Unknown Host 1 (3:15)

You know what? Gay people don't sit around and talk about heterosexual sex.

Unknown Host 2 (3:19)

Correct.

Unknown Host 1 (3:20)

They don't. They're not consumed with it. They don't sit around and how can we end the straights? How can we end the heterosexuals? They don't give a healthy. Heterosexuals don't give a shit. I could care, couldn't care less that people are gay. The only problem I have with the gays are these lesbians that I play pickleball and tennis with. And I'm just going to say they are better athletes. All right, let's move on to the next headline. Kelly Johnson. So Huffington Post reports that the wife of. Of Moses Mike, Kelly Johnson, she runs a counseling business that in its opening documents compares being gay to, among other things, having sex with a family member or animal. Specifically, Onward Christian Counseling Service, 2017 operating agreement states, quote, we believe, and the Bible teaches, that any form of sexual immorality, such as adultery, fornication, homosexuality, bisexual conduct, bestiality, incest, pornography, or any attempt to change one's sex or disagreement with one's biological sex is sinful and offensive to God. I mean, these people sound like they're a blast. I mean, can you be. They're just wound up like a cheap clock. It is not normal. Nothing about these two is normal. They are the biggest freak shows in D.C. because they are religious fanatics that are consumed with gay people having gay sex.

Unknown Host 2 (4:48)

Well, and this was the mission statement that apparently she put up on her counseling service, this website. Like, our mission statement is this. Like, she's obsessed. She's every bit as obsessed, I was.

Unknown Host 1 (4:59)

Gonna say, I would think. And this is just my own, I think she's not getting laid.

Unknown Host 2 (5:05)

Or I think she might. I mean, in my opinion, if you're talking about this much or this worried about it, sounds to me like she might be a lesbian.

Unknown Host 1 (5:11)

You think she's a big old Leslie each other's beards, right? I either think she's not getting it because Moses Mike is busy on Grindr, or like you said, she herself and there's always this talk in liberal spaces that we can't talk about people that are allegedly in the closet. And I, this is where I disagree with this. I think that if the governor of Texas, who is in a wheelchair, tries to take away rights and recognition to other handicapped people and he gets called Governor hot wheels fucking good for that. This is fuck you politics. I think if there's a bunch of closeted homosexual obsessed right wings Christian fanatics in Congress are in the White House and there's a lot of psychological circumstantial evidence that seems to point to a Freudian case that these people or closet cases themselves, tough titties, they're getting called out because let me tell you who the bravest people in this country are. The bravest people in this country are out of the closet homosexuals, especially those from red states. Because it is brutal here. These churches and these families, family, the parents of gay people shame their own kids. So they are the bravest people in the United States of America. Next up, Moses Mike Johnson was appointed to, to be dean of a Christian law school. And the Christian law school wanted to teach biblical law, biblical worldview. Okay? So this is the Paul Pressler School of Law and it would unashamedly embrace a biblical world view. And so Moses Mike again, he is appointed to be the dean of this quack, quack job, nut job law school.

Unknown Host 2 (7:07)

I'm no great legal scholar, but I went to law school. And there's no way that the Bible and the law can combine to educate somebody on how to operate in court. District courts, appellate courts, like they're not compatible. So this, obviously the law school never came to fruition because A, it was stupid and it couldn't get accreditation, and B, there was alleged financial impropriety, which as a shock to no one, but this thing is nuts from the word go.

Unknown Host 1 (7:40)

Let me ask you this, Pim. She grew up, he grew up going to Sunday school. I didn't. But doesn't the Bible like give you instructions on how to treat your slave? Eye for an eye tells you to. Yeah, like there's incest, have sex with.

Unknown Host 2 (7:53)

Your dad, all that stuff.

Unknown Host 1 (7:54)

Yeah. Also, hey, try to kill your kid to prove to me how much you love me. Jk Just kidding. I mean it's kind of, it's really demented. And for me, I know that there's gonna be a lot of people in the comment section, but there's a lot of parts of the Bible, if you're a completely secular person that weren't, wasn't indoctrinated into it the way a Christian light person would view, you know, Scientology or being a Mormon is the same way I view a lot of the passages in the Bible. I think, like, this is really demented, sick stuff. But speaking of demented and sick stuff, let's move on to Moses Mike. So Pressler, the the who was the namesake of this law school, was sued in a civil case that has since grown to include allegations of abuse by multiple men who say he sexually assaulted them, some when they were children. The matter, which is still pending in court, helped spark a broader reckoning by the Southern Baptist Convention over its handling of claims of sexual abuse. And this comes as no surprise to me, because being raised by an atheist, my mother always told me the bigger the Christian, the bigger the secrets. And this has always proven to be true. In my entire life living in the Bible Belt, the loudest Christians that I ever heard, the people who recruited me the most to be in their church were the most screwed up people that I knew. They had the most screwed up marriages, they have the most screwed up family units. And I'm not saying we're perfect over here, the Welches, I mean, I've had my fair share of problems, but I don't have this type of moral duplicity. And this is at the core of this evangelical stuff. They try to suppress sexual urges, which is insane because your body is meant from an evolutionary standpoint, standpoint to perpetuate the species. So this thing that religion, especially as evangelical Christians and far right Catholics try to do is suppress this Christianity, I mean, suppress this sexuality. And then all of this comes out of it. Look at the priests, look at the Southern Baptist, look at whack job Moses, Mike and his wife that's never getting laid either by him or by the lesbian of her dream. I mean, it just produces a lot of problems.

