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Foreigning me today to discuss all of the White House correspondent ordeal debacle is my friend Jim Acosta, host of the Jim Acosta Show. Jim, so you were there. You were, were you in the ballroom at the.
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I was actually not at the dinner. So I, I didn't go because I said, you know, I, I don't want to be a part of this. I don't want to be part of anything where, where Trump was going to speak, the Free press and everything. So, you know, I thought about getting a table for me and my guys and we just said, no, let's not do it this year. Let's do it another year. So I was at the substack party where, you know, there was other stuff going on. But, you know, I mean, we can talk about the dinner itself, but to me, like, you know, this, this is yet another reason why this, this event should be scrapped in its current form. It should not continue like this.
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Well, let's get on to some pressing matters. Number one, I like to browbeat Cash Patel, obviously, because he's such an eas. So here is right after the shooting, and here is some video of Cash Money working as director of the FBI. Let's play this clip. So there he is, looking around, dazed, confused. Do you know, just.
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It's like James bond. It's, it's 007 right there. There he is.
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Exactly.
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Vodka martini, shaken, not stirred. And, and definitely shaken.
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And then here's this bit from the New York Times regarding Cash Patel that I thought was just fantastic. Pop this up.
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Yeah.
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Patel was seen being ushered out of the Hilton through the lobby at 10:02pm about 90 minutes after shots were fired, The Washington Post reported. His girlfriend, who was also invited by the mail, was hiding in a room holding hands with another man, but later left with Patel, the New York Times reported. And I don't know if you remember this, this tweet that Cash put out a few months ago that his girlfriend was a country music sensation and she had done more for this country in 10 lifetimes than anybody else. So I can only imagine how badly Cash is reeling from this reveal that Alexis is holding hands with somebody in a closet somewhere.
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Yeah, I, you know, that one, that one is, is, is strange. I mean, there was a lot of strange stuff going on that night. There was, There was Stephen Miller apparently hiding behind Katie Miller. They rushed out JD Vance before they rushed out Trump. I mean, this whole thing was a shit show. And the only folks who came out smelling like a rose, it seems to me, were the folks in the press. I thought, despite the fact that I didn't want to go to the event, and I thought it wasn't right that people in the press were having this event with Trump. I thought Weijia Jang, the head of the Correspondence association, handled it well, but, I mean, this was a shit show from top to bottom. I mean, first of all, why is it that the president, the vice president and the speaker of the House line of succession is right there? They're all in one ballroom that is not being guarded that well. Like, you know, you're just in a hotel where people can just check in. And apparently this, the shooter was able to check in without any kind of security. I mean, the whole thing is nuts. And that, I mean, I've been saying this for, I mean, since last year, that this, this event just needs to be rethought. Like, you know, this idea that the press.
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It's going to be in the new ballroom now.
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Yeah, it's going to be in the
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new 400 million dollar ballroom. He's already rethought it. Did you see in the manifesto of this shooter that he targets were Trump and some people in the administration, but not. And he referred to him as Mr. Patel. Have you seen that?
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I, I haven't. I don't know. But, I mean, Cash Patel, I mean, we were going, going into this weekend, we were hearing that he might be fired. So he, it's. Either he's going to be next or Pete Hegseth is going to be next. You know, this is, this is not a good week for Cash Patel or anybody in law enforcement. I mean, the Secret Service has let this happen again, you know, where somebody was able to, you know, almost pull this off. And so, you know, I mean, but this is the Trump administration. There is no bottom. There is no, you know, what's worse than this? You know, he's going to continue to. And, you know, people were saying, you know, in the press, oh, look how conciliatory he was being after this was over and all. And I'm like, And then it was like 24 hours later, he's already shitting on the press again with Norah O', Donnell, you know, on 60 Minutes.
