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Legal Analyst
Foreign.
Host
I wanted to give everybody an update on the Epstein files. We've had so much with Venezuela and then the execution of an unarmed American citizen by ice. But the Epstein files are still lurking and there are deadlines being missed and new information that's coming up. And something that just, I've heard it before, but Mark Epstein, Jeffrey Epstein's brother, says that he was murdered. And then in February, we're going to have a new autopsy report that shows that. So this came up and this is a bombshell after all these years. We find out from News Nation that Mark Epstein refers to a new autopsy report that will prove his brother was murdered. And then if you go into the body of the article, he has hired a former New York City chief medical examiner to conduct a new autopsy. Those results will be released in February. And I think this is a really important update because Mark Epstein has been saying this and you've seen the doctored footage and you've seen every single person that we've asked on this podcast and at large, do you think Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide? The answer is no. And Jennifer, just a quick reminder, who was president when Jeffrey Epstein was murdered and in charge of the Department of Justice? Well, that was Donald Trump and Bill Barr. So I think this is going to ignite again, the conversation about we want to see the videos of how Epstein died.
Commentator
I mean, this is, this is the whole ball game. I mean, I remember when he died and I remember, like, I wasn't super into following all of the Epstein stuff, but I remember I was more following all of Trump's, you know, and Trump 1.0. And I remember saying to my husband, don't you think probably that DOJ did it? Like, how could he commit suicide? Like, how could that happen in federal custody like that? My husband's a criminal defense lawyer, lawyer goes to, you know, federal prisons all the time. A high profile prisoner like that, this just would not happen. And then I am no pathologist or even though I do watch a lot of true crime shows, Armchair pathologist. When I saw the, the, the room and I am a human being and I thought about, okay, if I was trying to do that with what he had to work with, it seemed impossible. So let's just say he was murdered. Then that means that the Trump administration and the Trump doj, somebody connected to it, murdered him. Right? I mean, that's just, that's just all it means. And, and, and it's, it's the biggest bombshell of them all that he was just quote, unquote, handled and I just don't think it's possible that he just anatomically with that room. I just don't think it's possible that he committed suicide. I think they killed him. That's my opinion.
Host
Well, and I remember when I heard that, you know, I've heard of prisoners committing suicide, so that didn't strike me. But when they said the video, that the officers in charge of watching it were asleep and the video was out, I was like, there's no question. All of this stuff is not a coincidence. It just doesn't happen that way. And you look at who stands to gain from the death of Jeffrey Epstein, it. That's an obvious question. And then another thing I found interesting this week was Robert Garcia, who is the ranking member for the Democrats on the House Oversight Committee. He comes out and we've been talking about Mar A Lago connection to the Jeffrey Epstein sex trafficking ring. Here's Robert Garcia.
Robert Garcia
And so there's a lot happening, and we're actually right now taking testimony from survivors, some of the people involved. So our work on the Epstein case is just starting moving forward. Donald Trump thinks it's over. He doesn't really understand the breadth of what we're doing here. There's so much information about Mar A Lago. What Mar A Lago, what their role was in, in the traps with girls. There's so much happening. And so all that will come out, the truth will come out. And we're just working hard to make sure that people understand that we want, we want justice for this process.
Host
To, to see the ranking member of a House committee investigating this. What was the role of Mar A Lago in the sex trafficking ring? I found that to be somewhat shocking. I mean, that's very pointed in my opinion. And of course, Pam Bondi is covering it up. Of course she didn't meet the deadlines. Of course she's violating the law. That's just what they do. What's your response to that?
Commentator
I mean, I, I didn't think that was because we reported right before all of the Venezuela stuff that they had released that Trump was sending girls from the Mar A Lago spa to Jeffrey Epstein's house. To me, all of this, there's, to me, there doesn't seem to be much new information on this as much as it is confirming what everybody always thought about all of this. And I didn't, I, I didn't think the Mar A Lago stuff was as pointed. But I don't follow this as close to YouTube because it's like, duh, of course he, we know he got Virginia go free from Mar a Lago. We know that Donald Trump has ended this thing up to his eyeballs.
Host
Yeah, he stole her, as Donald Trump's exact words. And you know, I look at the people, the survivors that they're seeing this, and I feel happy for them that they know that people are working towards releasing this information. And you have Thomas Massie, who is a Republican, who's been out front of all of this, and he is saying to Pam Bondi, we're going to hold you accountable at some point. And I cannot wait for the day that so many members of this administration, Pam Bondi, Pete Hegseth, Stephen Miller, JD Vance, obviously Donald Trump, I wish. But the Supreme Court gave him a pass. They need to be in handcuffs because in my opinion, they are committing nonstop crimes every day. But here's Thomas Massie giving a very solemn warning to Pam Bondi.
Legal Analyst
And like you said, there are, there are next steps. Beyond that, there's contempt, which requires referral to the doj. Now, the problem with that is if you refer contempt of Congress to the doj, they're not going to prosecute it. They never do. And they wait for Congress to expire. So there's also inherent contempt, which hasn't been practiced in over 80 years. We're drafting that. And that's more desirable than impeachment because inherent contempt is resolved in one chamber of Congress, whereas impeachment would have to go also to the Senate. So those are the escalating degrees of things that we can do. But I also want to remind those folks at the doj, you can be prosecuted by a future DOJ for violating this law because it's a law. It's not a congressional subpoena that expires at the end of day. The this Congress, it will last forever. This is gu.
