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Podcast Host 1
I often see in the comment section people say girls, keep the Epstein files at the top of the news cycle. And I think you know what, our listeners are smart and they are correct. And much to my surprise, we have a strange ally in this plight of ours and one Melania Trump randomly had a press conference yesterday and addressed the Epstein files directly. And before we dive into her video, which is delicious, I want to first paint the picture of Melania and Ghislaine Maxwell's email communications that were dribbled out in one of these Epstein drops. Pop this up sweet pea. Thanks for your message. Actually, plans changed again and I am now on my way back to New York. I leave again on Friday so I still do not think I have time to see you. Sadly. I will try to call though. Keep well G X then we have D. How are you? Nice story about J E in NY Mag. You look great in this picture. I know you are very busy flying all over world. How was Palm Beach? I cannot wait to go down. Give me call when you are back in New York. Have great time. Love Melania. So to me you and I text and send each other emails, right? We've known each other for 25 years. I don't know that our emails are that sweet to one another. Okay, so here is a stunning video of the least popular first lady in the history of the country yesterday.
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Melania Trump (clip)
Play the clip linking me with the disgraceful Jeffrey Epstein. Need to end today. The individuals lying about me are devoid of ethical standards, humility and Respect.
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Podcast Host 1
Pause real quick. Keep it up. It is so rich that she has the ability on some delusional level to call out people that are devoid of integrity and honesty. Yeah, Respect. Respect what? Be best. Okay, go on.
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Melania Trump (clip)
Dear ignorance. But rather I reject their mean spirited attempts to defame my reputation. I never been friends with Epstein. Donald and I were invited to the same parties as Epstein from time to time, since overlapping in social circles is common in New York City.
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Podcast Host 1
Look at the shade going up. It's so weird. Somebody's like, peekaboo. What's Melania doing in there? What's going on? Okay, so here's the craziest thing about this, right? A, a journalist, because you know, Trump is like a psycho dialer. He's on the phone constantly with people. He will not get off the phone. And so there's reporting suggesting that she did not give Donald. Heads up. Put this up, Jack. Jacqueline Almany says just got off a quick phone call with President Trump who said he didn't know anything about FLOTUS's statement prior to her on camera appearance, but that he was in a meeting about the war and couldn't speak further. She didn't know him. He added before hanging up, referring, this is Epstein Pumps.
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Podcast Host 2
First of all, why is he answering the phone while in a war meeting? That's question one.
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Podcast Host 1
Because he's a psycho dialer.
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Podcast Host 2
Because he doesn't give a what's going on with the war. He's more interested in what the reporter wants to know. Here's the thing. Do I believe that she. He didn't know. I kind of find that hard to believe. But the most important, fantastic part is Melania Trump rolling out there and saying all the connections, saying we have to, I mean, it has to end right now. And it's like, okay, Melania, well, now you've put, I mean, you've put a cork in it. We're done. Melania, you created the biggest shitstorm about this. You did this. And here's the deal. Everything that people are saying is backed up by voice recordings of Jeffrey Epstein emails and photos. So shut the up.
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Podcast Host 1
Okay? All right. Moving along, she also called for a public hearing for Epstein survivors leading to the release of this letter. Aaron Parness is reporting breaking Epstein survivors release a statement in response to Melania Trump's address. In part, it says survivors have done their part. Now it's time for those in power to do theirs. So the question is, you know, why? Why did she do this? And I could go either way. If Trump knew or if he didn't know. I don't think there's any question she can't stand the guy. No, I don't think there's any question that she has her own vision for herself and for her own celebrity, much like her husband does. And I think they would each throw the other under the bus in a heartbeat. I mean, I don't think this is like some long love. What's interesting to me is in the Melania documentary, as we had Kylie pirate and watch, they famously say goodbye to each other and each go into their own bedrooms. And I just, I just have to note, could you imagine if Barack and Michelle did a documentary and they both went into separate bedrooms like the, the conservative freak out, like. So is this a traditional marriage? I just, I need to know.
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Podcast Host 2
It's godly, but is it traditional?
