MAGA Influencers Spew Horrific Attack at ICE Victim Alex Pretti as Dem Leader Surrenders

Summary

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Summary of IHIP News – “MAGA Influencers Spew Horrific Attack at ICE Victim Alex Pretti as Dem Leader Surrenders”

Podcast: IHIP News
Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Episode Date: January 27, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this emotionally charged and sharply critical episode, Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan take on the right-wing reaction to the killing of Alex Pretti, a victim of ICE violence. The podcast exposes the victim-blaming rhetoric from conservative influencers, notably Megyn Kelly, while drawing parallels to broader issues of systemic injustice, propaganda, and the failures of Democratic leadership. The discussion is candid, sometimes humorous, and always pointed, offering both heartfelt outrage and reflection on the moral crises at play.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. MAGA Women and Victim-Blaming Rhetoric

• [00:06–02:47]
  Jennifer and Angie open by criticizing “White MAGA women,” focusing on Megyn Kelly’s dismissive commentary on Alex Pretti’s death.
  • Megyn Kelly’s quote (00:43):

    “I know I'm supposed to feel sorry for Alex Preddy, but I don't. I don't. Do you know why I wasn't shot by Border Patrol this weekend? Because I kept my ass inside and out of their operations.”

  • Host’s Response (01:40):
    Jenn points out the hypocrisy given MAGA’s support of the January 6th insurrection and their chronic moral duplicity.

    “This craven lack of empathy and lack of humanity is something in which these types of groups take immense pride... And then when it's somebody who opposes them politically, they're fine with them getting executed.”

2. Victim Shaming and Religious Indoctrination

• [02:54–04:00]
  Guest 1 shares a personal perspective about growing up with evangelical values, connecting conservative victim-blaming to religious upbringing.
  • Memorable Quote (02:54):

    “Victim shaming and how I was raised go hand in hand... She's victim blaming. He's exercising a constitutional right and she's victim blaming.”

3. Parallels to International Human Rights Abuses and Propaganda

• [04:00–10:50]
  • [04:00] The hosts parallel ICE’s tactics and American propaganda to Israel’s military response to Palestinians, emphasizing media complicity and moral collapse worldwide.
  • Criticism of the United States Holocaust Museum’s stance against analogies to current fascist trends and marginalized groups’ experiences.
    • Host’s Reflection (08:07):

      “Only Anne Frank and Jewish people can learn the lesson of this, but other marginalized groups that are singled out can't.”

  • The discussion expands to the weaponization of antisemitism and Islamophobia:

    “There is an acceptability of Islamophobia that's just cooked in.” (10:50)

4. Amplifying Moral Clarity vs. Political Cowardice

• [13:18–16:21]
  Zoran Mamdani’s direct and humane response to ICE violence (played by the hosts) is contrasted with Democratic leaders’ hedging.

  • Notable Quote from Zoran Mamdani (13:18):

    “It is horrific what we have seen there... that's why I described that as a murder. Because there's no other way to watch that video and come to a different conclusion... these ICE raids, they are cruel, they are inhumane, they do nothing to serve the interests of public safety.”

• Democratic Messaging Critique (14:10–16:21):

  • The hosts mock Schumer’s focus on “restrain, reform, restrict ICE,” labeling it a hollow alliteration.

    “This is the most impotent leadership in the most dangerous time of my lifetime.” (15:06)

  • Guest 1 (16:21):

    “If you cannot with your own eyes, look and see a man was shot... and come away with restrain... that shouldn't be a thing. It should be an immediate: He was murdered.”

5. The Systemic Problem with ICE and Democratic Evasion

• [17:11–19:23]
  The hosts skewer Democratic leaders for lacking conviction and outsourcing their moral compass to consultants and polling firms.
  • Host’s Satirical Take (19:23):

    “Conservatives, ICE should kill people. Democrats, ICE should wear body cameras when killing people. That's how people see it. It's that simple.”

  • Critique of the narrative that body cameras or “better training” will solve systemic violence, given the impunity of ICE agents.
  • Recurrent theme: Democrats’ failure to act boldly against ICE, contrasted with the right’s open cruelty.

