Disgusting Teacher Tries Reporting 5-Year-Old To ICE; Goes Full Karen When Confronted

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Episode Summary: "Disgusting Teacher Tries Reporting 5-Year-Old To ICE; Goes Full Karen When Confronted"

Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Air date: February 7, 2026

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Overview

In this incisive and darkly comedic episode, Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan break down a viral phone call in which a kindergarten teacher tries to report the undocumented status of a student’s parents, intent on getting them deported—even though their five-year-old child is a U.S. citizen. The hosts analyze the attitudes behind such bigoted actions, explore the impact of political propaganda on everyday people, and connect the incident to broader historical and social currents—drawing parallels to Nazi-era rhetoric and 21st-century American political realities.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Viral ‘Deportation Hotline’ Call

• Set-up: The hosts air and dissect a recording orchestrated by comedian Ben Palmer, who created a fake “illegal immigrant reporting hotline” to highlight how ordinary people internalize and act on anti-immigrant propaganda.

  • (00:35–02:43, 04:38–06:06, 10:54–12:15)

• The Teacher’s Call:

  • The teacher expresses discomfort and suspicion about a family—“it’s odd for them to even be here”—because of their Hispanic background, despite the child being born in New York.
  • She justifies her actions by claiming “they’re taking up resources from our county.”
  • When Palmer summarizes her intentions to “deport the parents…and leave the child,” she becomes defensive:
    • Quote: “You make it sound terrible.” (02:58, Teacher)
    • Palmer responds dryly: “I’m just writing down what you’re telling me.” (03:01, Palmer)
  • When Palmer sarcastically notes “it’s good because we don’t have to deport a six year old…that little fella could have been a threat to our national security,” she bristles and repeatedly asks to speak to a supervisor (04:58–05:28).

• Turning ‘Karen’:

  • The teacher’s attitude shifts from smugly righteous to aggrieved and indignant once confronted with the cold logic and sarcasm that reflect her cruelty.
    • Quote: “Why are you talking to me like this?” (05:08, Teacher)
  • When told the family is documented, she switches to feigned relief (“I am happy. I’m super happy.” —11:00), but doubles down on her victimhood, complaining about “attitude.”

2. Propaganda’s Reach: From Policy to Everyday Bigotry

• Host Analysis:

  • Jennifer and Angie stress that such bigoted behavior isn’t fringe or isolated—it’s normalized by political rhetoric:
    • Quote: “The administration is providing bigots like this kindergarten teacher…a permission structure to be racist.” (03:16, Jennifer)
  • They compare MAGA talking points about “resources” to Nazi propaganda, specifically speeches by Stephen Miller.
    • Quote: “Stephen Miller gives this speech...that mirrors a Nazi propaganda speech about, you know, our schools…if I give them resources, they take my resources.” (07:11, Pumps)

• Dehumanization and Lack of Empathy:

  • The teacher’s case exemplifies how “weaponizing empathy against us” actually breeds a lack of it, allowing people to feel justified even in cruel actions toward children.
    • “She is far more concerned with him…just getting…not taking, but him receiving.” (08:46, Jennifer)
  • Repeated calls to “put a mirror up” to such people, since direct confrontation reveals the moral ugliness lurking beneath seemingly reasonable facades. (08:46, 12:15, Jennifer)

3. Historical Parallels and Broader Reflections

• Comparisons to History:

  • The hosts draw analogies to public passivity under Nazi Germany—“We always talk about, when we studied World War II, why didn’t anybody do anything? Because a lot of people are just like this kindergarten teacher.”
  • They mention the lack of public reaction to other abuses, such as the Epstein case, as another sign of societal apathy toward suffering not perceived as directly personal.

• Widespread, Systemic Attitudes:

  • Jennifer and Angie emphasize these beliefs are “abundant and reinforced by propaganda,” not marginal.
    • Quote: “There is a massive, massive network of people that have bought into the propaganda...these people are not worthy of an education. These people are less than.” (13:14, Jennifer)
  • Discussion of the “evangelical world” being “morally depraved” and now influential at the highest levels of government. (15:22, Jennifer)
  • Angie laments the perverse redefinition of Christian values:
    • “The MAGA people in my life…go straight down the line of all of Jesus’s teaching…feel the exact same way this woman does.” (13:43, Pumps)

