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Yeah, I'll give you a second because yeah, you did hear that correctly. Today we're talking about the case of Dylan Redwine. This is one of those cases that you hear and you literally cannot believe that it's true that it did happen and that a little boy's life was lost because of it. Before we get started, I do have to give my usual warning that we are talking about a child in today's case. If you think that listening to the this is going to or has the potential of harming your mental health in any way, shape or form, I completely understand. I've said this time and time again, your mental health is priority. Always has been, always will be. So if you think that listening to this type of case is too much, please skip this episode and I will see you in my next one. I mean it when I say please take care of yourselves. I love you guys. And yeah, also real quick, want to apologize. I didn't post the last couple of weeks I got married. If you're watching the video version of this, I have two rings on now instead of one very exciting time of my life. And to be so honest with you, I had a hard time filming not only podcasts but also TikTok videos throughout the week of my wedding. I genuinely could not get myself to do it because of obviously I was in the happiest time of my life. Still am. I'm still on the high of getting married, being newlyweds whatever. But I genuinely tried so hard to sit down and film a video and I couldn't because I had so many happy thoughts and feelings running through my mind and I just couldn't get myself in the headspace that I need to be in when I film videos like this. And I didn't really, if I'm being completely honest, want to. Obviously, talking about the these videos is hard and it's heavy and of course, it's a passion of mine. Right. It's obviously why I do it and I enjoy the community that we've built. I appreciate it and I love you guys so, so much. It just. It felt wrong trying to put myself in such a tough headspace when I was so happy and living out the happiest week of my life. The wedding was perfect. I. It was everything that I ever wanted and more. I genuinely could talk about it for days. I still am talking it because it was all of my dreams come true. But that being said, yeah, I do apologize for being a little bit mia. I am back now. We are not doing a honeymoon until later this year, so I'm back for a bit. I'm trying to pre film so that I can avoid taking breaks moving forward. But, yeah, just felt like I had to give a little bit of an explanation there because I know that some of you guys were like, what the heck? Where is this week's episode? So anyway, we have a lot to go through, so let's get straight into it. Welcome to this episode of I wish you were here. I'm your host, Michelle Cuervo. Dylan Nicholas Redwine was born on February 6th of 1999 in Denver, Colorado. He was the younger of two sons born to Elaine hall and Mark Allen Redwine, who had been married for 18 years before their divorce. His older brother Corey was seven years older than him. And that age gap in itself meant that Corey had become less of a sibling and a little bit more of a protector to Dylan. Don't get me wrong, the brothers had always had a friendship and a brotherhood as well. They loved each other very much. They were really close. But Corey was very much older brother. He was always driving Dylan to and from school, to and from sporting practices, looking over him, supporting him in everything and anything that he did. And all in all, he was the kind of brother that Dylan genuinely looked up to. Corey was someone who Dylan could so easily look at as a role model. And apart from being a great older brother, he was also a very good friend to Dylan. The family had lived in the Durango And Bayfield area of the southwestern area in Colorado, near the mountain community of Vallecito. Before Elaine moved herself and the two boys to Colorado Springs. After the marriage ended, Dylan absolutely thrived in Colorado Springs. He was the type of kid who made friends so easily. People were naturally attracted to him because he was so kind and genuine and friendly. He was also very athletic. He played sports with this natural ability that he had that would make you think that he had been playing those sports his entire life. And he honestly kind of had. He was kind, he was funny. And his friends described him to be the type of person that felt like sunshine. His mother said that he was a very empathetic kid, the kind of kid who hated people say bad things about his friends. And he was always the first person to step forward to defend them. He was 13 years old. He was full of life, he was full of dreams, full of hopes. And he was deeply, deeply reluctant to spend a week on vacation with his father in 2012. Before that awful night in 2012, the relationship between Dylan and his father, Mark, had been declining for some time. The divorce that his parents went through back in 2005, it was messy, it was tough, and it was hard, not only on both parents, but also on both Dylan and Corey. They both lived with their mom, Elaine, full time, but they did visit their father, Mark, on different occasions because of the custody agreement that they had landed on giving him visitation rights. And the boys didn't really have the best relationship with their dad. I'm not fully aware as to why, but I do think that part of it was because they