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Why have I asked my electrician I found on Angie.com to bury my pet hamster Nibbles in our yard for me? Because I was so moved by how carefully he buried my electrical wires, I knew I could trust him to bury my sweet Nibbles after his untimely end.
Commentator 1
Huh?
Homeowner
Nibbles gone too soon. May he scurry in peace.
Legal Analyst
Hey, sorry about your pet, but I just wire stuff.
Homeowner
Nibbles would have loved you like a brother.
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Host
There's some piping hot tea on Elon Musk's Free Speech website involving none other than Press Pants. Scott Jennings, the most universally hated man in cable news. An insufferable prick of the highest order. And Chef Joe Guerra on Twitter Pumps says the following Pop this up hi Scott, you may not remember me from my Broadway performing days in nyc, but you're being a complete lying. So here it is. Scott Jennings swings both ways. Not that I care who gives a but he's lied about this since 2009 and there are at least 1100 photos of him at Fire island bars from back in the day. Hey at Adam Mockler asked him about this on cnn. Chris Murphy used satire Sitting Senator Chris Murphy responded to a report on Twitter at least 26 Iranian shadow fleet vessels bypass U. S Blockade and sarcastically Murphy says, awesome. Scott Jennings not being the sharpest knife in the drawer, doesn't understand sarcasm. But let me get back to these bisexual batting for both teams rumors, because that's really what we're all here for, right? Chef Joe Gara doesn't stop there with the Fire island photos. He goes on, Scott Jennings is a liar. He was a liberal Republican and hitched his wagon to his Orange Master because Trump blackmailed him and there's money there. If you want to know how Trump gets away with just asking anyone who performed in the Arts between 2002 and 2010 in NYC, remember when you sued to go to Jack Rose Steakhouse and drink six martinis every night and Hit on the wait staff. Remember when you stumbled out of trailer park at 4am with a guy named Richie, not his real name, and kissed him for 30 minutes at karaoke night? Remember when you hung out at the Playwright and tried to take home dancers? Oh, then there's your extensive hanging out at Pravda on Houston. Remember those frosted glass bathrooms? Yeah. Everyone else does too. Chef Joe Gara has said that he has given these photographs to a journalist that can vet these more thoroughly. But I just want to say, as I always say, I have no problem if Scott Jennings like to swings, but likes to swing both ways. If he likes a penis from time to time and then changes his mind another day, I don't give a. It's the hypocrisy that is so disgusting.
Commentator 1
Pumps well and you look at this and obviously we don't know that this is true. In the coming days, they're going to show us are these allegations provable? But I found in my experience with lying people, this guy, this chef, he has laid out a lot of details, unnecessary details, details that give credibility to this story. And just the final thing I'll say on this is of course he does this. I mean, we don't know that for fact, but of course he does because that's what MAGA does. They sit there and they say, we're family values. We only want traditional marriage. And then they're on Grindr crashing the site. Of course he's a hypocrite. Surprises me. Zero.
Host
Yeah. And I would just point out that a lot of the times that mag that Grindr has crashed, I believe the majority of those times Scott Jennings was was present. You can conclude from that what you will. But Josh, the next story I want to talk to you all about is yesterday you and I reported on Tucker Carlson. I had no idea that Trump was going to be this crazy. And I'm so sorry. I'm going to, you know, I'm really, really sorry. And Adam Mockler, who I love, he is a young, progressive media influencer on CNN a lot and goes toe to toe with alleged bisexual Scott Jennings. He dug out from the Fox News lawsuit where Fox had to pay $1 billion. These text messages from Tucker Carlson. Pop this up. Adam says Tucker Carlson is not our friend. He should not be welcomed into civilized society as if he did nothing wrong. We can happily watch the MAGA movement self destruct without mistaking Tucker as a good person. In 2021, while still at Fox News, Tucker Carlson privately texted about how much he hated Trump. Private text Also revealed that he knew the 2020 election was not stolen from Trump. T would then go on air and say the exact opposite to tens of millions of Americans. That Trump was the best president ever and that Dominion voting machines were totally rigged. He intentionally told destructive lies to Americans in mass for career gain and profit. He would do the exact same today, just from a different angle. Tucker Carlson helped mainstream the great replacement theory by planting the seeds into millions of Americans heads on prime time. Fox News. Tucker Carlson doesn't genuinely care about human rights or the quote, sanctity of Islam. Remember, the enemy of your enemy is not always your friend. Pop up the text messages. Here is Tucker, January 4, 2021. We are very, very close to being able to ignore Trump most nights. I truly can't wait. He follows up. I hate him passionately. I blew up Peter Navarro today in frustration. I actually like Peter, but I can't more of this. Josh, you saw the video yesterday where Tucker tries to apologize.