4. Call to Action

• Reflection and Resistance:
  • Jennifer highlights the need for personal confrontation and resistance to these attitudes, warning: “All I can tell all of you is run, run as fast as you can. No one is safe in these circles, not even a six year old kindergartner.” (15:22)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “You make it sound terrible.” — Kindergarten Teacher (02:58)
• “I’m just writing down what you’re telling me.” — Palmer (03:01)
• “Why are you talking to me like this?” — Kindergarten Teacher (05:08)
• “She wants to speak to a supervisor…she, Karen’s him and…” — Jennifer (06:14)
• “I think she's a piece of… But like she says, ‘I don't want this child, these people taking our resources.’” — Angie (07:11)
• “She is far more concerned with him…not taking, but receiving.” — Jennifer (08:46)
• “We have to continue to put a mirror up to maga… to people that cherry pick what they care about…” — Jennifer (12:15)
• “There is a massive, massive network of people that have bought into the propaganda…these people are less than.” — Jennifer (13:14)
• “The MAGA people in my life…feel the exact same way this woman does.” — Angie (13:43)
• “All I can tell all of you is run, run as fast as you can. No one is safe in these circles, not even a six year old kindergartner.” — Jennifer (15:22)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:35–03:16: Initial teacher phone call and Palmer’s mirror technique
• 04:38–06:06: Teacher’s discomfort, “Karen” moment, and Palmer’s sarcasm
• 07:11–08:46: Angie’s analysis, historical analogies, discussion of propaganda
• 12:15–13:43: Deeper reflections on societal empathy, MAGA ideologies
• 15:22: Final warnings and reflections on broader political implications

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Tone & Language

The episode uses a frank, irreverent, and emotionally charged tone. Jennifer and Angie don’t hold back their anger, using strong, explicit language to condemn bigotry. The critique is both analytical and personal, blending comedy and outrage for a compelling and relatable feel.

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Conclusion

This episode uses a real-life case study to expose and analyze the mundane banality of evil—how ordinary people become participants in systems of cruelty, justified by propaganda and social conditioning. The hosts call for listeners to recognize and challenge such attitudes in their own communities, offering both a warning and a call to activism.

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

All right? We focus all the time on how morally depraved this regime is, how they're able to dehumanize people. How they are is a whole ecosystem of people that are in this. And it's easy to pick on Trump, it's easy to pick on Vance, because these people are psychopaths and just the horrible, most horrible people on the planet. But Ben Palmer has been digging into the cult members to understand when people see immigrants, how do you have no empathy towards them? And so I'm going to play for you what he did. This is fascinating. Stay locked into this video, because this is going to give you some psychology on the cultist. Start the clip. Kylie.

[C]

Own hotline for reporting illegal immigrants. And people call it thinking that it's legitimate. I talked to a kindergarten teacher that wants to deport the parents of a kindergartner at her school, and it looks like they have a child who was born in New York, which makes them an American citizen.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So we're looking to deport the parents and leave the child.

[D]

Right. Like I said, I don't know if they're here illegally.

[E]

I'm just.

[D]

I just think it's odd, you know? It's very odd.

[C]

What did you say was odd?

[D]

It's just odd for them to even be here. Like, I. I'm a teacher at a school, okay? I know schools. I know the whole law about schools. I mean, they seem like nice people or whatever, but I looked him up in our files, and I was like, oh, she was born in Honduras and he's born in El Salvador. So right there it's like, okay, maybe I'm on the right path. You know, they drop off their kid every day.

[C]

So their kid. Is their kid a student at your school?

[D]

Yeah, yeah, kindergarten.

[C]

Okay. And so now you want to get his parents deported?

[D]

Well, I'm just saying, if they're taking up resources from our county, okay. I'm not into illegal people being here.

[C]

I mean, if the son's in kindergarten, what is six or seven, right?

[D]

Yeah, he's probably like five or six.

[C]

And it was born in New York. So that means, assumingly, they've been in America for six or seven years.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And now we're gonna go ahead and just remove them.

[D]

Are you like questioning that or what do you.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, sorry. No, I'm just writing this down for my own personal notes. And my supervisor teaches at school, wants kindergarten child's parents deported.

[D]

You make it sound terrible. You make it sound like it's terrible. But.

[C]

Oh well, I'm just writing down what you're telling me.

[D]

Okay, why don't. Yeah, yeah, okay, set.

[C]

Sounds terrible. Let's see. I can write that down too, I guess. And that's Hispanic. In an area where you wouldn't normally see Hispanics.

[D]

Okay, right. Like people from that are born in another country.

