence to be admitted because prosecutors had it altered by zooming in at places and drawing red circles around items of interest. So the prosecution has to submit the unedited version of that footage if they do want to use it as evidence, which it sounds like they are going to do later this week, if not today. There's also the fact that for whatever reason, the prosecution took took a million and a half years to give the defense different items that they asked for. For example, Charlie Kirk's autopsy report was completed September 16, 2025. It was not given to the defense until November 13, 2025. The autopsy photographs were taken September 10, 2025. They were not given to the defense until March 18, 2026. To conclude, the defense is bamboozled for many reasons, but one of the biggest ones being that the prosecution claims to have solid evidence against their client, but they are not willing to say where or how they got it, therefore leaving the defense to feel like they cannot dispute it because they don't have it. So that's a small recap and a small update.
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Today is day two of the preliminary hearing.
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It's taking place in Utah and There are only 14 seats in the courtroom reserved for the public. Yesterday, Charlie's family, as well as Erica briefly walked out of the courtroom twice when graphic photos of the crime and of Charlie were being showed. They walked out of those parts because they would be incredibly difficult for anyone to see. But they did return and to Conclude. The prosecution called law enforcement witnesses yesterday to testify, but that was kind of that for now. Over the remaining days, the prosecution plans to present the full body of physical evidence, including photos and most significantly the pre recorded testimony of Lance Twigs, which is expected to cover the confession. Note the text messages and Twigs account of what Robinson said.
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Exactly.
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The defense plans to call three forensic experts to challenge their evidence and conclusions. And when we hear that, that might be the clearest preview yet that we will have on what the defense strategy will look like at trial. At the conclusion of the five day hearing, the judge will then rule on two questions. Whether there is sufficient probable cause to send Tyler Robinson for trial for aggravated murder and whether the death of penalty is still on the table. If the judge finds that there is enough, which is highly likely, Tyler Robinson will then be formally arraigned and enter his plea at a separate hearing. A trial would then be scheduled. But given how much there is to this, that trial is probably still so many months away. Two things I want to say before I end this video. One, I kind of want to do a series on this entire thing because believe it, I'm sure you do believe it if you're keeping up with any of this. This is just the tip of the iceberg. I kind of want to do an entire series on Tyler Robinson and his case. Could do so many videos on Erica Kirk, don't even get me started. Kind of want to do an entire video on evidence and what has changed slash been inconsistent in regards to that. And then I kind of want to do a video on Candace Owens theory of the mic. So let me know if you guys would be interested in that. Second thing. I know this is likely going to be a controversial video. I know everyone has a personal opinion on everyone or anyone that could be involved in this case. I tried to format this case on it being centered around Tyler Robinson because personal opinions decide on any of the players that could be or could not be involved in this. I feel like what I want you to realize with this video is the possibility. I'm not saying that he is innocent. I'm not saying that at all. I just want you to consider the possibility that an innocent person could be given the death penalty right in front of our eyes. And that should make you feel disturbed. But I'm eager to read this comment section. I'm gonna be right in the comment section as soon as I post it. Let me know your thoughts, opinions and feelings about this entire thing. And yeah, thank you for spending time with me today. Hope you guys are having the best day. If not, go do something to make it the best day. Make somebody happy, happy. And I will see you in my next video. Massive kiss on the forehead to every single one of you.
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Yesterday I did a video explaining the
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ongoing case of the State of Utah versus Tyler Robinson, the man accused of Charlie Kirk's murder.
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And I touched on some pieces of evidence that are being presented that people
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of the public have the right to question because one plus one equals two.
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But the way that everything is playing
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out, it seems like it might not be that straightforward.
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And it begs the question, well, if not Tyler, then who?
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Who could possibly be behind wanting Charlie Kirk murdered?
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Because the way that he was, was murdered.
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It was extremely public, in front of thousands of people. It was televised, it was recorded.
