MAGA Finally Cancels Trump After Rising Gas Prices and Insane War, He's Terrified

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Episode: MAGA Finally Cancels Trump After Rising Gas Prices and Insane War, He's Terrified
Hosts: Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Date: March 18, 2026

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Overview

In this episode, Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan deliver their trademark irreverent, deeply informed, and progressive analysis of the current state of MAGA supporters, gas price discontent, war anxieties, and the entrenchment of oligarchs in American politics. Drawing from red-state lived experience, they break down the recent shift (and non-shift) among working-class Trump loyalists, skewer Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts, and sound alarms about billionaire influence—particularly Peter Thiel and the tech-surveillance elite. Beneath the humor and rants exists a sincere concern for American democracy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. MAGA Voter Disillusionment—But Not a Real Breakup

[01:06–04:14]

• Jennifer introduces the segment with a sarcastic check-in on "triple Trumpers," the die-hard working-class voters who supported Trump, hoping his business background would fix government.

• A poignant (and biting) audio clip from a former supporter:

  "You are a worthless pile of..."
  "And you voted for him how many times?"
  "Three times. That was my bad. Apparently, I'm an idiot." ([01:42])

• Jennifer’s analysis underscores the cyclical nature of MAGA loyalty:

  "They will jump right back on it again. ... These people that triple trumped will always run back to that system of voting for them because psychologists have even proven that people that vote conservatively, their brains react more to fear." ([02:04])

• Personal anecdotes from Oklahoma highlight the contradiction of anti-immigrant rhetoric while personally relying on immigrant labor:

  "These people in Oklahoma are acting like there's just, you know, caravans of Latinos running around the United States of America. And that just simply wasn't happening." ([03:16])

• Jennifer warns that even visible disillusionment will likely vanish:

  "If Trump runs the fourth time, she'll quadruple Trump." ([03:55])

2. Republican Identity, Indoctrination, and Trump’s Faux Business Acumen

[04:14–05:20]

• Angie ("Pumps") voices personal connections:

  "I have family members that do this. Jumped off the Trump train when he would not accept defeat...voted for him again so it would feed all of their biases and bigotry." ([04:14])

• Challenges the myth of Trump as a “great businessman”:

  "He bankrupted casinos...He has never been a good businessman. He's still grifting off his supporters, even though he's taking bribes for pardons..." ([04:34])

• Discusses religious indoctrination and entrenched voting habits:

  "Being a Republican, voting Republican is just how you roll. And being a Democrat and voting for a Democrat just sin in so many people's minds." ([04:57])

3. John Roberts, the Supreme Court, and the Rise of Oligarchy

[05:20–10:32]

• Jennifer sharply criticizes Chief Justice John Roberts as the architect of current American instability:

  "John Roberts, the Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court. He's the one that unleashed Citizens United. He's the one that enabled this power grab by billionaires. He's the one that gave Trump immunity." ([05:21])

• Skepticism that Trump will ever face legal accountability:

  "It will never happen because John Roberts gave Donald Trump immunity. Because these Supreme Court justices are oligarchs. They are oligarch enablers...funded and groomed by very powerful wealthy men to get access to the court." ([05:37])

• Sees Roberts as complicit in all aspects of the assault on constitutional governance, serving billionaire interests above the law or nation:

  "You've allowed Donald Trump, who should be imprisoned, to become a billionaire. And you're so stupid, despite the aforementioned Ivy League education..." ([07:18])

• Jennifer admits to receiving death threats for vocally opposing Trump:

  "I get, as you know, death threats on a daily basis for speaking out against Trump. And when Republicans do it, it's even worse." ([08:28])

• Angie ("Pumps") condemns the overturning of precedent by the Supreme Court:

  "John Roberts, do you know what else is really dangerous? Overturning precedent. That is really dangerous…your court is overturning precedent and it is abolishing the rule of law in the United States..." ([09:28])

4. Peter Thiel, Billionaire Control, and Tech-Surveillance State

[10:32–15:27]

• Jennifer identifies Peter Thiel as among the most dangerous men in America, bent on dismantling democracy to consolidate wealth and power:

  "Peter Thiel is one of the most dangerous men in America. And his greed is so on display and he's so flagrant about it." ([10:44])

• Thiel’s efforts to undermine philanthropic pledges, install loyal operatives (such as J.D. Vance), and spread dystopian rhetoric are highlighted:

