Jennifer 'Pumps' Welch (3:10)

their strength and numbers. Verisite poll released Tuesday found that 55% of U.S. adults surveyed said the House should vote to impeach Trump. So clearly this is some, this president is, is historically unpopular. He, nobody really likes him except for, I mean like the crazy triple Trump base. That's it. And then the billionaires that, that ask his what's your take on how should Democrats position themselves? There is a establishment position that, oh, we shouldn't push impeachment. We need to just let him do what he's going to do. What's your take on that?

Unnamed Co-host (3:48)

My take on that is if the establishment is saying, oh, we need to, you know, not impeach him, they need to get the out of office, they need to be primaried. But I'd like to see Democrats not only start listing articles of impeachment, but I would like to see a plan of how they are going to start providing legislation that will remake what Trump has done. Because we cannot go back to the guardrails hold. The institutions will hold. I would like to see plans how are we going to take back the country and make it secure for democracy so if another tyrant comes in, we can stop it? Because we have thought about what happens when an authoritarian gets in the White House. And I would like to see laws that they are drafting to put on the books. I mean, I would like, I would like a binder this big of all the things that Democrats are going to do to bring back and hold our democracy.

Jennifer 'Pumps' Welch (4:47)

Yeah. And I would just say that there were guardrails in Trump 1.0. And then the American public rejected Trump's first term. You know, they like him when he campaigns because he's kind of entertaining and, and unintentionally funny. And then when he governs, he's wildly unpopular. And the Democrats had a rule book exactly as to what to do to stop this. And it would have started with Jack Smith appointed a special prosecutor on day one. There were guardrails here. And the Biden administration fumbled the bag. But deeper to that, I think the Democrats need to address the Supreme Court issue. I think the Democrats need to address the dated electoral college. I think the Democrats need to Address Citizens United. And I think the Democrats need to, like they did at the Nuremberg trials. If there is, if Trump releases a bunch of pardons, then we have laws that if, you know, a president is saying, hey, you do these things and don't worry, I'll pardon you, that those pardons are null and void. But let's talk about the people that will be seeking pardons, and one of them is Kash Patel. And an Atlantic writer pop this up. Kylie, an Atlantic writer says she's been inundated by more sources willing to corroborate Cash Patel reporting. I think one of the things that has been most gratifying after, immediately after the story published was I have been inundated by additional sourcing going up to the highest levels of the government, thanking us for doing the work, providing additional cooperating information. So this was an open secret in Washington, unfortunately, and we took great care to bring it to light. And a couple things I want to point out. I read that Cash Patel feels like he's an outsider. His brown skin, his bank account is not as impressive as the other people that are on the board. Trump is a famous teetotal. He does not like drinking. He, he cannot stand it. His brother died of alcoholism and he is on the record a lot, speaking about how much he does not like drinking. And so why he picked two alcoholics, Hegseth and Cash Patel, I don't know. But I think Cash Patel's days are numbered. And, and Cash Patel knows it. That's why you see him doing these insane press conferences, and he's probably going to start a bunch of insane investigations.

Josh (7:16)

Josh, I don't think it's any surprise. We talked about Cash and we talked about how easy it would be to sort of roll out this plethora of evidence that, yes, he drinks too much, yes, he's incompetent, yes, he doesn't work. I'm sure this reporter with the Atlantic is just salivating at the thought of getting to produce all of this information and reveal the sources that she has for this reporting. I mean, the one thing that appears to me about Trump, the way he views alcoholics or the way he views alcoholism, he doesn't view it as a disease. He views it as a character weakness. He views it as someone who's weak. And so it is ironic that he would pick two, what appears to be alcoholics to run his secretary of defense, as well as the FBI for that matter. You know, two relatively important agencies in our government. You might say that he just hands off to a Couple of guys. So yeah, the, the reporter with the Atlantic, like that's going to be fun sort of tracking that story and, and seeing where that takes him. I, I would dare to say my prediction would be that Cash Patel is not with the FBI in 30 days. I, I think that's pops.

Jennifer 'Pumps' Welch (8:34)

What do you think?

