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Episode: "FOX News Said This On-Air? MAGA's Insane Solution For Homelessness"
Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Date: September 20, 2025

Overview

In this episode, Jennifer and Angie take a sharp, no-holds-barred look at a shocking Fox News clip in which a commentator suggests lethal measures for homelessness. The duo unpacks the dangerous rhetoric, explores right-wing dehumanization, links recent violent events (including the assassination of Charlie Kirk and a school shooting in Denver), and draws connections to increasing anti-Semitism, the US-Israel relationship, and threats to the First Amendment. The tone is unapologetically progressive, comedic, and frequently explicit.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Fox News' Shocking Rhetoric on Homelessness

• [01:07] Fox News segment plays: Host suggests that those homeless who refuse help should be jailed or worse:
  • Quote:
    • Fox Host: “Either you take the resources that we're going to give you or you decide that you're going to be locked up in jail. That's the way it has to be now.”
    • Another Host: “Or involuntary lethal injection or something. Just kill them.”
• Jennifer and Angie react with outrage and sarcasm, highlighting the normalization of dehumanizing language.
• [01:41] Jennifer notes hypocrisy: “I guarantee you over 95% of the people that watch Fox identify as Christians, 100%.”
• Angie argues lack of backlash is not surprising, considering the audience’s alignment with the rhetoric: “And the reason there wasn't huge backlash against him in that clip is because that 95 agrees with him.”
• They discuss the dangers of public figures dehumanizing vulnerable groups, notably the homeless, many of whom are veterans or mentally ill.

2. Linking Language to Violence

• [02:54] Reference to a mass shooting at a homeless encampment in Minneapolis, highlighting real-world consequences of dehumanizing policies and propaganda.
• Jennifer ties Fox’s rhetoric to a wider lack of empathy among white evangelical Christians for victims of gun violence:
  • [03:53] “It’s just so disgusting. It's so vile. And they don't feel empathy for victims of gun violence. They don't feel empathy for homeless people. What a bunch of cold, twisted…”
• Irony is called out when the same Fox commentator who advocated lethal action against the homeless is brought on to discuss Jimmy Kimmel’s firing—and Fox claims the moral high ground.
  • [04:48] Jennifer: “The reason that Kimmel was fired is because Kimmel hurt Donald Trump's feelings. That's the country we live in. And Donald Trump is surrounded by a bunch of fluffers...”

3. Gun Violence and Right-Wing Hypocrisy

• More shootings are discussed with frustration at the normalization and lack of legislative action or empathy from the right:
  • [05:24] Angie: “The more norms they can break, the more craven they can be, the more their base likes it.”
  • [05:40] Jennifer breaks down the logic: “Seeing Kill me's casual mention of just, we should just start—what did he say? Involuntary injection.”
• Jennifer distinguishes her own feelings about violence, even toward polarizing right-wing figures:
  • [06:40] “I abhor that Charlie Kirk was shot with a gun... he was still a human being to me, even though everything he stood for was demonizing other people. And it helps me understand how these right wing churchgoing Christian people... are just so primed to dehumanize people.”

4. School Shooting, White Supremacy, and Political Radicalization

• [07:17] Jennifer describes another underreported story:
  • A high school shooting by a 16-year-old radicalized online, inspired by white supremacist, anti-Semitic conspiracies.
  • Frustration at the lack of coverage compared to Charlie Kirk's assassination.
• [08:19] Critiques Benjamin Netanyahu for repeatedly (unprompted) denying involvement in Kirk’s death, noting: “I haven't seen any other world leaders deny killing Charlie Kirk.”

5. The Paradoxical Alliance: MAGA and Zionism

• Jennifer digs into the contradiction of Zionist leaders (like Netanyahu) aligning with US right-wing (MAGA) circles, despite rampant anti-Semitism within those groups:
  • [09:00] “The most Nazi, like anti-Semitic people are the most Republican people I know. And you have Benjamin Netanyahu and all of these Zionists who are sucking up to the party whose tent is full of anti Semitic neo Nazis.”
  • She brings in Netanyahu’s efforts to suppress journalism and criticism by linking Israel’s actions to attacks on the First Amendment.

6. Suppressing Dissent and First Amendment Threats

• Discusses Marco Rubio’s bill to revoke passports of US citizens who speak against Israel.
• [11:52] Jennifer: “It seems like MAGA and the Zionists are one. But I have to warn the Zionists the MAGA people are anti Semitic. They are real Jew haters, you guys, for real.”

7. Erased Federal Report on Right-Wing Violence

• Jennifer highlights the removal of a US government study on right-wing violence:
  • “Militant nationalistic white supremacist violent extremism has increased in the United States... far right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far left or radical Islamist extremists...”
  • Stresses the political motives behind removing such reports, and the danger of ignoring the data.

8. Final Reflections: Universal Human Rights

• Jennifer closes with an important message:
  • “We need to remember that when we're talking about human rights, we can't make one group higher and one group lower. We all have to be on the same playing field. Trans people, Muslim people, Jewish people, middle aged atheist broads like us, all on the same playing field.”
  • Stresses opposition to emotional manipulation and anti-Semitism weaponized against dissent, and the need to stay vigilant.
• Urges listeners not to “obey in advance,” encouraging continued resistance and engagement.

Memorable Quotes & Moments

• [01:23] Fox News Host: “Or involuntary lethal injection or something. Just kill them.”
• [01:49] Jennifer: “I guarantee you over 95% of the people that watch Fox identify as Christians, 100%.”
• [04:48] Jennifer: “The reason that Kimmel was fired is because Kimmel hurt Donald Trump’s feelings. That's the country we live in.”
• [05:24] Angie: “Irony's dead. Hypocrisy dead… The more norms they can break, the more craven they can be, the more their base likes it.”
• [09:00] Jennifer: “The most Nazi, like anti-Semitic people are the most Republican people I know. And you have Benjamin Netanyahu... sucking up to... anti-semitic neo Nazis.”
• [12:28] Jennifer: “Militant nationalistic white supremacist violent extremism has increased in the United States...”
• [13:40] Jennifer: “We need to remember that when we're talking about human rights, we can't make one group higher and one group lower. We all have to be on the same playing field.”

Notable Timestamps

• [01:07] — Fox News homeless solution clip airs
• [02:54] — Report of mass shooting at a homeless encampment
• [04:48] — Jennifer debunks Fox News narrative about Jimmy Kimmel’s firing
• [06:40] — Jennifer discusses her own line on violence, even toward political enemies
• [07:17] — Coverage of a school shooting by a neo-Nazi teen
• [08:09] — Netanyahu repeatedly denies involvement in Charlie Kirk's assassination
• [09:00] — Critique of MAGA-Zionist alliance
• [11:52] — Legislation proposed to punish anti-Israel speech
• [12:28] — Scrubbing of study on right-wing extremist violence
• [13:40] — Universal call for human rights and equality

Tone and Style

Candid, acerbic, and often profane, Jennifer and Angie blend biting satire with genuine alarm over current events. Their critiques are rooted in progressive values and skepticism towards mainstream right-wing media, accompanied by a clear call to action for listeners to remain informed, outspoken, and empathetic.

End Note:
The hosts conclude by encouraging activism and inviting listeners to check out their book, Life is a Lazy Susan of Shit Sandwiches. The episode is both a pointed critique of right-wing media narratives and a rallying cry for humane, egalitarian values.