Congressman Robert Garcia (3:14)

So here's what we know, and then I'll share with you a little about the records. What we know is the survivors. The one thing they will all share and they. I've talked to, you know, 20, 25 of them, whether in groups or individually, one on one in conversations. The one thing they've all said is to follow the money. They're all very aware that all of these powerful interests and men were essentially paying Jeffrey Epstein enormous amounts of money through these banks. We also know there was apparently money laundering that was also happening, possible real estate transactions. All sorts of different criminal actions were happening as part of kind of Jeffrey Epstein's broader network of crimes. And so we know that these banks transferred enormous amounts of money to Epstein and his associates and Ghislaine Maxwell. And so getting these records and understanding what were these shell companies that may have been set up, who was actually sending the money, where was the money going, is at the center of this investigation and the future. And truly, if we're going to get and find out who did what, it's going to be in these financial records. And so we just received some documents from J.P. morgan and Deutsche Bank. Now, to be clear, we have requested documents from over 20 banks. Republicans have refused to join us in subpoena and putting out subpoenas for these other 20 banks. They have agreed to these two banks. What the banks have sent us has been very limited in scope. So they've sent us some documents. We expect to receive much more from these two banks in the near future, ideally, and hopefully from all 20 of the banks. And so we hope that as soon as we go over and do this review, it's very complex information. We have specialty folks that understand financing and finance investigations involved. Right now, we want to put that out to the public as well. And so definitely stay tuned on that.

Interviewer / Host (5:07)

How much of this do you think you'll be able to get out before the midterms? You know, obviously, if you had a majority, y' all can really go guns blazing with this thing. But between now and 2026, November, how. What is your estimation of how much of this that you can get released? Because to me, the midterms in this are somewhat tied together. This is the one thing that MAGA Bas borders were kind of all chips in on this Jeffrey Epstein thing. And it's where MAGA really starts shedding support and not only for justice and transparency and exposing this criminal network does it need to be, but also at the heart of our democracy in getting you guys the majority in the House to be able to stop the non stop crimes that are committed every day by this president, his cabinet and then his little pip squeak co conspirator Mike Johnson. It's just. Okay, that's one question. Another thing, what's all this about all the Republicans resigning?

Congressman Robert Garcia (6:17)

Yeah.

Interviewer / Host (6:17)

So give us the tea on all that.

Congressman Robert Garcia (6:19)

Yeah. I'll tell you what I'm hearing. One is as far as what we'll be able to get out, what I've told people is, you know, when I got the, the lead position on the oversight committee, folks said hey, you're not going to be able to get anything out. And since then we have forced disclosure on birthday books, on emails, on photos, on videos, on survivor stories and we've partnered with folks that have pushed to get information out. And so I think we, we have in a few months I think forced some disclosure but it's going to take that much like fight and I think grit and just clawing out more information over the next few months. Because I'm not expecting that the White House, regardless of what they decide to put out by the date of the transparency act that we put out on the Epstein files, I don't think they're going to be sending us information that's going to be essentially put in place accountability for all of Donald Trump's billionaire friends and Jeffrey Epstein's network. I think, I don't think that's going to happen. I do think they're going to put something out, but it's likely most of that will be public information already. And so we've got to ensure that once we next year, once we're in the, in that cycle, that we remind those MAGA voters that Donald Trump betrayed his base, that Republicans and Mike Johnson, members of Congress are betraying their own constituents by not actually doing anything to get disclosure and transparency in the files. And we're going to continue to push. And you're absolutely right, people on the ground, when I go back home, yes, they ask me about health care, but they're also asking me about the Epstein files. And one thing that people need to understand is there are millions and millions of young people, girls and women that are watching what their government is doing right now and asking themselves if something happens to me Is my government going to turn their backs and not go after the predators that raped me or harm me or abused me? And so this is more than just about justice for these survivors. It is about ensuring that the millions of women and girls across this country know that their government is going to turn their backs on them as it relates to these Republicans that are resigning. I mean, look, I am also hearing, or I'm in D.C. right now. People first don't like the Speaker. They think he's ineffective, which he is. He's backstabbed a lot of his members of his own conference, which he has. And they see the writing on the wall. They don't have power. Everything's controlled out of the White House. Mike Johnson does whatever he wants. And I think they're seeing the writing on the wall that the American public is turning on them. And they're finally realizing that what they're doing has nothing to do with affordability. Prices for groceries are up, prices for homes are up. Everything is going up. Nothing's actually coming down. The tariffs are still causing havoc. And so Republicans are jumping ship. And I, we welcome them. Keep, keep resigning. The more the better. Do it now. Do it today.

