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The America First MAGA party is disintegrating in the face of the warmongering of this administration. And we have Megan Kelly, who I do not like at all. I think she is a radical bigot even. She is criticizing Donald Trump and what's going on in Venezuela.
B
Think this is something he ran on at all? I think he actually ran on the opposite promise that we weren't going to be doing this stuff. I don't think anybody who voted for him was thinking about this when we voted for him.
A
I think it's interesting because Tucker Carlson and Megan Kelly command a huge audience and they are criticizing openly Israel, Venezuela. So it's very interesting to see how all these chips are going to fall.
B
Yeah, I think that the MAGA media ecosystem and some savvy current sitting Republican politicians are seeing the party beyond kings. We know that he is of poor health, not of sound mind, is crazier than a shithouse rat. I mean it's abundantly obvious. Anybody can, anybody can tell that. So of course Megyn Kelly and Tucker Carlson can see that. And so there is an attempt to speak to the base which these people, this America first policy speaks loud and proud to them. And it is how Donald Trump was able to win two different elections because corporate politics skip over so many working class Americans and they see their hardworking taxpayer money. And then you see Venezuela or back in our day Iraq being invaded, back in our parents day Vietnam and the American public does not have a stomach for any more nation building style wars. And so this to me should be the default setting of all Americans. And what we're going to find is that the cult, because he is a lame duck, old as all get out, sick as all get out, demented as all get out, they are already treating him as such and they are separating from him to keep the cult, you know, combined and together. And that America first agenda is their best ace in the hole. It speaks very succinctly and very simply to so many people in the electorate.
A
Another person, MAGA podcaster Andy Friselli, he is huge in the MAGA movement and he was on his show and said this and actually I was surprised somebody would come out this strongly against Donald Trump.
C
Say this right now, and I mean this, okay, Donald Trump, you've lost touch with your base, you've lost touch with reality of what people actually want to see. And the people around you are either not telling you the truth or you're fucking in on it. And if you're not in on it, I would appreciate for you And I to have a discussion so I could inform you about what these people really want. Okay. So this can go on Twitter. And, you know, you could have your people call me and.
A
Kylie.
B
Will you put that back up real fast? I just, before we analyze, there's just a few little details I'd like to review. With pumps, the buffalo with the American flag, the energy drinks, the sports car, the, the. Do you notice, like, he's like a souped up, you know, like heterosexual, like, and then he has pictures of men all behind him. Like, the homosocial nature of this type of bro spear podcasting is so interesting to me. It's just, It's a very interesting note. Nonetheless, let's analyze what the man said. Go ahead. I just, I think he's right. Donald Trump, if you're maga, you did not vote for a foreign war, a foreign invasion. You don't want this. Nobody in America wants this. But I, I guess it's taken them a while to wake up, but Donald Trump bait and switched. Everybody. This is, this is a party of the oligarchs, by the oligarchs, for the oligarchs, of the rich, by the rich, for the rich. Donald Trump used you, and he is continuing to use you. He's still fundraising and he is a lame duck, you know, so I appreciate this podcaster and I appreciate his testosterone and masculinity on full display. And I really personally appreciated that he wanted to have. You and me can have a personal chat about this, what he says to Donald Trump. Donald Trump doesn't give a shit what you think. He doesn't give a shit what the base thinks. He used all of you. He used every single one of you. And now we are in the, you know, competitive, authoritarian era. All of the things that one thing that we have in common with MAGA is I believe we all like. It's a free country.
A
Yeah.
B
You know, you might think, you know, people in the south where we come from, well, well, that guy Chris sure is the light and the loafers, but not my business. It's a free country. That used to be the ultimate vibe. Like, I don't really get it, but it's a free country. And everybody kind of accepted and allowed everybody to have that style of freedom. And it's something that, as we get over this, we need to confront MAGA about. They are so concerned about pronouns and about somebody not being, like, hyper masculine, hyper masculine like that guy was, that they're willing to throw the entire, you know, constitution and get up in everybody's business. It's just that whole world is so weird to me. His set was super weird to me.
A
I didn't even notice that it was all men in the background until you said that.
B
Yeah, it's so homosocial.
A
They all do it. Okay, here's the thing. You have this and I see this over and over and I just talked to a family member about this. They don't hold Donald Trump accountable. He says either Donald Trump is surrounded by people giving bad advice or he's in on it. I had a family member say, I hate Stephen Miller. Everything about Stephen Miller is terrible. But they don't take the next step that Stephen Miller works for Donald Trump. I mean, it seems the the other way around, but ultimately Donald Trump has the power in that situation. But it is so hard for these people that have triple Trump to make Donald Trump accountable for his own choices. And it strikes me as odd that still in the face of all this, he's willing to leave in just a little tiny sphere that maybe Trump's not in on it. It's the people around him.
B
Yeah, I mean that's an interesting component, but I think this must be like a cult thing, you know, because usually this party is the buck stops with me. Leadership begins at the top. I mean, the Republican Party is all about personal accountability and all of that. So the codependency and enabling and providing him a permission structure to me is more of a reveal of. Your family member doesn't want Trump to be revealed for being this morally depraved, duplicitous hypocrite because then that reveals something about them. So there's this denial mechanism that, oh, somebody around him must be doing that and then it get lets them off the hook. But the reality is, the harsh reality is if somebody triple trumped, we can have zero expectation of them for anything. Truly like this is if you voted for this man three times, especially if you are a religious person, all you have proven three times in a row is that you are a world class hypocrite of the highest order, period.
