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Main Host
All right, the Epstein files are not going away and there is absolute bombshell news that comes out and you really need to focus in because in this news cycle they want to flood the zone. This is massive. Per RAW Story Pop this up Kylie Buried FBI interview Claims Trump Tower was Used for recruitment New reporting from RAW STORY highlights a buried FBI interview for from 2021 that alleges recruiters operated out of Trump Tower in the early 1990s targeting young women for none other than Donald Trump's best friend, Jeffrey Epstein.
Co-host
This surprises me. 0 this is a man that also ran a modeling agency around the same time all this was happening. This is a man that thought it was appropriate to to sexually assault a woman in a Bergdorf Goodman's dressing room. This man has zero morals or respect for women. It this surprises me.
Main Host
Absolutely zero and this is a man who also sexually harasses his own daughter on live television. You know, what he did with Ivanka is just utterly insane for a father to sexualize his own daughter in that way. But here's the next tidbit from this story. Pop this up. Woman says she was approached in Trump Tower atrium by two men. She worked at a shoe boutique inside Trump Tower. When the two men approached her, they suggested she meet Donald Trump and implied that sex would be expected with one man winking at her, telling her she didn't need to work so hard. And here's why these claims are so believable. Because this is a pattern that we see over and over and over in the Epstein files. Ghislaine Maxwell approached people. The people that he worked with overseas approached young people and it's always to provide for other men. These men Send out recruiters, whether they be male or female, to approach people with whom they want to sexually abuse well.
Co-host
And they believe they are entitled to take over whatever they want. If they see a pretty girl or a pretty woman or a pretty child and they're attracted, they believe they are entitled to be able to do whatever they want because of money. And that same money has protected them. You're out decades of abuse of people that had less that were not from the same socioeconomic background. And you see it over and over and over.
Main Host
Okay, and then pop this up, Kylie. Recruiters invited her to a party at none other than Jeffrey Epstein's house. Jeffrey Epstein's address was given, and that would be the Manhattan townhome on the Upper east side. She was told she could bring a friend who looked like her. The men gave her Jeffrey Epstein's address. She declined the offer. She felt that it was clear that sex was on the table. And here's why I believe that there is a lot of veracity in these claims. Because a part of Jeffrey Epstein's whole pyramid scheme, sexual pyramid scheme, if you want to call it that, was about bringing friends. It was a pyramid scheme in that if you come, then you bring a friend, and if you bring a. Refer a friend, then you get a bonus. So the fact that one. This wasn't just one isolated thing and they were telling her to bring another one is the exact. Are the exact same tactics that were used in the Palm beach portion of his sex crimes.
Co-host
Well, and Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein let's. By Trump's own admission and Epstein's admission, they were best friends, they were running buddies. Was money that broke them up, despite all the claims by Trump. Now it was money that broke them up. It wasn't because they clashed on morality or had any type or Trump was repugnant to his behavior. They. He knew it. So of course he was in on this. Like, it just. There's a through line here. Trump and Epstein. Epstein was just more successful at hiding it for so many years. Trump, he's been, like you said, sexualizing his daughter. Adjudicated rapist. Grab him by the pussy.
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Co-host
It's so disgusting. And so for people to act like, oh, well, we can't, you know, Trump said they weren't friends. Bullshit. Trump says a lot of shit. That's a lie.
Main Host
Well, and I think that if you think about the way these men felt about themselves, entitlement and so also places areas of recruitment. And so we know that Donald Trump lived in Manhattan and also had a home In Palm Beach, Jeffrey Epstein, Manhattan, also a home in Palm beach, best friends. I mean we saw all, saw the birthday card. So it's perfectly believable for the brain to go that Donald Trump goes to these parties at Jeffrey Epstein's either West Palm Beach, House island and, or Manhattan. And he said Donald Trump's own words. Yeah, Jeffrey Epstein is a great friend of mine. He likes, he likes the ladies, young ones. And that's on video of Trump saying that Trump likes to curry favor with people and he likes for people to curry favor with him. And so the fact that it's not that hard to think that Trump would tell his, you know, security teams, hey, go down and find some good looking girls and send them over to Jeffries. Go. Because they pass these girls around like appetizers. These, these R A P I S T s, these grown. And so based in totality of all of the files, now we understand why he was stage five melting down as they started to become released and released. And then anybody who he feels wants the truth in this. Thomas Massie, Lauren Boebert, Nancy Mace, Marjorie Taylor Greene, he goes nuclear on them. He goes absolutely nuclear. Because every time they dig a little deeper, there's a nugget like this. And think about all of the stuff that we've received. This is the most cherry picked version of it because I think it's 3.5 million pages.
Co-host
Yeah, over 3 million.
Main Host
Over 3 million pages remain in DOJ custody under the chain of command of Todd Blanche. It's Trump's personal attorney. And a personal attorney always has to advocate for their own client. And that's what Todd Blanche is doing here. He's advocating for Trump by these files. Close to the, close to the vest. And Todd Blanch probably thinks he is going to get a pardon. And on our substack yesterday, Josh and I, Angie, were talking about the idea of where these pardons are. So I believe that Trump is not an or, you know, like, okay, JD And Susie Wiles, in case I die, here's my pardon file and I have them ready for everybody right here and I'm going to roll them out and going to give everybody a pardon. I think he loves to rap people and he's probably like, you know, J.D. he really wants one of these pardons. And Todd, you better keep all those files locked up or you're not getting a pardon. I think he just completely dangles the carrot all of the time. But here's something worse in this reporting from Raw Story. Pop this up. Kylie, this girl that was Approached by Trump's goons in Trump Tower. She said she saw girls as young as 15 or 16 being approached in Trump Tower. The interview remained buried in Epstein files released under Trump's own Department of Justice. Trump has not been charged in connection with the allegations. The White House has stated that Trump is, quote, totally exonerated. No formal exoneration has been issued. But think about the patterns of all of this listener and Angie, that she saw other of Trump's employees approaching girls as young as 15 or 16 years old around and or near Trump Tower. And she reported this in 2021 to the FBI. The reason I think that there's a lot of veracity in this claim is because it is a pattern that we see over and over and over through the files. The same type of thing happened to young 15 and 16 year old girls in Palm Beach. And think about it like this. Trump, I love Jeffrey Epstein. He's my best friend. Jeffrey Epstein loves 15 year old girls. Hey, you know Larry and Mo go down and pick up 15 year old girls and tell them to go to this address and tell them if they're hot to bring somebody who looks just like him. How many times have we heard that? Something very similar. You can watch the Jeffrey Epstein documentary. This, this is the playbook.
