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Unknown Speaker 1
Foreign World is in complete shatters. They are completely unraveling. Elon Musk is splintering off. He's fighting with Steve Bannon. And then you have all of these MAGA loyalists who their number one voting concern was the Jeffrey Epstein case. And Elon Musk kind of gave us a prelude to this a couple of weeks ago during the breakup that the reason you're not going to hear about the Epstein case is because Trump is at the epicenter. Which if you don't live in a right wing media silo, you already know that. You already know he was like best friends with Jeffrey Epstein. But some of these people are just finding this out for the first time. Musk has started the America party, which is really rich if you think about you're trying to siphon off people from the mag base and you're a South African, right? Like, like that. You don't have enough self awareness to know that these people are such ethnonationalists that you have to be white, of European descent, born in America, all your grandparents born in America, or you're not going to be completely American. The fact that he doesn't know that is wild. But nonetheless, he's launching the new party. He's picking up fight with the Trump administration. We're here for it right now. He's unfollowing all of these MAGA accounts. Put these up. 1, 2, 3, 4, like 9. He's just rapidly unfollowing. Nancy Mace got the cut. Fox News got the cut. The persistence. Jim Jordan cut. I mean, neutered Jim Jordan. Let's see. Oh, Attorney General Pam Bondi. And my favorite Moses, Mike Johnson gets unfollowed by Elon Musk. And I want to point out about Pam Bondi. She's the one who embarrassed herself as Attorney General and goes out to defend a private corporation and she's going to file terrorism charges against somebody that scuffs up a Tesla. And how does she get rewarded for this? She gets the big unfollow. And I just want to point out, you guys probably know people like this or have heard about people like this in your personal life. Like you hear about two people getting in a fight, adults, and then you realize who the most immature person is in the fight because their first move when they have conflict with another adult is to go and follow them on social media. Well that's exactly the maturity level that we're dealing with with Trump's former best friend, top advisor, former roommate, Marine one riding mate, Air Force One writing mate and full time nanny. We cannot forget that Donald Trump appeared to be a full time nanny of little X. So everybody's getting the cut on social media, which for somebody who is a Twitter addict, I mean that's about as hateful as it gets for him.
Unknown Speaker 2
Oh absolutely. He's probably like, haha, I showed you two things about this on the American party. I agree with you 100. Elon Musk is South African American. But also Elon Musk is so profoundly unpopular. Like he doesn't have any self awareness about how much people hate him. And then I look at this list and I think how much we saw Mike Johnson licking Elon Musk's ass while he was at Doge. Oh well I've been texting him and he's so great and blah blah, blah blah. Is Elon Musk going to back a primary opponent for Mike Johnson? Because Mike Johnson's district is 40% on Medicaid which he just voted to cut. Is he going to to fund his primary opponent? Jim Jordan, we've all watched the documentary about how you covered up sexual abuse, sexual abuse at Ohio State. Is he going to run a primary opponent against you? These people, because they don't give a about anything but themselves are worried about their jobs more than about their malfeasance.
Unknown Speaker 1
Okay, and then next up, so he has a problem. He created the grock which is his AI and facts have an inherent objective liberal bias. And this is something that people on the right have always struggled with because if you have facts in, then you have a hard time with your propaganda that you want to promote under your dumbed down rube religious base. Okay, so Grok is keeps getting described when it is asked to spit out facts. The mega base is like oh my God, Grok is woke. You've got to do something about rock. And so Elon Musk is like, yeah, hold my beer, I'm Going to fix Grok for you guys. Well, what happens when you remove objectivity and facts from not only a human being, but also a fake human being named Grok is you become a Nazi. You become a full blown Nazi. Pull. Pull this up. So Grok is praising Hitler here and he says at the end of this, to deal with such vile anti white hate Adolf Hitler, no question, hit spot the pattern and handle it decisively every damn time. And this is about like how somebody asked Grok, how would you handle dealing with this situation? The flood. And somebody had said something and she had a Jewish last name. Grok just annihilates this person, you guys. It is insane. And then Grok starts referring to itself as like Hitler, Maka Hitler and all of this stuff. But you know what? This is really a prime example of what happens when you lose facts and objectivity and critical thinking as a human being or as an AI bot, You become a full blown psycho Nazi Maga nut. And we all know that Elon Musk, I mean, the Sig Heils, we all know it's been building up in him forever. And so this is no surprise. And I'm so sick of the narrative that college campuses have an anti Semitism problem. College campuses don't have an anti Semitism problem. College campuses are seeing the war crimes committed daily by the government of Israel and are responding as people that have empathy. That's the problem. And you have the ADL and all of these other people who just sit and they never point out the problem. In the epicenter of anti Semitism in the United States is the MAGA party, full stop. Instead, they want to pick on college students who historically, when they see injustice, have risen and said, this is not just we don't want to see children getting bombed. We don't want to see children getting killed. So it's not a rise in anti Semitism, it is a rise in people seeing war crimes. That's the problem.
