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Pumps
MAGA foreign policy goes like this. Israel first, Argentina first. MAGA domestic policy is on the lips. The that's it. That's the list. And what's happening in Argentina should be the canary in the coal mine for all of the MAGA voters who voted because of inflation and they wanted to be able to get further ahead in their jobs. They were sick of income inequality and they felt like Trump for God knows what reason was somehow going to be the change agent. And so what we have right here put up this headline, Kylie, is Trump has extended a $20 billion line of money to Argentina to stabilize Javier Malay's failing economy. And you may be like, why the does he care about this guy? Why are we giving Argentina $20 billion? Well, it turns out Milei is a huge MAGA thumper and he went all in on muskonomics. He's a muskonomics guy and you have Elon Musk and Scott Bessant. Trump has no economic plan. He has concepts of a plan, but he's never had an economic plan because he bankrupts everything. So here's what happened in Argentina. Pop this up, Kylie. Economic collapse and then we're going to have the U.S. bailout. Milei assumed office in December of 2023amid hyperinflation and economic chaos. He pushed a shock therapy agenda. Deregulation and spending cuts. He basically eliminated a bunch of departments and did exactly what Elon Musk did with Doge and what Scott Besson, others, Howard Lutnick and Trump all continue to do with the United States economy. He issued a mega decree to slash regulations across the economy. Economy was extremely fragile. Capital flight and currency pressure. So all investors left Argentina. Over 1 billion sold to defend the peso and he drained the reserves. And now Melei is seeking $20 billion US bailout and aid package. This happened in two years. Yeah, this happened in two years. And this is the exact plan. This is muskonomics. This libertarian cut all social services. We're so smart, we're going to fix everything. And now the United States of America is bailing out Argentina and you have people whose social services have been cut. And it seems like every single time I turn around pumps. This administration puts Israel first and it puts Argentina first. And you have a bunch of Americans who voted for this man who live in rural America that they voted for him because they think he loves the country and he thought he was going to help them and he lied to them. He lied his ass off to these people. They were nothing but a transactional vote for him. Meanwhile, their hard, hardworking dollars are going to Israel to kill kids and to Argentina because they elected a dipshit.
Kylie
Well, and it just. All we hear about is that rural hospitals are closing, younger people can't buy a house. We've got people on social services because they work full time, but we. The minimum wage is so low. And I look at this and I think if we don't have money to fund education or hospitals or Social Security, we're taking money that people put into the government and we're saying they can't have it back. Then why the fuck, where are you getting the money to bail out a foreign country? If you can't help your own citizens, why are you doing it to other people? And then I think it's because they don't give a shit. They don't care.
Pumps
Yes. And Kylie put up the Midas touch tweet. MAGA told us over and over again that Milei was bringing prosperity to Argentina. They used MAGA propaganda machine to highlight his austerity politics as a model for the U.S. now that the outcome has been devastating, they are making the United States bail out their failed experiment. End wokeness. In 2023, when Milei was running for president, all he had to do was stand next to a Don't tread on me flag because that hits hard in Maga and end wokeness tweets. Holy shit. Argentina just elected Javier Milei as their next president. History has been made today. And Elon Musk says prosperity is ahead for Argentina. We're two years, a year and a half behind them right now. You guys, Elon Musk went into the federal government and they did this exact same thing. The big beautiful bill is this exact same thing. So then that leaves me the question, who's going to bail us out? Because last time I checked, everybody hated us because Kanks is so unlikable, right?
Kylie
I mean, no one's going to bail us out. They're going to celebrate the fall of the United States and Trump, we are the seventh bankruptcy that he had. I mean, look at the dollar. Look at all all the financial indicators. You're right. We are two years away from this if we make it there.
