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Host 1
Foreign, dejected, in the fetal position, broken up with. It's Heartbreak Hotel for Elon Musk. Everybody on the planet has seen this man tripping his balls off on drugs multiple occasions, running around with a chainsaw, acting like a complete lunatic, showing up in the Oval with a shiner and his eyes rolling back into his head. So I think he's trying to get back into Trump's good graces. So overnight, it looks like he's taken a drug test and he's posted the results on Twitter because that seems perfectly normal for somebody who was at the epicenter of the federal government to do. Put this up. He posts his drug test and he puts lol. And yeah, Elon, that's just hilarious. It's hilarious that you are killing people by canceling usaid. It's hilarious that you dismantled the FAA and planes are crashing and families are suffering and they will never get their family members back. It's hilarious that you and your billionaire friends don't pay a cent in taxes and lie to the American public and tell them the reason they can't have nice things is because of immigrants and because of gay people and because of trans people. You're a piece of. You can take all the drug tests you want to. This is so important. Embarrassing. The decline of the United States of America gets more and more painful at every step of the way.
Host 2
I saw this and I immediately thought he had someone else take it or use someone else's urine because it's so loud around his drug use. And he thinks this is a big. Oh, I'll show you. This is a guy that cheats at video games. He hires somebody to play video games to make him better. So I don't believe for one second that he is negative for all these drugs. I just don't.
Host 1
Well, in that, let me just point this out. Normal people, like, nobody ever accused Barack Obama of being on drugs. And then he just randomly takes a drug test and puts it up. I have many people who have suffered from addiction. This is something that drug addicts are very familiar with. Drug testing, posting it, accountability. He is in the throes of a massive addiction K hole and he's taking the country down with it. And nobody in the Republican Party has any accountability for any of these untreated addicts that are running the federal government. Next up, it brings me to more MAGA cannibalism. In this clip, we have Tucker Carlson, who kind of in this clip you're going to see, it kind of seems like he's on drugs, but I Don't know. That's just my opinion. Steve Bannon. And they're cannibalizing Fox News. Get your popcorn.
Guest 1
What is that? That's not by popular acclaim. It's not like their viewer surveys. Like, you know, we need a lot more Mark Levin, less Jesse Waters, more Mark Levin. Mark Levin. What they're doing is what they always do, which is just turning up the propaganda hose to full blast and just trying to, you know, knock elderly FOX viewers off their feet and make them subdivide.
Host 1
Sometimes within the cult, they give up the game. And he just did. I mean, these guys are both complete whacked out nut jobs, but they know what they're doing. They know that Fox News is total propaganda. They know they're lying to the working class. And sometimes it slips out. And that's what slipped out here. Fox News lies to the tune of a billion dollars. And after that, just recently, they have rigged the audio of Trump's birthday party and injected applause where there was hardly any APPL laws. But Fox News has millions of viewers and the messaging and the lies and the propaganda trickle down for there. But sometimes these people that were inside the Death Star and, you know, now they're on, you know, four hour talking podcasts, sometimes the truth slips out. And in this instance, the truth is slipping out because there are cracks all over the MAGA regime because the population turned out and turned out big time on Saturday. So now they're starting to cannibalize each other. And the opposition to this is as united as ever.
Host 2
Sadly for me, I don't give Tucker Carlson any credit because I know he's a Russian propagandist, but this is so obvious. And I wonder when I see that. You see so many Americans that followed Tucker Carlson when he left Fox News, will they hear him say it's propaganda and will it make them think? Or do they just nosedive into the cruelty?
