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Jennifer
Foreign.
Pumps
Donald Trump has talked about the enemy from within and going after Democrats and people that protest and organize against him. That is going to continue under super corrupt Pam Bondi, who has made it clear she intends to make a list of people that do not agree with this administration. And we hear it straight from the horse's mouth when an ICE agent says this.
Jennifer
It's not illegal to record. Exactly. Yeah, that's what we're doing.
Pumps
Yeah.
Jennifer
Why are you taking my information down? Because we have a nice little database. Oh, good. And now you're considered a domestic terrorist, so we're videotaping you. Are you crazy?
Pumps
The answer to that question is they are crazy. And Pam Bondi rolled out that you're a domestic terrorist if you key car, you know, Kia Tesla, when Elon Musk was doing his thing with Doge. Now they are compiling a list of every American that protests. Legally, this is a violation of so many of the constitutional rights that each American has. But as we've seen, Trump and this administration, they don't give a shit. The database of Americans that is being collected, and I have no idea what they will do to them, but I guarantee you it won't be legal.
Jennifer
So I think what we have going on here is Trump is turning, like, the Justice Department upside down. Recently, Don Lemon, our friend and fellow independent media. Don's actually a journalist. Pumps and I are not. He went to Minnesota to document the protests and some protests that he was. Protesters that he was embedded with went to a church, and now the DOJ has a bee in its bonnet. Want to arrest Don Lemon. They took the arrest write up to a magistrate who rejected it. It's a misdemeanor charge they wanted to charge him with, and the judge said, no, it's protected by the First Amendment. So then the DOJ appeals the denial of a misdemeanor charge. And my husband, criminal defense attorney, read into all of this all weekend and kind of translated it to me. Ultimately, they give a district judge, a federal judge, two hours to respond to this Don Lemon thing, because they have said on TV like, we will stop at nothing. We'll move heaven and earth. So this district judge is like, hey, they've sealed this document, and they want me to, you know, overturn this, and I can't even access the document. I've never heard of anything like this happening. Usually if a magistrate says there's no probable cause for this misdemeanor, it moves on. But he's intentionally turning everything upside down. And the erosion of the rule of law impacts Every single aspect of our life, our entire society and foundation of it, is based on the rule of law. And Pam Bondi breaking laws with Trump's Nazi Gestapo all day, every day, trying to arrest journalists, executing people, and then calling the victims terrorists. And not to mention the national security memo that Ken Kleppenstein reports on all the time. I guarantee you that Pumps and I, and probably our top commenters, are in some FBI file somewhere labeled as domestic terrorists. Think about that. Think about how insane it is. But what they're doing, you guys, is they're priming all of us. Everybody's getting primed, getting shot in the street. Notice they never go offer people cpr. They intentionally let the victim lay there and die on camera to say, you're not of value. They intentionally have this sycophant, Pam Bondi, who clearly only does whatever this regime wants. It's lawless, complete law, lawlessness. It's like a tyrannical government centered around the personality of this man and all of these loyalists. But the irrelevant erosion of the rule of law for all of these fiscal conservatives that say, oh, I'm, I'm a fiscal conservative, I like, I know he's a nut, but I like to vote the tax policy. I like to vote my wallet, and I'm concerned about my 401k, you're. Because what he's doing with the rule of law, if businesses don't have a fair and impartial court system to take their contracts in, it's a kleptocracy. And the fundamentals of the economy go the way of Russia. If you think that the inflation is bad now, hold your beer because it's going to get a million times worth worse. With Pam Bondi at the helm of.
Pumps
This, and again, looking at constitutional rights, they don't want people to speak out against them. They don't want them to protest any criticism. A domestic terrorist, Greg Bevino, who runs around in his Hitler uniforms or Nazi paraphernalia. This is why he says, this man, Alex Peretta, was shot.