Pumps
All right? And then you may remember like Elon Musk with the chainsaw and he's, I'm taking a chainsaw. And he was all fucked up on ketamine in his sunglasses after he did the Nazi salutes, right? The guy that handed it to him, you guys, was Milei. So you see that down in the bottom, right? So in Malay he goes. Javier Millet goes all over Argentina and he talks about just cutting spending, cutting spending, cutting spending. You guys, it's crazy to say this, but like, we had a country, 250 years of economic policies, procedures, independence. Is it perfect? No. Has capitalism set us up? Yes, all of those things. But a man that benefited off of all of this taxpayer money and government subsidies runs around with a chainsaw. And he's respected because for Americans, I think, well, he's rich, he must be smart. And we're going to just completely tank our economy as pumps Just mentioned, the US Dollar is having the worst performance it's had, I think, since the 70s. And we're going to go the way of Argentina soon. All for like these broken, untreated, drug addict, emotionally stunted people.
Kylie
Well, and the economic inequality. We have so many billionaires, they will not suffer as much because they have piles of money to fall back on. It's the people that came out and voted for Trump in droves. They are the people that will suffer the most. They absolutely are.
Pumps
And already right now, farmers are completely suffering because Trump's plan is, you know, around with China. Tariffs, no tariffs, trade, war, blah, blah, blah. China, we're only 10% of their economy. So they're like 10% BFD will make it up somewhere else. So Trump has gutted the farming industry and guess what happens now? Now they need a bailout. Pop this up alongside, of course, the President's effort to realign America around American products and making all of these new deals. We are at a point where we're looking at the harvest, where we're looking at our soybean, corn, wheat, so cotton farmers who are facing very, very difficult times. We are currently in conversations here at the White House across the government on a farmer aid package. In our current farmer aid package, the reason they need a package is because we have incompetent leadership that completely tanked their industry, their customers. The soybean farmers were the Chinese. They, they've sold zero soybeans to China because China said, f you, we're not playing around with this guy. They moved on. And so now these farmers, a lot of which voted for Trump, they're affected. But also the machinery industry, the transportation industry, the freightliner of this, I believe, with everything in me, and I don't want this to happen, but I think the stock market is overvalued right now. We're at the midst of an AI bubble. It's about to pop. And all of these Trumpian muskonomics, Scott Bessant, Howard Netlik, it's all going to hit and we are going to be in horrific, horrific shape.
Kylie
And again, it goes to like, Trump created a problem because he pissed off China and he couldn't be. He couldn't put anybody on his staff or in his cabinet that had any expertise in economics. So he bankrupts the soybean and the farmer. So now he's going to bail them out because he created the problem. Now he's going to give him the solution. But the solution is shortsighted.
Pumps
Once China figures out we can buy.
Kylie
From other countries, we don't have to fuck with them.
Pumps
They already have figured it out.
Kylie
Right, but they're not going to come back next year.
Pumps
Right.
Kylie
I mean, he cannot continue to bail out because he's running the economy into the ground. And it just, it slays me how people don't realize the reason we're in this spot is because of Trump.
Pumps
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Kylie
Such a failure in leadership. This is just such a moment that needs fighters. And we just, we're not meeting the moment in the Democratic Party. We are not doing it.
Pumps
Not in leadership.
Kylie
Not in leadership. We've got people, you know, Rona, Robert Garcia. Those are fighters. But then you have Hakeem Jeffries. I did hear him on an appearance say, well, you know, I made my opposition and I wrote a letter. I'M like, I can't take it anymore. The strongly worded letters are not helping.
Pumps
It's just, I don't know what's wrong with them. I literally, sometimes I think, because their, their response is so impotent. Pumps, I think, are they for Trump? Because I can't compute it. I can't understand. To me, this is a moment where you save democracy. And Nancy Pelosi has been a minority leader before. Of course, she was the majority as well, but she whooped everybody into shape so much, and she was excellent at bossing everybody around, and everybody followed suit. And that is just not happening with Hakeem. Hakeem, a black man, voted to honor a racist. I give up. I don't, I, I do not understand that.
Kylie
I don't either.
Pumps
I will never understand that. I, in my world, a Democratic leader, black, white, whatever, lesbian, trans, should never give daylight, not an ounce, not even a tiny little ounce of daylight to a racist.
Kylie
Well, and they hide behind the free speech argument, but it's like, you can support.
Pumps
I mean, we've said, use your free speech, Hakeem. Use your speech to speak out against racism and to speak out gun violence. Use your speech better.