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Well, and here's my thing. If the press has to look at the big boy who's acting like a big boy for 30 minutes, this is just such a low bar. And yeah, I think that the fact that the whole normalization of it, of everybody sitting there, because I was kind of watching it, and I just feel like Stephen Miller sitting in Cash Patel and all of these people who are dismantling democracy sitting there and everybody's playing patty cake like, oh, this is normal. And we're working with the president on this. When a lot of people, you know, you're yourself included, you get really serious threats when the president goes after you or those in his administration go after you. And this is not a guy that likes the First Amendment, and this is not a guy who likes the opposing political party he calls vermin. So I just, all of the optics of that really bothered me.
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But Jim apparently, yeah, apparently he was going to come in and trash the press. Apparently he was going to give this revenge speech. Caroline Levitt, apparently she was on Fox beforehand saying, shots are going to be fired tonight. Have you seen that video of her saying, yes. And I thought for once Caroline told the truth, you know, to me, you know, putting this to the side, you know, Trump trashing the press and so on. He al. They also had the Ellison table at CBS with Stephen Miller and Pete Hegseth and Brendan Carr was in the audience, the FCC henchmen.
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And there is not a bottle of vodka big enough that I can.
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That's why I was like, forget it, I'm out of here. I'm not doing this.
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Yeah, yeah. Okay, so Jimmy Kimmel filmed a skit parodying the White House correspondence dinner last week, two days before the dinner. And here was the clip. Play the clip.
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Our first lady Melania is here. Look at more. So beautiful, Mrs. Trump, you have a glow like an expectant widow.
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Okay? And now Melania is having a post mortem stage five meltdown because these people are only good at being victims. And Melania is calling for Jimmy Kimmel to be fired. Pop this up. First lady Melania Trump. Kimmel's hateful and violent rhetoric is intended to divide our country. His monologue about my family isn't comedy. So he goes on and on. She goes on and on. And this is just number one. We. Nobody thinks for a second, Melania, that you give a about Trump and his well being. I mean, that's just before we even get to the fact that she's worried about Trump. Jimmy Kimmel. So what do you think about this? I think that we've learned from scholars that fascist and authoritarians go after comedians first because they can't handle it.
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That's right. They can't handle it. I mean, that's what Putin did. He went after some Muppet show in Russia shortly after he came in. No. And then also, you know, Melania is talking about Jimmy Kimmel's hateful and violent rhetoric. Has she, you know, not that they're in the same bed anymore, but has she turned to her husband and said, you know, maybe knock it off. Maybe. Maybe don't tweet out that you're going to wipe out a civilization totally and go off on the press in terms like that? He does on a daily basis. This is the problem that we have right now in Washington, Jen, and it is that there, it's rules for thee and not for me. And, you know, on Saturday night, there were all these tweets from administration people and MAGA people. Maybe it's time for the left to tone down their rhetoric. Really? Are you serious? You know, give me a fucking break. And I just. These guys, this is the game that they've played for the last 10 years, and they're. And it works with their base. Somehow they. They rally around this. This monster who, you know, if this thing had not gone down the way it did Saturday night, was going to spend an hour to an hour and a half trashing the free press in this country. And then what were the members of the press supposed to do? Just sit there and take it. And you're going to have these cutaways of different anchors, like laughing along or clinking champagne glasses. This is why the public has had enough with this stuff. And they're watching folks like you and me, they've turned it off. They want independent media because they think this whole thing is a joke. And, you know, I find it also to be ironic, Jen, that nobody believes that this was, you know, an actual assassination attempt. You know, there are all these people now who think it's a conspiracy and there was something going on in the setup. And this is the cre. This is the environment that Donald Trump has created. Yeah, he's the.
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He's the conspiracy theory president.
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Exactly. And so.
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Totally.
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But here's the thing.
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Here's the thing. If somebody hooked me up to True Sermon, a polygraph, and said, do you think Trump and his administration would do something like this? I go, yeah, I could totally see them cooking this up.
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Yeah.
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But I am not a conspiracy theorist by nature. I think extraordinary claims require extraordinary, extraordinary evidence. But do I think that Trump is surrounded, that he's so depraved and he's surrounded by incompetent morons that they could up one night and go, you know what? We really need this ballroom. Let's run back Butler. You know, like, if Butler was staged, which I don't. I mean, I don't Know, but yeah,
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I don't think that was staged. I don't think this is.