just didn't like the way that he was. They didn't like the way that he treated their mom. Point being, they were far, far away from having any sort of healthy, happy, fatherly son relationship. In June of 2011, Dylan was 13 years old and Corey was 18. And because Corey was a legal adult, he no longer had to go to the court ordered visitations to see his father. Yet because of the fact that Dylan did, because he was still a minor, Corey would often go with as well, to be there for his little brother so that he wouldn't have to do it alone. So that summer, Dylan, Corey, and their father Mark got ready to go on a father's day road trip across the Midwest. On that trip, the three of them were sharing a hotel room somewhere along the route of one of their stops. And something happened during that stop that would change everything. Because at some point during the trip, while Mark was asleep in his hotel bed, Dylan was on his father's laptop, and he stumbled across some photographs accidentally. He didn't mean to, but what he found stopped him cold. On Mark's laptop, there were pictures. Pictures that showed Mark Redwine wearing women's underwear and holding onto a diaper and eating feces from that diaper. Those pictures were as disturbing as you're picturing them to be in your mind. If you aren't watching the video version of this, I'm putting up a picture on the screen. But they were awful. They were so uncomfortable, of course. And in about two seconds, they gave Dylan this disturbing, disgusting, shocking feeling. But as he was staring at those pictures, remember, keep in mind, he was in the hotel room with his father and his brother. And not knowing what to do, very quickly, Dylan did what he could to try and get Corey's attention. He struggled to do so without waking Mark up, But he eventually was able to wave his older brother over to him, and they both went into the hotel bathroom. Once they were in the bathroom, Dylan quietly locked the door, and he showed him what he had found on the screen. The pictures of their father wearing a wig, wearing makeup, dressed in a red bra, and eating feces out of a baby diaper. Corey, with the same kind of shock and disgust, then used his own cell phone to photograph the images on the laptop, saving copies for himself. The two of them then put the laptop back, put everything back as they found it, and they tried to go to bed. Corey would later say Dylan lost any reason to look up to Mark that day. He was pretty disgusted. It was something that he had tried to contain himself, End quote. But ever since that road trip, ever since seeing those pictures, for obvious reasons, that drifted any relationship that the boys had with their father even further apart. Fast forward to 2012, and it's November, and the holidays are quickly approaching, and Dylan Redwine is getting ready to go see his father for Thanksgiving. Dylan did not want to go on this trip at all. And he made that very clear, not only to his mother, other family members, to his brother, but also to his friends, Flat out telling them that he was absolutely dreading the trip and making it very clear that the only reason that he was going was because he had to. And this time, he would be going alone, without Corey. On November 18, Dylan took a flight to see his father from Colorado Springs to Durango county airport. When he landed, he texted his mother to let her know. And in his message, he included a little frowny face, his mom responding, telling him that she was very proud of him and saying, I miss you already. But Try and have fun. Mark Redwine was waiting at the terminal when Dylan landed, waiting to pick him up. And surveillance footage from that day shows Dylan and his dad together, Dylan wearing a black Chicago White Sox T shirt. That would be the last confirmed image of Dylan redwine alive on November 19th. So the day after Dylan landed at his dad's, his mom, Elaine, is at work when she receives a text from Mark asking if she knows where Dylan is. It read, elaine, I'm wondering if you've heard from Dylan. I have been trying to reach him all afternoon. Elaine, 300 miles away, has not heard from her son since the night before. And as you can imagine, she was extremely worried, extremely confused. As soon as she read that text from Mark, she replied within minutes, saying, it's really worrying when I'm seven hours away and I get a message like this from you. I have not heard from Dylan today. Where did you leave him? Or last see him? Mark then responded, saying that he had gone to town earlier that day and said that when he left, Dylan was fine, but he was now concerned because he had not heard from him since. And his side of the story, which he gave to investigators later that evening, was was this. Mark claimed that he had left Dylan alone at the house while he left to go and run errands. And when he returned, Dylan was gone. Honestly, that was his story. It was as simple as that. He claimed that Dylan must have walked off somewhere on his own, that he wasn't sure where, why, or how. The night before, according to him, Dylan had wanted to go over to a friend's house, but Mark had told him that he couldn't, and Dylan had apparently agreed that he would go the next day in the following. Early in the morning. That morning, Mark left the house, and phone records show that he was trying to text and call Dylan all day. But phone records also confirmed that Dylan had never responded. By the