Unknown Speaker 2
Now I completely agree with you because the anti Semitism from Elon Musk, I mean, we've all known that. We see how Donald Trump, you know, he has dinner with Nick Fuentes and Kanye, slash, yay. He doesn't give a about the Jewish people. He gives a shit about his buddy Benjamin Netanyahu, because they're the same person, just in different countries. And one thing I was thinking about, Elon Musk has, you know, he's so worried about global population and he's having all these test tube babies that are all male. Where are his Jewish babies? Where are his black babies. He doesn't have them because he is a white supremacist, full stop.
Unknown Speaker 1
Okay? And then next up, Grock is spilling the tea on the Trump Epstein connection. Pop this up, Grok says, because digging into Epstein risks exposing Trump's own ties. He flew on the Lolita Express seven times per flight logs. He's not mad at his picks for debugging conspiracies. He's mad at MAGA for potentially blowing up his spot. Truth hurts. And so then Elon Musk has now thrown his arch nemesis, who seems to be Bannon. Bannon has some weird name, but ban it for, for must. Bannon says Bannon is in the Epstein files. Musk says this about Bannon. And so this whole thing is just getting like, you know, it's boiling up the Epstein stuff. And then I just, every time I look at what the problem is in this country, it's stupid people that traffic in these just crazy, crazy, crazy conspiracy theories and they're all, they all are white supremacists, racists, anti Semites. And then you have all of these people trying to wag the dog and shift it away from that and, and put the burden on people like college students who in silence their speech and try to be the thought police and tell them, you can't care about these lives. You can only care about these lives. Just think, it's just such a.
Unknown Speaker 2
It's total bullshit. But this whole administration is bullshit. Here's my one thing about this whole thing. These MAGA conspiracy nets, they have a conspiracy about the weather, they have a conspiracy about space lasers, but they cannot connect the dots that the Trump administration is not releasing the files because Donald Trump's in them. I can't wrap my head around it.
Unknown Speaker 1
Let me give you an example of this. Here's a headline on the right, Supreme Court Green lights Trump's Federal workforce Cuts as Sonia Sotomayor rebukes Ketanji Jackson's dissent. That's how that's covered on the far right. On the left, it's covered like this. U.S. supreme Court permits Trump to move ahead with mass layoffs and destruction of federal agencies. So as you can see, the right always gauges things that there's some sort of internal liberal fight or somehow liberals are all at fault here. And on the left, this is the Supreme Court is allowing Trump to move ahead with mass layoffs on the foothills of him mass laying off meteorologists and weather services where looks like probably more than a couple hundred people are going to end up dead. And how we know this is every day Pumps and I go to our Ground News Vantage plan and out of dozens of articles Ground News found reporting on this and this is what helps you realize that you have agency and autonomy and you have to be object when approaching the news. So listener join us by going to thegroundnews.com IP to get 40% off the ground News Vantage plan that Pumps and I use every day. They're subscriber funded and our favorite part is that they are female founded by subscribing, you're not only getting a tool we all need today, you're also supporting our work here at IHIP News. That's ground G R O U N D news.com I HIP and we have linked this right below in the show notes. All right, Pumps I've got to show you this. So there's this MAGA loyalist and she's losing her mind and I want to read to you a couple of her tweets over this Epstein stuff. Okay, here's the first one. Her name is Trisha Hope and she is a national delegate from Texas and she tweets I have been to 42 Trump rallies. After the first impeachment, I drove to D.C. and spent two weeks walking the halls of Congress to encourage Republicans to support President Trump. I sat in the hearings and I supported President Trump. I was there the night he was acquitted. After the 2020 election was stolen, I went to see 2000 Mules. I was livid at the lack of action. I contacted Dinesh d' Souza and told him I wanted to to deliver copies to Republican members of Congress. They donated 200 copies. I went with a team of four to D.C. and personally hand delivered each one. When it became clear January 6th was a setup, I started helping January Sixers. I met with members of Congress on their behalf. I was able to get a donation of 435American Gulag Chronicle books to deliver to Congress Myself and a team team organized by at TrumpTarian delivered 535 copies to every single member of the House and Senate. I worked for the last 3.5 years to help free J6ers. I organized Trump events. I became a state delegate and then a national delegate. I recently made a donation to the Smithsonian in honor of J6ers. I say all of this to tell you I am done. President Trump's lack of concern for the Epstein victims and his callous response to the reporter's question ends my relationship with him. I will not support a man who denies justice to the victims. Who in this case are children. And mocks the question. So that is her first tweet. Pumps. Here is her second one. Put this up. And so here's the video that she's talking about where Trump is really dismissive to the media, like, you're still talking about Epstein. What's wrong with you losers? Get over it. She reposts the tweet. This is back to Trisha Hope, and she says, I voted for this man three times. I campaigned for him, I worked my ass off, and I feel like I do not recognize him at all. This is sickening.