Host
Just crimes, crimes and more crimes. It just none of this. I wish they wouldn't start out politely because this has been a cover up since that we've been aware of as the, as a public since May of 2025, that they have been actively trying to cover this up. So I don't think they should get any graces. But one thing, and nobody might think this is great but me, Les Wexner, who Victoria's Secret, Jeffrey Epstein's first sponsor, so to speak, the Oversight Committee is subpoenaing him to take before Congress. And here's the thing here. Here we have the reporting in the House Oversight Committee just now. Ranking member Robert Garcia just secured subpoenas for Les Wexner, billionaire businessman and longtime benefactor of Jeffrey Epstein, Pl, Darren, Ida Key, and Richard Kahn, the executors of the Epstein estate. Okay. On a personal note, I think that Epstein and Les Wexner. I think Wexner loved Jeffrey Epstein because I don't think anybody gives somebody a $77 million penthouse or, I'm sorry, brownstone in New York without being stupid in love. And then he took millions and millions and millions of dollars from Les Wexner unless Wexner let it ride forever. So this is something that I find absolutely fascinating. And these women were victimized because of the name of Victoria's Secret Come model for us. I represent Victoria's Secret. If you looked online, if you even did your research, you would find there was a very strong connection between Les Wexner, who, again, is the CEO of Victoria's Secret, and Jeffrey Epstein.
Commentator
Yeah, I think I've always wondered about how he got his money because it's so sketchy. The story about it is so incredibly sketchy about his ascent. Now, it's either, like you said, it's love, or there's, you know, compromising information that Jeffrey Epstein had on Les Wexner, and he was blackmailing him and bribing him, you know, something really, really nefarious. It's one of those two things. And so I think it's very interesting. I also thought of. Note of the. To go back to the Massie comment about. I was happy and pleased to see that there is a Republican, even though I don't like maga, you guys, that somebody is standing up to Pam Bondi and standing up to the doj, because it is so important. And. And all of these fiscal conservatives, the. The country club Republicans that voted for Donald Trump, that know better, but they did because they're greedy and they didn't want to pay as much in taxes. When you erode the justice system and you erode the court system, you erode the economy. And this is incredibly important. And it's amazing to me how all of these things are kind of Venn diagramming are kind of like intersecting and at the epicenter of this entire story. So thank you so much for curating this episode, Pumps, because this Epstein stuff, I think the COVID up started the day in January when the Trump administration invited all of the MAGA influencers and gave them the binders. They gave them the exact information that had already been out, remember? And like, it's.
Host
That girl had all their pictures. Yeah.
Commentator
Tick tock. And, you know, they invite all these fleabag And. And they thought, oh, because it shows you how stupid they think their base is by the way they've treated Epstein stuff. You know, it's really. The treatment of the Epstein stuff is not only protection of elites, but also the condescending nature that they have towards the people who vote for them.
Host
No, I completely agree. So we will keep you updated. We're following this very closely. Please like this video and subscribe to our channel.
Podcast: IHIP News
Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Date: January 10, 2026
In this episode, progressive hosts Jennifer Welch and Angie Sullivan (“Pumps”) bring listeners up to speed on the ongoing Epstein case amid other big stories dominating the news cycle. Central to the episode is the jaw-dropping development that Mark Epstein, Jeffrey Epstein’s brother, has ordered a new, independent autopsy, with the claim that its results will provide evidence Epstein was murdered—not a suicide as officially declared. The hosts and guests examine the mounting evidence, explore political implications, and highlight pointed statements by lawmakers actively investigating the matter, all delivered in the show’s trademark candid, comedic, and opinionated tone.
Mark Epstein Autopsy Announcement:
“Mark Epstein refers to a new autopsy report that will prove his brother was murdered.” (Host, 00:24)
Skepticism About Suicide:
“A high profile prisoner like that, this just would not happen… I just don’t think it’s possible that he committed suicide. I think they killed him. That’s my opinion.” (Commentator, 01:37–03:16)
Political Accountability:
“Just a quick reminder, who was president when Jeffrey Epstein was murdered and in charge of the Department of Justice? Well, that was Donald Trump and Bill Barr.” (Host, 00:56)
Oversight Focus on Mar A Lago:
“There’s so much information about Mar A Lago, what their role was in the traps with girls. The truth will come out.” (Robert Garcia, 04:00)
Les Wexner & Epstein Relationship:
“I don’t think anybody gives somebody a $77 million penthouse or, I’m sorry, brownstone in New York without being stupid in love.” (Host, 08:28)
Manipulation of Public Perception:
“It shows you how stupid they think their base is by the way they’ve treated Epstein stuff.” (Commentator, 11:07)
The episode is driven by a mix of outrage, dark humor, and candid, progressive commentary. The hosts are relentless in their critique of corruption, governmental cover-ups, and elite protection, while celebrating rare bipartisan efforts to press for accountability. They signal a promise to stay on the story, suggesting listeners “stay tuned” for what could be a transformative chapter in the years-old Epstein saga.