Legal Analyst
Well, and I think my take yesterday on it, and it's consistent with, with what it would be today, is that Tucker did not have an epiphany that Donald Trump is somehow an awful human being or a horrible leader. He had an epiphany that whatever he wanted from Donald Trump, he wasn't able to get any more and thus he changed his tune. And you can see, and we were talking about this earlier too, you can see these Republicans are complicit and none of them like or respect Trump. But they bend the knee to Trump, they publicly will not speak against Trump. And that's even worse in my opinion. I mean, it's even worse being complicit in that. And I would never think that Tucker Carlson is someone who would be a friend to human rights. Never in a million years, like any anytime that guy talks or speaks, regardless of what bullshit he says, you know that he's only saying it to serve his own interest, period.
Host
And I think the through line here is that Tucker Carlson knows that Donald Trump's approval rating is like 30, 32%. It's over. It is over. It is done. Put a fork in it, right? Greg Gutfeld and Fox. These people are financial Darwinists. They want their money to survive first and foremost. And Trump is a short term gamble and he's going to either drop dead or be in a nursing home or an insane asylum, which he likes to talk before we know it, here is Greg Gutfeld talking about taxing billionaires on Fox News. Play the clip.
Greg Gutfeld
Who says he wants to tax billionaires is not A selfless person. He is immune from that kind of pain. He can do well with $999 million. Right. So don't. Don't. What he's doing is that he knows that any kind of transfer of wealth will never affect him. Once you get to be so rich, you tax anybody and anything because you know you're going to make it through.
Host
Okay, so they're trying to criticize progressive gubernatorial candidate Tom Steyer about the taxing of billionaires, but he just admits it. There's. You can tax these bed wedding billionaires and they will never feel it. They will never feel it. But if you get on Twitter, you see Bill Ackman, you see all of these tech AI guys, you see Peter Thiel, you see the worst of the worst. The worst. Elon Musk, Boodle baby. I am a victim. I cannot pay taxes. You cannot come after me. And even Fox knows how insane that is. Pumps.
Commentator 1
I mean, these people are absolute and hypocrites. Greg Gutfield, we all know he is dumber than a box of hot rocks. He likes to call people names about their appearance when he is a bra kneading man. So let's just him sitting there on Fox News acting like you know he's a bad guy because he's a billionaire while he sucks off Donald Trump and Elon Musk and sings their praises like he can't pick a lane because he doesn't give a. He's an opportunist. He's a hypocrite. He sucks.
Host
Completely agree. Moving along. Texas now can force schools to include the Ten Commandments in classrooms. Pop this up. The fifth Circuit Court of Appeals says Texas can force public schools to put up Ten Commandments posters. It's a horrible but predictable outcome that will undoubtedly be appealed to scotus. This is Christian nationalism, Josh.
Legal Analyst
This was an en banc decision. It was a 9, 8 decision at the 5th Circuit. And it's one of the problems that a lot of us lawyers have with court decisions like this where the court doesn't follow existing precedent. But we know that the court wants to get to a specific resolution. So what do they do? They create new law and they find new ways to issue those laws. And that's what happened in this particular case. It's. It's clear that there's separation of church and state. It's clear that the 10th Amendment, the 10amendments in a public school would violate that, the establishment clause of the first Amendment. But the court wants it there. They want to. They no longer liked to separate Church and state that that's no longer a principle that our government believes in this existing government. So they find a way. It'll go to the Supreme Court. And I'm not any more optimistic that the Supreme Court will, will withhold these challenges either. I mean, I think we're just left with this for now until we can elect leaders that respect, I think, the fact that religion doesn't belong in school, period.
Host
Yeah. And I think that, you know, once they start down this road, then you're going to have, you know, you're going to have people that will make a lawsuit like the Satanist Ten Commandments, and you just open up this whole can of worms. But I just want to point this out. We have been sold a bill of goods and propaganda that America was founded on religious freedom. That's a lie. The freaks in England left. All of the religious puritans came here because they couldn't control and force the religion on everybody there. And they came here and they have been trying for 250 years to make this a Christian nation. The people that have that ruin everything, the reason we can't have nice things are these white evangelical Christians. Europe got the cool people, we got the religious freaks, and we're still dealing with it. All right, moving along, Trump, there's never been a better time to be a white collar criminal, which I'm sure is not very good for your business, Josh. But pop this up. The DOJ dropped 23, 000 criminal cases, including hundreds of investigations into terrorism or white collar crime and drugs, while prosecuting 32,000 new immigration cases in just the first six months of Trump's second term. Josh.