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Podcast Host 1
Okay, and just so we're clear, these are the people that Donald Trump and Melania Trump had absolutely no connection to and did not know at all. And. And here we go. Okay, so here's Donald, here's Melania, here's Jeffrey, and here's Ghisain. And we started off this episode with the email exchange between Galain and Melania. Of course, there's all sorts of suggestions that Epstein recruited through various sources, Eastern European women and brought them over for his sex trafficking crime world, and that Melania was one of those people. I don't know if that's true or not, but I just know that's out there. And I, I know after everything you've read in the Epstein files, it's like anything's possible. And here's the deal, I don't really care how they met, but the fact that she's saying she didn't know him tells me 100% she knew him, coupled with the multiple photographs with them together. But this whole situation has people wondering why Melania is choosing to speak up now. Is the war that bad that they need to go back and talk about the pedophilic sex ring that everybody in Trump's cabinet appears to have colluded in? Is that what it is? Put this up. Okay, John. John Favreau says. Okay, so who's about to break the Melania Epstein story? She just tried to get ahead of pumps.
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Podcast Host 2
Great question. That's what I was wondering. Like, why now? Why this? Here's the thing, her coming out there randomly to say she wasn't friends with him, she didn't know, you immediately think something's about to break. Something's about to break. I mean, there's something we're and it's going to be juicy. And then for her to call on Congress for public hearings. I believe that. I think that's true. But the problem resides in her traditional marriage partner. He's the one blocking the Epstein files. That's who could release the Epstein files. She knows he's not going to. She knows he's not going to release the files. She knows this is all just to make her look good. But whatever is coming. But here's the thing. So he started a war to get away from Epstein. The war's going so poorly. We're back to Epstein. Like, when is something going to break on this thing? I mean, it's got to be big. Don't you think it's big?
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Podcast Host 1
I think the Epstein file in and of itself is big. I think, I think that this is the biggest political cover up in global history. And I, you know, I don't know what her motivations are, but I know that every time I try to apply like a normal person's logic to this regime or the people around it, it falls apart because these people are illogical, diabolical machinators that are going for some random global domination or vapid global popularity. The Daily Beast is reporting the following. Pop this up. However, in recordings obtained exclusively by the Daily Beast and published on the eve of the 2024 election, the convicted sex offender was heard bragging about his close friendship with the President and First Lady. And I just know from everything that I've read in Jeffrey Epstein's own writing, I mean, he was really close with Donald and by proxy, Melania, he was spending in Trump 1.0 after he was already a convicted sex offender. I believe it was Thanksgiving with Trump in the White House. And here's continued reporting from the Daily Beast. Epstein even claimed that the first time Trump slept with his now wife was on his plane, dubbed the Lolita Express. In her statement, Melania said she had never been on his plane. And as she said, the lies must stop today. And it's just like you can say that all you want to happen, all the press conferences you want to with robots. You can make Jeff Bezos spend $70 million on a wretched documentary. You can parade around with the Easter Bunny at White, at the White House as your husband calls you a movie star. The facts remain. You guys are in the middle of this child sex ring and he tried to detract from it with Venezuela. And then now we're at this, this horrific war with Iran. And it remains that not only Trump, not only Melania not only Howard Letnick, but all of these oligarchs that are funding fascism are all in the middle of the Epstein files. The very first law firm that bent the knee to Donald Trump, that lead partner Epstein files. It seems to be a feature of people surrounding Trump in Trump 2.0 that they are all featured prominently in the Epstein files. Pumps.
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Podcast Host 2
And obviously based on the correspondence, you know, I want to see you. I'll try to call. Let's get together. It was not what she say. It was just a normal correspondence. It wasn't a normal correspondence is thank you for the flowers. That was so kind of you. That's it. Not trying to meet up, not trying to get calls. Here's the deal. Here's what I think. Melania Trump was buddy buddy with Ghislaine and Jeffrey. She hooked Trump, who was a big millionaire. I am sure she's had buyer's remorse more than once on that deal. Be that as it may, he is the person that has total control over all of the survivors testifying publicly. Release of the files. It reminds me of be best. Like, I don't want Internet bullying. The biggest bully on the Internet is your husband. So like clean your own house, Melania. Nobody, I mean nobody is buying the that you're trying to sell right now.
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Podcast Host 1
And let's just remember that the acting attorney general right now, Todd Blanch, is the guy who went to meet with Galain because it was rumored that the leak to the Wall Street Journal, the letter was Galain sending a signal like, I will, I will screw your presidency up unless you tend to me. So Tod Lanch, Trump's current fixer, the man who got him convicted of 34 felonies, clearly an incompetent lawyer, goes to meet with Ghisain Maxwell. The next thing you know, after this meeting in my I'm deducing here that there was cooperation via Ghislaine Maxwell that gave assurances to Todd Blanch that she was not going to be a threat and the truth was not going to be a threat to his presidency. And then she gets to a cream puff prison where she's parading around with a puppy. And so it's incredibly rich, the condescension that this administration treats its followers and its detractors that we do not see what's going on here. And others are pointing out Michael Wolf's claim about the first Lady. Here's a video.