Co-host
Well, and it doesn't surprise me about the death threats either, either. Look, Trump has been held liable two times in federal court after he was the President of the United States for defamation because he can't shut the and stop spreading lies about someone. He does it on his true social as the sitting President of the United States. So this kind of, of course he did it. That's how he behaves.
Main Host
Yeah. And then the final slide here you guys, to pump's point, Trump and Epstein socialized in New York and Palm beach for years. For years, for years they did this. And think about the birthday letter. Think about the intimacy in that letter that was released by the Wall Street Journal. There was an intimacy of knowledge and the drawing. And Donald Trump started the war in Iran in my opinion, to wag the tail of the dog away from this. And then what happened? The economy, it just starts all falling apart. Midterms are rolling up and we have to keep the pressure on the Epstein files because this is a sitting President of the United States who is covering up the crimes of his best friend and his own potential involvement in it. And in this cover up there are more crimes being committed by our government. All right, it's pretty up today. I would like for you to pre order my book. Not today Fascist. I always do it the wrong way. The lies that got us here and the truth that will reunite us. I dedicated to Donald Trump, the incompetent fascist. And let's hope that his incompetence is what saves us. Like and subscribe we'll be back later with more news.
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Episode Title: Disgusting New Allegations Surface; Trump Thugs Are Threatening Survivors?
Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Date: June 21, 2026
In this intense and unflinching episode, Jennifer and Angie tackle newly surfaced allegations from the Epstein files, focusing on explosive claims of sex trafficking recruitment linked to Trump Tower and the ongoing entanglement between Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein. The hosts dissect buried FBI interview details, discuss broader patterns of abuse among America’s ultra-wealthy, and connect these allegations to political cover-ups, survivor intimidation, and a chilling culture of entitlement and impunity. Their signature mix of biting humor, outrage, and unapologetic progressive commentary drives a compelling exploration of how the nation grapples with powerful men evading accountability.
RAW Story Report: The FBI had a 2021 interview (recently resurfaced) where a woman claimed recruiters operated out of Trump Tower in the early 1990s, targeting young women for Jeffrey Epstein with ties to Donald Trump.
Pattern of Predatory Behavior: Angie (“Pumps”) expresses little surprise, given Trump’s documented treatment of women, referencing prior sexual assault accusations.
Entrapment at Trump Tower: Victim states she worked at a shoe boutique in Trump Tower when approached by two men suggesting a meeting with Trump, implying sex was expected.
Connection to Pyramid Scheme Tactics: The request that she “bring a friend who looked like her” mirrors Epstein’s patterns in Palm Beach, hinting at a disturbing recruitment structure.
Trump and Epstein’s Ties: The hosts emphasize Trump’s close friendship with Epstein, dismantling the narrative that the two were distant or morally opposed.
Consistent Testimony: Host notes the credibility due to the repeated nature of the allegations, across geographies and years, with similar recruitment tactics and young victims (often as young as 15).
Control Over the Files: More than 3 million pages of Epstein-related files are held by the DOJ, under Trump’s personal attorney Todd Blanche, who is suspected of keeping files secret to curry favor or for future political leverage.
Wider Pattern: The woman interviewed by the FBI said girls as young as 15 or 16 were regularly approached in Trump Tower, matching evidence from Palm Beach.
Trump’s Disposition: Discusses the president's alleged tactics of carrot-and-stick with his team (using potential pardons as leverage), and his history of intimidation against those pursuing accountability.
Survivor Threats: Angie notes that threats against survivors and witnesses, including death threats, are consistent with Trump’s post-presidential behavior, particularly on social media.
Political Cover-Up Allegations: The hosts allege that Trump’s administration and current allies are actively suppressing and cherry-picking files to protect the former and sitting president and close associates.
Call to Action: The episode closes with a rallying cry to maintain pressure for truth and accountability regarding the Epstein files and broader abuses of power.
On Trump’s Relationship to Epstein:
Main Host (05:56):
“He likes… young ones. And that’s on video of Trump saying that.”
On the Evidence Pattern:
Main Host (09:30):
“Trump… loves Jeffrey Epstein. He’s my best friend. Jeffrey Epstein loves 15 year old girls… This is the playbook.”
On Accountability:
Main Host (11:38):
“This is a sitting President of the United States who is covering up the crimes of his best friend and his own potential involvement in it. And in this cover-up, there are more crimes being committed…”
The hosts’ tone remains deeply critical, often incredulous and passionate, laced with biting sarcasm and outright anger at the alleged abuses and cover-ups. Both Jennifer and Angie balance stark details with moments of dark humor, aiming to both inform and rally progressive listeners against what they see as systemic injustice and impunity among the powerful.
This summary covers all substance and contentious discussions in the episode, encapsulating the main arguments and emotions — ideal for listeners wanting a thorough understanding without listening.