Host 1
There's, I think there's two different layers of maga. There are the Fox News people that just watch Fox News steady diet. And I would say that's like recreational drug use. And then you have the hardcore addicts that have graduated to Steve Bannon's war room and Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson. So you have two different levels of cult indoctrination, light use and heavy use. And so that's what's going to be interesting to watch, the cannibalization. Because it sounds like the podcasters are starting to attack Fox, which is a layup right now, because corporate media is dwindling and dwindling and dwindling. And I bet in a decade it's, you know, news channels like Fox, cnn, MSNBC will cease to exist. So it's going to be interesting to see how that plays out. But also, you have another podcast who has millions of followers, Candace Owens. She's cannibalizing with Trump here. Put this post up. Trump tweets, somebody please explain to kooky Tucker Carlson that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. Candace Owen retweets with comment, Donald Trump just completely fractured his base and he did it for the very neocons who minted the quote, never Trump movement. Truly unbelievable. So you have this, this really weird juxtaposition in the MAGA cult where these podcasters that put out crank out a ton of content a lot more than you and I do. I mean, their daily episodes are three and four hours and they have millions of views and they are going after Donald Trump. Now, Candace Owens goes after Donald Trump and she goes after Benjamin Netanyahu because at the core, she's an anti Semite, she's anti Semitic. So you have all of this really messed up MAGA logic that is all going to collide. Tucker Carlson seems to be providing cover for Iran here because, as you mentioned, he is a Putin propagandist. And Putin colludes with Iran because what they have in common is they want to squash Western dominance. So as all of these alliances get exposed, the cannibalism is just going to get juicier and juicier because this is the point where they're not all going to stay behind the cult leader for multiple reasons. Number one, he's a lame duck. Number two, he's not a spring chicken. Number three, he doesn't know shit from Shinola. One day he believes this, you know, let's deport everybody. The next day it's like, wait, hold up. Don't deport farm workers and don't deport hotel people. And then just last night, he even flipped on that again. So it's difficult for the cult to get behind him. When these podcasters are playing marathon, Trump's playing a sprint. And so these podcasters are trying to lay the psychological soil to keep the cult engaged. Beyond Maga. And it's the Beyond MAGA that the left needs to be focusing on as well, dismantling the entire ideology.
Host 2
I completely agree. And I find it interesting that so many people, I mean, I have read all over since this Israel and Iran, like, America first, America first, America first, Donald Trump. The reason Israel finally went after Iran is because they he has, Benjamin Netanyahu has no respect for Donald Trump. This war has been held at bay by all the presidents before Donald Trump. But they know he sucks. They know he will do nothing about it. So Trump is the reason we're in this situation right now. And I believe even the most die hard MAGA people, they are not. For now, let's spend all this money to fight this war because we're mad about how much money they're spending. We're spending in Ukraine. These are the same people. So he's going to have to bring them all together. And the reality is Marco Rubio knows the reason this happened is because Benjamin Netanyahu looked at Trump and said fuck off.
Host 1
Well, yeah, and Benjamin Netanyahu, props propaganda. And he has for several decades. I mean you can go back and find video of him in the early 2000s. Iran is just a year away from a nuclear weapon. Then four years later, we're just a few months away from a nuclear weapon. And then a couple years later we're on the cusp of a nuclear weapon. This is WMD all over again. And one thing the left and the right agree upon is nobody wants the United States of America fighting these senseless wars in the Middle East. And Benjamin Netanyahu knows, and I'm mark my words, they will do, somebody will do something provocative to lure the United States into this. That's just how this thing goes. They will wag the tail. There's going to be some hit somewhere on something American or one of our allies to lure us in and it's just going to be the biggest shit show. But Pumps, you are spot on. Netanyahu did it because America has never ever been weaker. And Donald Trump is a laughingstock and an absolute joke. Which brings me to Sununu and he was on CNN last night and he sensing all this fracturing going on and the cannibalism going on in the MAGA cult and he's trying to remind the base of who the cult leader is. This is so transparent. And he just does this and it's just, I guess they're all so stupid. I don't know, but it's as obvious as the nose on my face that he's just trying to remind the cult remember who the cult leader is. Watch this clip.
Guest 2
I mean, we were just talking about peace, right? Like Trump, it feels like he's a little bit at war with himself because he said all the time, I mean he wants to be known as the peacemaker, the, the guy who ends wars and yet here he finds himself defending another war.
Guest 3
Well, I don't know. I don't think Trump's defending the war. Trump's defending Israel's actions. And within a week or two, he's going to try to find an off ramp to bring it to peace. And as for Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon, they aren't, they do not define what the MAGA or the conservative base is. There's two idiot conspiracy theorists. The base, the MAGA base, the conservative base, believe me, they're all behind Trump. And that's it. He's the one that calls the shots on what kind of defines that MAGA base. And he's also.
