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Pumps
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Jennifer
An overzealous, unhinged ICE agent, a veteran of the agency that was a firearms instructor that trains other ICE agents, murdered and killed Renee Good. The autopsies that are coming in are damning the bullets that hit her. The last one was the lethal one. So remember, he shot her three times. We all saw it. And then he called her a. And then Cory Booker got on Twitter and said, we need to train ICE agents more. And I want to remind you, this guy was the trainer. This guy was the veteran. This guy had the experience. ICE must be abolished. And a Minnesota doctor is speaking out that Renee Good was still alive when a doctor in Minnesota tried to get to her vehicle. A mother of three with a black Labrador retriever in the backseat tried to get to her as a human being would do, especially a human being with medical training to save her life. And the ICE agents intentionally said, no, don't. You can't go there. And they did that on purpose because they wanted to show and remind you. I want to remind Senator Cory Booker, you want them to have cameras. You can put cameras on them, but Christy now makes sure they film everything. And they intentionally made the point, do not rescue her. Her life is not savable. We killed her. And that's where it ends. And that's who they are. And that's who these MAGA Christians are. That's who FOX News is. That's the type of American that they are. And they are Americans and they are Christians. And those are things that we all have to reconcile. People in the Christian movement will say, oh, they're not real Christians. Well, they are. There's a whole Old Testament that leads the framework for all of this kind of brutal. And I can't say they're not real Americans because they are Americans. And those kind of statements don't help. But there was a doctor that was trying to help save the life of somebody, but she was so devalued on Fox News. Devalued in the eyes of these MAGA Christians, devalued in the eyes of these submissive beta males that they said, no, you cannot help save her life. Play this clip.
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Minnesota Healthcare Professional
This morning I learned for the first time through an NPR story that Renee Goode still had a pulse Eight minutes after she was shot by an ice agent. And yet the offer to administer aid from a physician on the scene following his Hippocratic oath was denied. I can't say how much that stirs the blood of everyone behind me here as we try to fulfill our obligation, our oath, and our duty to care for the people in Minnesota. And I believe it stirs the blood of every patriotic Minnesota who knows how we treat each other in this state. So that is what we are here to speak to today as healthcare professionals.
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Pumps
Pops, you know, I'm sitting there watching that, and I remember the video of the doctor saying, let me help. I'm a doctor. And they said no. And it's not only that they devalue human life. They value scaring people. They value making protesters say, I don't think I can go protest because I'm afraid I'll get murdered. I mean, that thought has crossed my head. If I were in the exact same position, would have done the exact same thing, would it have stopped me now that I've seen someone murdered for doing absolutely nothing wrong in exercising the First Amendment rights? And it would give me pause. And I think you fast forward that into the midterms, and that is how they're trying to intimidate people, in my opinion, to stay away from the boat voting box. And it doesn't surprise me at all that they're doing this because I have MAGA people in my life professing to be huge Christians that do not have empathy for anyone but themselves. And it breaks my heart, but it's true. Very.
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Jennifer
I agree with you about the intimidation factor that they're, you know, they're setting this up to where people are so scared to go out and into the streets. Because you have to remember, electorate, Americans, they're scared of our voice. The reason they are puncturing the pillars of strength of the United States of America is because the power stands within the people. If we don't like the rulers of the country, we can vote them out in four years. And then we have midterms every two years to put a further stop on that. And as every guardrail is gone, everyone, every single guardrail is gone except for us. We are the final guardrail. And so PUMPS is spot on about the fear tactics. But we must never, ever obey in advance. And our heart goes out to all of the vigilantes in Minnesota that are getting video footage of the depravity and the crimes of these ICE agents. And so I appreciate the vigilante journalism going on in Minnesota and The real journalism. And this is a photograph that just really spoke to me. Pop this