Guest or Moderator
Missions, community leaders and some journalists engage in that heated rhetoric we keep talking about when they make the choice to vilify law enforcement, calling law enforcement names like Gestapo or using the term kidnapping, that is a choice that is made. There are actions and consequences that come from those choices.
Pumps
Okay, stop. Here is what makes me crazy. If you want to talk about rhetoric in this country and how we need to tone down the rhetoric, start with Trump, start with his pathetic, hateful, mean, lie social posts and go all the way down the rhetoric they're talking about does not exist. If you describe this administration and you believe your eyes, you believe what you see with your eyes and you describe it accurately, it's rhetoric. And that is bullshit to the highest order. To even consider that rhetoric would get you killed. So saying, I mean, and I'm not saying this was said, but fuck you, motherfucker, shoot you. Oh, it's completely justified. And for this man to run around and be offended that he was called the gastro Gestapo when he's running around dressing like a Nazi on purpose. Shut the up. It makes me want to bang my head against the wall.
Jennifer
It's because you're applying logic to an illogical situation. The, the purpose of what he's doing is propaganda. Everybody needs to understand the use of propaganda. The intentional use of how choreographed and planned out everything he says there is. We are above the law. The rules that apply to everybody else do not apply to us. We can call you names, we can execute you. You cannot execute us. Our leader can say all of these things with impunity and we worship him and we kneel to him, but you cannot do those things. And it's important that everybody understand this and quit applying, you know, logic from 10, 15 years ago to a two party system. We don't have that right now. We have an authoritarian regime, a fascist regime using and weaponizing propaganda. And that's what Greg Bevino is doing here. So you have to understand what they're doing. The dehumanization of it, the tears of. We get to do this, you don't. The dismantling of equality, the dismantling, the verbal dismantling of equal rights under the law. This is propaganda. This is intentional. It is, it is contradictory on purpose. It is, it is. This is a part of the plan and we all have to understand it. And of note, I just want to say here about Greg Bevino. I've seen him in lots of videos, you know, acting like a tough guy. I'm really shocked at how effeminate his voice speaking manner is. I mean, it's just amazing to me. Like I saw him walking, there was a man that was taller than he. And then I realized, oh, he was walking around a bunch of short men because then you could. The camera kind of zoomed out. So you have with this Bavino here at Napoleon Complex. Yes, Combined with a very feminine affect. I mean he's, he's very effeminate in his, in his speech, which I don't have any issue with that, but I'm not A member of the cult that says that Trump is the idealized masculine man and he happens to wear a full face of makeup every day. I bring this up because there's constantly some sort of lacking of masculinity that these men feel, that if I get a gun and I get a badge and I get to bully people, then that's going to make me feel whole as a man. And time and time again, you go down this rabbit hole with these people and they're not at all the our version of men that we have been raised to think what true masculinity is. Alex Preddy was that right? You know, he was standing up for a woman who was getting beat up by some little Elias officer. But it's super important that everybody understand the weaponization of propaganda that is happening now.
Pumps
Well, and just how they're tearing away our civil rights. And then one thing, we've talked about it, we've alluded to it in earlier episodes, but Pam Bondi has told Minnesota, pop this up, Kylie. If you give us your voter and your electoral information and turn over those files, your state of Minnesota voter files to Pam Bondi and the doj, they will leave Minnesota. She sent a letter with this. So, so what you're telling us now, PAM, is the 130,000 immigrants that are living in Minnesota versus the millions and millions in red states you'll leave tomorrow if they're the voter rolls taken because you vote blue. This is not about immigration. This is about intimidation and fear and tearing away our constitutional rights. But I mean, that surprised me zero that Pam Bondi did that. And I know you weren't surprised about.
Jennifer
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Pumps
And then as we have continued to see in every investigation involved with federal agents and or the Charlie Kirk murder, you see that DOJ wants to manipulate and keep the facts from you. They want to feed you, as Jennifer was saying, straight propaganda. Pull this up. Okay, Jennifer, you're gonna have to read this because I can't see. Okay.