6. Final Reflections: Minority Rule & The Path Forward

• [19:23–End]
  Jennifer and Angie remind listeners that the hard-right’s position is a minority viewpoint and stress the need for active pressure on Democratic leadership to oppose ICE outright and reclaim a moral stance.
  • Host:

    “ICE is a gestapo murdering citizens covering up for murders and it needs to be shut down.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Megyn Kelly on Alex Pretti ([00:43]):

  “I know I'm supposed to feel sorry for Alex Preddy, but I don't... If I felt strongly enough about something... I would do it peacefully on the sidewalk... interfering is where you go south...”

• Host, on MAGA victim-blaming ([01:40, 02:45]):

  “This coming from a woman that supports a movement that had a violent insurrection on January 6th where cops were beat up and killed.”

• Guest 1 on upbringing ([02:54]):

  “If there's a sexual assault, you blame what was being worn by the female so that you excuse the conduct of the man... So when I first saw this clip, that's where my head went to. She's victim blaming.”

• Host, connecting ICE and IDF ([04:00]):

  “It also makes me think about the way the IDF has treated Palestinians for years, and that ICE is taking a play out of their playbook.”

• On the Holocaust Museum’s stance ([08:07]):

  “Only Anne Frank and Jewish people can learn the lesson of this, but other marginalized groups that are singled out can't.”

• Zoran Mamdani clip ([13:18]):

  “It is horrific what we have seen there... that's why I described that as a murder.”

• On Democratic fecklessness ([15:06]):

  “This is the most impotent leadership in the most dangerous time of my lifetime.”

• Host’s summary of Democratic position ([19:23]):

  “Conservatives, ICE should kill people. Democrats, ICE should wear body cameras when killing people. That's how people see it.”

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:06–02:47: Critique of MAGA women and reading Megyn Kelly’s commentary.
• 02:54–04:00: Guest 1 connects religious upbringing to victim-blaming and right-wing rhetoric.
• 04:00–10:50: Discussion expands to the propaganda, international comparisons, Holocaust Museum controversy, and rising antisemitism/Islamophobia.
• 13:18–14:10: Zoran Mamdani’s clear condemnation of ICE violence played and discussed.
• 14:10–16:21: Critique of Democratic leadership’s response.
• 17:11–19:23: Further disgust at Democrats’ focus group approach; succinct summary of party positions.
• 19:23–End: Final thoughts: the minority control of discourse, how to apply political pressure, and need for abolition of ICE.

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

IHIP News brings a blend of biting sarcasm and blunt outrage, coupled with personal reflections. The hosts refuse to mince words about what they see as moral failures of both the MAGA right and the Democratic establishment. They are unapologetically progressive, emotionally raw, and challenge listeners to demand greater moral clarity, especially in the face of adversity and minority rule. The repeated calls for courage, clarity, and action are as urgent as the topics themselves.

Transcript

[Host]

White MAGA women are truly some of the worst people that this movement has produced because they weaponize their gender to make all of the misogyny and the psychopathy feel like it has some sort of. Sort of maternal blessing to it. And here's Megan Kelly, and this is her opinion about seeing a person beat up like a gang. Alex Preddy was beat up by eight people and then shot nine times. And this is what she has to say about it.

[Megyn Kelly]

I know I'm supposed to feel sorry for Alex Preddy, but I don't. I don't. Do you know why I wasn't shot by Border Patrol this weekend? Because I kept my ass inside and out of their operations.

[Host]

It.

[Megyn Kelly]

It's very simple. If I felt strongly enough about something the government was doing that I would go out and protest, I would do it peacefully on the sidewalk without interfering via a whistle, via shouting, via my body, via any other way. I would make my objections known by standing there without interfering. Because interfering is where you go south. And laying hands a police officer trying to or. Or border patrol officer or ICE officer trying to conduct a law enforcement operation is a felony. And now you are going to get arrested. And if you do anything, anything that resembles resisting, you're in serious trouble. Does he?

