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Foreign. It's important to remember that J.D. vance is bought and paid for by tech billionaires and he was prostituted to Trump. Let this guy be your VP and we'll give you a lot of money for your election campaign. So that's the type of person we're dealing with here. And these forces have now combined with Turning Point. They all see the bruises all over Trump's hands and his cankles, which is why we call him Kinks. And they see that the curtains are closing on the MAGA regime and they want to anoint JD Vance, the failed drag queen, the prostitute vice president, to be the leader of the movement. The problem is JD Vance is not likable. The people who have a lot of money that can pay him to be the person they want him to be, they like him really well because he's a really good political prostitute. But beyond that, the general public does not like him. And here are some examples as to why this man is so unlikable. Here he is speaking at Erica Kirk's Turning Point convention that they just had, which by the way, Grindr had outages again at this recent event. And here he is speaking about the people who killed Charlie Kirk. Play the clip.
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If you miss Charlie Kirk, do you promise to fight what he died for? Do a promise to take the country back from the people who took his life.
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Okay, stop right there. The people that took his life, the alleged shooter, Tyler Robinson, came from a MAGA conservative gun toting all white community in Utah. So what are they talking about? Take the country back from who? From MAGA militants, from the MAG cult that raises kids around guns like the Paul is coming from inside the house, but that yet they go to all of these Turning Point events and just continue to gaslight the public that somehow their enemy, all the people, the turning point, your enemy are the Democrats, the people who want you to have health care, the people who are fighting for your future potential gay child that might be born because you were too brainwashed and radicalized to fight for everybody. There's a party that's actually fighting for equality for everybody on the planet or everybody in the country. Moving along here is Vance talking about this lie that has been perpetuated by the Republican Party for decades. And the lie is that America is this big Christian nation. Now, I will admit we have. We are a nation with a lot of Christians in it, but we are a secular nation and the Republican Party wants to do away with that. Here is Smokey Eye Sociopath, the failed drag queen, lying to this very Religious cult base at turning point. Play the clip.
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But I want to say something here. The only thing that is truly served as an anchor of the United States of America is that we have been and by the grace of God, we always will be a Christian nation.
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Okay, so his wife is Hindu and his wife parents were immigrants. I support that. I support Usha being Hindu. I support that her parents are immigrants. I support her Indian heritage. I fully accept and embrace her into American culture. J.D. vance is a duplicitous hypocrite here. He wants to talk about the United States being a Christian nation because these are the easiest people to manipulate. If you wrap up. This is what fascism is, by the by the way, ultra nationalism wrapped up in religion. And he knows that if he just serves that up and serves those buzzword ups. But he has a liability and his liability is his vegetarian, Hindu brown skinned from Indian descent wife, which I completely welcome. Usha to the United States of America. I welcome JD Vance's mixed race kids. I love that. That's my favorite aspect about America. But for J.D. vance, who wants to be the heir apparent of this white nationalist cult, he's got a problem. So Eric Kirk, as we all know, has been embracing JD Vance and some rather eyebrow raising ways that seem to me, and I think you all are feeling the same way, that Usha has become a liability for him. And so I want to remind everybody that I guess in 2025, at the tail end of 2025, we have to remind everybody that the United States of America is not a theocracy. In fact, the founders went out of their way to explicitly avoid the United States becoming a theocracy. Pop this up, Kylie. So Thomas Jefferson said Christianity neither is nor ever was part of the common law. James Madison is quoted as saying religion and both exist in greater purity the less they are mixed together. And John Adams says, the government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion. These are the founders saying it has nothing to do with the Christian religion. John Strand on Twitter on Christmas Day he tweets, America is a Christian nation. It was settled by Christian pioneers and established by our Declaration of Independence based on biblical truth. Grok Elon Musk's AI and users of Twitter put a community note and it says, America is not a Christian nation. The Constitution names no God, bans religious tests and blocks church rule. Theocracy is exactly what the founders rejected. And so it takes deeper thinking and more open mindedness to get out of this myopic turning point worldview. Where they want to just say, the world is black and white. These are the things you're for, these are the things you're against. America's a Christian nation. America is a nation of freedom of expression, of innovation, of inclusivity. And we haven't always been perfect on that, but we're always striving to be more perfect about it. And so in the Turning Point organization, for me, it's important to point out how linked it is to Christianity. And I want to specifically talk about the Christians that they trot out. So you have Erica Kirk, whose husband was violently and horrifically killed by gun violence. She's not had one thing to say about all of the needless murders and deaths because of guns in this