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To a lot of people it felt
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like his murder was supposed to be some sort of statement. And for all I know, Tyler Robinson could very well be the person behind it. But today I want to talk about a theory that would suggest that he is not the mastermind behind it after all.
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Now, I can do so many different videos on so many different theories because
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there are a plethora of them. But today we're only talking about one, which is Candace Owens theory that it was Charlie's wife, his best friend, friends,
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his co workers, the people that he
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trusted the most who allowed or played some sort of part in making sure that his murder happened. That said, I'm not a lawyer, I'm just a girl. I don't know anything and I'm not claiming to. I have no way of proving anything. I'm also not telling you what you should think. All I'm doing is sharing public information that anyone can find on the Internet.
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Everything that I'm saying here is alleged
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and everyone is innocent unless proven guilty in a court of law.
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Again, not saying that any of this
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is true, just explaining a hypothetical theory
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that is floating around the Internet Internet.
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So very quickly, for anyone who might not know, 31 year old Charlie Kirk
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was a right wing political activist and
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the co founder of Turning Point usa, one of the most influential conservative organizations in America. Candace Owens is a conservative commentator, podcaster
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and political commentator who has built one
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of the largest independent media platforms on the right. Charlie and Candace were close.
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They did a lot of events together. They spent a lot of time in
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their careers together, both operating in the same space and sharing a spot similar audience.
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But then Candace spoke out about how
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some of her viewpoints were changing, pointing
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out things that she did or did
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not agree with, creating public tension and a lot of controversial conversations.
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She ends up getting fired from the
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Daily Wire, which is a media company, in March of 2024 and the two sort of have a falling Out. Candace Owens also has public disagreements and more controversies and more fallouts with different people in their world. And she goes off and kind of focuses on doing her own thing, focusing on her own individual independent podcast. I don't know them obviously. I actually had never once looked at or heard anything about them really until after Charlie Kirk's murder. So I don't know what their relationship was like. But what I do know is that Candace Owens felt that something was off in regards to Charlie's murder. She started asking questions, looking at things a little bit closer, and she has now landed on the belief that this was an inside job.
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So what has been put out to
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the public is that 22 year old Tyler Robinson murdered Charlie Kirk at his event on September, September 10th of 2025 at UVU by firing a singular gunshot from a roof of a building approximately 142 yards away from where Charlie was sitting. Candace Owens says absolutely not. She believes that what murdered Charlie was actually his road wireless microphone that was clipped on his shirt, explaining that she thinks that he was wearing it that
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day, that it went off in such
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a way that was and did look like a gunshot. And she's saying that if that were the case, it would answer a lot
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of questions and make sense of a
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lot of things that would not make sense sense otherwise. It would also explain all of the lies and inconsistencies that have come from a lot of people, most noticeably Charlie's own wife, Erica Kirk. So let's run through some of those. First and foremost, you may be wondering, well, what would be the thing that would make a mic go off? Candace's answer to that is something called PETN or petton, which is one of the most powerful and sensitive high military grade explosives known. She argues that his mic could have been rigged with that, pointing out that him using a second microphone, apart from
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his handheld microphone that he has always
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used at public events, was a new thing. Charlie was wearing the RODE wireless microphone that day. Weirdly enough, it was clipped onto the inside of his shirt rather than the outside. And she points out again that that mic was something that he had only recently started to use.
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And you may be wondering, well, if
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it was rigged, wouldn't it just blast
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and go absolutely everywhere?
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Like, how would it be possible for it to go off only in a targeted direction? Candace Owens explains that by it being something called a shaped charge, which is an explosive device precisely designed to focus its energy into a narrow specific point or direction rather than it scattering in all directions.
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Think of it like a firework it
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goes off into a specific direction before going everywhere. You may be asking yourself, would the injuries caused by that be enough to end someone's life? The answer is yes, very much so. A quick Google search states that pet and used in a shaped charge is, quote, extremely hazardous and capable, capable of causing fatal injuries, unquote. Candace also References YouTube videos made by people completely unrelated to anything involving Charlie Kirk who have done experiments on these sorts of things or who have just tested things for educational reasons or out
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of curiosity, I guess.