Legal Analyst
Well, this, this article is pretty powerful. And I don't think there's any denying the fact that white collar cases involve people that have a lot of money and have a lot of means. They're not going to prosecute those types of cases. They're not priority cases. Instead, we're going to focus on immigration. But one takeaw way I did get from this article in addition was it cites a letter that was written in October of 25 by approximately 300 career employees with the Department of Justice. And briefly within that letter, it says that the Justice Department cannot uphold the rule of law when it carries out the President's retribution campaign and protects his allies when it violates court orders. Further, says it also cannot keep our country safe when it oust FBI employees, prosecutors, and it cannot protect civil rights when it drives out 75% of attorneys from the civil rights division. So, and there's that article references this particular letter that was written by these career employees and that this would be a good summary for those of you that don't know to read this to see what's happening to the Department of Justice. It has been weaponized for some time now. We talked about that earlier. The rule of law is under attack. All of this stuff is real. And for those people that work in the trenches at the Department of Justice, those people that have integrity, they pretty much have all left by now. And so what you have are a bunch of lynch men for Donald Trump carrying out his orders on a day in, day out basis. And it's a scary time for us because it's the first time in our lifetime that we can remember having a Department of justice that works at the complete behest of the President of the United States.
Host
Pumps a lot of Trump's campaigning in right wing media, manosphere and podcasting spaces is the deep state. We have to get rid of the deep state. What Josh just alluded to there is that that was projection and now he is literally installing a true deep state. Anybody who was a nonpartisan government employee that wanted to uphold the rule of law has been eliminated. And now we're being they're trotting out multiple cash Patels, multiple Pam Bondies in these positions. What is your take on all of that?
Commentator 1
Well, I think you look at it and you know, the U.S. attorney's offices have lost so many good attorneys that were not political, that just did their jobs and they were advertising on social media. We want people that have law degrees and are loyal to Donald Trump because they here's the thing. Trump has no value for rules. He has no value for the law. He doesn't give a shit. He'll break it. It doesn't matter. It's an impediment to what he wants. And this will take generations, I mean generations to undo this. And that bullshit projection about we're going to weaponize, it's weaponized against us. He's specifically calling out on social media, go after Comey, go after Letitia James. And then that's what happens. But I what strikes me about this the least, I mean, all of Trump's stuff is smoke and mirrors, lies, hypocrisy, but not going after white criminals because he is a white collar criminal. That tracks because he's a white collar criminal. He doesn't want to pay the fines, he doesn't want to follow the law. So he doesn't want his buddies to either. And that's really the only truthful thing that I've seen him do, I don't give a shit about the law.
Host
And I would just want to say this. Let's be cautious about saying it's going to take generations to undo this. Maga did this in 18 months. And that whole. It's going to take generations to undo this is the old incremental thinking of the Democratic Party. We too can be all gas and no brakes. We too can storm into the executive branch, storm into the, the Justice Department. We can storm into all of these departments and purge all of these dipshit Trump loyalists loyal at record speed. Governing incrementally was what Merrick Garland did. And we have to completely let go of that style of language because one thing Trump has taught the Democrats is you can govern all gas and no breaks. And we need to do it for justice and we need to do it for good. And we cannot just seed, oh God, they've just broken the country forever. We have to go in there and ferociously reclaim everything out all of these donors, out all of these loyalists. I'm talking like Nuremberg style trials for all of the people that have committed crimes. That's my take. Like, we need to change our mindset on this incremental fix thing because that is the Democrats worst, worst, worst feature.
Legal Analyst
That's right. And we, we've never seen anything like this before with the Department of Justice. But I think if we've learned one thing since the last election, when we saw Merrick Garland come in and within, you know, he took two or three years to where he even started to investigate or prosecute these cases, that type of mentality is not going to work. You're not going to meet that force with that kind of mentality. You're going to have to come in fast, hard and strong to change things and create waves. And there's no mistake about that, because you have a Department of justice right now that basically is directing its own attorneys to violate their own ethical responsibilities and to basically seek out the President's retribution campaign. And we've never seen that before. So if you're going to stop that, you're going to have to do it with as much force as you're being met with.