Jennifer
And seeking a Fed court order to stop fed agents from quote destroying or altering evidence regarding the Preddy shooting granted last night by a Trump appointed judge. Minnesota's investigatory chief said feds blocked his inquiry for first time in his 20 plus years even after he got a search warrant to inspect the public space from the document. The highlighted stuff is when the BCA agents and crime scene personnel arrived. They were blocked by federal agents with the DHS from accessing the scene. BCA team also secured a search warrant. Obtaining a warrant to access a public space is unusual, but we thought it was necessary given the federal authority's refusal to allow us access to the space. In my 20 plus years at the BCA prior to 2026, I'd never encountered a situation in which federal authorities blocked BCA access to an incident where there is concurrent federal and state jurisdiction.
Pumps
Surprises me. 0They're covering it up. They did the exact same thing with Renee. Good. They come in, they swoop in, they want to change the narrative and you cannot do that when you have the facts that we know that they have. I mean it's really, really alarming that this is going on.
Jennifer
Not surprising they're intentionally turning upside down the rule of law and the use of propaganda here, diminishing states rights. And I want to remind all of the MAGA people, Republicans that voted and the don't tread on me flags and all this stuff, all of these warnings about a gone Rogue federal government that would erode civil liberties. You're in it. The thing you warned about, the thing Alex Jones, Rush Limbaugh, all of these people warned about. It's you. You're the one who's doing it. You have a federal government superseding states rights here and that you're, you're the, you're the party that was all about states rights. The. Your Supreme Court sent abortion back to the states because the state's rights should supersede. This is all intentional. This is an intentional consolidation of power in the executive branch. And it's really important to note what Pump spoke about earlier about Pam Bondi asking for the voter rolls. This didn't just happen. This has been happening. This has been ongoing. A lot of red states have already handed over all of this. And a lot of governors sounded the alarm months ago about how bizarre this was. And the governor of Minnesota refused to hand over the voter rolls because it's. Our elections are localized, run locally. And the fact that the federal government is wanting this information, the same federal government that's led by the man who has lied now since 2020 about getting his ass beat by Joe Biden by over 7 million votes, got all of his bully little friends to go try to hang Mike Pence, packed his toys up and headed out of the of DC after he stole all these documents. This is serious. This regime is governing like they are never leaving office. This regime is governing like there will never ever be accountability. This, this is intentional propaganda and intentional flaunting of the turning of upside down the judiciary. They're intentionally turning it upside down to where federal judges and US Attorneys are beside themselves. Because every single thing that we do in this nation is based on the rule of law, whether it's business or personal endeavors. The rule of law. And all of these MAGA Republicans that voted for this, they will always tell you to hide. What's the darkness inside them? Well, it's the policies that I like. I liked his policies. His policies or tyranny? It's not even so much fascism as it is tyranny. He wants a government that's centered around him and his frail ego.
Pumps
And he's surrounded with people that will deliver it because they're every bit as broken and craven and vile as he is. And I mean, just watching the erosion of the rights that protect us as citizens is stunning. It is not surprising. And I'm with you. He's never going to leave. He made his. He's making his bunker. I'm sorry, he's making his ballroom a bunker so nobody can get him out, so he can stay in there forever. All right, I know that wasn't very uplifting, but we will be back with more news. Please like this video and subscribe to our channel.
Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Date: January 27, 2026
In this episode, Jennifer and Pumps dissect the recent revelations of an ICE database tracking American protesters, highlighting the implications for civil liberties, rule of law, and the aggressive tactics employed by the Trump administration and allies like Pam Bondi. The hosts bring both outrage and dark humor, connecting these stories to a broader erosion of constitutional rights and the ascendancy of propaganda and authoritarian tactics at the federal level.
This episode provides a raw, impassioned perspective on the state of civil liberties under the current administration, using current events, legal analysis, and biting humor to warn about the dangers of unchecked executive power and propaganda.