[Host]

Okay. This coming from a woman that supports a movement that had a violent insurrection on January 6th where cops were beat up and killed. This coming from a woman that whitewashes as a lot of white evangelic do the age of consent and somehow making the age of these girls that Jeffrey Epstein raped at 14 or 15 some sort of loophole that they weren't technically children. She has millions and millions of views, but I can tell you from personal experience, this type of I don't care because it didn't affect me. And my family is ubiquitous in white evangelical circles. This craven lack of empathy and lack of humanity is something in which these types of groups take immense pride. They take pride in having this type of position. The moral duplicity of we support the police. We support Jesus, we support America.

[Guest 1]

Rah, rah.

[Host]

And then when it's somebody who opposes them politically, they're fine with them getting executed.

[Guest 1]

Well, and here's the thing. I grew up in that. That's how I was raised. You are better than you have moral superiority. But I've also thought a lot about how I was indoctrinated religiously. It goes with victim shaming. Victim shaming and how I was raised go hand in hand. If there's a sexual assault, you blame what was being worn by the female so that you excuse the conduct of the man. Somehow she brought this on herself. So when first saw this clip, that's where my head went to. She's victim blaming. He's exercising a constitutional right and she's victim blaming. Because the way I was raised, it's okay to do that because you would never be in that situation. And she says that if I were doing that, I would do it differently, I would do it better because I am better. So it just the victim shaming and blaming that we're seeing through all of this on the maga, right, makes me think of how I was raised with evangelical Christianity.

[Host]

And it also makes me think about the way the IDF has treated Palestinians for years and that ICE is taking a play out of their playbook. They kill Palestinians and then say they were terrorists. Nobody really questions it. Western media certainly doesn't question it. And that's what's happening here with ice. They are killing innocent people and all of us. I mean, at least the people I've surrounded myself with. Alex Preddy, that's what you want your sons to be. He saw a woman get double shoved to the ground and he went to assist her. And all of these men who struggle with their own masculinity and self confidence, inner child issues, emotionally stunted, probably deeply religiously abused, abused and live in a lot of shame. That kind of man they, they cannot relate to and so they want to beat it down. And it's utterly unsurprising once you open up your eyes to this, how there seems to be this network of propaganda and bad men aligning. When you think of Benjamin Netanyahu and what he says about innocent Palestinians and what ICE is saying about innocent Americans and the weaponization of anti Semitism in this country has been escalating at such a rate. And you have these far right Zionist groups that are weaponizing anti Semitism as a means to erode civil liberties. So they found themselves in bed with, with a political movement that really incubates unapologetically antisemitism. And so this was shocking when I saw this. Today is the Holocaust Remembrance Day and the Holocaust. The United States Holocaust Museum tweeted the following. Anne Frank was targeted and murdered solely because she was Jewish leaders making false equivalencies. To hear experience for political purposes is never acceptable. Despite tensions in Minneapolis, exploiting the Holocaust is deeply offensive, especially as anti Semitism surges and Shahi Ben affair. Ephraim says, and I'm sorry, I know I butchered that name. How dare anyone use the memory of the Holocaust to warn against the rise of a fascist regime on the wings of boundless hatred against the other. Talk about inappropriate. So this is just, I guess now, like never again does it mean anything. So this is in response to Tim Walls talking about how many people are Anne Franks right now in the United States. And I had historian Jason Stanley on the podcast yesterday, and he brought a sense of humanity that has haunted me ever since he said it. And his father had to hide from the Nazis in Germany in the 30s, and it haunted him his entire life. And he said, think about all the people that are hiding in the United States right now. So he used his father's experience to humanize other people. And that's the lesson. That's why there is a United States Holocaust museum. That's why on the grounds of Dachau and Auschwitz, we built museums there. And not what they're talking about doing in Gaza, which are real estate developments. So this moral collapse and brokenness, where you have the worst of the worst, aligning from Megyn Kelly to Benjamin Netanyahu, all of these groups of people that somehow think they know best and the way that they're going to get that is to dehumanize and kill people and weaponize the Holocaust. That's what the Holocaust Museum just did. Only Anne Frank and Jewish people can learn the lesson of this, but other marginalized groups that are singled out can't. And I want to also remind, it wasn't just Jewish people that Hitler targeted. He targeted all sorts of people, the bulk of them, of course, being Jewish. But what, what a disgrace for the United States Holocaust Museum when anti Semitism is on the rise. And from what I can see, it's incubating with this group of DEI Nazis within the MAGA regime. And they're always pointing to liberals as being the cause or the problem to this. Because on the left, when you prioritize universal human rights, like, I'm unable to cherry pick that this person's life is more valuable to me than this Palestinian child's life, because it's not to me. Human rights are universal.