[B]

Yeah, okay, pause it right there and let's. This goes on and it gets even more diabolical. But did you see how when he just repeats what her desires are that she's like, oh, wait a minute, you make it sound terrible. This is why everybody has to understand when we play these videos of the administration propagandizing, I say this is intentional because they don't say things plain spoken like he is back to her. The administration is providing bigots like this kindergarten teacher who doesn't give a shit about this kid because he's the only brown skinned kid in kindergarten. She thinks that he shouldn't be able to go to school because his parents. She looked it up. She went into the school files and she looked it up. So this is an insight into how effective the propaganda is that you see J.D. vance, Pam Bondi, Stephen Miller, Fox News use. And then our instinct is, oh my God, can you believe they're saying this stuff? It's important that we understand they're saying it to this kindergarten teacher who's looking for a permission structure to be racist and to marginalize a five year old. Continue with the clip.

[C]

People.

[D]

Where like in the cities.

[C]

Got it. Okay. Hispanics out of place now in country, not where they belong in city. So we were able to confirm that they are documented citizens along with their child.

[D]

Oh, good.

[C]

So yeah, it's good because we don't have to deport a six year old. And yeah, I mean, you know, that little fella could have been a threat to our national security.

[D]

Why are you talking to me like this?

[C]

Say again?

[D]

Why do you talk to me like this?

[C]

I'm sorry, what are you referring to?

[D]

Like, you're like sarcastic.

[C]

Oh, okay. I mean I just thought that maybe you'd be okay and just happy that the people that you reported were actually here legally and that they Belong just like you and me.

[D]

Did I talk to your supervisor? You said you had a supervisor.

[C]

Yeah, I sorry, I just thought you were going to be happy.

[D]

Yeah, I'm happy. I am happy, but I'm not happy with your attitude. You just said to me the 6 year old won't be a threat to national security. Yeah, that was, that's sarcastic.

[C]

I would think that the people that were deporting, especially 6 year olds, that there would be a good reason for it.

[D]

I was talking about the people who I thought was. They're illegal because they were born in a different country. I can't help that they have a six year old that's on them.

[C]

You know what we'll do? I'll get in touch with the supervisor. I send him a text. When he gets back to me, I'll see if he can follow.

[B]

Okay, stop right there. Before we get to the supervisor call, do you notice that she thinks she can be a piece of shit?

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

And then when he responds back to her, she, the white supremacy takes over. And then she, Karen's him and she wants to speak to a supervisor because he. Very calmly. And this is a comedian who set up a deportation line to see who would call in. And a kindergarten teacher called in. And so, you know, we always talk about pumps. And I do like when we studied World War II, why didn't anybody do anything? And when you study it, you realize, because a lot of people are just like this kindergarten teacher. They're exactly like this kindergarten teacher. Pumps will say, you know, why was it? Why wasn't anybody do anything about Jeffrey Epstein? Because a lot of people just go along with abuses and moral depravity and take no issue with it. And so pumps, what's your take on this gal so far?

[E]

What's what jumped? I mean, first of all, I think she's a piece of. But like she says, I don't want this child, these people taking our resources. And going back to the 1930s, you know, Stephen Miller gives this speech, I've seen him give it several different time, that mirrors a Nazi propaganda speech about, you know, our schools. We, you can't get an education because they're taking our resources. You can't you get better hospital care because they're taking our resources. So it's like she believes all the bullshit about if I give it to an immigrant, the resources of school, the resources of health care, then I can't have it. Like she believes in what Stephen Miller continues to say, which parrots Nazi propaganda in that you can take My resource. If I give them resources, they take my resources. And that narcissism that goes with that. And then I thought, here you are, a fucking kindergarten teacher and you were willing to inflict generational trauma on this child. What do you think is going to happen to a kindergartener if their parents are ripped away and shipped off to another country? Leaving that child who's an American citizen here, what happens to him? Like just as twat all day long and twice on Sunday. And here's the thing, like you said, there are so many people that just go straight down the line with this, that see no problem of it.

[B]

Well, first and foremost, she doesn't care. And it's not that it's taking resources from her. It's deeper and worse than that. He's brown skinned and he's not worthy of humanity. The issue is that she is far more concerned with him getting, just getting, not taking, but him receiving. I guarantee you this lady goes to church. I guarantee you. And I know this type of white woman. I've had to deal with this type of white woman my whole life, my whole experience in Oklahoma. And you can sit and bang your head on a, on a lamppost all day long and think, why do these women not care about somebody else's child? But they are abundant. And the reinforced propaganda, propaganda from this regime to use women to come out and say they're weaponizing empathy against us and they're weaponizing compassion against us. It's just going to create more and more monsters. And sadly, I've had conversations similar to this with people about health care, about gay marriage and they simply have looked me right in the face and said, I don't care, my child is not going to be gay or I have health care and so I don't care if other people have health care or not. This is taught and reinforced. And she faced he that all that guy did is put a mirror up to her. That's all he did. He repeated what she said and put a mirror up to her and she didn't like it. And the lesson here is that we have to put mirrors up to people around us. We have to put mirrors up to people in our lives. There is many resistance that can happen because we have a cultural cancer in this country that is growing and metastasizing all over the place. This cult. It's easy to just look at the administration. It's easy to look at the rubes that rush the Capitol. It's deeper and bigger than that. I believe our numbers are more. But these People are diabolical and ambitious. Okay, continue with the clip.