country. Not one thing. She goes out telling women to marry as quickly as possible and start having a family as quick as quickly as possible. And she's on a 247 media bender, never with her kids, riding the coattails of brave, open minded, secular women that fought for her right to do that. And she completely ignores all of that. And this party, this Turning Point future of maga, weird Christian pyrotechnics, WWE megachurch bullshit, embraces constantly rapists and pedophiles. And of course, you know, they have embraced Russell Brand, who recently was charged with more counts of rape. Pop Base is reporting Russell Brand has been charged with more counts of rape and sexual assault charges. And I want to remind you all of a timeline here. So Turning Point did an event at the University of Oklahoma and our governor of this state, his name is Kevin Stitt, he is a huge mega church attendee, doesn't send his kids to Oklahoma public schools, sends them to Oklahoma Christian schools after he won his second term, says he dedicates every square inch of the state to Jesus Christ. Since the said dedication, the state's rankings on every metric have plummeted. He went to the University of Oklahoma to do a Turning Point rally and embraced rapist Russell Brand. This man who claims to be so pro family, so pro life, so pro children, embraces a rapist on a college campus. There he is, right there with Russell Brand. This is exactly red state Christian hypocrisy. And at its finest, this is exactly what they do. They tell the people out in rural Oklahoma and people in the mega churches in the city, they tell them, oh, I love Jesus. And they Christian signal. Meanwhile, he's embracing a rapist on a college campus. And you might remember after this event is when the girl that was taking a course at the University of Oklahoma wrote A paper that deserved an F. And the professor was trans. And the university has sided with Turning Point and this idiotic girl that's a member of a cult who wrote a paper that deserved an F. You know why? Because Turning Point spent $20,000 on campus. So if you live in a red state, you think, okay, at least universities will be a place that values fact. They're taking away all of that in red states. They're making them absolute MAGA hellscapes. And let me just tell you this. There are a lot of people in Oklahoma that oppose every inch of this, that see it crystal clear, that see the capitulation to the moral rot of the Kevin Stiz. And it makes them sick and disgusted. I know a lot of students, active students right now at the University of Oklahoma that are absolutely beside themselves because they had to grow up around the Kevin Stitt form of Christianity, the Erica Kirk form of Christianity, the Russell Brand form of Christianity. And they thought, at least when I get out of the house, I can go to a university and live in a fact zone in a critical thinking world. Well, the University of Oklahoma has taken that from them. And it is such a shame. And I want to remind you, they're doing all of this for an organization they're scared of. An organization called Turning Point. And before Charlie Kirk was murdered, Turning Point would put professors on watch list. Professors that taught critical thinking, professors that taught tolerance, professors that taught social justice. They don't want that. Turning Point didn't want that. And so I want to remind you, the two founders of Turning Point are the two following people. And here's what their fate was. Pop this up, kylie. Turning Point USA was founded in 2012 by Charlie Kirk and Bill Montgomery. Two of their major policy pushes were a more prominent gun culture and zero Covid restrictions. Bill Montgomery died from COVID 19. Charlie Kirk died from gun violence. The fact that this isn't like a leading story every time Turning Point is covered, that the two founders of it, one died of COVID the other died of guns while he was talking about gun violence is fascinating to me. But this leads me to when you have a cult, you always have deaths and sexual deviancy. And Turning Point is proven to be a cult. You have the two leaders and founders of it that died from the things that they were speaking out, speaking in support of. So they thought covered restrictions were just terrible. Well, this guy who funded all of Turning Point died from it. Charlie Kirk openly said, if kids have to die and people have to die, so I have a right to have gun. That's, that's, I'm, I'm willing to take that bargain. And he died for that. He died for everybody's right in America to own a machine gun, which is really, really fucked up because in my opinion, I disagreed with everything Charlie Kirk said. Charlie Kirk should be alive today. He should not be dead. Too many people die because of gun violence in the United States of America. But I have some good news about all of this. As J.D. vance, the heir apparent of MAGA, and all of these dark forces and all of this money trying to change the youth vote and people are see what it is. Erica Kirk out lecturing women about family, about life, and she's dressed as Tammy Fay Baker and propping up all of these, you know, rapists. And Kevin Stitt preaching to everybody about his Christian faith and appearing on stage at a university against a sex offender. And all of the pyrotechnics, mega church bullshit. It's backfiring when people see it. I'm used to it because I grew up in Oklahoma. This form of cult, like cruel, anti gay purity culture, anti woman evangelical Christianity. I'm used to it, but the rest of the country isn't. And now that they're seeing it, Axios has reported the following. The US is undergoing its fastest religious shift in modern history, marked by a rapid increase in the religiously unaffiliated, numerous church closures nationwide, and they call this article the great unchurching of America. So this is the good news at a time where you have Erica Kirk and Charlie Kirk embracing the back of each other's heads on stage, turning point, trotting out a rapist and a sex offender. The I dedicate every square