Host 1
Okay, and that is just absolute gaslighting right there. I mean, that's just trying to nod to the people who can't think for themselves. Oh, the MAGA base is behind Trump. These guys are conspiracy theorists. And again, everything in the MAGA movement is incredibly short sighted. Like they want to just consolidate power behind Trump for, you know, a year to, if he makes it to four years. I mean, to me, his health looks like it is just in the shitter. I mean, I can't imagine his brain and his memory what it's going to be like a year from now. Because the dementia level that I'm seeing with my own eyes, with just his own speaking is so incredibly alarming. And the fact that this man, a former governor, is sitting there defending a mentally deranged, clearly dementia ridden man and saying, hey, yeah, let's support him in sending American troops over to another war in the Middle East. We all live through the show. That was wmd. And then one of the biggest of the biggest contributors, aside from Donald Trump, to our national deficit, is George W. Bush. George W. Bush lied. He went to the UN via Colin Powell and lied. And it was all about wmd. And we went to the wrong country and dismantled it, attacked them. And guess what the United States pays for over in Iraq? Health care. Guess who doesn't get health care over here? Americans. This is just. The American foreign policy is just as broken is the American economic policy. And so many people buy into Benjamin Netanyahu's propaganda because you know who the number one killer of children is in the world right now? Israel. So how do you mag Christians reconcile that? How do you reconcile that? It's just the moral ambiguity and the moral derangement within the MAGA movement is just deplorable. And then they want to go advertise, look at us, be a Democrat democracy like us. We're not a democracy. We're an oligarchy cosplaying as a democracy. That's what we are.
Host 2
No, I completely agree with you. And I do find it interesting that you have somebody like Governor Sununu making sure everybody knows Trump is the big dog while you have all of these MAGA people. I mean, I just can't even tell you the America first situation. I read an article last night where Trump is like, I, I determine what America first is. I'll tell you what's America First. And at some point, the ramifications of his behavior in terms of economic policy, foreign policy, it's all coming home to roost. And the American people are going to be the ones that pay for it. It's not going to be Elon Musk and the oligarchs. It's going to be the blue collar and middle class that has to pay more for everything that has to watch as US Soldiers and army, you know, have incidents which I worry about with Pete Hegseth. I have no confidence that America is ready to be in the Middle east fighting a war.
Host 1
And the American public is already suffering from this. The cracks behind what we're kind of seeing in the economy. Economists are saying it's way more broken than what's being represented in the numbers. And the Trump administration is going to cook the books. But let me leave you with something that should really be one of the most alarming, you know, MAGA is caused the left, communist socialists, all of this. Well, the Trump family is priming the American public and this is what authoritarians do. They prime you. They prime you to get ready. They are priming you for commun. Communism. And the communism is going to be. The Trump family owns everything. And now they've got a phone. Play the clip.
Guest 2
Morning.
Host 2
You've got an announcement on a new phone. Tell me about that. And what you're looking to quote, unquote correct here.
Guest 4
Yeah, well, you know, Maria, more and more we're using technology as a company, right. To correct the problems. Obviously Truth Social was to correct freedom of speech. Right. I mean, he lost his throughout the political process. Obviously crypto, and we have got the biggest projects in crypto was to correct another problem, which is the fact that they were debanking all conservatives is the most canceled person pointing out probably in the history of the country. And, and now we're doing Trump Mobile and, and Trump Mobile is going to revolutionize kind of, you know, cell phones, mobile calling.
Host 1
Okay. And you hear him say it right there. We, we created a social media that we own. Crypto and now the cell phones. And they're going to keep going. And they're going to keep going. They are priming their base for communism. That's what this is. They prime you for absolutely everything. They're putting the military so that the public gets used to seeing a militarized police force. They're priming their base. They've been prime. Priming them with the gold sneakers, the Trump trout, all the riff raffs and the knickknacks that this family sells. This is just staggering. The damage to the United States of America is staggering. All right, that's all we have for this episode. Please subscribe and we'll see you all later.
IHIP News Episode Summary
Episode Title: Elon's Pathetic Attempt to Win Trump Back; MAGA Implodes On Itself
Release Date: June 17, 2025
Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
In this intense and provocative episode of IHIP News, hosts Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan delve deep into the tumultuous state of the MAGA movement, critiquing key figures and dissecting the internal fractures threatening its cohesion. The discussion is animated, filled with sharp commentary and incisive analysis, aiming to uncover the underlying issues plaguing both the movement and the broader political landscape.
Jennifer Welch opens the conversation by lambasting Elon Musk, portraying him as a destabilizing figure attempting to mend ties with Donald Trump through questionable means. She paints a vivid picture of Musk’s erratic behavior, suggesting a possible substance abuse problem:
“Elon, that's just hilarious. It's hilarious that you are killing people by canceling usaid... The decline of the United States of America gets more and more painful at every step of the way.”
— Jennifer Welch at [00:00]
Angie Sullivan counters by expressing skepticism about Musk's drug test results, implying deceit:
“I saw this and I immediately thought he had someone else take it or use someone else's urine because it's so loud around his drug use... So I don't believe for one second that he is negative for all these drugs.”