  "He converts J.D. Vance to Catholic, he installs him as vice president, and now he is telling his other billionaires to stop being so charitable." ([11:31])

• Thiel’s company Palantir is deeply embedded in US governance and military systems:

  "Palantir is so deeply embedded into government systems…to extract Palantir would be like removing a nervous system from a human body." ([13:06])

• Jennifer points out the twisted irony:

  "And MAGA, FYI, Peter Thiel's an immigrant. The people you fear the most." ([14:51])

• Angie amplifies the critique of billionaire indifference and detachment:

  "He has basically said, I don't care about sick people, I don't care about dumb people, I don't care about poor people. ...What are they going to do? Keep their money, hide, and do everything they can to keep...normal constituents, from voting and being active." ([15:27])

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Notable Quotes

• Jennifer Welch:

  "They will break your heart 15 times out of 10. These people that triple trumped will always run back to that system of voting for them..." ([02:13])

• Angie (“Pumps”) Sullivan:

  "Being a Democrat and voting for a Democrat just sin in so many people's minds. And it sounds crazy because it is, but it's reality for these people." ([05:01])

• Jennifer Welch:

  "You've allowed Donald Trump, who should be imprisoned, to become a billionaire. And you're so stupid, despite the aforementioned Ivy League education..." ([07:18])

• Angie:

  "Do you know what else is really dangerous? Overturning precedent. That is really dangerous." ([09:28])

• Jennifer Welch:

  "Peter Thiel and Palantir are two of the most dangerous people on the planet." ([13:21])

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Memorable Moments & Tone

• The hosts employ biting sarcasm with lines like:

  "Why? Yes, why? Yes, you are an idiot." ([01:57]) when responding to a regretful Trump voter—to underscore the cyclical nature of MAGA loyalty.

• They blend personal anecdotes (life in Oklahoma, family members' voting behavior) with political critique, enhancing both relatability and authority on red-state dynamics.
• Comedic flourishes abound, e.g., calling J.D. Vance the "country's biggest political prostitute" ([13:35]) and mocking Thiel's billionaire bunker purchases.

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• 01:06 – Trump supporter disillusionment and the fear-based conservative mindset.
• 04:14 – Familial stories of returning to Trump and critique of political indoctrination.
• 05:20 – Extended critique of John Roberts' role in billionaire ascendance and judicial erosion.
• 10:32 – Deep dive into Peter Thiel’s ambitions, Palantir’s influence, and billionaire culture.
• 15:27 – Angie’s summation of billionaire detachment and the fight over control of democracy.

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Conclusion

This episode showcases Jennifer and Angie at their incisive, unfiltered best—offering both catharsis and clarity for frustrated progressives. Their humor, personal stories, and cutting analysis spotlight the persistence of MAGA ideology, the entrenched power of oligarchs, the role of the courts in enabling both, and the challenge ordinary Americans face in reclaiming democracy from a shadowy, self-interested billionaire class.

Transcript

[A]

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[A]

All right. The triple Trumpers are going through some things, specifically the working class triple Trumpers that came out in full force that have been left over and looked over by both parties for decades. And they voted for this guy because they felt like, oh, he can't be bought. He's rich and he's a businessman and so he'll know how to run the government. And so let's do a little check in on how things are going with the triple Trumpers. Play the clip. Let's take a listen to one more woman who we spoke with.

[C]

If you could say something to President Trump, he was going to hear you right now.

[A]

What would it be?

[C]

You are a worthless pile of. And you voted for him how many times? Three times. That was my bad. Apparently I'm an idiot.

[A]