time that he got back home, he assumed that Dylan had gone over to his friend's house and he just laid down, he took a nap, woke up, and by that point, Dylan had still not yet returned. And with that, he officially reported Dylan missing to the county sheriff's office. That night, Elaine hall did not believe her ex husband for a single moment. She had a gut feeling, call it mother's intuition. She knew right away that something bad had happened and that he wasn't giving her all of the information. I figured he was safe because he was with his dad and. And I was devastated that nobody knew where my son was. Elaine drove the seven hours from Colorado Springs to Vallecito through the night with Corey and her new husband Mike, arriving at approximately 2:30 in the morning on November 20th. And as soon as they got there, their first stop was the police station. I don't think that I did sleep. I was stressed out because I didn't know where my son was. On the drive there, Elaine texted Dylan saying, quote, dylan, please be safe. Mom is here to come and get you. Now, I'm not sure if I mentioned this prior, but prior to Elaine, Mark had been married once to somebody else and he had children with her too. And the day that Dylan was reported missing, that ex wife called the police. She called to tell them about how Mark was a terrible person, about how he was abusive, about how once in an argument he had mentioned that he would kill his own children. And about how once in a different conversation, he had told her that if he ever needed to hide a body, he would do so in the mountains. That ex wife wasn't the only person who was suspicious of Mark because Dylan's mom, Elaine and his older brother Corey definitely were as well. Tensions were extremely high because this is a high stress situation and it felt like there were red flags coming up left and right everywhere, and we'll get to that yet. Of course, the main priority in the middle of everything remained finding Dylan Redwine. After Dylan was reported missing, search parties organized across the Vallecito area. Friends and family, including of course, Elaine, her new husband Mike and Corey held gatherings outside of Mark's house, holding signs, spreading out pictures of Dylan, talking about him every single chance that they got and asking anyone with information to come forward. Investigators searched through dozens of rugged areas across the northeast of Valcito Reservoir over the following months, using not only authorities on foot, but also dogs, ATVs, people on horseback, rope teams and helicopters. Michael, Elaine's new husband, hired a private sonar team to search through the Vallecito Reservoir. And he also coordinated gathering items from Dylan's home for DNA testing. While Mark Redwine, on the other hand, was also pretending to be involved in the searches, the FBI got involved. Volunteers all over the state of Colorado stepped up to try and help where they could. Canines surged through drainage ditches in the wooded hillsides. Divers surged through any areas of water that they felt they needed. Through the search, efforts to find Dylan were extensive, as they should have been because this was again a 13 year old kid. But no matter what they did or how long they searched for, none of it turned up Dylan. And throughout all of this, one thing stood out, which was Mark's behavior. Because Mark Redwine, Dylan's own father, participated in exactly one organized search for his own son. Other than that one search, Mark stayed home taking naps and relaxing, I guess. Yet Elaine's husband, Michael, who had been a stepfather figure to Dylan since 2009, was very clearly going above and beyond, doing absolutely anything and everything that he could to help. It felt like even some of the volunteers were more concerned that Mark was. Which is insane, because not only is Mark Dylan's biological father, but he was also the person who was supposed to be looking over Dylan. In the time that he disappeared, his barely teenage son went missing under his watch. Yet for whatever reason, concern didn't really seem to be present in him, if you want me to be honest. At least not in the way that it was in Elaine and in Mike and in Corey. At some point in the investigation, understanding that he needed to do absolutely everything in his power to be able to find his little brother, Corey decides that he needs to fill in his mama lane on everything. He needs to paint the full picture for her to be aware of everything and anything that could potentially help them in locating Dylan. So he decides that he needs to tell her about the pictures, about the pictures that him and Dylan found on Mark's laptop. And that is exactly what he does. He tells her about the pictures they found, but not only that, he also tells her that about a month prior to. In the middle of a texting argument that he was having with his dad, Corey revealed to him what they had found. He told him that he had seen those pictures and that Dylan had seen them, too. Now, that felt like it changed everything because it meant that the situation was now not just a little boy who disappeared because he didn't want to hang out with his dad. It changed into a kid is missing, and. And his father, the last person that he was with, is potentially a very, very dangerous person who would have a reason, a motive to want to get rid of Dylan. That on top of the suspicions that his ex wife has brought to light, in combination with the bad feeling that Elaine had, the bad feeling that Corey had about him, they were starting to raise real concerns about Mark's involvement in Dylan's disappearance. Taking a very quick break to thank today's sponsors. I've talked about this a lot. You guys know I have a lot of trouble sleeping. As you can imagine, Researching cases like this makes it harder for me to fall asleep at night because there's so many thoughts going through my brain. 