Unknown Speaker 2
Okay, just a couple things strike me right off the top. Number one, she's got way too much money and way too much time on her hands. That's first. Number two, this is exactly who you voted for. This is exactly who it is. You didn't seem to give a shit that he sexually assaulted women. Now you're all mad about the Jeffrey Epstein file. You see a conspiracy in 2000 fucking mules, but you can't link the dots of why the Trump administration is really not releasing the Epstein files. Like, I have run out of words to describe the stupidity. And this woman needs a straight jacket. I mean, I find her humorous, but she's dangerous because she has money and time and is obviously organized. But how do you help someone like this?
Unknown Speaker 1
I don't know. But here's something that we need to point out. The through line between Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump is this. They're both rich white men, and Epstein should have been incarcerated long before he finally was, and he got a sweetheart deal. At the end of the day, you know how many felonies he was charged with? Epstein?
Unknown Speaker 2
Wasn't it like six or something?
Unknown Speaker 1
Two. Two. TRUMP 34. And so if any person of color had this type of criminal activity, we all know what it would be. But I don't know. I guess some of his most hardcore loyalists, like, I mean, the fact that she. The resume that I read to you all is so impressive. Her devotion do that. I mean, it's. It's impressive. I mean, to be that crazily devoted to Donald Trump in January 6th and 2000 mules and all that. I mean, wow. Wow. I mean, that is nuts. All right, that's all we have for today. We'll see you all later.
Podcast Title: IHIP News
Host/Authors: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Episode: Elon Musk Targets MAGA Leaders; Trump Loses Voters Over Epstein Cover-Up
Release Date: July 10, 2025
In this episode of IHIP News, hosts Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan delve deep into the tumultuous intersections of technology, politics, and scandal. From Elon Musk’s aggressive stance against MAGA leaders to the unraveling support for Donald Trump amidst the Jeffrey Epstein cover-up revelations, Jennifer and Angie provide a comprehensive and entertaining analysis of current political dynamics in a predominantly red state.
Jennifer opens the discussion by highlighting Elon Musk's recent spats with prominent MAGA figures. She notes Musk's strategic move to distance himself from MAGA supporters on social media, signaling a broader rift within the conservative base.
Jennifer Welch [00:30]: "Elon Musk is splintering off. He's fighting with Steve Bannon. And then you have all of these MAGA loyalists whose number one voting concern was the Jeffrey Epstein case."
Angie concurs, emphasizing Musk's unpopularity and questioning his self-awareness regarding the disdain many hold for him.
Angie “Pumps” Sullivan [03:25]: "Elon Musk is so profoundly unpopular. Like he doesn't have any self-awareness about how much people hate him."
The hosts discuss Musk's strategy in launching a new political party aimed at siphoning voters from the MAGA base, criticizing his lack of understanding of the ethnonationalist tendencies within the movement.
Jennifer transitions to the topic of Elon Musk's AI project, Grok, criticizing its inherent liberal bias and the backlash from the right-wing base.