up, Kylie. Here's a picture of a child walking home from school and ICE agents surrounding him. And James sur wi tweets, kids don't carry IDs, let alone proof of citizenship. And the ICE agents had no reasonable suspicion that made their stop of these kids legal. It's just constitutional and legal violations all the way down and none of these guys will ever pay a price for it. The photographer Mostof Bassam photographed this boy walking home alone with a snack being randomly approached by dhs. After he was unable to produce documentation proving his citizenship. Agents informed him that he was under arrest and he said, can I just go home? And the agent said no. And what I have to say to all of the MAGA Christians who claim to care about children and claim to care about life, that you have been exposed for being the hypocrites I always knew you were, the superficial veneer that you have, oh, bless your heart. And all of this it is exposed. The grift of these mega churches, the campaigning on religion wrapped in patriotism that is just an absolute grift. Just like your mega church pastors do to you and feed you all of this ridiculous, ridiculous bullshit that your number one goal in life should be to solely work on your relationship with Jesus and not about helping other people and becoming a better person and becoming a member of a society. The individuality in the narcissism and just the cruel inhumanity of the religious right, I've always known it, I've always lived around it and I've always seen these people to be craven, cruel, not empathetic and, and arrogant beyond all measure. And anybody that can see that and then can say, I don't like that. But we have to have a border. You are not understanding the depths of what government and what this country is. You use these very simplistic, ill founded arguments that are not rooted in reality to justify your racism and quite frankly your hatred of families. You act like you care about families and you act like you care about babies, but at the end of the day you don't. You especially don't care about them if they're poor, the neediest of families. You shun the most marginalized of families you feel are not worthy. The families that might have gay members in it you think aren't traditional enough. And that's why you're not like us. I want nothing to do with your religion because it disgusts me. It's unevolved, uncivilized immoral, depraved and just downright criminal style thinking. And I just think the people that see that and their response is that somehow Trump is solving an immigration problem. We will never be the same people. Your religion makes you a worse person. And it's very obvious to everybody that's not inside your megachurch, at the coffee shop and the gift shop in the megachurch getting dunk tanked while a rock concert is going on. It's just an insane religion.
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Pumps
Well, and I just, when I look at things like this, and I think the point that you make is Republicans are always like, we want to protect life. We are pro life. No, you're not. You're not pro life because if you were pro life and pro child, you would give a with a social safety net after they're born. If you gave a about children, you would release the Epstein files and arrest the pedophiles and the people that protected them. You would not pardon the January Sixers. And they're all, all the ones are coming back. It just droves of being sexual abuse against children. So I will not listen to anybody tell me, especially somebody that says they're pro Life, which is 99% right wing evangelical Christians, that they care about children because they have shown us over and over and over again they don't give a fuck about children. They give a shit about their children, but they don't give a shit about anybody else's children. And when it comes to the Republican family that I grew up in, we were small government, strong national security. You have the United States government in every part of our daily lives. Now you can't go down the street. A little boy can't walk on the street because some random ICE agent comes up to him and says, where are your papers? Kids don't have papers. I don't have papers. What would I show? So this whole idea that we're so patriotic, yet we want to get in your bedrooms, we want to be in your uterus, we want to be in your work. Like, we don't want you to stop working because we want you to be part of the economy, but we want you to have babies. They are the most hypocritical, done lack of anything other than what they say. Like I say, I'm pro life. I vote against everything that would help a child. I vote against everything that would reign in Donald Trump to make him follow the Constitution. But I'm a real American. Go fuck yourself. You've lost the plot. You don't give a shit about children. You don't give a shit about America, or you would be standing up saying, we cannot have a president breaking the law. And every single day.
