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Host
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Pumps
Erica Kirk and Candace Owens are meeting this morning. They've announced the meeting on social media. Pop this up. Erica Kirk tweets. Candace Owens and I are meeting for a private in person discussion on Monday, December 15th at Real Candace. Oh, and I have agreed that public discussions, live streams and tweets are on hold until after this meeting. I look forward to a productive conversation. Thank you. The Real Candace O says, I'm very much looking forward to this discussion. And hands in the air. Now. I just want to remind everybody here that Candace Owens has blamed like Israel, the United States government, Egyptian planes, the French legionnaires, that maybe even Charlie Kirk is still alive because he went down a trap door and then was tunneled out underneath the Utah University. And so. And then everybody also has seen the. The cringe tour of Eric Kirk where she is on Fox and the new Fox CBS News, which we will call cringe bullshit news from this day moving forward because it is so bad. But here is Erica Kirk talking about Candace with Barry Weiss. Play the clip.
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Host
Podcaster Candace Owens. Okay. At one time a friend of Charlie's, at one time an employee of Turning Point. She has been one of the main peddlers of these conspiracies and she is making a huge amount of money on it. She is building her business off of these lies. What do you want to say to her and the other people that are putting these lies out into the world right now?
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Pumps
Stop.
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Guest 1
That's it. That's all I have to say.
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Pumps
Stop. Okay. This is just my personal opinion pumps. I think they both need to. Need to stop. I think both of them need to stop. This is insanity.
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Guest 2
Well, and here's the deal. You know how I know they're not going to stop is they announced their private meeting on social media. Like that's clue one. That they're not interested in putting this behind closed doors and being private about it. Ugh.
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Pumps
Okay, so during this Barry Weiss CBS takeover and her first town hall is to roll out Erica Kirk. Mind you, we have so many problems in our country right now. You have massive financial economic burdens for so many working class Americans. You have inflation out the wazoo, health care, all of these things. And she is bringing out Eric Kirk. And it's all they've covered for a week straight at CBS News. And listen up, listener. We have agency and we have autonomy. Everybody needs to boycott CBS News. They do not get to just come in and say journalism doesn't matter anymore. We are going to do a propaganda channel. Well, they can do it, but they can't do it without our money. They cannot do it without our money. They cannot do it. If we apply pressure to those advertisers, all of these fascists and all of these oligarchs think they control us. And it's our turn to remind them that we control them. Without power, money, you're nothing. Absolutely nothing. Look at what happened with Jimmy Kimmel. Okay? So in this whole crazy ass Barry Wise town hall with Erica Kirk, the man that asked Charlie Kirk the question that he was answering when he was murdered was at this town hall and asked Eric Kirk a question. Here it is by them.
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Erica Kirk
But any good faith effort to stop political violence must hold both parties to the same standard and expectations. So in that spirit, will you condemn the violent rhetoric of Donald Trump, the most powerful and influential person on earth?
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Guest 1
I appreciate your question. You know my heart. Why would I ever say, yes, go murder people? This is so much deeper than just one. I understand your sentiment, I do. But this is also so much deeper than just one person. This starts at the home. Okay. This starts with family. This starts with a seed that grows and grows. You can choose to have evil in your heart, or you can choose to have light. What you consume and what you absorb from the outside world will manifest itself.
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Pumps
Okay, all right. Did you hear that? What you consume from the outside world will manifest yourself. This starts at the home. And then she goes on and on to say you should take away social media and tablets and ipods from kids. So while you're doing Pilates, she never says the name Trump. She never condemns political violence, ever. And I just want to remind you what was going on in Erica and Charlie Kirk's home. Play the clip.
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Erica Kirk
Other death penalties, I think what some of those guys did to Donald Trump to use the instruments of government to destroy the constitutional order, that that should be under consideration. Okay. Teen and it was by firearm. Yeah, that's how you should. By the way, this is the problem with death penalty. Takes too long, too many appeals. It should be public, it should be quick, it should be televised. Well, this can't be right, can it? The last execution in France was guillotine in 1977. 100% true. They used the guillotine until 77.
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Host
Yeah.
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Erica Kirk
That's so cool. There's videotape of it. Honestly, that's like what we should be doing. And I agree. It should be public square. By the way, do you could sell. You could force the government to watch it. You could have like brought to you by Coca Cola and no, I'm not kidding, by the way. I would totally tune in to see some pedo get their head chopped off. Convicted by a jury, by the way, that's going to get, I'm talking, this.
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Pumps
Goes on and on. So you know, she, you know, how can you have hate in your heart? All of the stuff she said pumps and then this is the kind of stuff that Charlie Kirk said routinely and Barry Wise is such a intellectually manipulative, exploitative grifter to not cover all of this. She said that it's CBS is going to be fair. Are we asking her questions about any of the language that Charlie Kirk used while he was alive?
