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Political Commentator 1
Foreign bro podcast and spoke to them and Pete is one of the most effective communicators of the Democratic Party in my opinion. But it's important to point out that he seeded no ground. Like some other Democrats have arrived at meeting and chit chatting with MAGA influencers. They immediately cede ground and cave to MAGA upon arrival. Pete didn't do this. Furthermore, he put on a master class about how to debunk MAGA conspiracy theories and lies. Play the first clip.
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Political Commentator 2
Like the data are like based on some real set that somebody can.
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Political Commentator 1
But it can be, it can be manipulated.
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Political Commentator 2
Yeah, how it looks or how you make it sound. I mean, they're doing this right now. Again, the dosh make it sound like there's like millions of dead people getting Social Security. Exactly. We're just not. That's just not true.
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Political Commentator 1
So how many are getting. Are there dead people? That's because this seemed to me fact.
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Political Commentator 2
Well, first of all, Biden can get it. One thing to think about is like, obviously the vast majority of people who die of old age are getting Social Security the day they die, right? So for at least a minute or a week or a month or however long, there's that process of updating. But part of it had to do with how the database was built. And you just didn't necessarily remove everybody from the database. It didn't mean they were getting money, but it meant they were in the database. And so you could twist that into looking like this is what the President did in his speech. Like, it's true. There's this database that had all these people from like, you know, 100 years ago. It was not true that they were getting checks. Okay, but he said the one part that's good and your brain fills in the blanks. And now you think, oh shit, there's like millions of people who are 150 years old.
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Political Commentator 1
So this is a master class because Trump and Musk want to dismantle Social Security. So they start with propaganda. And these bro podcasters immediately said, well, that's just a fact. People are getting money. Pete Buttigieg says No, it's not. And you hear him explain why in less than a two minute clip. And you hear them all go, oh, I get it. And that's why it's so important that people like Pete. If you want to go talk to maga, you can do it, but don't cede any moral ground. Don't. Do not cede anything. And Pete doesn't do that.
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Political Commentator 3
Pete is absolutely. He is so smart. He is such a good communicator. And I give him a lot of credit for going. He's always going on Fox. He, he does the Democratic message in Republican spaces. But it just. You look how fast these people change their minds when they understand and they're given true data, they just haven't heard it.
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Political Commentator 1
Okay, next up, Pete talks about going on Fox News with the flagrant podcast.
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Political Commentator 2
It's all well and good for me to keep going on Fox News, and I will. Although they don't seem to be inviting me as much lately. But, you know, a lot of.
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Political Commentator 1
He just called y'all.
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Political Commentator 2
Talk your.
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Political Commentator 1
Okay, so Andrew Schultz says to Fox News, he just called you a pussy. And when I saw this, I knew that there would be a homophobic backlash from Fox. I knew that that was imminent because that's what MAGA does. If there's a successful black speaker, there is going to be a back. A backlash from that. A white lash. When there's a successful gay speaker, there's going to be a homophobic backlash. This is what they do. But let's look at the comments really quick before I get to Fox's response as to what they were on the flagrant podcast. The first one is, I'm a Republican, but Pete seems like a chill dude. Seems like the type of dude I would sit down and have a beer with. The next one as conservative. I see Pete in a complete different light now. Very wholesome. And even though our views don't always align, he is a great husband, dad and representative. And the last one, I voted Trump. But not gonna lie, Pete makes a lot of good points. Well, Fox sees all of that and they have subbing for Jesse Waters, the wife of the current Secretary of Transportation that replaced Pete Buttigieg is subbing for Jesse Waters. And this, y'all are just not going to believe this. This is on Fox News. Play the first one.
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Political Commentator 2
And then poor Pete.
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Political Commentator 4
I mean, Mayor Pete is not exactly the one you send out to get the.
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Political Commentator 2
The young bro crowd.
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Political Commentator 4
I mean, you may as well send Dylan Mulvaney doing a makeup class and hope you can get Funny how we.
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Political Commentator 5
Thought like growing the beard would somehow change everything. It didn't make us forget. Okay, we got to talk about.