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And I also kind of think Butler was.
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But here's the thing. These guys are so incompetent. They put war plans on a signal chat. You know what I mean? Like, they're right, these guys. This is. They're not sending their best, as Trump once said. And there, these guys could fuck up a one car funeral. And so I just, you know, how could they possibly, possibly pull off an assassination plot?
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I mean, you're probably right.
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Own guy, you know what I mean? Like, I just don't see it.
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Little faith in anything they do, anything they say. But the larger narrative, whether it's staged or not staged, is that we're living in an era where I think it went on for two weeks that people thought that Benjamin Netanyahu was dead and that Israel was AI ing him.
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Yeah.
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And basically with Trump, we have this weekend at Bernie's president where they're propping up whatever they're injecting into his hand. Hands to keep him alive. And they're propping him up all over Washington D.C. yeah. And so there's just no faith in the decency or integrity of any of these institutions. Government trust is completely eroded. But I want to, I want to move on.
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That's probably why they, you know, the plan was they were, they were, they were only going to have him come in, give a speech, he was going to go off on the press and then get the hell out of there. In part because he can't take it. He can't take a joke that he's not gonna be able to take it if somebody were to make fun of him. But the other thing is, they didn't want him napping in front of the press. Can you imagine if you would have fallen asleep like five times?
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Like that press, that White House where he's totally rem. I think it was Friday or Thursday. Some former colleagues of yours wrote books about Joe Biden. And you know what? You want to be a president, you're worthy of all the criticism in the world. You have to be a big boy. And you're running for the big boy seat and people are. Books call you incompetent. That's part of it. So Joe Biden put himself in that situation.
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Right.
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But I just don't see the same standard when it comes to maga. That image of him standing there, sitting there and he's completely asleep, almost drooling. Yeah, yeah. And you can tell he's like a stroke Victim. You can tell he's got, like this. I'm no physician, but, I mean, I asked chat GPT and put a picture in.
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It looked like grandpa needs a cookie and a Diet Coke stack.
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Exactly. Okay. So when I woke up Sunday morning, there were two big stories on my social media feeds. Number one, of course, was this quote unquote, staged or and. Or not staged and or shooting in Washington. The other one was somebody wanted to whoop Jim Acosta's ass at the Hampton inn in Washington, D.C. and I was just like, tap the vein. This is so good. So pop this up. Up. So here's Michael Tracy, and he says, still have no idea whatever went on with Trump tonight. Just know Jim Acosta threw a hissy fit. Jim, meet me in front of the Hampton Inn, 900 16th Street. And so I'm like, oh, my God. Dang. And then he goes on to pop this up. Pop up the next one, Kylie. Jim, I'm literally waiting for you right now, you piece of.
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Oh, my God. I saw all of this.
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Okay, so tell us what happened. What's going on? Why does this guy want to whoop your ass? Why is he calling you a pussy?
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First of all, Jen, you got to stop missing the substack party. Like, you got to show up for these things. You know, I need eyewitnesses. No. So I'll tell you what happens. So we're at the substack party. The whole shooting thing, of course, went down. So, you know, me and my team, we went off to, like, a quiet corner. We were doing a substack. I interviewed Norm Eisen and asked him what happened, and he was there in the room. And we're coming back into the main area, and I see this. This. This guy Michael. Apparently, he's, like, this goofy guy that trolls people up on Capitol Hill, and. And lately, what he's been doing is trolling Epstein survivors and reporters who work on the Epstein story. I don't know if you know about this. And one of the reporters that he, I guess, doesn't like is this lovely person, Julie K. Brown, investigative journalist for the Miami Herald. She's a. A badass. She basically broke the Epstein story. So I'm finished with the substack thing. I walk into the main room of the party or one of the main rooms of the party, and this Michael guy is almost literally on top of Julie K. Brown. He is bullying her. He is harassing her. He's chasing her around, yelling in her face, will not let her get away. And I basically saw this happening And I got up in his face and I said, hey, man, leave her alone. Enough. Get it. Get out of here. Get out of here. And he's like, you, you, Jim Acosta, you. And I said back to him, me, you. I said, why don't we step outside and. And deal with this? And he's, okay, fine. All right, fine. In the meantime, other I. I walk. I walk Julie out of the area, and I tell this guy from substack and the security people, like, this guy's out of control. You got to get him out of here. This is nuts. He won't leave her alone. And so finally they stepped in and escorted him out of the party. And I had to pull, like, I pulled Julie aside to kind of calm her down, and she was so upset. She's this very small person. She's so sweet, and she's so sweet. And, you know, first of all, my attitude is like, dude, pick on somebody your own size. Don't be such a bully. Don't be such an asshole. And I guess earlier in the day, he went to a vigil for Virginia Giuffre. He was trolling them. I don't know if you guys have it. He was trolling them.