— Angie Sullivan at [01:40]
Jennifer reinforces the argument by highlighting the systemic issues within the Republican Party, linking Musk's actions to broader governmental failures:
“Nobody in the Republican Party has any accountability for any of these untreated addicts that are running the federal government.”
— Jennifer Welch at [02:03]
The hosts navigate through the internal conflicts within the MAGA faction, focusing on prominent figures like Tucker Carlson and Steve Bannon. Jennifer Welch criticizes these leaders for perpetuating propaganda and sowing discord:
“They know that Fox News is total propaganda... sometimes the truth slips out here... the MAGA regime because the population turned out and turned out big time... So now they're starting to cannibalize each other.”
— Jennifer Welch at [02:57]
Angie Sullivan labels Tucker Carlson as a "Russian propagandist," questioning his integrity and influence:
“Sadly for me, I don't give Tucker Carlson any credit because I know he's a Russian propagandist... will they hear him say it's propaganda and will it make them think?”
— Angie Sullivan at [04:33]
Jennifer introduces the concept of dual layers within the MAGA movement—comparing casual followers to hardcore addicts—highlighting the potential for internal collapse:
“Normal people... like, nobody ever accused Barack Obama of being on drugs... he's taking the country down with it... MAGA is caused by the left, communist socialists, all this.”
— Jennifer Welch at [04:56]
The discussion shifts to Fox News, with Jennifer Welch denouncing it as a propagandist outlet manipulating the conservative base:
“Fox News lies to the tune of a billion dollars... they've rigged the audio of Trump's birthday party and injected applause where there was hardly any applause.”
— Jennifer Welch at [03:22]
Angie Sullivan expands on the impact of Fox News' strategies and the resulting fragmentation within the MAGA community:
“It's, this really weird juxtaposition in the MAGA cult where these podcasters that crank out a ton of content are going after Donald Trump... Candace Owens goes after Donald Trump and she goes after Benjamin Netanyahu...”
— Angie Sullivan at [08:08]
The hosts critically examine the complex relationships and foreign policies involving Israel, Iran, and Donald Trump. Jennifer Welch accuses Netanyahu of provocative actions, suggesting a deliberate attempt to entangle the U.S. in Middle Eastern conflicts:
“Benjamin Netanyahu knows they're going to do, somebody will do something provocative to lure the United States into this... It's going to be the biggest shit show.”
— Jennifer Welch at [09:07]
Angie Sullivan connects Trump's policies to the current tensions, asserting that his leadership has indirectly facilitated the escalation:
“The reason Israel finally went after Iran is because they have no respect for Donald Trump. This war has been held at bay by all the presidents before Donald Trump... So Trump is the reason we're in this situation right now.”
— Angie Sullivan at [08:08]
Jennifer further critiques Trump’s inconsistent policies and deteriorating leadership, forecasting severe repercussions for America:
“Trump just flipped on that again... When these podcasters are playing marathon, Trump's playing a sprint... the American public is already suffering from this.”
— Jennifer Welch at [10:43]
The conversation broadens to encompass economic policies and their detrimental effects on the American middle and working classes. Jennifer Welch links past administrations' decisions to current economic hardships, emphasizing the lack of accountability among elites:
“One of the biggest contributors to our national deficit is George W. Bush... The American foreign policy is just as broken as the American economic policy.”
— Jennifer Welch at [11:21]
Angie Sullivan warns of the long-term economic impacts, predicting that the fallout from current policies will disproportionately affect ordinary Americans:
“The ramifications of his behavior in terms of economic policy, foreign policy, it's all coming home to roost. And the American people are going to be the ones that pay for it.”
— Angie Sullivan at [13:34]
Jennifer concludes this segment by cautioning against the rising authoritarian tendencies within the MAGA movement, suggesting a slippery slope towards systemic control:
“They are priming their base for communism... This is staggering. The damage to the United States of America is staggering.”
— Jennifer Welch at [15:27]
In closing, IHIP News presents a bleak outlook on the current state of the MAGA movement and its broader implications for the United States. The hosts articulate a sense of urgency, urging listeners to recognize and address the deep-seated issues within political leadership and media influence. They emphasize the need for accountability and a reevaluation of the ideologies driving the nation towards potential unrest and decline.
This summary encapsulates the critical discussions and viewpoints expressed by Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan in the episode, providing an insightful overview for listeners and non-listeners alike.