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And people on the Internet who are familiar with this do seem to believe that the sound made by Petton would be a similar sound to the one that would be heard by a gunshot. So if that were the case, the next reasonable question would be, well, the mic itself would then display verse into a bunch of different little pieces. Right. So where did those go?
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When explaining that, Candace brings up and
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puts pictures on the screen. Photographs showing the inside of the SUV that was used to transport Charlie Kirk in the immediate aftermath to the hospital. So when he was shot, they carried him straight into a vehicle. And in the photos of inside that vehicle, you can see little pieces of what looks like glass or black plastic scattered all over the floor of the vehicle, but specifically in the area that Charlie would have been lying across. Right. That is not a question. You cannot argue that there are not little pieces of black scattered all over the floor, because there are. And Candace says that initially she considered the possibility of it coming from something else, say, for example, someone shattering their sunglasses. She looks into it, realizes that sunglasses wouldn't break or crack in that way because of the way they're made. Sunglasses are made specifically not to crack in that way so that that doesn't happen and someone gets hurt by getting a ton of broken pieces of plastic
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inside of their eyes.
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But according to her, what does make sense would be those being little pieces of that rode microphone. Someone in her comment section then suggests that she checks to see if any of those little pieces on the floor have any white on them, because that would be from the white logo of the road mic. So she zooms in and what do you know? Little white pieces on some of those little black pieces. She zooms in further and even believes that one of the white little pieces of undoubtedly looks like the white USB
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icon that would be found on a road microphone.
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She then goes further into studying the way that Charlie Kirk was carried by his team from the crime scene to the van, pointing out that in the videos of it, it kind of looks like Charlie is being held Tightly by his shirt. She says that they're not really caring or paying attention to holding on to his neck or his head where his injury was. Rather, they're primarily holding on to his torso and his shirt. Her argument for. For that is that the people that were carrying him would have been in on this pan if this was an inside job. So they could have been worried about those little pieces of plastic scattering all over the floor. So they were paying attention and bunching up his shirt to sort of hold them in. That car, by the way, was deep cleaned and shortly after put up for sale.
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That leads us into Charlie's white shirt
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that he was wearing when he got hit. If the mic theory was true and the mic was inside of his shirt, not only would there be little pieces of fragments off the mic mic on that shirt, but also explosive residue, Residue that would not be visible to the human eye, but residue that would test positive if it was tested for. So where is the shirt? Well, Candace states that according to Charlie Kirk's personal head of security, who was present that day and was one of the people that rode with him to the hospital, his story is that he at the hospital to help the hospital staff, he got on top of Charlie and he cut off his shirt. Candace says, yeah, right. That would never happen at a hospital
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because they're not going to let just
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anyone get on top of a patient and cut off their shirt. Hospital staff would do that. So her belief is that Charlie's team did cut off his shirt, but before getting to the hospital, so that there would be no chance that it would be tested for anything.
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She believes that by the time they
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arrived at the hospital, Charlie was not wearing a shirt. She also points out that, conveniently, the security cameras that would have captured Charlie arriving at the hospital were not working. Charlie's team has also stated that as
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soon as they got to the hospital,
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they all changed into scrubs because they were dirty from the crime scene. But Candace's belief is that they changed into scrubs as soon as they could to get rid of their clothing, because that would also have explosive residue on them. Charlie's shirt, by the way.
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Yeah, we don't know where that is.
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It's not talked about. We don't know. And on the topic of explosive residue being on different items, the other items that it would be on, if Candace's theory had any truth to it, would be, of course, the other microphone that Charlie was holding on to in his hand. His hand, as well as the necklace that he was wearing that snapped off of Him. Those two items were never tested for anything, and they were not kept as evidence. Where are they? Well, according to Candace, it was very, very, very important for the FBI to get their hands on both of those items, but not to take them back as evidence, but instead to hand them off to Charlie's wife, Erica Kirk.
