Political Commentator 1 (3:21)

No, they don't care about that because guns, the gun industrial complex is for profit. The MAGA Christians are incredibly pro gun. They, they've seen little kids get shot in elementary schools and they would rather these kids have generational trauma and do gun drills the same way they do fire drills than actually address a pro life policy. Because say it with me again, everybody. MAGA is an anti family death cult. All roads lead to that thesis sentence. And this is. There's just some corroborating things that if you were a conspiracy theorist that you could jump on board with. So let's just entertain this momentarily. Let's pretend like we're Candace Owens together, class. All right. Trump provided a lower level security than normal for this event. Pop this up. The Washington Post. Breaking news. The Trump administration provided a lower level of security for the White House Correspondents Dinner than it has for other gatherings of high ranking officials, according to officials familiar with the plan. Hm, interesting. Doesn't help the conspiracy theory situation at all. Why? Why would you have a lower level of security? What do you think, Pums?

Political Commentator 2 (4:39)

Well, I have to tell you, the minute this headline came across, my first thought was staged. I mean, like immediate, because he's the titty baby. He doesn't want to go be made fun of that whole thing. And I went back to Butler and we didn't have. We still know nothing about Butler. And now even MAGA is starting to say Butler. But then I thought surely that wouldn't happen in front of all the reporters. And then I thought, no, that'd be the perfect place for it to happen. So I, because all of the questions that I've had from Jump about the Butler, I can't, I can't completely dismiss it. I can say I saw it with my eyes. What happened? This guy came in there. We are getting more information about this guy's manifesto. You know, it was locked down in Butler. So I don't know, I'm. I just don't believe anything this Administration says I just don't.

Political Commentator 1 (5:38)

Yeah, I think extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. But I think this administration has earned any conspiracy theory or any dismantling of any veracity to any of their claims. They have earned it because they are pathological liars. I am not a conspiracy theorist by default setting. I'm just not. But I think that this man and the people surrounding him would do anything and everything in their power and if you look at it collectively, approval ratings in the Iran war, that they've been lying to the public about how successful Iran's counter strike have been. He's in the Epstein files over 1 million times. MAGA influencers, his right wing stands, you know, like Megan Kelly and Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson have jumped ship. So could I jump down for a second? Like, oh my God, he's trying to deflect. And is he so insane about his interior design and architecture projects that he would come up with something like this? Yes, But I also think loose lips sink ships. And I think that we have a, a gun problem in this country and I'm going to put both of these problems to that and a mental health crisis. None of these things MAGA wants to talk about. But I can certainly see how people can dive down these rabbit holes. But my default is show me the evidence. I am an evidence based person. Moving along. Imagine if Jen Psaki, who was the press secretary for Joe Biden said something like this and then there was a at the White House correspondence dinner. Play the clip. Be funny. It'll be entertaining. There will be some shots fired tonight in the road. I mean, I listen, I use language like that all the time. Grab them by the bulls and we're in the trenches taking grenades. And I think that sometimes all of this gun language is such a part of the American culture. You know, like it just, it subconsciously comes out. I don't think she knew that there were going to be shots fired and then she did this. But this is what conspiracy theorists will cling on to. Statement like that. And imagine if a Democratic press secretary had said that. Imagine Candace Owens. Imagine how fantastic that crazy hour would be.

Political Commentator 2 (8:01)

Y it's so funny. I mean, here's the deal. Like you said, they have earned the right that we question everything they do. But I just keep going back to this is a man that hates the press. He hates to be made fun of. He hates when people humiliate him. So I just thought it was weird from jump that he was going to go to the White House correspondence dinner because he's never done It. So.

Political Commentator 1 (8:29)

But he was going to control it all. He, He. He didn't go to the White House correspondence dinner, and Jimmy Kimmel's hosting it.

Political Commentator 2 (8:36)

Right?

Political Commentator 1 (8:36)

That's not what happened. He. He agreed to go to the White House correspondence dinner with a ton of capitulations to him by the White House correspondence dinner. This was something in which he had. They had a. They didn't even have a comed mentalist. I mean, I mean, come on. This is, this isn't something. Him agreeing to go there. He made sure that he was going to be able to walk out and humiliate the press in the. In a big humiliation ritual exercise. That's. That's what I've read led him to do that. And here we have Dana White, his best friend, you know, like the big UFC guy. And he thought the whole thing was, quote, awesome. Play the clip.