[C]

His name, his name is Brian. But yeah, thought you'd be happy to know that they're documented. But we'll have the.

[D]

I am happy. I'm super happy. I'm super happy. I'm glad. You know, that's wonderful.

[C]

Well, it's good, you know, the six year old can stay in the school and you know, I know it's tough looking at him and. But yeah, we'll get on. My supervisor just give you a call back. And a little bit my understudy here said you were having some issues with him about some out of place Hispanics.

[D]

Something like that. Yeah.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

You sound exactly like Greg. Okay. I just didn't like his attitude.

[C]

I really do apologize for that. Looks like Brian said we did confirm the document status of these individuals and we're happy we're able to do that for you despite the sarcasm and the things that you're complaining about.

[D]

Okay, yeah, I'm glad, like I'm glad that they're fine folks and belong here and all that good stuff. But he's like criticizing me because there was a six year old boy involved.

[E]

You know what I mean?

[D]

But he's like acting like it, like I'm this terrible person because I'm going to deport a six year old. And in fact he goes today, he goes, you know, because a six year old would be a threat to national security.

[B]

So again, somebody put a mirror up to this woman. And the lesson in that is we have to continue to put a mirror up to maga. We have to continue to put a mirror up to the religious hypocrisy that is the bulk of this cult. We have to continue to put a mirror, mirror up to people that cherry pick what they care about and when they care about it and as it relates to them. And I just thought this was a really fascinating case study because we oftentimes forget that the people who support. You think, who could support a six year old being deported? A kindergarten teacher. Yeah, you know there, there is a massive, massive network of people that have bought into the propaganda that I can't have empath and that it's not just that these immigrants, they're. We're way past the criminal aspect of it. We're way past. They're taking stuff from me.

[E]

Right.

[B]

We are at the state where these people are not worthy of an education. These people are less than and they are not worthy of anything in this country. It's just, it's so cruel and, and I can't believe that this movement has reached the top pillars of the federal government. You want to know why nobody cares about Jeffrey Epstein? They have supporters like this that don't care about a kindergartner.

[E]

Yeah, it's, it's pretty stunning because the MAGA people in my life that would go straight down the line of all of Jesus's teaching of helping the sick, feeding the poor, all that stuff, feel the exact same way this woman does. When they, you know, by consuming the news, they consume voting the way that they do, they are easily like broadcasting. I don't have to have empathy for anybody but me. And I know that's how they feel about it because I've asked about it and I was indoctrinated that unless this directly affects me or my wallet, I don't give a shit. And I am entitled not to give a shit because I am chosen and my personal relationship with God trumps everybody else's. So that makes it real, real easy to demean other people. When you have elevated your position that you are not only able to judge other people and criticize, you are able to dehumanize them, but you are entitled to do it. And, and I'm with you. The fact that this is in the, all over the government, it's fucking terrifying. Especially when you think the separation of church and state were the pillars of how this nation was founded. And all these constitutionalists and patriots, they're the ones that say, fuck it, we don't want that anymore. We don't want freedom of religion, we don't want freedom of speech, we don't want you to read whatever books you want to read because we want to control you.

[B]

Yeah, I've lived in this world my whole life and I tried very hard to carve out in Oklahoma City progressive friends, gay friends, African American friends, to create my own world. And I was able to do so. But this is not new to America. This is just new to this being in the federal government. This is. People have set up their lives exactly the way the federal government is set up and are deeply embedded and surrounded by people like. And all I can tell all of you is run, run as fast as you can. No one is safe in these circles, not even a six year old kindergartner. I mean, can you imagine a kindergarten teacher? Can you imagine if your child had to go and that's one of the teachers in their lives? It's just this whole evangelical world is something that is so morally depraved, it's hard to even continue to come up to words with, with words for it because it's just so demented and it's so devastating that when I grew up in Oklahoma, I always knew a federal government, even a Republican federal government, would protect red states from their worst impulses. And that's gone. That guardrail is completely gone. All right. That's all we have. Like, subscribe, Comment. Tell us what you think about this guy's social experiment. I think it's incredible. And about the fascist collaborators that live among us. Like, here's a woman, this kindergarten teacher, a capitalist that has no capital, who will die on the Hill for these crazy fascists. Let us know what you think, and we'll be back later with more news.