Why? Yes, why? Yes, you are an idiot. You are. You absolutely are an idiot. But here's what will happen to the woman like that. I don't want the Democrats to start thinking, oh, my God, they're all jumping off the Trump train. They will jump right back on it again. The it is like a blood is thicker than water type thing with these people. They will break your heart 15 times out of 10. These people that triple trumped will always run back to that system of voting for them because psychologists have even proven that people that vote conservatively, their brains react more to fear. These are more fear based People, basically, they're scared. And so they're very easily scared when people are scapegoated, like, oh, my God, these immigrants are going to do all of these things to you and they're going to take your jobs. They're like, oh, I'm terrified. And I know this from personal experience because I living in Oklahoma during the last election, all these people that use immigrant labor to mow their yards, to have their house cleaned, have their house painted, to have repair work done in their house, welcome them in, exploit their labor, pay them a lesser rate than they'd have to pay some lazy, obese American, I would say. So who are you voting for? Well, I'll tell you what. I'm just really worried about the border. So porous. I'm really concerned about the border. And it's just like I live. We. I mean, Oklahoma is one state away from the border. I mean, granted, Texas is a big state, but we have a very big Latino population in Oklahoma. They. These people in Oklahoma are acting like there's just, you know, caravans of Latinos running around the United States of America. And that just simply wasn't happening. I'm not saying we shouldn't have a strong border. We should. I'm not saying we shouldn't have rules for people to access the country in a legal, expeditious manner, to fill employment gaps and labor gaps and provide refuge for those leaving the countries that we destabilized. I think we should have all of those things. But that gal right there, if Trump runs the fourth time, she'll quadruple Trump.

[C]

I'm giggling because I have family members that do this. Jumped off the truck train when he would not accept defeat, knew that he was lying about the big lie, voted for him again. So it would feed all of their biases and bigotry. And I just.

[A]

It.

[C]

Here's the thing, and I know this is common knowledge, but Donald Trump, being a great businessman, he. He bankrupted casinos. Like, you don't even have to go deep in the research files. He has never been a good businessman. He's still grifting off his supporters, even though he's taking bribes for pardons in the whole nine. So it just, I think these people, because I was in the indoctrinated Christian, being a Republican, voting Republican is just how you roll. And being a Democrat and voting for a Democrat just sin in so many people's minds. And it sounds crazy because it is, but it's reality for these people.

[A]

Okay? And then one of the biggest components to the demise of America that we see right now, both culturally, both politically, governmentally, all of the things that, that were kind of stable in America have all been destabilized primarily because one man, and I'm not talking about Donald Trump, I'm talking about John Roberts, the Chief justice of the United States Supreme Court. He's the one that unleashed Citizens United. He's the one that enabled this power grab by billionaires. He's the one that gave Trump immunity. And to everybody that watches, that thinks, oh, I cannot wait for Trump to be tried in a trial and for us all to watch it publicly, it will never happen because John Roberts gave Donald Trump immunity. Because these Supreme Court justices are oligarchs. They are. They are oligarch enablers. They are oligarch ass kissers. They were funded and groomed by very powerful wealthy men to get access to the court. So some of these men want exactly what John Roberts is doing for the wealthy people to rule. And Donald Trump, these people are so fucking stupid because they think they can control him. And he is a loud mouth, dangerous demagogue. Pop this up. According to NBC News, Chief Justice John Roberts says that personal criticism of judges is dangerous and urged prominent figures to dial down the rhetoric days after President Trump launched his most recent broadside against the Supreme Court. And John Roberts is just like, this just has to stop. And this is just where I'm like, okay, you saw January 6th, John Roberts. You saw it. Everybody in the world saw it. We know what this man is capable of with his rhetoric. You continue to give him win after win after win after win in the shadow docket because you service billionaires, you went to all of these Ivy League schools and you ascended to the top of the Supreme Court to service billionaires. Not your country, not the Constitution, but billionaires. You've allowed Donald Trump, who should be imprisoned, to become a billionaire. And you're so stupid, despite the aforementioned Ivy League education, that you think the guy that is like, we're going to the Capitol, Mike Pence isn't doing his job? You think that guy's going to tone down the rhetoric when you service your oligarch base by giving them a win on tariffs that kind of up their business? You think Trump's going to keep his mouth shut because he's got all these nut jobs making up and writing Amazon books, making this whole tariff policy up? I don't think that was a win for the Democrats. I know your tariff thing was a win for your people, for the billionaires whose ass you kick. The billionaires that groomed you, the billionaires that you service before you service the United States of America. And all of you think this guy is going to be loyal to your cause. And this is the problem. This is why a lot of people in the Republican Party do not speak out against Trump because his base are rabid sociopaths. I mean, pumps. I get, as you know, death threats on a daily basis for speaking out against Trump. And when Republicans do it, it's even worse. So, I mean, John Roberts, that is just so par for the course for people who support and worship rich people over the citizenry, over the sovereignty of the United States, over the Constitution, over the rule of law. That just is beyond the pale for me.