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Political Commentator 1
Hear that? Coded homophobia. Growing the beard will somehow change everything. Mag audience knew exactly what she was talking about. Because these people have attended churches and schools and Bible studies where the singular sin that they're taught their entire lives is being gay. And they perpetuate this bullshit lie that marriage should only be between a man and a woman. And FOX is so full of this kind of homophob. And here is Mrs. Duffy again being homophobic. Put this up.
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Political Commentator 5
Mayor Pete has an idea. He's clearly gotten the masculinity problem memo. He's pretending not to be a beta. He grew a beard and he hit the manosphere. The male podcast world.
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Political Commentator 1
I just think that is despicable. And I think if people sit around and watch that and they feast off that and they like her making fun of somebody because they're gay and you think that's cute and you think that's fun and you think that's neat and you think that's what you and Jesus do together. I think this is just such a disgusting cancer. It makes me absolutely sick. I will die on this hill. I think Fox News and this homophobia and racism and transphobia is the biggest cancer and it's produced the ugliest cult imaginable.
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Political Commentator 3
Well, it has reduced these people to the hypocrites craven appetite for cruelty crowd. And here they are, Pete Buttigieg, he's a veteran, he has a Rhodes scholar. He has every qualification you could want. And they have to pick on him and talk about him being gay because they are dishonest and they are craving craven people.
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Political Commentator 1
And let's talk about the contrast between Pete Buttigieg and all of his accolades which pumps mentions a Rhodes scholar, was mayor, Secretary of Transportation, did a lot of phenomenal, innovative things at the department. And then her husband takes charge. And we played a video. If you go back a month or so of him running around in his panties, boozing it up, saying a bunch of sexist shit, her husband, then she has the audacity to get on here. And that uses all this beta, all this bullshit crazy talk. And it's just, it is just such emotional stupidity On Fox, you know, you can talk about people having emotional intelligence. Fox News is like the lowest emotional iq. People all bottom feeding together that like, you know, when you tell your kids, if they say, oh, that's gay, you're like, don't say that. There are actually real gay people and we love them. These people never grew out of that. They never grew out of it. And I think they're just insidious cancers on this country. And but here, as she goes on into her reporting, here she is. I thought this was just a weird thing to say. Listen to this.
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Political Commentator 5
So I can tell you that this is happening anecdotally in my own house. I have Gen Z teenagers, Gen Z early 20s kids, and they're all on these health podcasts. That's who they go to for health advice. They don't go to the doctors, because I just went to see a doctor not too long ago and he told me to eat less meat. Like what?
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Political Commentator 1
Like what? Okay, notice the chiron at the bottom that Americans are turning away from experts. This is a part of an authoritarian play. This is intention. And Fox News is complicit in this. And it is the dismantling of expertise. That's why you have her husband, who's not qualified to be the Secretary of Transportation. That's why you have Pete Hegseth, who's not qualified to be the Secretary of Defense. That's why you have Donald Trump, who's really not qualified to be President of the United States. And they're going after Harvard. They're going after all of the departments that had experts that were trying to find cures for cancer and cures for diseases. They are dismantling expertise because authoritarians want an ignorant electorate, because they know that the biggest kryptonite to fascism is education, critical thought, critical thinking. And that's why evangelical Christians fall prey to this authoritarian cult so easily, because they have been primed to judge. And they feel like from a very young age, if they critically think, then that is sin and they're going to go to hell. So that's why they filter into this thing so easily. Next up, I want to leave you all with Ben Mysalis interviewing Gavin Newsom. And I have some thoughts on this, and this is why I included this. I'm mad at Gavin Newsom, not personally, but when it comes to his political career, that when he sat down with these right wing bro podcasters, that he ceded some moral causes. I think that is weakness. And you see that Pete Buttigieg seed anything, if anything, he showed a lot of people that listen to these bro podcasts. Look, I have a husband and we have kids and we are, you know, good people. And then they're kind of like, yeah, why? Why am I so wound up about gay stuff? It kind of got them out of their hate cycle in Their brain. Well, Gavin Newsom, he seeded some ground, but he has an important message that he made to bend my say list. And this is something that I've been talking about a lot on the PODC that I think Democrats need to talk about the success of blue states and how they are the economic centers of the United States economy. No state is better at this than California. So as we move, move forward as a party and everybody that opposes fascism, we can walk and chew gum, we can be mad at Gavin for sitting down with Steve Bannon. But when he has a good point, we need to platform them because it's going to take all of us coming together. Like I personally didn't like it when Kamala Harris ran around with Liz Cheney. It was insulting to my intelligence and I thought Liz Cheney to be a propagandist regarding abortion issues. And so. But this clip right here, I thought this was really good. And this is where Gavin Newsom is at his best. And I hope that other Democrats pick up this message. Play the clip.