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Jennifer
Very well said. Moving along. This is how ICE is treating children in custody. Pop this up. Ch. Crystal ball, My girl, Crystal ball. Shout out to her. She's always on the right side of history, says children are being treated this way. And she found the story on PBS News, which actually does journalism. Food contaminated with worms and mold. Limited access to clean drinking water, inadequate medical care. These are a few of the allegations made by migrant families and recent court document documents about their children's conditions while in ICE custody. And this is what I've been saying. If they're shooting Renee Good in the street, if they're pepper balling innocent protesters, there's a guy that was, like, dressed as a squirrel or a rooster or something, just like, playing a drum. ICE agents have to tackle him and put, you know, pepper spray in his eyes. Think about how they're treating the black and brown population behind bars. Think about it. You know this. These are very psychotic people. These are the people who have no empathy for human beings. These are the people that their kink is recreational cruelty. And sadly, the people that, like, watch Fox News, they also like recreational cruelty. And a story like this, as appalling and horrible as it is, as it is to us, we have to understand the cancer in American culture, that there are a lot of white folk out there in America, in the suburbs, in rural America, and probably some even in cities that see this story. And it doesn't move the needle in the least bit, because their default argument back to this will say, well, their parents shouldn't have brought them here. If you break the law, that's not my problem. And that is something I don't know how to fix. This is something the Democratic Party has let run amok in Republican circles because they don't have the courage to confront the cult nature of evangelical Christianity. The grift of their flock, with all of the hundreds of millions of dollars that they have in their account. You all know I've told you about the church that I'm most familiar with because of my life in Oklahoma City is a huge, giant, mega church named Life Church. Life Church has $600 million liquid sitting in a bank account. Their number one goal with all of this stuff with ICE going on isn't to shine a light on the injustice. It is making sure their flock keeps working on their personal relationship with Jesus. Tune out everything else, and you tithe because they have to open up more churches because it's a grift. It's all a lie. They keep you wound up that somehow you're not good enough. You were born of sin, you have to be saved. You know, you can't have all of these thoughts. There's never an explanation that, yeah, you might see this woman over there, this guy over there, think they're hot. I'd like to slap and tickle and rendezvous with them. It's a human thought in the world of all of these Christian nationalists, they start in on their kids at very young ages that they cannot have these thoughts. And the whole thing is all about these diabolical pastors wrapped up in the stylists and the headsets and act like they're so, you know, cool and hip and they're grifters, the whole thing. They're snake oil salesmen. And until we address that and listen, it's their right. It's a free country. But we cannot allow these people to inject themselves into politics. So much so that now they're being taken seriously without us offering a counter narrative and really putting out there what they really are labeling them for the amoral piece of grifters that they are. Which brings me to Erica Kirk. Don't put it up yet. Eric Kirk is big Christian, big. I mean, she talks about the Lord and Jesus a lot. And the people who are so grandiose about their religiosity right now and they see this human suffering and you're getting outflanked by an atheist morally is a real indictment on your religion. And speaking of the combination of these evangelical mega churches, the combination of this grift. Plus, stay focused on yourself. Don't focus on anybody else. Empathy is toxic. Lead you to. In the. In. In the face of all the injustice at the hands of the federal government. Here's what Eric Kirk is doing this coming weekend. Make Heaven Crowded Tour 2026 featuring Eric Kirk as a confirmed speaker. It was yesterday, January 21st, at 6:30. And so number one, I don't know who did the marketing for this Make Heaven crowded again. Because all I thought when I first saw it was like, is this where they drink the Kool Aid? Like, is this the Jim Jones moment? Right? I was just like, are they all going and she's serving Kool Aid and they're all going out? Is that what's going on here? But number two, there are some people in the Catholic Church and y' all know I'm no fan of the Catholic Church at all. I mean, the sex Crime, cover up and all that will always be red flag numero uno for me. But at least there are people in there that are talking about like what the role of the, the central character of the faith of Christianity, Jesus Christ was about. And it was about hanging out with the downtrodden, lifting up the marginalized, spoke out, didn't say that many words. And I've actually studied this. Jesus Christ didn't say that many words in the Bible, but some that he did say is he opposed the accumulation of wealth. And so when you think about the Erica Kirks, the Life Church, the Joel Olsteen of it all, and their desire to accumulate wealth while hoodwinking their flock into thinking they're super moral, this is a cancer. White evangelical Christianity is a cancer. These are the worst of our country. These are the worst people in our country because they use their religion in two ways. As a weapon and as a shield. They weaponize it whenever they want to and say, we're on the moral high ground. You're a lesbian, you deserve to die. You're a lesbian. The cops shouldn't have revived you. Oh, your parents are Mexicans and they brought you over here. Yeah, you should go to jail and eat worm food. And then when you call them out on it, oh my God, they're after the Christians. How dare they? How dare they? We're so oppressed. White Christians are so oppressed in this country and they want it both ways. Because in the religion that duplicity is taught, you can be morally duplicitous. You, you, you thrive in cognitive dissonance. And so this is just a mental massive, massive problem. And it should come as no surprise to anyone that of this cult that I'm talking about, white evangelicals, I think over 80% went and voted triple trumped.
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Pumps
Yeah. I would just say I have to echo what Jennifer was saying in terms of I grew up in this. I was a person that did not believe that the problems of other people could come to me because I was chosen by God and because of my personal relationship with God.
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Jennifer
God.