[Guest 1]

You know, I think that the, everything that they have done in terms of weaponizing antisemitism, the way people are afraid to speak out in support of Palestinians or call it a genocide, it's been a propaganda campaign calling that anti Semitism because it, it hushes people. People don't want to venture into those spaces because they'll be declared anti Semitic. And so I, like you, was really surprised about this because when I Heard Tim Wall speak, that made me relate more, that made me think the humanity in all of this. People don't want to take their kids to school because they're scared, those kind of things. But I just think it goes to the propaganda that people are so scared to be called anti Semitic that they refuse to even speak out. And I just look at the Israeli government, like Donald Trump's government. The not all Israelis support the in the United States and at home support Benjamin Netanyahu's government. Benjamin Netanyahu's behavior in government to me is what puts anti Semitism on the rise because of how it neglects the human rights of everybody else. And maga, you can live in America and support America and not support maga. So this whole thing kind of took me by surprise. The Holocaust Museum, the way they did this.

[Host]

Sadly, I wish that it would have taken me by surprise. But the weaponization of antisemitism was one of the first, first items on this regime's list. It was one of the first things they did with the shakedown of universities and telling American students that they couldn't protest a war and a genocide. And they saw on the left that people cared about Palestinians and people care that a genocide is happening with our taxpayer dollars. And it's one of the very first things they wanted to shame and square squash. Just like they've completely rewritten the whole BLM movement. Moving along, I just want to remind you that Islamophobia is also on the rise. And a lot of these statements that are made about Arabs. Mehdi Hassan does such a great job on Twitter because you'll see somebody write something about the Muslims are terrorists. Xyz and he always retweets whoever tweets something horrifically Islamophobic and puts replace Muslim with Jewish and reread it because there is an acceptability of Islamophobia that's just cooked in. And there's a reason that the ADL and a lot of far right Zionist groups act like Zoran Mamdani is the worst thing that's ever happened. And it's because he is the proof that their propaganda are is lies. Their propaganda is that all Muslims want jihad and blow up. Etc. That's the propaganda that feeds into Islamophobia. You lump them all together to dehumanize the entire lot of them. Zoron fell prey to so many Islamophobic attacks, even Democrats in the House and Senate did not come to his defense against attacks. And he took them all on connected universal human rights and Won. And I just want to play this clip because to me, in this moment of so many people not having moral clarity and having to word salad answers about ICE and murders and all of this shit, just listen to how simple this is.

[Guest 2]

Just to first take a moment about Minneapolis. It is horrific what we have seen there. And I think that there are too many Americans who are being asked to not believe their own eyes, not believe their own ears, not believe their own realities. And people want to hear the truth. They want to see the truth. And that's why I described that as a murder. Because there's no other way to watch that video and come to a different conclusion. And we know that the fear that so many are living with in Minneapolis, it's a fear that New Yorkers are also living with, a fear of being terrorized. And I will do everything in my power to ensure that we do not see that take place in New York City. And I've also said clearly to the President that these ICE raids, they are cruel, they are inhumane, they do nothing to serve the interests of public safety.

[Host]