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Political Commentator 4
Governor, California just passed Japan as the fourth largest economy in the world, which of course sounds like a big deal you posted about it. Why is this just an important thing for us to all recognize more broadly geopolitically? Well, it's a point of pride. I mean, it's a big blue state with $4.1 trillion a year economic output. We're 14% of the GDP in the United States of America, 50% more than the next big state. But I also want people to understand that this is a donor state. In 2023, Californians contributed $83.1 billion more than we received from the federal government. And by the way, for your viewers, they may be interested in this, that state, Texas took $71.1 billion more than they provided the federal government. California 83.
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Political Commentator 1
This is a super important message whether you're pissed at Gavin Newsom or not. It's going to take all of us on the left or that are in the center collaborating together to defeat this massive right wing media echo chamber. And that is so important. California contributes more federally, way more than it takes. Texas takes way more than it gives. So all of these red states are welfare queens. All of these big blue cities are the economic centers and the heartbeat of the American economy. This is why Target, when they rolled back their dei, you don't see target in small town rural America. You don't see a bunch of targets, you know, way, way out in the country and in the sticks. They are in areas where the economies are strong and when they rolled back their DEI and when they decided not to sponsor gay Pride anymore, what happened to them? They're losing billions of dollars. And so I hope that as we roll along, we can have conversations with power players in the Democratic Party and have a reckoning regarding that. We shouldn't cede on anything. And I hope that Gavin Newsom learned a lesson from what Pete Buttigieg did. Because I'll just tell you personally, I remember the first time I ever saw Gavin Newsom. I was 20 something. I was watching Bill Maher. I was this liberal atheist that lived in the buc of the Bible Belt. And I could watch Bill Maher and hear people that were so different from people in Oklahoma City that had really deep intellectual conversations. And he was so young and good looking and he was the mayor of San Francisco. And he spoke so beautifully about gay rights and he spoke so beautifully about the Pride Parade. And so I just implore Gavin Newsom to find that back in him again. Because what people don't like is when you're inauthentic. And it felt very inauthentic when you sat down with Charlie Kirk, when you sat down with Steve Bannon. Can you sit down with him? Yeah, you 100% can sit down with him. But you don't seed anything morally. You don't take the most vulnerable in our society and throw them under the bus. Also a group of people that you have fought for from the very inception of your career, people who poured into you for believing in them. And so I hope that you can rectify it because this message that you just made is powerful and it is something that the Democratic Party has not messaged and it needs so desperately to be messaged that these red states and these red state policies in these red cities are bottom feeder welfare queen suckers off of the rich ones. And that is not message. And it is a counter message to the Fox News propaganda machine that tries to deride blue cities and tries to deride blue states. And I think you're a great messenger of this. I hope you can atone for throw the trans community under the bus. Because you don't have to do that. Gavin. Nobody's mad that you sat down with those people. We're mad that when you arrived at the table that you seated something that I used to really look up to you for, I thought, wow, a good looking white straight man can be so comfortable supporting gay rights. I just, I thought it was amazing. And so I hope that you can find your way back to that because I think your message is important. I think your leadership in California is important. You've been on our podcast before. I think you're charming as hell. Hell, I think you could win a national race. But don't seed the most marginalized people in our communities. That's not who you are. That's not who America is. Okay, please subscribe to our channel, and we'll see you all later.