Unnamed Co-host (8:35)

I, I would say probably he's going to have to save a little face with Cash. So I'm going to say 60 days he's not with him. And I would just say the reason Trump picks people that are in active addiction is because he is so broken. These people will kiss his ass and give him something like all the other people in his cabinet do for, you know, all of them have something in them that allows them to behave and act the way that they do in their positions of power. And for Cash and Pete Hexaf, you know, it's alcohol. For everybody else they're just up. I mean not saying Pete and Cash aren't up, but I'm just saying like you have to be something inside you is not. Well, if you're like all chips in on I'm going to go after James Comey because Trump wants me to and he posted it on my social like that just doesn't happen in a professional business.

Jennifer 'Pumps' Welch (9:30)

And we know from scholars that strong men, dictators intentionally pick incompetent people to elevate their own competence. So a lot of this Trump and MAGA think they're so universally unique. They're playing this age old, two bit dictator playbook down to the wire. I mean if you talk to Jason Stanley, if you talk to Ruth Ben Guy, if you talk to Timothy Snyder, they've seen this story unfold, you know, time and time and time again. And the intentional choosing of incompetent, broken people is by design. And, and then, you know, this administration, the corruption is just unbelievable. And we have to make sure we are doing brand damage to the Republican Party. I mean decades long brand damage. Number one, you're terrible with the economy. Always have been, always will be. Number two, the law and order stuff is it's total. And here is. And that you support the troops. Total. Here is a post on a story of a US Soldier that had insider information about the Venezuela capture of Maduro and he bet on it on Polymarket. Pop this up. New York Times breaking news. A U.S. soldier who helped capture Nicholas Maduro has been charged with using classified information to bet on the mission on polymarket. And here's what Trump has to say about that. Play the clip.

Donald Trump (clip) (11:00)

This team that would be no good. But he better his own team. I'll look into it. Yeah.

Benjamin (11:04)

Also Benjamin, that are being placed as well on the Iran conflict too. And there have been some trackings where people suspect that there's insider trading happening on these prediction markets around the war.

Donald Trump (clip) (11:16)

Well, you know, the whole world unfortunately has become somewhat of a casino. And you look at what's going on all over the world, in Europe and every place they're doing these betting things. I was never much in favor of it. I don't like it conceptually. But it is what it is. Now. I, I think that.

Jennifer 'Pumps' Welch (11:36)

So I mean of course like there the corruption that the Republican Party has mainstreamed and this is the family values party and I just think the brand damage that Democrats need to go out and do to this propagandic, bullshit lying party. Because here's what we know. They are an anti economy, anti family, pro death cult. They are terrible with business, their policies always lead to war, always lead to death. And they are the most anti family party that this world has ever seen. Truly, the Republican Party opposes family. Look at their policies. Every single policy they make makes it more difficult for you to be in a family, while at the same time they're promoting teenagers getting pregnant.

Josh (12:30)

And I think what's forgotten on a day to day basis is the level of financial corruption with the Trumps. I mean, just today we reported eric Trump A $24 million contract with the Department of Defense. But this whole pardon scandal where he's just blatantly selling pardons, all of these interactions with these countries in the Middle east, everybody's getting their pockets lined up with, with money. And this just isn't normal. This isn't how government is designed to function and represent the will and interest of the day to day American person, you know, surviving in middle America. And so it's important to note that and bring that home. And, and a lot of this, we haven't discussed this before, but a lot of this, a lot of his conduct and his administration's conduct is directly related to the Supreme Court given him sort of full reign to do what he wants to and he's president with an interpretation that he cannot be charged with a crime after he's president. And I realize that's subject to a little bit of a legal debate, but pretty much the Supreme Court has said, look, you can do what you want to here and there's not going to be any consequences. And that's why in this second term you see this level of corruption that really is truly unrivals for his first term. Like it's just on a different level. And that's why, because the Supreme Court has sort of given him the permission slip to. To do whatever you want free of any consequence. And so now there's no check or balance on his conduct.