inch of my state to Jesus Christ. And I'm so pro life and so pro kid. I get up on stage with a rapist and a sex offender. I'm talking about you, Kevin Stitt. People see it and they see what hypocrites you are. And you are walking, talking, breathing example as to why nobody wants to be a Christian. The cruelty that you excuse of the Trump regime, excusing all of his cruelty to immigrants, separating children from their parents, sending children without lawyers in front of a judge into court. The cruelty and the moral depravity at the epicenter of the turning point and the MAGA movements form of Christianity is backfiring. People don't like it. People have evolved beyond this form of Iron Age magical thinking. And that's the good news. So the reason I discuss all of this with you all is because Kanks is. I mean, he's practically already three feet under. We're just waiting for the other six to happen, right? For waiting for him to be six feet under in total. And the MAGA movement knows this, which is why they're promoting J.D. vance so much. Turning Point, who's going to shift all of its dollars, knows this. And that's why they're promoting J.D. vance so much. So our job, listener, is to keep brow beating JD Vance and showing what a failed drag queen, political prostitute this man is. He cannot stand up for his wife. He cannot stand up for his children. He only talks about a Christian nation and talks about white culture when he is an example of his family is an example of one of the coolest things about America, multiculturalism. And he can't even embrace his own family. And he will send his own family down the river and say bullshit things at Turning Point. Like, now we don't have to apologize for being white. Nobody ever apologizes for being white. That's never happened. Ever. It's ridiculous. Ridiculous. So we need to keep brow beating JD Vance. We need to keep the pressure on him. We need to keep exposing Turning Point for the grift ridiculous death cult that it is. Remember, both of its founders dead now, both of them for things that they preached against actually killed them. And so keep your eyes on J.D. vance, because our work that we can do now can prevent this man from ever getting anywhere near a ballot by 2028. All right, that's all we have. Like subscribe, be back later with more news.
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Episode: JD Vance Shamelessly Grifting At Insane TPUSA Event; He Knows He's Lying
Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Date: December 31, 2025
In this episode, Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan take on J.D. Vance’s increasingly prominent role within MAGA circles, especially his controversial presence at a Turning Point USA (TPUSA) event. Using their signature comedic, unapologetically progressive tone, the hosts unpack what they see as the hypocrisies, grifts, and cult-like behaviors festering within the far right, exemplified by Vance, TPUSA, and red state politicians. The episode sharply critiques white Christian nationalism, the blending of religion and politics, and the ways in which these forces are alienating everyday Americans—particularly young voters.
“These forces have now combined with Turning Point. …They want to anoint JD Vance, the failed drag queen, the prostitute vice president, to be the leader of the movement. The problem is JD Vance is not likable.” — Jennifer Welch [00:22]
“They go to all these Turning Point events and just continue to gaslight the public... The call is coming from inside the house.” — Jennifer Welch [01:37]
“His liability is his vegetarian, Hindu, brown-skinned from Indian descent wife, which I completely welcome. Usha to the United States of America.” [03:35]
“This is exactly red state Christian hypocrisy. …They tell the people out in rural Oklahoma and people in the mega churches in the city, they tell them, oh, I love Jesus. And they Christian signal. Meanwhile, he's embracing a rapist on a college campus.” — Jennifer Welch [08:13]
“So you have a cult, you always have deaths and sexual deviancy. ...Turning Point is proven to be a cult. You have the two leaders … died from the things they were speaking in support of.” — Jennifer Welch [12:20]
“You are walking, talking, breathing example as to why nobody wants to be a Christian. The cruelty that you excuse of the Trump regime… is backfiring. …People have evolved beyond this form of Iron Age magical thinking. And that's the good news.” — Jennifer Welch [14:29]
On grifting and personality:
“J.D. Vance is not likable. …He’s a really good political prostitute. But beyond that, the general public does not like him.” — Jennifer Welch [00:14]
On fake victimhood and right-wing scapegoating:
“Take the country back from who? From MAGA militants, from the MAG cult… The call is coming from inside the house...” — Jennifer Welch [01:37]
On hypocrisy in faith and family:
“For J.D. Vance, who wants to be the heir apparent of this white nationalist cult, he's got a problem… his wife is Hindu.” — Jennifer Welch [03:35]
On the irony of TPUSA's founder deaths:
“Turning Point USA was founded in 2012 by Charlie Kirk and Bill Montgomery… Bill Montgomery died from COVID 19. Charlie Kirk died from gun violence. …The fact that this isn’t a leading story every time Turning Point is covered… is fascinating to me.” — Jennifer Welch [12:22]
On the changing religious landscape:
“Axios has reported the following. The US is undergoing its fastest religious shift in modern history… They call this article The Great Unchurching of America.” — Jennifer Welch [15:57]
The hosts’ approach is bracingly sardonic, unflinchingly progressive, and often irreverent:
Jennifer and Angie urge listeners to continue “brow beating” JD Vance and exposing what they view as the hypocrisy and grift at the heart of MAGA and TPUSA. They end on a hopeful note: as the religious right’s excesses become more visible, the American public—especially the youth—are rejecting both the ideology and institutions fueling their rise. This, the hosts conclude, presents real hope for the future.