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But he also left a sticker on his pants with the size first. I went to Virginia Group for A's memorial today, and who was there was M. Tracy, a man who has made defaming Gouffrey a full time job. And then Derek guy, he's the guy who's always commenting. It's really cool. Twitter. Yeah, Fashion count. He says someone needs to remove the size tag on M. Tracy's pleated chino. So what. What's the background on this Michael Tracy? Is he, I don't know, a big magnet?
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So I think he might be. Apparently there was some situation that happened. There was a story in 2017 where he was in the middle of it, where he had gone up to Maxine Waters, you know, the congresswoman.
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Oh, yeah.
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And he was spewing these pro Russian talking points to her, and she called him out and walked away. And it was. It's hilarious. And my friend Tommy Christopher over at Mediaite sent it to me, and I was looking at it yesterday, and I guess at the time, Michael Tracy accused Maxine Waters of, like, kicking his ass or something, roughing him up, and all she does is, like, walk away from him. So this guy is just full of shit. And so apparently he. He has this thing now. For the Epstein survivors, there was the big press conference. Remember when they gave this big Press conference up on Capitol Hill. Yeah, he was there trolling them during that press conference and then afterwards. So I, when I saw him Saturday night, I was like, oh, my God, it's this guy that trolls the Epstein survivors. And what kind of scumbag do you, can you be when you are trolling survivors of sexual assault and sexual abuse and pedophilia? Well, yeah, the Trump supporter.
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I mean, it's just a basic run of the mill Trump supporter.
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You know, he's a troll. He's a, he's a disgusting troll who doesn't pull the, the stickers off his pants when he picks them up. And then to, to challenge me to a fight outside the Hampton Inn. That's. I, I, of course I didn't show off. I didn't see the tweet until the next day. And I'm thinking to myself, how pathetic can you get? A rumble outside the Hampton, the Hampton Inn?
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It was crazy.
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It's not available. You know, give me a break.
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So unhinged.
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But I did tweet. I did tweet at him. I said, did you at least get the free breakfast? You know, because the waffles are, they are breathtaking, you know, and I hope he got some waffles out of it, at least.
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I, I love that you took up for Julie. And she, she's been on our podcast a couple times, and she's like the, you know, she is an incredible journalist who has advocated for these survivors and shining a light on these wrongs that happen to these little girls. And so Julie Brown posted thanking you. Pop this up, Kylie. She says Acosta was a true gentleman who came to my aid last night after Tracy began screaming and blocking me from trying to leave the event. Acosta and several other men had to stand in his way to stop him from following me. So this is just, this is just insane. But I have to say that to me, he is like the quintessential Trump supporter. That is like the comment section. That's the delusion of these people. So good on you for standing up for Julie.
