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Episode: JD Vance Shamelessly Grifting At Insane TPUSA Event; He Knows He's Lying
Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Date: December 31, 2025

Episode Overview

In this episode, Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan take on J.D. Vance’s increasingly prominent role within MAGA circles, especially his controversial presence at a Turning Point USA (TPUSA) event. Using their signature comedic, unapologetically progressive tone, the hosts unpack what they see as the hypocrisies, grifts, and cult-like behaviors festering within the far right, exemplified by Vance, TPUSA, and red state politicians. The episode sharply critiques white Christian nationalism, the blending of religion and politics, and the ways in which these forces are alienating everyday Americans—particularly young voters.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. J.D. Vance and the MAGA Succession Plan

• [00:00] Jennifer sets the stage by describing J.D. Vance as "bought and paid for by tech billionaires" and claims he’s “prostituted to Trump” in a VP succession scheme backed by wealthy donors.
• The hosts assert that Vance's public persona is a “political prostitute” palatable only to the ultra-rich and MAGA elites, not the general public.
• Notable quote:

  “These forces have now combined with Turning Point. …They want to anoint JD Vance, the failed drag queen, the prostitute vice president, to be the leader of the movement. The problem is JD Vance is not likable.” — Jennifer Welch [00:22]

2. The TPUSA Event and Gaslighting the Public

• The discussion spotlights Vance’s speech at Erica Kirk’s Turning Point convention, mocking the event’s technical issues (“Grindr had outages…”) and the over-the-top rhetoric.
• Clip played: Vance invokes Charlie Kirk as a martyr and urges listeners to “take the country back from the people who took his life,”—a claim the hosts deconstruct.
• Hosts’ rebuttal:
  The alleged shooter in Kirk’s death was from a “MAGA conservative…all white community," undermining Vance and TPUSA’s attempts to blame Democrats for the violence.
• Notable quote:

  “They go to all these Turning Point events and just continue to gaslight the public... The call is coming from inside the house.” — Jennifer Welch [01:37]

3. The “Christian Nation” Lie

• [03:10] Vance’s claim at TPUSA that America “always will be a Christian nation” is called out as blatant pandering.
• Jennifer highlights the hypocrisy, pointing to Vance’s Hindu wife, Usha, and their multicultural family:

  “His liability is his vegetarian, Hindu, brown-skinned from Indian descent wife, which I completely welcome. Usha to the United States of America.” [03:35]

• The hosts emphasize that America’s founders—Jefferson, Madison, Adams—explicitly rejected a Christian theocracy, citing their historic statements.

4. Red State Hypocrisy and the Cult of TPUSA

• The episode condemns the “ultra-nationalism wrapped up in religion,” labeling TPUSA as a cult.
• Specific examples include Oklahoma Governor Kevin Stitt’s public dedication of the state “to Jesus Christ” while presiding over declining social metrics, and TPUSA’s embrace of Russell Brand despite sexual assault allegations.
• Notable quote:

  “This is exactly red state Christian hypocrisy. …They tell the people out in rural Oklahoma and people in the mega churches in the city, they tell them, oh, I love Jesus. And they Christian signal. Meanwhile, he's embracing a rapist on a college campus.” — Jennifer Welch [08:13]

5. Erosion of Critical Thought in Colleges

• The discussion highlights TPUSA’s efforts to influence campus culture by financially incentivizing universities (specifically University of Oklahoma) to side with conservative students over academic rigor and professors’ authority.
• Faculty critical of TPUSA’s politics have been placed on watchlists, signaling a broader attack on educational freedom.

6. Leadership, Death & Irony in TPUSA

• The deaths of TPUSA’s founders—Bill Montgomery (COVID) and Charlie Kirk (gun violence)—are presented as profound ironies, considering their policy advocacy against COVID protections and for guns.
• Notable quote:

  “So you have a cult, you always have deaths and sexual deviancy. ...Turning Point is proven to be a cult. You have the two leaders … died from the things they were speaking in support of.” — Jennifer Welch [12:20]

7. Shifting Religious Landscape – “The Great Unchurching”

• The hosts find hope in national trends: a rapid rise in Americans religiously unaffiliated, church closures, and what Axios dubs “The Great Unchurching.”
• The hypocrisy and moral rot they see in MAGA leadership and “white Christian nationalism” is turning regular people—especially youth—away from right-wing Christianity.
• Notable quote:

  “You are walking, talking, breathing example as to why nobody wants to be a Christian. The cruelty that you excuse of the Trump regime… is backfiring. …People have evolved beyond this form of Iron Age magical thinking. And that's the good news.” — Jennifer Welch [14:29]

Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• On grifting and personality:

  “J.D. Vance is not likable. …He’s a really good political prostitute. But beyond that, the general public does not like him.” — Jennifer Welch [00:14]

• On fake victimhood and right-wing scapegoating:

  “Take the country back from who? From MAGA militants, from the MAG cult… The call is coming from inside the house...” — Jennifer Welch [01:37]

• On hypocrisy in faith and family:

  “For J.D. Vance, who wants to be the heir apparent of this white nationalist cult, he's got a problem… his wife is Hindu.” — Jennifer Welch [03:35]

• On the irony of TPUSA's founder deaths:

  “Turning Point USA was founded in 2012 by Charlie Kirk and Bill Montgomery… Bill Montgomery died from COVID 19. Charlie Kirk died from gun violence. …The fact that this isn’t a leading story every time Turning Point is covered… is fascinating to me.” — Jennifer Welch [12:22]

• On the changing religious landscape:

  “Axios has reported the following. The US is undergoing its fastest religious shift in modern history… They call this article The Great Unchurching of America.” — Jennifer Welch [15:57]

Key Timestamps

• 00:00: Opening criticism of J.D. Vance and TPUSA’s grift
• 01:21: Vance's TPUSA clip about Charlie Kirk’s death
• 03:10: Vance claiming America is and “always will be” a Christian nation
• 04:15: Discussion about Vance’s multicultural family and hypocrisy
• 08:13: Critique of Governor Kevin Stitt & TPUSA embracing Russell Brand
• 09:37: University of Oklahoma, campus politics, and academic freedom under attack
• 12:20: Turning Point founder deaths as an indictment of their policies
• 14:29: Culture war backlash; great unchurching and generational shift

Tone and Language

The hosts’ approach is bracingly sardonic, unflinchingly progressive, and often irreverent:

• Frequent use of charged terms (“failed drag queen,” “political prostitute,” “death cult”) for the right and its leaders
• Humor and snark (“Smokey Eye Sociopath,” “mega church WWE bullshit”) to underscore critiques
• Passionate defense of multiculturalism, LGBTQ+ inclusion, and the separation of church and state

Conclusion

Jennifer and Angie urge listeners to continue “brow beating” JD Vance and exposing what they view as the hypocrisy and grift at the heart of MAGA and TPUSA. They end on a hopeful note: as the religious right’s excesses become more visible, the American public—especially the youth—are rejecting both the ideology and institutions fueling their rise. This, the hosts conclude, presents real hope for the future.