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It was weird enough for authorities to notice in the way that he felt just a little bit too relaxed. He was a little bit too calm. He wasn't concerned. He wasn't really alarmed. He didn't have a sense of urgency at all. If anything, he gave off the feeling that he actually had not one care in the world. Now it's November 29th, and authorities are able to get a search warrant to search Mark's house. And when they do, there are six very important pieces of evidence that were taken from from his house because they had a positive reaction to luminol. In other words, they had a positive signal that traces of blood were found. Even though they couldn't be seen if you were just looking at whatever it was, they had the chemical reaction that Showed it. Those areas were at the house, obviously, on the couch, on the carpet, on a love seat, on the coffee table, and in an area underneath a rug, all in the living room. By February of 2013, authorities still didn't feel like they had enough information or enough leads or evidence to be able to locate Dylan. But I do think the more and more the time passed, the more it began feeling like they were now not looking for a missing child, Rather looking for human remains. That same month, Mark did an interview in which he spoke about Dylan. He spoke about how good of a kid he was, Making sure to mention that the relationship that they had between them was a close one, Saying specifically, quote, we were inseparable. Wherever I was, he was always right beside me. That, as we know, couldn't be farther from the truth. In that interview, he also, weirdly, made sure to mention that Elaine, the mom, was extremely jealous of the relationship that he had with Dylan, saying that him and Dylan had a bond that him and Elaine could never quite have, and that that was apparently a huge problem for her. He spoke publicly about how he needed Dylan to come back, he wanted him to come home, and about how he had absolutely nothing to do with his disappearance. By that point, Elaine had began to speak publicly as well, and she had been speaking out since day one. But now she wasn't really holding back her opinions and her thoughts and suspicions, now being open and speaking publicly about how she thought, as a lot of people did, that Mark knew way more than he was letting on. On February 26th and 27th, Mark Redwine went on the Dr. Phil show out of all places. I assume his idea to go on was to clear his name. But Elaine and Cory were also on the show. And looking at their dynamic between all three of them, it was clear to anyone watching, anyone listening, that they did not get along. Him and Elaine were not agreeing on anything. That was obvious. But it got to the point in which they were arguing almost. Corey flat out said that he thought that his father, Mark, was responsible. And yet, the entire time, Mark was holding on to his innocence. Dr. Phil at one point says, you know what? Since you are so eager to prove that you aren't hiding anything, how about we just clear everything up right here, right now? And how about we have you take a polygraph test? Mark says, okay, sure. So they get everything. They set everything up. They get ready to take it, since Mark has agreed to. But then right when they're about to do it, Mark says, actually, absolutely not. Thanks, but no thanks. I will not be taking this polygraph test. So things aren't looking good at all. And the more and more time went on, the searches to find Dylan continued. Yet authorities were not able to search quite in the depth that they wanted to because of all the snow on the ground. In order to do so, they, unfortunately needed to wait for at least some of that snow to melt. By June of 2013, seven months after Dylan disappeared, the snow had melted enough to reopen the middle mountain road. And investigators organized a new four day search of the area. On the first day, just north of a service gate on the dirt road, A searcher found a size 7 youth Nike Air Jordan shoe. It matched the one that Dylan was last seen wearing in the surveillance footage that they had of him. They also were able to find a pair of headphones matching Dylan's, Pieces of clothing matching Dylan's, and a sock. The following day, on June 26, a cadaver dog alerted to human remains. Bones were found and a tattered black T shirt with a white sock Chicago logo laid nearby. And heartbreakingly, a DNA match to a baby tooth that Elaine had kept confirmed what everyone feared. Their remains were confirmed to be those of Dylan Redwine. He had been less than 10 miles away from his father's house. Dylan's skull was not found Until November of 2015, approximately a mile and a half from where the rest of his remains had been recovered. The location of the skull separated from the body would later turn out to be a pretty significant point at trial. And investigators alleged that it had been moved there deliberately on purpose to make the