Political Commentator 2 (9:17)

Noisy tables getting flipped over, guys running in with guns, and they were screaming, get down. I didn't get down. It was awesome.

Political Commentator 1 (9:26)

I literally took every minute of it in.

Political Commentator 2 (9:28)

And, and it was a pretty, pretty crazy, unique experience.

Political Commentator 1 (9:33)

So you were on the aisle. Okay, so that's just, you know, that's just that typical barstool brocaster bravado. And then here we have Eric Kirk, who's just Niagara Falls snot slinging on her way out of the venue. Play the. She just wants to go home. You haven't been home since your husband was killed. I mean, what is she talking about? She's been on a tour with JD Vance and standing him. You just want to go home. Maybe you should. Maybe that's a great idea. Erica Kirk, maybe you should quit grandstanding around with an anti family death culture.

Political Commentator 2 (10:15)

Yeah. And also, Erica, we are so tired of you being at every event in this administration to the point of go home. Like, you can't turn around in any press conference or announcement or award ceremony that her face is not right there. I mean, I'm so sick of seeing her face. What is she doing?

Political Commentator 1 (10:38)

It's pretty remarkable. This is, this is a testament to what a terrible person Erica Kirk is, I agree. It's pretty remarkable that you see just the most horrific video of her husband getting shot. I mean, just absolutely horrible. And even though I disagree with the Kirks and Turning Point politically on everything, that was very disturbing to see somebody get violently shot like that. And I had empathy for her, for her kids, even though I disagree with them on just about any moral issue there is. They are just completely pro death, pro gun, anti human rights. But I had a Lot of empathy for them. And then in a matter of like, a week after the pyrotechnic funeral and then the ensuing press gaggle that she's been on, you go from having zero having empathy for her to having zero empathy for her. And it's really a testament to her ability to show you what a sociopath she is. In just record time, she has put on a master class in how to be a sociopath and get everybody to. To hate my guts. I've never seen anything like it. Okay, speaking of sociopaths, here is Stephen Miller using his pregnant wife, Katie Miller as a shield as he leaves the ballroom. Pop this up. Here he is grabbing her tit. And of course he has her in front of him, not behind him. So he's like, look, shoot the girl in the pink first. I'm going to get one big titty grab before I. Before I leave.

Political Commentator 2 (12:17)

There is nothing less surprising than all of these alpha males being shielded by women. Shielding themselves with women. That is exactly on.

Political Commentator 1 (12:27)

Did you see the clip pumps of RFK Jr? He's, like, leaving, and they have him. And Cheryl hines is, like, 10ft behind, just, like, trying so bad. Like, hey, wait up. Wait for me. Wait for me. It's so pathetic. Okay, so this is hilarious. So this is why I. I don't fall for a lot of this, like, these conspiracy theories. Do I think that he earned people doubting this? Yes. But everybody online is so soft. Just the softest bunch of snowflake, crybaby titty babies on the planet. Ben Stiller, the actor, post this on Twitter. Get it done. And then Richard Grinnell, the fired queen that drove the Kennedy center into the ground in record time. He writes what the. And the community note was, Ben Stiller was rooting on the Knicks to win their game against the Atlanta Hawks. Okay? For his entire timeline, for hours was tweets about nothing but basketball. This Ben Stiller tweet. Get it done. Everybody online in the maga universe is so narcissistic, and they live in bubble wrap in this echo chamber. They thought that he was talking about the attempted, if that's what it was, assassination on Donald Trump and some members of his cabinet. Let's just. Let's go through their logic here. Ben Stiller, famous, successful actor and comedian, goes on to Twitter with knowledge beforehand that some guy's gonna run into the Washington D.C. hilton and try to kill people in the ballroom. And he tweets proactively. Get it done. And I'm talking. Millions of people jumped on this. Even Rick Grinnell, who was in Trump's inner circle, who still is in Trump's inner circle. That's how insane these people are in the narcissism. I saw Megan McCain go, she tweeted she's lost it. I don't want to hear another word about the ballroom. It's like, oh, okay, Megan, like you do you think everybody on Twitter curates. Oh, Megan McCain doesn't want to hear anybody talk about the ballroom again. Oh, my God. I, I don't want to hear another word about the ballroom. Well, be my guest. But guess what? The Internet is the wild, wild west of. And the minute you say that, everybody's going to pile on. The narcissism engaged in all of this is so compelling to me. It's just, it's wild.