[C]

No, I agree. And I look at that comment and I'm like, John Roberts, do you know what else is really dangerous? Overturning precedent. That is really dangerous. Lower courts, making good decisions and following the law that was set by the Supreme Court. And because you are such an absolute disgrace to law and order, your court is overturning precedent and it is abolishing the rule of law in the United States and the dependable nature of the laws and application and interpretation of the laws. And that is on you. And that is every bit as dangerous as rhetoric. But you calculated and you chose it, so this is what you got. And I am anti threats and all that, but I'm just saying he did, did not play the tape through in this situation. And overturning the law and making a mockery of the United States justice system falls on him.

[A]

Well, he's going to continue to do it. That's why groomed him. They groomed him to overturn precedent. They groomed him to rig the system. He has been groomed by billionaires that are seeing a much longer thing than the three years we have left with Trump. I mean, these people have been grooming long before Trump came down and they will groom long after. There will be more precedent overturned and John Roberts will enthusiastically do it and he will get an attaboy from his oligarch donors. And speaking of oligarchs, Peter Till is one of the most dangerous men in America. And his greed is so on display and he's so flagrant about it. And I think he's so mentally ill or like just a full blown psychopath of the highest order. So he's this gay man raised evangelical immigrant, comes over here and he has decided he doesn't want the United States to have a democracy anymore. And he doesn't want that to happen through the ballot Box because he knows he can't. So he converts J.D. vance to Catholic, he installs him as vice president, and now he is telling his other billionaires to stop being so charitable. Pop this up. Peter Thiel is actively convincing billionaires to abandon the giving Pledge. And it may be working. So he's already trying to consolidate a group of heartless, unempathetic, no compassion whatsoever billionaires. Which is not that hard to get there because to be a billionaire you have to exploit human labor so much. But teal is also infuriating the Vatican. Pop this up. Maga billionaire Peter Thiel infuriates Vatican by claiming Antichrist is coming and will impose dystopian one world government. The call is coming from inside the house. The Antichrist whom he is warning about is in fact Peter Thiel. Peter Thiel is the guy that he is warning about. Peter Thiel, if you go back and look, he wants a technocrat, he wants a monarchy, but the king is a billionaire. Like him, Peter Thiel is the swamp via Palantir. Palantir is so deeply embedded into government systems right now, and it has taken over and superseded previous government systems in the federal government and in the United States military that in order, if we ever get power again, to extract Palantir would be like removing a nervous system from a human body. Peter Thiel and Palantir are two of the most dangerous people on the planet. Peter Thiel has no use for Donald Trump except for him being an old aging dementia duck that then he can trot out his little queer eyed. Recently converted to Catholicism, smokey eye sociopath JD Vance, who is this country's biggest political prostitute. He believes in nothing. A complete nihilist to his core. And Peter Thiel and all of his rich friends, guess what they're doing right now. Pop this up. Palantir CEO. This is that coked up guy Alex Karp has bought a 46 million dollar. 46 million dollar listener. Imagine this is just a side hustle. Property billionaire bunker in Indian Creek, Miami, which has its own private police and guarded bridge. He's now neighbors with Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg and Jared Kushner. Total surveillance for you, total security for them. These people have annihilated our privacy. And I just want to remind everybody this surveillance didn't just happen under Trump in order to have a real autopsy. This happened after 911 and the Bush administration with a continuation from the Obama administration with an acceleration via the Trump administration with a continuation from Biden with now for pour gasoline on it and Accelerate the erosion of privacy from the American government surveilling its citizens is on steroids right now. And the worst people imaginable. Peter Thiel, who is lecturing people about the Antichrist, is the guy who has all your information and maga, FYI, he's an immigrant. The people you fear the most.

[C]

Well, rapture preppers and the Antichrist coming. I've been hearing about that my entire life. But when I look at Peter Thiel, I think, number one, he does not value humans. He values money. He has basically said, I don't care about sick people, I don't care about dumb people, I don't care about poor people. As long as the rich have all the money, we're all good. And it's just, it's stunning how deeply embedded this group of people is. But it goes back to they can't hear from the electorate, they don't value the United States citizens vote, so they'll run off into a bunker, they'll release all kinds of hell and fury, but they'll go hide because they know how bad they suck. And eating the rich kind of thing like people bitching about billionaires is higher than I've ever remember hearing about it. And so what are they going to do? Keep their money, hide, and do everything they can to keep people, normal constituents, from voting and being active.

[A]

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