scene appear consistent with an animal attack. But it wasn't consistent with an animal attack. It was, forensic experts would later testify, Consistent with a man trying to scatter evidence across a wooded area. The skull had visible evidence of blunt force trauma. In fact, a little bit above the left eye, There was a fracture that was just over 4 inches long. And Dylan's cause of death was then officially changed from undetermined to homicide. On that same day, Mark Redwine was publicly named as a person of interest. Authorities stating that it was, quote, based on evidence collected, inconsistent statements made by him and his behavior throughout the investigation. On July 22nd of 2017, Mark Redwine was officially arrested in connection to Dylan's death and he was given a one million dollar cash bond. He was arrested on suspicion of second degree murder and child abuse, resulting in death charges. The indictment stating that his motive were those pictures found on his laptop. The prosecution believed that Dylan finding those pictures meant that he had seen his father in a state that he Was never supposed to. He had seen images of his father in women's lingerie and engaging in a deeply humiliating and disturbing acts involving human feces. Their theory was that Dylan had discovered these photographs, as we know, before his death and was planning on confronting his father about them. They believe that on the night of November 18, 2012, Dylan confronted his father about those photographs and that Mark Redwine, described by his own ex wife and others as violent and volatile, snapped. What happened in that living room on the night Dylan's phone went completely silent at 9:37pm was prosecutors told the jury, a violent rage that ended with a 13 year old boy dead, his father sanitizing the crime scene and his body being carried up a mountain road in the dark. Mark Redwine's trial kept getting pushed back over and over again. In fact, it was rescheduled a total at 10 times. But finally, on June 21st of 2021, his trial begun, Mark pled not guilty and his defense was ready to give their side of the argument, which was plain and simple, that Dylan ran away and got attacked by an animal. The prosecution, on the other hand, argued that Mark murdered Dylan in his living room, decapitated him, mutilated him and ultimately then got rid of his remains. They brought up the blood also mentioning that cadaver dogs had picked up on the scent of human remains, not only at his house, in the trunk of his car, but also on Mark himself. In the courtroom, Elaine testified, Corey testified and Corey talked about when they found those photographs on his father's laptop and how that affected Dylan's view of him massively. On July 16 of 2021, after six hours of deliberation, the jury returned to the courtroom. Mark red wine stood as the first verdict was read. Guilty of second degree murder. He showed almost no reaction. And when the second verdict was read, guilty of child abuse resulting in death, he just closed his eyes. Outside of the courtroom, Elaine hall stood before the cameras and said which he had been waiting probably nine years since, say quote, Mark is going to be penalized for what he did to my son. And he knows as well as us that he was the one who took Dylan's life. She said that the entire process had been absolutely surreal. From the moment that Dylan disappeared to finding his remains, to sitting in a courtroom watching the prosecution lay out the last hours of her son's life. Quote, this should have never happened to my son. I think the prosecution did a wonderful job. It was pretty clear that the right verdict was given today. At sentencing, the judge addressed Mark Redwine directly. Before handing down the sentence. As a father, it is your obligation to protect your son and to keep him from harm. And instead of that, you inflicted enough injury on him to kill him in your living room. After the passion of whatever caused you to act, the way that you subsided, you didn't think about Dylan. You thought about yourself. You sanitized the crime scene. You hid Dylan's body, and you went so far as to remove the head from the rest of his body. End quote. He told Mark that the evidence against him was overwhelming. He said that he had trouble remembering a convicted criminal who had shown such an utter lack of remorse. And with that, he sentenced him to 48 years in prison for both convictions to be served concurrently. It is absolutely devastating. It is. There's not a word in the English language to be able to describe such a horrific crime, but also the motive of it is something that I. Yeah, I don't know. This case lives in my mind rent free. But that is all from me today. Let me know if you guys have heard of this case before. It's a pretty big case, so I'm sure that you have. But let me know if there's any information that you guys think that I missed or if there's anything that you think I should have mentioned that I didn't. But, yeah, that is all for me today. Thank you for spending time with me. Thank you for listening to this episode and for listening to Dylan's story. I hope you guys are having the best day. If not, go do something to make it the best day. Make somebody happy. And I will see you in my next video. Massive kiss on the forehead to every single one of you. Thank you so much for tuning into this episode of I wish you were here. 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