Jennifer 'Pumps' Welch (14:02)

All right? And then of course, like Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna calls for the sergeant to be pardoned. Because one thing about MAGA is they are for if you're a MAGA supporter, you can commit any crime, you can do anything you want to do. And then the enemy from within or the left, they only demand accountability from the people that have different differing political views. But here is the new Navy Secretary Hung cow on white supremacist comparison. Just play the clip. This is what they're putting into. Into the United States military right now in leadership positions and not promoting people that are worthy and have earned it simply because they're black. But this guy is getting a promotion. Pop this up.

Hung Cao (14:49)

I'll be attacked by left and call me white supremacist, but I have one asked for them. It's just when you give me my hood, make sure it's got the little slits and not the circles so I can see better

Jennifer 'Pumps' Welch (15:02)

what the fuck is. I mean, seriously. And I don't give a shit about this stuff, but there is also this component in MAGA where you have women that carry the water for the patriarchy. You have Scott Besson and Tim Cook, gay men that are carrying water for the patriarchy. You have this guy, you have Cash Patel. And I have news for you. You think these white supremacists. Supremacists think you're the special Vietnamese guy that if you wear a KKK hood that you're going to be in the club? No. At some point they're going to come after every single one. And it's just amazing to me that Clarence Thomas, that this guy that, you know, look at what Pam Bondi. Look what happened to Pam Bondi the day after she got fired. Her picture is in the trash can. She will be in history books forever as an attorney general that covered up for the president of the United States involvement in a pedophile ring. That is her. She lost her everything for that. And that's how she's going to be recorded. And how does MAGA thank her trash can for Bondi?

Josh (16:08)

I think this Navy secretary. And we're going to bypass the obvious hits on the name. Yeah, we're going to. We're going to. But. But he better enjoy his, you know, you get a little bit of time and in good graces with Trump before you get on, and so just enjoy that. You get to make the rounds on all the conservative podcast and you get to be the hero. But at some point, you're going to get on. You're going to be sent back to wherever it is you came from, and that's. That's what's going to happen to this person. He's obviously going to do whatever Trump tells him to do. That's exactly why he got the appointment.

Jennifer 'Pumps' Welch (16:47)

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Josh (18:41)

I tried to. I tried to.

Greg Gutfeld (18:43)

What's.

Jennifer 'Pumps' Welch (18:43)

Once potty talk comes up pumps, and I can't stop laughing. You have Hung Cow who thinks that he's the magic Vietnamese person that's a white supremacist. He thinks he's a white supremacist. Okay, all right, whatever. Um, and. And like, you would want to be that. That's so weird. But I'll leave that to the psychiatrist, and then you have of course, the actual white supremacists on Fox. And here's Greg Gutfeld. And this is just so overtly racist. And this is the network where racism, the killing of homeless people, the mainstreaming of dementia and ignorance and stupidity all day, every day. 24, 7 play the clip.

Greg Gutfeld (19:23)

This is why the criticism doesn't matter to us. When you call us Nazis, Nazi this, Nazi that. You know, I'm beginning to think they don't like us. You know what, I've said this before. We need to learn from the blacks the way they, they were able to remove the power from the N word by using it. So from now on it's what up my Nazi? Hey, what up my Nazi? Hey, what's hanging my Nazi?

Benjamin (19:49)

Nazi, please.

Greg Gutfeld (19:52)

Thank God you did a hard eye there. What does it tell you though?

Jennifer 'Pumps' Welch (19:56)

It's really breathtaking that they want to be called Nazis. I mean it, it's wild to me that how mainstream this is. And he said we need to take a lesson from the blacks and the racism. If you live in a, in a, in a Bible Belt state, you're aware of it, abundantly aware and of just how insid and ubiquitous it is. But now to see this on national television like that, and these are the same people, these forces that far right, Israel funding groups, Israel lobby groups fund this stuff. And here, here they are begging, let's take the power and let's call each other Nazis. It's just breathtaking. The anti Semitism, the good old fashioned racism that, you know, most of their viewers, they're all down with hating on black people. It's just stunning to me.

Josh (20:59)

And this is the party that's aligned with Israel.

Unnamed Co-host (21:01)

Yeah.