Unknown Host 2 (10:12)

Well, it does. And what's so interesting to me, we have always sat on this show and said, the more you're screaming about gay and all that. So you have Mike Johnson and his wife. They're anti gay, anti gay, anti gay. Allegations that he's on Grindr. Anti gay, anti gay studies under a pedophile. Apparently. By all accounts, this Paul Pressler was Mike Johnson's mentor. I mean, he was in deep with him. He studied under him, he believed in him. Turns out he a pedophile. All of this is right on brand for everything we've ever said on this podcast, pumps.

Unknown Host 1 (10:50)

And you know, he's living with right now, Moses Mike is living with this evangelical grifter I think we have to stop calling them evangelical preachers and start calling them evangelical grifters. He is living with an evangelical grifter in Washington D.C. who is rumored to be a closet case. And then the condo that they live in together is owned by this man who is on his fourth marriage who, whose ex wife claims that, and this is during the divorce proceedings that he made her watch gay porn, made her watch videos of him having gay sex with men. And it's this huge divorce in Nashville. And so this is who Moses Mike hangs out with. This is who, the guy who wants to talk about Jesus and Donald Trump being, you know, some sort of prophet and God's vessel. This is the speaker of the House of the United States of America. And I vacillate all the time, like, what should we be sounding the alarm about more right now? Should we be sounding the alarm more about Elon Musk being a full blown Nazi or that the speaker of the House that all of the Republicans voted for is the biggest whack job in Washington D.C. i mean, in my opinion, Moses Mike Johnson is the biggest freak show in the United States of America. Marjorie Taylor Greene, Nancy Mace, Lauren Boebert and all the, and the Doge Micropenis Committee, none of them come close to touching Moses Mike Johnson and how crazy this man is.

Unknown Host 2 (12:30)

He's totally ill prepared to be a leader because he has been taught all this crap his whole life.

Unknown Host 1 (12:37)

He's a fanatic.

Unknown Host 2 (12:38)

He's a fanatic. He does, he has no empathy, he has no ability to think about poor people. And I just think it's interesting. He says he's this big Christian, but he only abides by the cruel parts of the Bible. He doesn't abide by a million Americans.

Unknown Host 1 (12:53)

Is that why Trump's president?

Unknown Host 2 (12:54)

Yeah, I know he's the leader of the, let's go with the cruel parts of the Bible and helping the sick, feeding the poor, we don't care about that. And it is just, I cannot wrap my head around how this man who now, okay, so we have this huge viral sensation on TikTok right after this was this week. Last week he showed up in full blown drag on one of the weekend shows. He's living with the guy. I mean, it's just unbelievable.

Unknown Host 1 (13:19)

We do an episode every day on Moses Mike Johnson and if you start back to he had this adopted black son who now is completely disappeared from his life entirely, whom he monitored porn with. Monitored porn with like, again, that's sick in and of itself. That's so incestuous and weird that your adopted black son and you are monitoring each other's porn use. I think that is, is the one of the creepier things. Then he takes his daughter to some purity ball and puts a wedding ring on her hand saying, your virginity's mine until I pass it on to your husband. His wife is so obsessed with gay sex because clearly she's not getting any or the type that she wants. I think these, these people are an example of millions of Americans under them that believe the exact same thing. And everybody wants to talk about how do we talk to maga. You see Gavin Newsom face planning, embarrassing himself, having Charlie Kirk and all these people on. One of the biggest problems in the United States of America is this Christian base. And as crazy as Mike Johnson is, you know this, there are millions and millions and millions of Americans that believe this exact same shit and that are equally as consumed with demonizing gay people, demonizing trans people. And here's a message that I want to give everybody and this is what's so important right now. The reason the Democrats should never abandon trans rights is very simple. Because the minute we abandon trans rights, then they're going to keep moving the goalposts and eventually it's going to get to where they're coming after everyone. Either everybody is equal or nobody is equal. So Gavin Newsom's face plant and capitulation to the right over trans rights is a very dangerous, dangerous precedent for anybody that truly believes in democracy and truly believes in equal rights, equal protections. It is a very dangerous precedent. And the obsession from MAGA over gay people and trans people to me is a big tell. And I think you got a lot of men and women that are very bi curious and they hate that about themselves because they've been indoctrinated in these whack job churches to think that sex is dirty and that they should feel shame about it. And who gives a if Kelly Johnson and Mike Johnson want to do a slap and tickle? If they want to be swingers, I don't give a shit. But I'm not the religious hypocrite, right?

Unknown Host 2 (15:57)

I don't want to get on and start slamming people and demeaning people and dehumanizing people that have different values and beliefs than I do.

Unknown Host 1 (16:05)

It's dangerous. It's dangerous and it is anti Democratic. And that is why we sit here and defend the rights of everyone. And the, the messaging going on in the Democratic Party right now about, oh, we need to go to the center, it is a very dangerous precedent, when you start capitulating to fascists and you start capitulating to Nazis and you stop defending the rights of the most marginalized people in this country, you are every bit as bad as they are. And if you don't have if Democrats don't have enough of a spine to say we stand up for everybody and we want equal rights under the law for every citizen of the United States, period, with zero nuance in that, if you don't do that, then you're just as bad as these fascists, in my opinion.

Unknown Host 2 (16:55)

Well, and I think it goes to show, like, already under the Trump administration, in 10 states, all red states, they've made laws trying to ban gay marriage.

Unknown Host 1 (17:06)

Yes. They're coming for it.

Unknown Host 2 (17:07)

They're coming.

Unknown Host 1 (17:07)

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