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Guest or Expert Commentator
A new book was published yesterday in the US and UK called entitled the Rise and Fall of the House of York. It's by a British journalist by the name of Andrew Loney. And it's about the pathetic life of Prince Andrew, but it is also about his connection to Donald Trump, Jeffrey Epstein and Melania Trump. And in fact it contains a passage in which Epstein is quoted and this is from an interview apparently in 2007 where he says that he had sex with Melania a full year before Donald Trump commenced his relationship.
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Podcast Host 1
I mean, so obviously this is a whole group of people surrounding Epstein where they're passing women around. And whether Melania was one of those women or not, I don't know. She's demanding the lie stop today. But here's the thing about Melania and you remember she like she went to the border in Trump 1.0 and she in politics on that global stage, everything you do, every move you make is intentional. And she had that I don't really care, do you jacket on. And she was always swatting at Trump's hand and she didn't. I don't give a about the Christmas when Fox News is like, oh my God, the war on Christmas. And her husband's like, because I'm president, we can say Merry Christmas again. I brought Christmas back. And all the triple Trumpers are like, oh my God, Merry Christmas. And she's like, I don't give a about the Christmas. And and then she did all that story reading that weird ass story reading to children this year out of the Christmas books. It's just on top of these people being so morally depraved, there's no self awareness as to their likability, particularly Melania's. And so is will surprise you. Zero. Here is where Melania's approval is. And so when we think about why is she doing this? Is it to Dick over Donald Trump? Did Donald Trump tell her to do it? Is Michael Wolf, he has all of these tapes. Is he about to release something? Is. I mean I can't help but think with Todd Blanch that there isn't just a miles deep cover up that's criminal at this stage with the acting ag there with Pam Bondi gone. But Melania Trump is wildly unpopular with the American public.
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Podcast Host 3 or Analyst
Play the clip that the American people really don't care for. Melania Trump. Take a look at this. All right, let's take a look at Melania Trump's net favorable ratings. Look at this. The lowest ever. The lowest ever we're talking about now. 12 points underwater. If you go back a little bit more than a year ago, she was three points above water. You go back at this point about this point and term number one for Donald Trump. Look at that. She was 30 points above water. So at this point, historic lows for Melania Trump. These numbers are absolutely awful.
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Podcast Host 1
And I have to say, you know, like, this is wild for a first lady to be that historically low. I couldn't stand George W. Bush, but I didn't have an unfavorable thought about his wife Laura. I just. I didn't. My focus was on him. But the Trumps are so hated, and they want so desperately to be the cool kids. And I think in a. To some extent, she's spiraling because her documentary was an embarrassment, a complete flop, a total failure. You had all of these people trying bots, trying to buy up tickets, empty theaters, immediately goes to streaming. Total, total, total flop. Everybody hates her. I think everybody liked her a little bit more in Trump 1.0 because she was slapping his hand and tell she hated him. So it's like, okay, she hates him, so maybe I don't hate her. But this round where they try to, like, have you seen them awkwardly, like, kiss this? Trump 2.0 is so nauseating, right?
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Podcast Host 2
So nauseating. And, you know, here's the deal. I'm not limiting my optimism about the Epstein investigation to the doj, because that's dead in the water. But, you know, other countries have opened investigations. I'm like, maybe. Maybe they found something. I just. I cannot believe she just woke up on a Thursday and said, I'm gonna go tell everybody to stop talking about Epstein. I didn't know him. Despite all the evidence being out there to the contrary, there is something.
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Podcast Host 1
Think about this. What if, like, you know, at the. Initially. Initially, Melania was a victim of all of this too, right? And then she ends up, like, the longest documented case of, like, Stockholm syndrome. You know, I. It's just. I mean, I can't stand her. She's an adult. She has agency. I. I think she is a horrible first lady. I think she's a horrible person. I genuinely do. I think she's just awful. But anyway, this is wild. We'll probably. Now the Epstein files are back at the top of the new cycle, as they should be. But this administration is relentless in their quest to destroy things, kill people, and erode institutions that keep us safe and keep us free. All right, that's all we have. Like and subscribe. We'll be back later with more tea.
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