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Guest 2
Well, I mean you've got homophobic remarks, sexist remarks, racist remarks. I mean you cannot listen to Charlie Kirk clips without cruelty and hatred coming out. So for Barry Wise to sit there and act like, well you know, these podcasters are lying and making millions of dollars off of these lies and conspiracies. That was Charlie Kirk's MO hate conspiracies. So please, I do not need a lecture from Barry Wise or Erica Kirk about factual journalism.
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Pumps
Okay? And then here's just a reminder, you guys, I think it's super important. I, a lot of the stuff, the majority of the stuff that Charlie Kirk said, it just really turned my stomach. But I do not think he should be dead. I don't think he should have died violently televised the way he just described in his podcast clip. I, I, I, I don't think that's fruitful for society whether it's a court sanctioned punishment or another statistic of gun violence. But Charlie Kirk did think was okay. And so let's play the clip here.
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Erica Kirk
I think it's worth to have a cost of unfortunately some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God given rights.
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Guest 2
And when you repeat those words, if you use Charlie Kirk's words in quotes after his murder, people were being fired, people were being cancelled and all they were doing is repeating the rhetoric from Charlie Kirk. This was not a peace, love and everybody come together kind of guy. This was so we have school shootings, kids die, but as long as I get to have my gun, it's fine. So this whole rewriting of history with CBS and Erica Kirk and Fox News, it just, it's absolutely reductive in every way.
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Pumps
I completely agree. There's also another segment in this where she is talking about anti Semitism and she's talking about that Charlie called it brainwash rot and she said why would you hate the Jews Why would you hate Israel? That she and Charlie went to Israel twice together and you could see the Bible in Technicolor. And when I heard her say this, I thought to myself, like, how could your husband said that if a man was a black pilot that he's going to be worried that that plane is going to crash. He spoke about stoning, like biblical stuff, stoning homosexuals. This, this bit about the second Amendment that he just said, those are, think about Sandy Hook. Those were five and six year olds all in a closet hiding. And because of the assault rifle, he was able in like 10 or 15 seconds to kill over a dozen little kids. And then now we have this shooting at Brown. And many people that were in that classroom, this is their second experience. They had it happen in their high school and now they're having it happen in their colleges. And so these are just such disingenuous, morally defunct conversations that are taking place on mainstream media right now. And we can eliminate and eradicate CBS from being mainstream. The consumer can. We mustn't under any circumstances consume or do anything with this whole Larry Ellison empire. And CBS in particular used to be a station that people could tune into where you had 60 minutes. Of course they immediately capitulated. But we have to really show strong numbers like we did with the Jimmy Kimmel firing and get these people to where it is as toxic as all get out for advertisers to advertise. This woman, Barry Weiss, has every opportunity right now. If you want to have Erica Kirk on, have Erica Kirk on, but ask her the proper questions. Erica Kirk is around parading around telling women to get married earlier and to stay at home and have children. Meanwhile, Erica Kirk is doing a full time media blitz, not with her children, making money, taking donations. Ask those questions. But it's like, in my opinion, the right wing wanted this Charlie Kirk murder to be like this Reichstag fire. So desperate. And they've intertwined this Israel thing in it. And if that's just conspiracy theorists by Candy Candace Owens, why do they keep talking about it? It's weird. The whole thing is weird as. All right, here's Barry Weiss talking about the interview. So pumps. It wasn't enough that she did the interview the town hall. Now she's grandstanding on the morning show and all of these other places. This woman is so insufferable.
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Host
Play the clip Is a deeply religious Christian. And that's a theme that came across quite powerfully in the conversation. I'm not Christian, but bearing witness to something that in her is clearly very deeply held and sincere. Was quite powerful and powerful for everyone in the audience. I think the thing that was baffling for many of us that watched that. I mean, I remember watching it and thinking, I can't understand this. What does this mean? She was able to explain the distinction between forgiveness as a personal choice to almost let go of something, to not let it be this anvil around her, and forgiveness in the mode of her. Her faith.
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Pumps
All right, it's enough. Can you imagine these three sitting there going, are you kidding me? This is our boss now who's sitting here? And here's the thing, Barry Weiss. She looks like she's in a state of religious psychosis. Nothing about this woman translates as sane, rational. When she goes from giggling to then this crazy, like, crazed face, Nothing about this woman or anything she says seems rooted in reality. To me. She looks like a person who is a religious addict in the throes of religious psychosis and the constant linking of providing cover for Israel in the. Charlie Kirk's murder. Why do they keep saying it? It's so bizarre to me. Like, how on earth is Charlie Kirk's murder related to ISRA in any way, shape or form? Maybe there are conspiracy theorists saying it, but if you're the. The press and you're Erica Kirk, you would simply follow the evidence and the. And the facts of the case. I mean, p. Sure, a lawyer would. A lawyer. If you're the prosecution, you're not chasing down some conspiracy theory.