Interviewer / Host (9:03)

No, I agree. I completely agree. And I think that Mike Johnson will go down in history. If I were to make a list of the most worthless Americans right now, and I mean this sincerely, it sounds funny, but I mean it sincerely, number one would be Mike Johnson. We have, we can ask the sixth graders about the three branches of government and the sixth graders would all say that Moses, Mike has all this power and he abdicates it all the time to this president. And the grossest part about this man is he goes into MAGA culture in red states and he lies to these people and he uses their faith against them. And he Christian signals while he accuses us of virtue signaling. And he lies to these people, just like all of these MAGA politicians do. They lie. Trickle down economics was a lie. Fiscal conservatism is a lie. Law and order and we're being the crime president, all of that is a lie. And they do it by Christian signaling to get the votes. And these people get dicked over by the Moses Mike Johnson's of the world. And they have for decades, long before Trump. And I just think right now, Congressman, we have an opportunity as a Democratic Party to not be a corporate party, to be a complete party of the people, not beholden to any PACs, to any corporations. And you saw it happen in New York City. You saw a young fellow take on the entire billionaire donor class. And he kicked their asses by double digits. And he's amazing. He's amazing.

Congressman Robert Garcia (10:40)

Amazing.

Interviewer / Host (10:41)

He amazing. And I just think right now, that contrast of these do nothing compulsive lying Republicans that Christians signal, and they're just hypocrites, they're fake Christians who have lied to all of these people up against us right now who are fighting for victims of sexual abuse. I moved to New York, so now you can hear the sounds of New York. But you that contrast, that split screen that the Democratic Party has, number one for us to get back to our roots because we've lost our way in the midst of Citizen United and corporate donations. A lot of people in our party, myself included, I voted for corporate Dems in the past. I got kind of jaded by that. What do you think our midterm mantra should be? You have a really great position now, and I'm so happy that you do. It makes me happy to see you fighting there. What do you think is now a part one of the party leaders? Our mantra should be into the midterms.

Congressman Robert Garcia (11:41)

Look, it has to be about fighting for working people. It has to be about fighting so that you can afford to put food on the table for your family, that you have dignity at your job, and that we are as a country remembering that what this country really is about and what government should be about is about helping people. It has to be about help. It's not about helping or enriching those at the top. And I think as we go into these midterms, I want to go back to something that you mentioned about Zoron early on in the process from that election. I think it was a moment for the party to understand that you have this really not just all star talent, but somebody who more effectively than I think anyone on the left on our side has actually communicated what affordability and fighting for working class people is all about. And we should take that model as best we can and bring Zoron in to help replicate that across the country because he understands that working class people just want honesty and they want somebody to fight for them. And I think we need more of that in our party. And I think that example should lead us into 2026. And I think, by the way that you're seeing campaigns, what happened in New Jersey, what happened in Virginia, what happened in California, my home state with redistricting is people understand. And the party, I really believe, has turned a corner in understanding that workingclass people abandoned us because they viewed us as a party of the, of, of the elite class that has to end. And so that's got to be the message is we got to fight like hell for working class people.

Interviewer / Host (13:20)

Real quickly on back to the Epstein financial records. It's my understanding, based on things that I've read, that Scott Bessant at the Department of Treasury holds a treasure trove of documents and financial records about Epstein and that he has declined to turn that over. Is that true? And can you subpoena those records directly from the Department of Treasury?

Congressman Robert Garcia (13:45)

The Department of Treasury. There are numerous financial records that we want to get a hold of, many of which are, we believe, at the, at the Treasury Department. And yes, the problem with the subpoena is when we need Republicans to join us or force subpoena votes, which we've done in the past to get these documents, because the majority chooses to do nothing, they every time we ask for a subpoena, they turn their back or they delay it or they make it limited in scope. And so that's the other piece about getting the majority back is we are going to have all of these guys and in some cases ladies in front of us answering our questions. The banks won't be able to go anywhere, the Cabinet secretaries won't be able to go anywhere. They're going to have to give us and honor these subpoenas. And so yes, that is actually right. And know this as well. There are about, we believe there's over a thousand FBI and other agents across the government that have worked to put these Epstein files together. And so we have heard from whistleblowers and others and we understand what's likely and possibly in these files. If the DOJ thinks are not going to give us the full files or going to try to redact things that we believe to be in there, we are going to raise bloody hell because at the end of the day, the truth is going to come out whether Pam Bonnie of Donald Trump wanted to or not.

Interviewer / Host (15:01)

Okay, Congressman, final question. I believe this is my opinion and I think it's kind of objectively true that this administration commits crimes and corruption every single day. And autocrats historically, when they get power, their number one goal is to consolidate it and keep it and cling on to it for dear life. These midterms are, are what they fear the most, accountability. And I believe even with all of the cheating and the gerrymandering and the assist from the cor up Supreme Court, I still think it's going to be a blue tsunami. I think that I agree with you. If we take a Look at what Zoron did. Took on the billionaire class. He had over a hundred thousand volunteers. And if we take that 50 state strategy and the Democrats have got to go back to a 50 state strategy and never abandon red states again, I think it will be a big blue wave. I'm terrified that these guys will not cede power. I'm really, really don't even think it's hyperbolic to ask like let's say that there is a blue wave and he's got military and he's crazy as all get out. He's got all these Fox News narcissists that work in his cabinet that are complete dipshits. I mean, how, how realistic is it to be terrified that if y' all win, they're not gonna let you get power of the House?