Political Commentator 2 (15:19)

Well, and I think it's really interesting. You see all of these people when a Democrat says something that they perceive as hurtful and their feelings are right slave. It's an immediate meltdown. But just in the most recent interview that Trump did with Nora ODonnell, he's like, you're a disgusting person. Like, where's the. What the. Rick? When the President of the United States calls a woman a disgusting person on national television. And another thing, Rick, I don't give a if you run the kindergarten center or not.

Political Commentator 1 (15:54)

He got fired.

Political Commentator 2 (15:55)

He got fired because none of the stars he wants, he wanted to be, you know, be on the in crowd. None of the people on this administration, starting with Donald Trump, will ever be on the in crowd. It really is harmful to him.

Political Commentator 1 (16:08)

Yeah. And, and the, you have to realize none of these people, it's. Everything is, comes from a position of they are the victims.

Political Commentator 2 (16:16)

Right.

Political Commentator 1 (16:17)

And they are aggrieved and they, they vacillate between weaponizing and shielding what those grievances for whatever they are to have any expectation that they're going up for Nora o' Donnell or anybody else on the planet other than somebody who's inside the cult is a complete fool's errand. These people are incapable of that. Trump has assembled the most idiotic group of bottom feeder loyalists imaginable. That's who's left. That's who remains. That 30%, that 32%. These are the most bottom feeder dipshits this country has to put forward. This is the dip foot forward crowd. All right, moving along here they all are after the shooting in the briefing room because of course, they just couldn't go home and let you know, law enforcement have press conferences. They all have to get out here. And grandstand like they're big swinging dicks. Pop this up. There they all are, except for little Marco, who is not smiling at all. But there they all are, just, you know, grants and giggles. High times. And then we have. Here's Trump's just absolute narcissistic response about the shooting. Play the clip. You think this keeps happening to you? Well, you know, I've studied assassinations, and I must tell you, the most impactful people, the people that do the most, you take a look at the people. Abraham Lincoln, I mean, you go through the people that have gone through this, where they got him. I've heard enough. I've heard enough. Now we know he is a student of assassinations and asylums and an expert on the fictional character Hannibal Lecter. And as he told Nora o', Donnell, he is not a rapist and not a pedophile. And this is our President of the United States. So Rick Grinnell and all those, you know, eating grinners in there in the White House press briefing room. And I'm just going to take it even further. All of the journalists that wanted to go play pat with these people, I'm not like you. I'm not. I'm sorry, I just, I just don't think we should be playing patty cake and normalizing this in any way, shape or form. What do you think, Pumps?

Political Commentator 2 (18:41)

I think this whole thing sucks. I think I, I kind of think you're right to a degree. Or I think if you're going to have the White House correspondence dinner this year, don't invite Trump and stand up there and fight for the First Amendment and the first freedom of the press. That's what I would do.

Political Commentator 1 (18:57)

Yeah, I think so, too. I think that all of this, you know, everybody making these gestures that we want to thank the President for coming here tonight. Shut up. I mean, nobody needs to thank the President for anything. This man is engaged in a hostile coup takeover. He is a criminal that commits crimes every single day. He's shooting American citizens. He started an illegal war. And we're sitting there playing patty cake with a guy that just a month ago vaporized 160, 180 Iranian school girls who writes check after check after check to Benjamin Netanyahu since they can kill little kids. I'm sorry, I just. Call me crazy, but I just, I, I think the person that is the problem here, all roads at all times lead to Trump and then all of these dipshit bottom feeders that surround him. And I just, I just don't think there's any room for any sort of collaboration with these types of fascists. And I think if you look at history, history shows that fascists are able to do a lot of the crimes and cooing that they want to do because of not just the fascists that work with them, but also the fascist collaborators. And I think that's the choice we all have. All right, please like and subscribe to independent media that chose not to go to the White House Correspondents Dinner. And we will be back later with more.

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