Kylie
Absolutely. Especially right now.
Pumps
Free speech goes both ways.
Kylie
And here's the deal. We are sitting around and watching this country go to the. And these are the responses that we get. History is not going to judge this kindly, I swear.
Pumps
I mean, I've just had it with Hakeem. I mean, I just. He has got to get his together or step aside. This is just. I, I, I, I can't believe it. I just. And Chuck Schumer, you got to go to. I mean, it's. Just give it to Chris Murphy. Just pass it over to him. Pass it. Just pass it to him. Be in the Senate. Go big dick around at some club. You want to hang out with other swinging dicks in D.C. right? You know, until your next election. And same for Hakeem. But come on, man, I've had it. All right, Buy our book. Life is a Lazy Susan of shit sandwiches. The shit sandwiches that's being served up today is one right here. This little sandwich is Hakeem Jeffries total sandwich. And then we have Chuck Schumer another sandwich. But seriously, buy our book. It's a great way to get to know Pumps and me and a great way to support our podcast. Subscribe and we'll see you all later.
Episode: MAGA Farmers Turn Against Trump After Their Lives Are Ruined
Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Date: September 26, 2025
In this episode, Jennifer Welch, Angie “Pumps” Sullivan, and recurring co-host Kylie dive into the unraveling of Donald Trump’s support among rural, largely MAGA-aligned farmers — people who once saw him as a champion. They examine the collapse of the Argentine economy under Javier Milei’s MAGA-style “muskonomics,” Trump’s costly bailouts for foreign leaders, the devastation wrought by U.S. trade wars, and how Trump’s economic policies have failed the very Americans he once rallied. With biting humor and exasperation, they also call out weak Democratic leadership, urging for fiercer resistance in Washington.
[01:20–04:25]
Memorable quote:
“They were nothing but a transactional vote for him. Meanwhile, their hard, hardworking dollars are going to Israel to kill kids and to Argentina because they elected a dipshit.” – Pumps [03:45]
[04:25–05:08]
Memorable quote:
“If you can't help your own citizens, why are you doing it to other people? ... They don't care.” – Kylie [04:54]
[05:08–07:43]
Notable moment:
[08:00–10:15]
Memorable exchange:
“He bankrupts the soybean and the farmer. So now he's going to bail them out because he created the problem. ... But the solution is shortsighted.”
– Kylie [09:45], followed by Pumps: “Once China figures out we can buy.” Kylie: “From other countries, we don't have to fuck with them.” Pumps: “They already have figured it out.” [10:08–10:13]
[10:30–17:34]
Notable quotes:
“Hakeem, we want to cheerlead for you. ... But if you immediately drop your APAC money and get serious and launch a full-blown resistance, you would see your abysmal polling numbers quadruple.” – Pumps [13:55]
“A Democratic leader ... should never give daylight, not an ounce, not even a tiny little ounce of daylight to a racist.” – Pumps [16:53]
“History is not going to judge this kindly, I swear.” – Kylie [17:24]
“We're two years, a year and a half behind them right now, you guys.” – Pumps [06:02]
“The US Dollar is having the worst performance it’s had, I think, since the 70s. And we're going to go the way of Argentina soon.” – Kylie [07:13]
“All of these Trumpian muskonomics ... it's all going to hit and we are going to be in horrific, horrific shape.” – Pumps [08:55]
“I literally, sometimes I think, because their, their response is so impotent. ... Are they for Trump? Because I can't compute it.” – Pumps [16:10]
The hosts lean heavily into sarcasm and exasperation, maintaining a comedic yet urgent feel. They pull no punches—targeting Trump, Biden, MAGA, Democratic leaders, and the media alike. The show combines Southern sass, pop culture references, and sharp policy critique for an engaging and cathartic experience.
This episode dissects the betrayal felt by MAGA farmers, the dangers of libertarian austerity (“muskonomics”), and the costly reality of Trump’s “America First” posturing—ultimately exposing who really pays the price. Jennifer, Pumps, and Kylie call on listeners and Democratic leaders to recognize both the urgency of the moment and the need for genuine, unyielding resistance.