Congressman Robert Garcia (16:29)

Look, I think it's very realistic to believe that Donald Trump will do whatever it takes to stay in power. And I've been saying that from day one. That is not something that we should think is far fetched. I mean, he's laying the groundwork and he's even, you know, he's talked about issue whenever he says something like, oh well, you know, Ukraine had to postpone their elections because they were in a war. That should signal something. When he's putting masked agents of, from ICE and other agencies across American cities, deploying the National Guard, that should be, that is more than just the horrific actions of what he's doing around deportation. He is, knows that what he's doing with ICE and he's, he's building himself his own police force that answers to him across the country. Because I believe that he knows that there are probably enough good, honest generals and leaders in our military that aren't going to allow him to do what he wants if he tries to stay in power. But building his own national police state, which he continues to do and fund at historic levels, we've got to keep an eye on that. And he's testing the ground every single day out in American cities. And so all of that is important, which is why that blue tsunami and winning as many seats as possible is important. That's why we shouldn't give up on the Senate. We should try to win every damn Senate seat that we can win the House, stop his agenda. And we've got to, like I've told everyone, I finally feel a little hope, like we can save our fucking country. But that means we've got to win that we've got to win Congress and then we've got to win the presidency and We've got to be laser focused on winning the presidency, rolling back all of his hate, his division, his executive orders, and getting our country finally back on track and then holding all of these guys accountable. I cannot wait. Yes. I can't wait for that terrible oversight when we win the majority to bring in Stephen Miller on day.

Interviewer / Host (18:29)

Yes.

Congressman Robert Garcia (18:29)

You know, to bring in Kristi Noam, to bring in Tom Holman, to bring in all these folks that have caused real harm to this country. They should know that all of the crimes that they're committing, they're going to be held accountable.

Interviewer / Host (18:42)

Yeah. You know, the thing that we have to realize is that now they are normalizing murder for sport with that second boat strike and cruelty for sport and covering up for pedal pedophiles for sport. This is what they do for enjoyment. And it is, I don't think, very popular. I think this administration constantly tries to admit we're such tough guys, we're so alpha. Look at, you know, look at us. Meanwhile, I think they're just wildly insecure, emotionally stunted individuals that are playing out their broken inner child issues on a national stage. And I think accountability is where the Biden administration failed us. And I think as Democrats, we need to be very clear eyed about what a fumble that was that these guys are such dipshits and we couldn't beat them. It's really more of an indictment on the Democrats than it is on them. And I hope moving forward for the midterms and for the presidency, we are clear eyed. We will admit our mistakes. We will take a look at all PAC money and swear it off and look at the people who are winning and what message is winning? Because there's nothing better on the planet than kicking Republicans asses. And it's going to feel so good to beat these next year. I mean it is, it is going to feel so good and we need to do it. And I just pumps and I just really appreciate you so much, Congressman. And it's just in a sea of fuckery on the Internet when we get to see you speak and this is just a real small thing, but incomplete sentences and make sense and not compulsively lie is so refreshing. And that should just be the bare minimum, you know, the split screen of you against, you know, a Scott Bessant as pumps pointed out or you know, J.D.

Congressman Robert Garcia (20:36)

Vance or by the way, what? And both of us gay. Scott. Scott Besson.

Interviewer / Host (20:42)

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. That's just something that's so weird to me.

Congressman Robert Garcia (20:47)

Bizarre to me too. It's like I. These folks are just the folks that are in the Republican Party that are LGBTQ and out because, you know, obviously there's some. They're not out. Is insane to me. Insane. Harming your own community.

Interviewer / Host (21:00)

But same with the women. Same with the women that go in gender wash. And then you have the. The vice President Pastor on 60 Minutes talking about doing away with the 19th Amendment.

Congressman Robert Garcia (21:13)

Yeah.

Interviewer / Host (21:14)

No hexess. Yeah. Hex says pastor. Sorry. Thank you. Pumps. It's. It's wild to me that these people go into this group thinking they're the magic homo or they're the magic woman or they're the magic Indian. And cash Patel's defense. And it's like, listen up, buttercups. We grew up in a red state. These white Christian nationalists, these men, these rich, fat cat men, they're using you right now. They will turn the knives on you so fast, it'll make your head spin. There's nothing magic about you at all. They will you over just like they everyone else over. You'll just get over last. That's what's in store for you anyway. All right. Sorry for the language. You know, there's sometimes no other. No better way to talk about these than using the F bomb.

Interviewer / Host (21:56)

Congressman, thank you so much.

Congressman Robert Garcia (21:58)

Thank you.