Host
That's what we have to do. We have to, as the opposition party, we have to do as quickly and as ferociously as they do, but for good restoration, atonement, a reckoning, like, we
Legal Analyst
have to do it and be very unapologetic about doing it. Admit that that's what you're doing and say this is why we're doing it. And be honest about it.
Host
Yeah. None of this tiptoeing. Oh, we. We don't want to appear. Have the appearance. No. We want to have the appearance that you guys suck. You guys are anti American, you guys break laws, you guys are corrupt. And we're going to send you to prison.
Legal Analyst
We're going to restore the rule of law unapologetically. And if you don't like it, you get to go to prison.
Host
That's right. We'll leave it there. All right. That's all we have. We will keep you abreast of the Scott Jennings stuff that is developing on Twitter right now, because I'm here for it. And make sure you subscribe. And we'll be back later with more news.
Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Date: April 22, 2026
In this raucous, firebrand episode, progressive hosts Jennifer Welch and Angie Sullivan (“Pumps”) dive into explosive internet rumors targeting Fox News commentator Scott Jennings, the dark reality behind Fox News personalities like Tucker Carlson, and a rapid-fire breakdown of the MAGA-fueled transformation of American institutions. With biting humor and candid commentary, they contextualize the fallout from right-wing hypocrisy, Christian nationalism in schools, the weaponization of the DOJ under Trump’s second term, and more. Legal analyst Josh joins to unpack the policy ramifications behind these headline-grabbing stories.
[01:05 – 04:44]
“If Scott Jennings likes to swing both ways ... I don't give a. It's the hypocrisy that is so disgusting.” (Host, 03:40)
“Of course he does this ... That's what MAGA does. They say, ‘we're family values,’ then they're on Grindr crashing the site. Of course he's a hypocrite. Surprises me. Zero.” (Pumps, 04:02)
[04:44 – 09:03]
“We are very, very close to being able to ignore Trump most nights. I truly can't wait … I hate him passionately.” (Tucker Carlson, quoted by Host, 06:48-07:02)
“Tucker Carlson doesn't genuinely care about human rights or the ‘sanctity of Islam.’ …The enemy of your enemy is not always your friend.” (Host, 07:05)
“Tucker did not have an epiphany that Donald Trump is somehow an awful human being ... He had an epiphany that whatever he wanted from Donald Trump, he wasn't able to get anymore.” (Legal Analyst, 07:26)
[08:23 – 10:43]
“Once you get to be so rich, you tax anybody and anything because you know you're going to make it through.” (Greg Gutfeld, 09:15)
“Greg Gutfield, we all know he's dumber than a box of hot rocks ... He's an opportunist. He's a hypocrite. He sucks.” (Pumps, 10:12)
[10:43 – 12:30]
“The court doesn't follow existing precedent … It's clear that the Ten Commandments in a public school would violate...the First Amendment. But the court wants it there. …This will go to the Supreme Court, and I'm not any more optimistic.” (Legal Analyst, 11:18)
“The people that ruin everything, the reason we can't have nice things, are these white evangelical Christians. Europe got the cool people, we got the religious freaks, and we're still dealing with it.” (Host, 12:11)
[12:30 – 19:47]
“The Justice Department cannot uphold the rule of law when it carries out the President's retribution campaign and protects his allies.” (Legal Analyst, 14:25)
“Trump has no value for rules. …He doesn't want his buddies [prosecuted] either. That’s really the only truthful thing I've seen him do: ‘I don't give a shit about the law.’” (Pumps, 16:41)
“MAGA did this in 18 months … We too can storm the executive branch, purge all of these dipshit Trump loyalists at record speed. …We need Nuremberg-style trials for all the people that have committed crimes.” (Host, 17:39)
“You’re going to have to come in fast, hard, and strong to change things and create waves.” (Legal Analyst, 18:54)
“None of this tiptoeing … We want to have the appearance that you guys suck. You guys are anti-American, you guys break laws, you guys are corrupt. And we're going to send you to prison.” (Host, 20:09)
“We're going to restore the rule of law unapologetically. And if you don't like it, you get to go to prison.” (Legal Analyst, 20:22)
With their signature wit and righteous anger, Jennifer and Angie (“Pumps”) frame this episode as a rallying cry: calling out hypocrisy, exposing the dangers of right-wing authoritarianism, and declaring that restoration requires unapologetic action. The pod ends with a promise to follow up on developing stories—especially the Scott Jennings drama—reminding listeners to subscribe for more unfiltered progressive analysis.