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Guest 2
No, not your evidence. But I'll tell you what evidence looks like. Benjamin Netanyahu getting on screen, denying it like four or five times. Like, that is weird. I thought this whole thing, it was. We have heard reports, not just from crazy ass Candace Owens, about Charlie Kirk's rejection of being pro Israel, being pro Netanyahu. We've seen that from several different outlets after his death. So to me, this was a rewriting of what Charlie Kirk's position on Israel was. It was making sure that everybody knew Erica Kirk is all in on Israel. So those reports you heard about Charlie and how he. He rejected $250 million to stump for Israel and all that, just ignore that because that didn't happen.
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Pumps
I think you're exactly right. I think it's because one of the clips, she's like, Charlie comes home from work and he's like, shabbat shalom, right? And he throws his phone in the desk drawer. And it's just like, Christians don't say that. Like, Christians don't come home and. And say that. So there's, it's, it's so over the top in saying Charlie loved Israel so much that when you look at, like, Charlie's body of work, this guy didn't love that much at all. I mean, he was a real hate monger. Like dismissed. You know, the civil rights movement, Martin Luther King, homosexuals, the racism. You know, what he said about a pilot being black, it's just really horrific. So then for us to believe that somehow he was this champion against anti Semitism. I'm sorry, but if you, if you're genuinely against bigotry, you're against all forms of bigotry. That would be, you know, anti black racism, anti immigration bigotry, anti Semitism, Islamophobia. So for me, it's always a red flag when somebody picks one that they say, okay, this is the most important thing because that's not standing, its bigotry. That's supremacy. And that's something that we all really need to absorb right now as we're presented with all these binary choices. And then I just want to show you cbs, okay? We have a president right now who's lying, who clearly the health is in severe, severe, severe decline. The economy for workingclass people is horrible. For billionaires, for Barry Weiss and for her boss, Larry Ellison, they don't have any problems. So they can, you know, hang out with Erica Kirk all day. So not only pumps did they do the town hall, and then Barry Weiss is on every show on CBS talking about it. Here is their newsfeed. Put this up, Kylie. Okay, so Brent, myself says, this is insane. Nobody wants this. Ron Philipkowski says 23 posts in 3 days from CBS featuring Barry Weiss with Erica Kirk, or maybe Erica Kirk with Barry Weiss. It's hard to tell who was supposed to be the one featured in all of this. Yeah, and that's their feed. It's just this. And there's all of this breaking news, all of these things happening. This is when the. The shootings in Australia going to cover later today. The shootings at Brown University. This is their news feed is Barry Weiss and Erica Kirk. It's just. It's wild to me. And so I just want to say it again. Thank you all for tuning into this channel and other independent, independent media channels. We have agency. We have autonomy. We have the ability to start shutting these places down when we organize because Barry Wise doesn't get to have some agenda and then come cram it down our throat. She can do it, but we certainly don't have to watch it. This is insanity. It is completely nuts. And not one point is anybody talking about gun violence. And that's what killed Charlie Kirk. Believe it or not, the Charlie Kirk death and the Brown University deaths are linked. Why do people have guns at universities in the United States of America? Nobody has brought that up regarding Charlie Kirks. And it will continue. Each gun death, whether it's a right winger that's killed, left winger that's killed, you know, whatever, people in synagogues that are killed, gang violence, whatever, the people in schools. Until we start really dealing with it, honestly, it's just going to continue in this country. And it's a uniquely American problem.
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Guest 2
It really is stunning that your husband would be murdered on live TV and never once would gun violence, gun control, common sense legislation about guns that never crossed your lips. And all these people who were best friends with Charlie Kirk and they love him and he's so great, you know, J.D. vance, Trump, all these people, not once have they said, let's do some common sense gun legislation for Charlie Kirk. I mean, we know they're not going do it for kids because they never have. And kids have been dying at a mass rate in the United States, but they're, they can't even do it for their best friend, Charlie Kirk. It's really a sad. It just goes to the moral rot and the reinforcement that, you know, people need guns to defend themselves. Well, if everybody didn't have a gun, nobody would need a gun. That's so stupid.
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Pumps
I completely agree with you. Pumps. All right, subscribe to our channel. Drop us a comment to feed the algorithm and we'll be back later with the more news.