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Erica, I think, said that she now
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wears that necklace at all times, and the other microphone is now displayed in a glass case because Erica said something along the lines of she needed it
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in order to be able to grieve or. No, I think she said it was
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actually something that she needed to help her mourn.
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Something like that.
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But now let's go back to the crime scene. The day of other things that Candace believes to be weird. The fact that they did not have
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an ambulance on standby when they usually
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did at every other Turning Point event, and the fact that there were trained detection dogs present who were there, as was routine according to her. Heard they were there that day, but that day they were kept away from Charlie. They were in a random field somewhere. And Candace states that she believes that
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this was done on purpose because the dogs would have been able to sniff
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out the explosive in that MIC within seconds.
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Another question.
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You're probably wondering if the MIC theory has any truth to it. That would also mean that explosive residue would be, of course, scattered all over the ground right below where Charlie was hit.
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And again, you wouldn't be able to
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see it because it would be like small little particles, but you, you would
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be able to test for it.
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So could they do that so that this theory could be proven wrong and then we can move on? Well, no, because Candace states that Charlie was murdered on a Wednesday. By Saturday, 10ft off that ground of the dirt was dug out, and by Sunday, there was a quote, unquote, pavement emergency called and the entire area was paved over. The guy who was brought in to do the paving did an interview and he spoke about how weird it was that even though when they called him
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for it, he said that he could,
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couldn't do it because he didn't work on weekends, they pressed him on it and said someone, quote, unquote, higher up.
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I think he said it was someone on the FBI absolutely needed the paving
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to be done before Monday morning. Another thing that Candace can make sense of is why in the immediate aftermath, within approximately five minutes of Charlie being hit, someone from Turning Point USA was seen removing a camera that had been positioned behind Charlie Kirk, AKA capturing what happened from a different point of view. She thought that it was weird that Getting that camera camera seemed to be of higher priority than helping Charlie Candice states that she asked TP USA for that footage. They refused to give it to her, ultimately ended up showing her a clip of it via FaceTime and then absolutely, in her own words, freaked out when they suspected that she recorded that FaceTime to the point that they called her husband over and over and over again to make sure that she did not record the footage. She also pointed out other inconsistencies and evidence, as well as poked holes in different people's stories. But all in all, that is her microphone theory explained. A very important thing to point out at the preliminary hearing this week. The autopsy confirming a gunshot wound to the neck has been formally entered into evidence and testified to under oath by law enforcement. So the official record of his cause of death listed in the autopsy and testified under oath is a gunshot wound to the neck.
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That is possibly the strongest public rebuttal
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the official record has produced so far to argue against the microphone theory. So make of that what you will. Again, I know I sound like a broken record, but I'm not saying that one thing is true and the other one isn't. And I'm not telling you guys what to believe. My sole point, truly, and making this video is to inform you of what both sides are actually saying happened.
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And I do think that I'm gonna
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end up making additional videos as the preliminary hearing for Tyler Robinson continues and eventually probably goes to trial. And I think it's beneficial to have. Have all the information to understand the different opinions, to then be able to decide on your own what you believe or simply just to understand the different conversations that are happening if that is something that you choose to do.
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Regardless, this is probably far from over, and I don't want to say about
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what, but someone is lying. There's too many stories, too many inconsistencies,
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too many things that are just weird.
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Weird. But that's that explained. Yeah.
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Let me know your thoughts on this.
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Let me know if you want additional videos in regards to the entire situation. Situation, or if you would just prefer that I cover what's being spoken about at the preliminary hearing. But I feel like to know what they're talking about, you kind of have to know everything that's going on. I don't know. That's it for me today.
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Thank you for spending time with me today.
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I hope you guys are having the best day. If not, go do something to make
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it the best day, make somebody happy, and I'll see you in my next video.
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Massive kiss on the forehead to every
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single one of you.