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And you got to stand up to the bullies these days. You know what I mean? It's all about standing up to the bullies. And I told, you know, I told the New York Post this. I don'. If they'll print out, you know, who knows, it's Murdoch people or whatever. But I'll say this to you. He should pick on somebody his own size. And if he wants to pick on somebody, he can pick on me. But don't pick on Julie K. Brown. If it hadn't been for her, we wouldn't know about this Epstein scandal. You know, she's the one who blew the lid off of it and she deserves all the awards that she's received and then some. And I just, you know, to me, I think you're absolutely right. He is the epitome of the Trump MAGA supporter these days. They, they, they can dish it out, but they can't take it. And he was squealing like a little baby all weekend long about this. And you know, all I have to say is, you know, hey, hey, pal, you know, you want to pick on somebody, pick on me.
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Yeah. And you know, I'll just say this, at least there's not that in my mind there's not a big difference between this guy who wants to whip your ass outside of the Hampton Inn and little Moses Mike Johnson. Little Moses Mike Johnson is just more polite about it and he is truly too big of a pussy. But both of these men cover for pedophilia and take the side child rapists. And I say it over and over and over, Jim, MAGA is the anti family death cult that, that they are anti family, they are anti children and all of their policies lead to death. And it's just, and you saw Trump
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on 60 Minutes saying, I'm not a pedophile. You know when you got weird.
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Yeah.
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When you got to say it, that ain't good. Yeah.
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The way he said it. I'm not a rapist. The way he said it, it was just something made my stomach like, oh my God.
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And exactly.
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And that, that's when I went back. I'm with you. And I went back to. And no, I mean, whatever. If people have to do what they want to do. But going and sitting down and playing patty cake with him, like we still have, you know, like they're not trying to dismantle the First Amendment. And then Melania is trying to get Jimmy Kimmel fired today because these people are so thin skinned, they're just in constant victims. But Jim, I can't thank you enough for joining me. Do you have any last closing thoughts on the White House correspondence?
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I, I'm with you a thousand percent on all of this MAGA stuff. And you know, to me, one of the, one of the biggest stories of this second term, which has been a dumpster fire for Donald Trump, has been the COVID up of the Epstein files and the COVID up of this pedophile ring which has been orchestrated by the President and his people, people like Pam Bondi. I mean, they really should be ashamed of themselves. But at the same time, you know, going back to what took place over the weekend, you know, and talking about Butler earlier, you know, there were, there were all these MAGA Christian conservatives, which I still can't figure out for the life of me why they back him. But they think, they think he was saved by God, you know, at these, during these assassination attempts. My response to that is maybe not for the reason you think think maybe not for the reason you think. Maybe he's sticking around just long enough for us, for us all to figure out what a fraud he is and what a fraud some of his people are. And just like this Michael Tracy guy, what a fraud, what a phony. And I weirdo.
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Like, out of all the positions to take your life, you're mad. It's just, there's just this delusional thing about triple Trumpers and Hillary was right when she said basket of deplorables. And every. They freaked out because they're such victims. And Joe Biden called him trash. And then they all started wearing trash bag saying, yeah, we are trash.
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Yeah.
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And he was right. And it just. There is that 30%, 32% that still have his support. They will never, ever believe that he's a con man. They, they have. I agree with you down on this. And it's just, they're cooked.
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But every day they give us fresh reasons to think that they are. And maybe it's penetrating. I mean, you know, when Margie Taylor Greene and Tucker Carlson and Megan Kelly and maybe they're just doing it because they're grifters and they're laughing all the way to the bank. But some of these, some of these folks are starting to figure it out little by little. You know, it's like, it's like It's a wonderful life, 11 years. It's like when a bell rings, an angel gets its wings. You know, it's like every day a bell rings and, and somebody goes, oh, yeah, maybe he is a phony. He is a fraud. And that means that, you know, our work continues. Jen.
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That's right, Jim. Thank you so much for joining me. I'm going to be on your stream later. Go follow my friend Jim Acosta on Substack on Instagra on. You're not on Twitter, are you? Oh, you are on Twitter because that's. That guy was going to kick your ass out of.
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Yeah, he was gonna kick my ass on Twitter.
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Go follow at Acosta, defender of journalists. And I will see you later, Jim.
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Sounds good. All right. Great to see you, Jen.