I mean, it's just very crystal clear. He calls it a murder. He immediately talks about how cruel and inhumane and unnecessary these ICE raids are. Where if we go to Chuck Schumer right now, let's take a gander at what Chuckles is up to. Put this up. Sahil Kapoor says new Senate Democrats plot strategy as DHS standoff deepens heading into shutdown week. Schumer told Dems the caucus unified and message is restrain reform and restrict ice. And David Siorda says this is classic Dems feed credulous liberal and media acute alliterative slogan to hide the fact the party still won't support doing the actual right thing. In this case shutting down the agency. Some shitty corrupt DC consultant got paid money to come up with this crap. Restrain reform. Restrain strict. And I said this in an earlier episode and I'm going to say it again. All you need to know about how ineffective Hakeem Jeffries and Chuckles are is how they are so not the target of the right wing media ecosystem. Nancy Pelosi. They were committed to hating her because she was effective, because she put up a resistance. Whether you agree with or not, she whipped votes. This is the most impotent leadership in the most dangerous time of my lifetime. I know that there have been other dangerous times in the civil rights movement and I'm not trying to minimize that. I just wasn't born yet. And this leadership and the crowdsourcing of materials instead of morals Instead of listening to, number one, your gut, and then number two, your base is just. It's so devastating to watch the ineptitude, the incompetence, and the spineless nature of Hakeem Jeffries and Chuckles Schumer. Here's the thing.

[Guest 1]

I love an alliteration, too, but if you cannot with your own eyes, look and see a man was shot. I mean, point blank range, nine shots in the back, and come away with restrain, recite like you shouldn't have to. That shouldn't be a thing. It should be an immediate. He was murdered. They're murdering people willy nilly with zero contemplation of the consequences. And I, when I saw Chuck Schumer's tweet, like the day it happened, I just thought, you suck. Why can't you look at that like so many Americans did and say, this man was murdered by ice? He wasn't doing anything wrong. He wasn't, you know, interfering. He was helping a fellow citizen.

[Host]

Renee Good.

[Guest 1]

She was turning her car around. Like, I don't understand why you don't understand that. And maybe, maybe we're the problem. Maybe seeing somebody with a gun to their head, maybe we're, you know, those of us that are watching it are the people that are like, oh, well, that's murder. Maybe you get to D.C. and you have to, you know, both sides.

[Host]

It.

[Guest 1]

You don't need an alliteration to describe murder by a federal agent on video, for God's sakes. That's what I don't understand. I just. I don't get it.

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[Guest 1]

Okay.

[Host]

Instead of sitting down and looking straight into the camera, just like Zoron just did, taking on corporations, taking on billionaires, having a spine, having integrity, having courage to stand up against injustice, and time and time again, this Democratic leadership fails and they want to do this shell game with us. Okay, well, this is going to, you know, this is going to make us look like tough guys. And it's all of this performative political. And they're constantly chasing the moderate voter. And this is how moderates see you, Chuckles. This is how moderates see the ruling class of the Democratic Party. Put this up. Conservatives, ICE should kill people. Democrats, I should wear body cameras when killing people. That's how people see it. It's that simple. It is that simple. When I heard Cory Booker talk about giving them body cams and more training, and then I did a Google search and found out that the shooter, the murderer of Renee Good, was a veteran ICE guy and was the firearms instructor for ice, I thought, well, that's not going to fucking work, Corey. Maybe your staff or your consulting group should have given you that information before you made your TikTok. And then the same thing with the person that murdered Alex Preddy. And furthermore, it's not just that he's murdered. I mean, which is horrible. This administration is calling these people terrorists. And then they are protecting the murders. There's no suspension. There's no investigation. These people tuck and roll out of town immediately and are protected by the federal government committing crimes because this is what they want. They want us to be scared, just like when we started Megyn Kelly. You don't want to get shot. Don't go outside. This isn't land of the free, home of the brave. This is land of the unfree and home of the cowards. That's what MAGA is. These people are hypocrites to their core, morally depraved. They weaponize religion to act like they have the moral high ground. And they're the worst among us. The worst Americans are killing the best. That this country has made and the Megyn Kelly's and the Holocaust museums and all of these people are providing comfort and a permission structure for people to get worse. But as heavy as all of that is I want to remind everyone that this is the minority. This is the minority and this is what they have to do to control the news cycle because it's so wildly unpopular. But I can't change MAGA and I can't change the administration but certainly we should be able to apply pressure to the opposition party and they should be absolutely hated and despised by MAGA and they're not because they're impotent they're hated by their own party because their approval rating is 18% because we're doing reform restrict refrain which is not helpful because what you're saying is we're still going to excuse what happened it should be completely shut down. ICE is a gestapo murdering citizens covering up for murders and it needs to be shut down. All right like subscribe comment we will be back later with more news.