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Pumps
And so that meant it was very easy for me to dehumanize people. And that is such a shame filled moment every time I think about it that I, I was able to be one of these people that says, well, I'm not gay. So that doesn't really apply to me because I didn't have empathy because I was so narcissistic about my faith. And so that is something that we have to look at because I, that's who I was. And it was only when I realized that's not true because of my own problems and I had to go on this journey, why did I think I was so special? Why was I able to say, well, they're not my problems, so I don't care? And I look at that now, and I see that as base root for why these people are so able to dehumanize people to not have.
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Jennifer
Can I ask you a question? Yes. Okay. Because I think your story is so important. I think it's one of the most helpful stories of public podcasters in America, and I tell you that all the time. When you say that you didn't think it would ever happen to you, and does the distraction of constantly working on your personal relationship with Jesus, where it's only focused on you being BFFs with Jesus, and it never talks about, you know, lifting up the marginalized, does that help you with this delusion that you are his, you know, favored by him? Because I remember there was an instance in our lives, long, long time ago, when if anybody would have told us pumps and me, we're sitting on my front porch smoking cigarettes, Pump's life was just not going well. And she to say that statement of the year, mine wasn't really either. So I'm not trying to just highlight her, but she had to come somebody in her life that was a critical thinker. And I was the only one, the only person in her life. And she was talking about, well, at least. At least this didn't happen. Like, something about her kids. And. And I was like, well, why do other kids get exposed to horrible things but not yours? And she looked me dead in the eye. I'll never forget it. And she goes, I think God just likes me better.
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Pumps
Yeah.
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Jennifer
And I was like, what? And you just. You shut it down immediately. But it's interesting. Your evolution of that to where you are now is really, like, helpful. And there's a ton of people, pumps right now that are deconstructing their faith in light. Don't feel shame about it, because when you started really seeing immoral things, you're on the right side of it. You were able to go, okay, I can turn on this critical thinking here. So really it's a. It's a story of, I'm not trying to be dramatic, but of heroism against all the docu. All the indoctrination in the world. And you were able to go, oh, I'm a lawyer. I can. I can critically think. So I do need to apply this to other people. And I Think it's. I think it's really brave to do that. And I think your story's really, really helpful because I think there's a lot of people that were brainwashed in these life. Churches, Crossings Christian Church, Joel Osteen Church, the pyrotechnic, this Erica Kirk ral belly that she had last night where I don't know if they drank Kool Aid or not. We'll report back on that. And Kevin, crowded again. But I think it's. I think that your story is really, really helpful to go from what you thought was moral to being truly right. Trying to be moral daily.
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Pumps
Just. I know we don't have a ton of time, but I will say, in all the years I was in church every Sunday, never once was I taught about we need to lift up the poor, we need to help the sick. If there was a sick congregant, you know, there'd be a meal train or whatever, or, you know, we're going on a mission trip to be white saviors in, you know, India or whatever.
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Jennifer
So.
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Pumps
But I don't ever remember, like, look at the. Look at the population around you. If there's somebody that needs something, you need to help. It was always in. In the bubble. You had to be in the bubble. And just the ability of the cognitive dissonance that I had was so fucking amazing. It still me to this day. And so, you know, and I just. It kind of. Every time I talk about this, it reminds me of, you know, we have all these shootings, kids are getting killed at school. Nobody gives a shit. Nobody talks about it because we're going to pray for it and that makes it okay. But so in my life, there was. If you prayed, there was no accountability and that you didn't have to do any work because that was done. You know, I around on my husband didn't matter because I said I was sorry and I prayed about it.
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Jennifer
That's the biggest failure of evangelical Christianity is forgiveness without accountability. And truly, forgiveness is not instantaneous. Forgiveness is a process, and we have to be realistic about that. If somebody's truly hurt you or harmed you or injured you or injured another person, you want to forgive them. But you. It's kind of like a trust but verify situation. And evangelical Christianity is just this, you know, your personal relationship. You thought about screwing your secretary. Oh, that's bad. Pray about it. Forgiveness, move on. And it labels all of these petty, stupid things as sin and all of these huge big things is something we just don't talk about. Like kids eating worms and in custody. But these white Christians don't care about it. When they care, they claim to care. Like you said about the when they go to on mission trips, which is so immoral and arrogant and such an American type thing to do. But anyway, thanks for sharing that pumps. That's all we have for this episode. Like subscribe Comment. We'll be back later with more news.