Josh (21:02)

That thinks that, that we can just refer to ourselves as Nazis. I, I, I don't have much to offer there that would be kind or polite at all. It's the one thing that, that they have that we don't have is they've got this propaganda machine which is Fox News that infiltrates all of these homes in small town America and normalize all of this stuff like that. That's the, that's the precipe for normalizing this kind, all this stuff. When you hear that kind of rhetoric is to normalize it and make it and plant a seed in the back of your mind. And they have that vehicle, they have the means to do that. The Democrats don. We don't have that messaging machine like Fox News right now. So we have to, we have to come up with a different game plan because, and that's real Fox News is real in day to day America. That's where a lot of people get their information from. That's where they hear this kind of stuff. That's where it starts. And until we can combat that rhetoric with our own messaging, we're going to have to put up with it. But it's really pretty breathtaking to hear just a level of acceptance and normalization.

Jennifer 'Pumps' Welch (22:13)

Where's the adl? I mean, why aren't they coming out and saying here is the Five and they're talking about how just call us Nazis, just own it. Six million Jewish people were exterminated in the Holocaust. And here's Greg Gutfeld and you know, the Five, they're all joking around Nazi, please. It's where is the ADL and condemning this where, I mean, seriously, it's just wild to me how people in these higher up places, they want to cherry pick which human rights matter and which ones don't and then they want to lecture everybody else. When we stand up for trans people or we stand up for Palestinians or we stand up for Lebanese people or we stand up against Islamophobia, which has been so mainstreamed, so mainstream. And we also stand out against anti Semitism that is just wildly anti Semitic, just straight up, you know, anti black racism. It's just abhorrent. But Josh is a hundred million percent right. Fox News is number one in cable news. There is an audience that digs this that is every single bit as racist, Islamophobic and anti Semitic as all of those hosts there, with the exception of our queen, of course, Jessica Tarlov. And I, I didn't see if she was sitting there or but pumps.

Unnamed Co-host (23:41)

I just, when I hear all this and you know, I used to be the person that thought, oh good, when Fox, you know, Fox News's demographic is so much older, they're going to die off and we're going to, you know, it's going to be fine. And then you see all of these young Republican groups on college campuses and they get their text and it's Nazi this and Nazi that. You get, you know, Nick Fuentes, who is becoming a large, large voice with the younger people. So this problem not getting better, it is getting worse. When all these young Republicans, it has become a feature of young Republican chat groups in. We've seen it in New York, we've seen it in Florida. I'm sure it's other places that being anti Semitic is part of the game. Yet like you said, they're in bed with the Republican Party with their, you know, camp Auschwitz and flags at the parade. You, these two live under the same umbrella.

Jennifer 'Pumps' Welch (24:41)

And I do want to say polling has shown recently that Gen Z has and millennials have abandoned Trump in record, record, record numbers. So while it feels so overwhelming and when we, when we report on this stuff, it's important to know that this is a minority. It's important that everybody knows that's fighting against fascism and fighting for democracy. They don't have the numbers. Yeah, they have Fox. Yeah, they have these Nazi Nazi chats. But we have brand damage to do. We need to make MAGA synonymous with all of these other things. Oh, yes, that guy is maga. Pam Bondi was maggot. Because MAGA represents dehumanization, racism, favoring the accumulation of wealth for a few over helping others. And it favors death. It is a death cult. MAGA is an anti family death cult. Say it once, say it now, say it frequently, say it often, say it to every MAGA you know, because they, they know their policies lead to death and lead to the destruction of family. All right, that's all we have. Like and subscribe and we. Oh, I would like to thank Josh for joining us all week. He is heading back to the Bible belt.

Josh (25:57)

I want to say this real fast. Thank you listeners and viewers of IHIP News and I've had it for allowing me to come on your. Thank you to Jennifer and Pumps. I do want to say this. Being in the studio up close for a full week, I realize the importance of what both of you do. I realize the importance that both of you, the messages that you carry to your listeners and to your viewers. And so I would commend you both for a job well done. This is not easy. This is not popular at times, but you do it in an amazing way. Thank you for allowing me to be here and thank you for the listener and viewer for listening and viewing.

Unnamed Co-host (26:36)

Thank you, Josh, for coming. And I have pre ordered Jennifer Welch's book.

Josh (26:42)

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Josh (26:45)

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Josh (26:49)

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