A
No, I completely agree with you. And then one thing that I saw going through all this MAGA sphere was Tucker Carlson made what I thought is a good point and it's not going to make the base happy. Here he is.
D
I suggest that we're going to have a big war soon. The president announced that he is hiking the Pentagon budget From Wall Street, 1 trillion to 1.5 trillion. Just announced that that's the kind of budget that a country that anticipates a global or regional war, has for its military. Obviously we're moving in that direction toward a world war. Sorry. So how do you position yourself for that? Well, you look at a map and you ask, what areas do I want to control? Where are the trade routes? Who's got the resources? And if you were to do that, you would arrive at the most obvious conclusion of all, which is the United States has to have, have a relationship with Russia in order to survive anything like that.
A
He's so pro Russia. I mean, he is. I, I read somewhere that Iran no longer has access to Internet or news, but they're playing Texas. You know, I mean, like, I honestly, I'll be honest, when I saw the budget increasing to $1.5 trillion, my immediate thought was not, oh my God, we're going into a world war, but that, that's the obvious conclusion. And I was just. Absolutely. It's, it's, I just thought, oh, Trump and Hegseth want to play with their toys. But I am terrified that he is right on this. And I know that MAGA just from everything I read and see, they are not interested in anything but becoming a Christian nation, America first. And so I am hopeful that people are starting to wake up. I mean, obviously murdering an innocent American citizen is not going to do it for everybody because they believe propaganda. But when you start talking about he was elected on the President of Peace, he wants the Nobel Peace Prize, and we're moving to war and we're going into these countries, it's really a time when MAG is going to have to take a big look in the mirror.
D
Yeah.
B
I will say that historically Republicans, they could say right now they're not for going to a war, but historically they like it. You saw on Instagram that, oh, we were saviors and we went in and the military did such a badass job, they get very intoxicated by guns and missiles and tanks and air raids and abductions and they get very lured into it and intoxicated in a way that has allowed the Republican Party to do this administration after administration after administration after administration. So they, with their elected electorate, the MAGA base electorate, it's not very hard to dog walk them that we need to blow shit up, we need to be badass, we need to do these things. You saw that guy set, I mean, it looked like, you know, it's super military. Like, you know, it's not that hard to get them there. The, the, the thing with the increase of the federal budget, a couple of things. Number one, maybe it's war number two. More than likely it is the military industrial complex, which now includes all of his tech oligarchs and their AI stuff. And this is really where everything is. If we go to war, oftentimes it's about feeding the military industrial complex, which are oligarchs. And so with the United States, it's not so much about this good versus evil stuff. It's always follow the money. That is the, the, the, the thesis sentence about the United States. Money, money, money. We are a people and a culture that has been raised and indoctrinated to value profits over human beings. That's in our culture, that's in the churches, that's in every part of American individualism. This rugged individualism. You can always get a get out of jail free card if you tell somebody, I'm sorry, I can't do that. I'm working. It's business. Even if it's some huge event and we work harder and get less benefits than any other nation that's as, as rich as we are. And we don't value workers, we don't value life. And so this military budget thing, for me. Yeah. Do I think the Republicans would start a huge war? Yes. I've been, I'm 51 years old. They. Every Republican president does this. But I also think that half a trillion dollars is also for Palantir and SpaceX and all of these contracts for all of these billionaire dipshits that will never be satis. That's what my gut is that it's about. And I trust that instinct more than I do tucker Carlson, who's BFFs with Vladimir Putin and doesn't even try to hide it.
A
No, I agree with you. Feeding the military industrial complex is such a high priority for Republicans. There's just. Here's the thing. We have Trump saying his own morality controls, you know, Trump's international law. You have no fucking morality. I don't put anything past this president. We're killing US Citizens in the street like nothing that comes up. I have got to be shock proof because there's nothing off the table. And just a quick note, we have five Republican senators that came up against Trump and said we need to put more power, we need to control what Donald Trump is doing in Venezuela. And of course, he went off on truth Social. And we did have 17 Republicans in the House cross the aisle to extend, put a resolution on the floor above and over Mike Johnson's head to extend health care subsidies on the aca. So hopefully the worm is starting to turn. We will keep an eye on it. Please continue to watch our channel. Subscribe like review.
Title: MAGA Stars Condemn Trump and Publicly Trash Him
Date: January 11, 2026
Hosts: Jennifer Welch (A), Angie “Pumps” Sullivan (B)
Main Theme:
Jennifer and Angie dive headfirst into the surprising rift within the MAGA movement, as prominent right-wing media figures and influencers—including Megyn Kelly, Tucker Carlson, and notable podcaster Andy Friselli—publicly criticize Donald Trump’s recent foreign policy decisions, specifically regarding military aggression in Venezuela. The hosts break down the implications of this schism, explore “America First” messaging, and examine the broader Republican Party’s historical ties to war, with the usual dose of pointed humor and deeply personal commentary.
Andy Friselli’s Rant:
Visual & Cultural Analysis:
The hosts’ sarcastic, irreverent, and deeply personal style keeps the episode lively. Their southern roots and progressive bent shine through as they couch political critique in vivid anecdotes, playful banter, and pointed, sometimes jaw-dropping, one-liners.
This episode is an unfiltered look at the unraveling of MAGA unity, rising right-wing criticism of Trump, and the persistent grip of militarism and oligarchy on U.S. politics—all delivered with snark, local flavor, and hard-hitting humor.