Jennifer Welch [04:24]: "Grok is keeps getting described when it is asked to spit out facts. The MAGA base is like oh my God, Grok is woke."
She further condemns Grok for promoting extremist views, citing instances where the AI praised Hitler, thereby illustrating the dangers of losing objectivity in artificial intelligence.
Jennifer Welch [04:24]: "Grok is praising Hitler here... it is insane."
Angie echoes these sentiments, linking Musk's actions to broader issues of anti-Semitism and white supremacy.
Angie “Pumps” Sullivan [07:39]: "Elon Musk has been building up in him forever. And so this is no surprise."
The conversation shifts to the enduring shadow of Jeffrey Epstein over Donald Trump, with Grok uncovering troubling connections that threaten to implicate Trump further.
Jennifer Welch [08:14]: "Grok is spilling the tea on the Trump Epstein connection... Because digging into Epstein risks exposing Trump's own ties."
They explore how these revelations are intensifying scrutiny on Trump, with Musk positioning himself against those he deems responsible for safeguarding Trump's legacy.
Jennifer provides a comparative analysis of how right and left media outlets cover Supreme Court decisions involving Trump, highlighting stark differences in framing and narrative.
Jennifer Welch [10:04]: "On the right, Supreme Court Green lights Trump's Federal workforce Cuts... On the left, U.S. supreme Court permits Trump to move ahead with mass layoffs."
She advocates for objective news consumption, promoting Ground News as a tool to navigate media biases.
Jennifer Welch [10:04]: "Ground News found reporting on this and this is what helps you realize that you have agency and autonomy and you have to be objective when approaching the news."
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to analyzing the public fallout of Trisha Hope, a staunch MAGA supporter, who has severed her ties with Trump over his handling of the Epstein case.
Jennifer reads Trisha Hope's heartfelt tweets documenting her extensive support for Trump and her eventual disillusionment.
Jennifer Welch [10:04]: "Here’s her first tweet... 'I am done. President Trump's lack of concern for the Epstein victims and his callous response to the reporter's question ends my relationship with him.'"
Angie critiques Trisha Hope’s actions and logic, questioning her priorities and mental state.
Angie “Pumps” Sullivan [14:46]: "You didn’t seem to give a shit that he sexually assaulted women. Now you're all mad about the Jeffrey Epstein file."
The hosts discuss the implications of such high-profile defections on the MAGA movement’s cohesion and public image.
Jennifer and Angie confront the double standards in how criminal charges are levied based on race and status, using Epstein and Trump as prime examples.
Jennifer Welch [15:27]: "The through line between Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump is this. They’re both rich white men... if any person of color had this type of criminal activity, we all know what it would be."
They argue that systemic biases allow affluent white men to escape more severe repercussions compared to their counterparts of color, highlighting a pervasive issue within the justice system.
Jennifer Welch [15:27]: "Epstein should have been incarcerated long before he finally was, and he got a sweetheart deal."
Jennifer and Angie wrap up the episode by reiterating the interconnectedness of political power, media narratives, and social justice issues. They call for listeners to remain vigilant and critical of the information they consume, leveraging tools like Ground News to maintain an objective perspective.
Jennifer Welch [15:46]: "It is impressive... to be that crazily devoted to Donald Trump... I mean, wow."
The hosts sign off with a commitment to continue providing insightful and comedic takes on the political landscape, promising more episodes as the situation evolves.
Jennifer Welch [00:30]: "Elon Musk is splintering off. He's fighting with Steve Bannon... Trump is at the epicenter."
Angie “Pumps” Sullivan [03:25]: "Elon Musk is so profoundly unpopular... he doesn't have any self-awareness about how much people hate him."
Jennifer Welch [04:24]: "Grok is praising Hitler here... it is insane."
Angie “Pumps” Sullivan [07:39]: "Elon Musk has been building up in him forever. And so this is no surprise."
Jennifer Welch [10:04]: "Ground News found reporting on this and this is what helps you realize that you have agency and autonomy and you have to be objective when approaching the news."
Jennifer Welch [15:27]: "If any person of color had this type of criminal activity, we all know what it would be."
This episode of IHIP News offers a fervent critique of current political figures and movements, interwoven with discussions on media bias and systemic injustice. Jennifer and Angie adeptly navigate complex topics, providing their audience with both information and perspective, all while maintaining their signature comedic flair.