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Foreign. Maga likes to talk ad nauseam about how they are the party of Christian values. And the social media accounts linked to the federal government now post not only Nazi, but they also post stuff like the United States is a Christian nation and all of the women that gender wash and Christian wash in this administration wear their crosses and talk about the Lord. And little Moses Mike Grinder Johnson, the Speaker of the House, who is a genital obsessed, gay obsessed, alleged straight man who will not shut up about how religious he is. He claims that he has conversations with God all the time. God wakes him up in the middle night, says, hey, wake up, little buddy. You're Moses. You're going to be the speaker of the House. He says this stuff on tape, okay? And it goes, trump, Vance and then this guy in line for the presidency. So you would think, you know, common logic would make you think with what we're. We've been indoctrinated to believe about Christians, that they would be really, really concerned about child pedophilia. And so I would also think that considering that Moses, Mike Grinder Johnson and God are Titus ticks, that God would wake him up and nudge him in the middle of night and say, you got to fight for these victims, little guy. You need to man up. Man up like Jesus, buddy. So let's see what Moses Mike Grinder Johnson does when, during the Sunday talk shows is asked about these egregious child rape charges wherein the President of the United States is in the epicenter of it. Play the clip.
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President Trump's name appears throughout the Epstein files, including in many of the new documents released this week. Now, we want to stress appearing in the Epstein files does not amount to or imply criminal wrongdoing. But do you have any outstanding questions, given that, about the relationship between President Trump and Jeffrey Epstein?
C
I do not. I mean, I've spoken to the President about this privately and personally many times, and he's spoken very candidly and openly to the public. And he says the same things privately that he does publicly. He's never had any concern about that. Remember, President Trump was one of the first people that called Epstein out, and he kicked him out of Mar a Lago, off the property because he heard of some of the nefarious things he was engaged in. He's never had any concern about that at all.
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He did at one point call these files a Democratic hoax. But let me ask you about something.
C
Well, what he said specifically was the hoax of the Democrats trying to turn this into a political issue and use it against him. What was wrong?
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Let me ask. All right. Little Moses Mike Grinder Johnson expects us to believe that this is a man, Moses Mike Grinder, who is so sex obsessed, he monitors his son's porn use and likewise, his son monitors his. Moses Mike Grinder Johnson took his daughter, who was like 10 or 11 at the time, to a purity ball, where he did a marital ceremony with her, put a ring on her finger, making her promise to give her virginity to her daddy until her daddy gave it to her future husband. Moses Mike Grinder Johnson is obsessed with sex. His wife has all of these pray the gay away clinics, which is nothing short of psychological torture. And he expects us to believe, when we already have records, years of him being bizarrely consumed with the sex lives of others, that he's saying, there's nothing to see here on this. Of course he knows that Donald Trump is compromised in the Epstein files and that there are girls under oath in these files that point to him being a participant in these sex crimes. And Moses Mike Grinder Johnson doesn't give a shit about it. Because in evangelical Christianity, it's all about forgiveness without accountability. And Moses Mike Grindr Johnson has decided that he wants to go all chips in on the most morally depraved person on the planet. Because we all have to understand that these evangelical Christians see Donald Trump as giving them a permission structure to publicly cave to their worst impulses. The mask is off. He's exposed the whole grift of evangelical Christianity, the cherry picking of moralities, that it's okay for me, but not for the. All of this Christian narcissism is on full display in this cult, to which Moses Mike Grinder Johnson is a. Is just a classic member of the evangelical cult, completely obsessed with grown, consenting men and women being in relationships and having sex with each other, which is none of little Moses Mike Grinder Johnson's business. But he doesn't give a about sex crimes against children. When rich white men do it, he doesn't give a shit. And it's kind of the way that all of these churches treat these sex scandals, by transferring pastors and preachers and, you know, Jesus camp. Church pedos that work in these summer camps transfer them around just like the Catholic Church does. And in order to keep trotting out, to keep the cult all in place, they know that they could have a problem with women. That when women hear about little girls getting raped, that women might have compassion and empathy and righteous anger towards it. So what do they do? They trot out these women like Riley Gaines and what she says here is something only somebody deeply, deeply, deeply a death cult would say. Play the clip.
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Yeah.
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I believe that words like compassion and empathy and inclusion and love, they've been weaponized against us, especially us as women. Now coming up. Okay, that is the most cult insane thing a person can say. But they keep slipping this in. They've got another gal in the whole right wing Christian movement that has said that empathy is toxic. And when you have the. These women that are foot soldiers for Christ that are so concerned, they pretend like they're so concerned about women. Women need to get married early. Women need to have babies earlier. It's the only way to happiness. But Riley Gaines doesn't give a about the female survivors of this child sex ring. And how does she provide cover for that? Don't you tell me to be compassionate. Don't you tell me to be empathetic. Don't you tell me to use critical thinking. And if you do, that's disgraceful and horrible for you to tell me because I'm a woman. It. This is just some insane shit. But believe it or not, this cult of evangelical Christianity is so indoctrinated to not critically think that Riley Gaines right there is giving these depraved people a permission structure to turn away from their best impulses. And that's what's at the gist of this whole Trump regime. Trump activates everybody to turn into their worst impulses. Riley Gaines turns into her worst impulses every single day when she gets on Fox News to gender wash and Christian signal, when she doesn't give a shit about her faith, she doesn't give a shit about children. And she has a daughter. She is the mother of a little girl and she doesn't give a shit about these Epstein victims. And then provides cover to the cult that watches Fox News that free sits there and free bases Fox News all day. Oh, if you're starting to feel like, oh my God, these. This evidence is pretty overwhelming. Seems like Trump was right in the middle of this pedophile ring. Oh, don't have compassion, don't have empathy. That's. They're just weaponizing it. That's just from the devil doing that. This is Iron Age batshit psycho thinking that is reinforced by megachurches nationwide. And I cannot impress upon you all enough my experience living in Oklahoma how morally depraved evangelical Christians are, how entitled they are, how narcissistic they are, what little lack of empathy they have for anybody that isn't in their own little tiny inner circle. And Even there, when you get into their inner circles, you see parents that reject their gay kids, parents that go out and vote against their gay kids interests. And they do all of this with impunity because nobody has the balls to call out the hypocrisy that reigns in middle America in these evangelical circles. And the Democrats must, must address this simmering cult at the epicenter of this movement. Because number one, we are a secular nation. Number two, the Riley Gaines of the world that wants to shun her most compassionate impulses and cave to her worst impulses. These are the worst people in this country and these people are the MAGA cult. These are the people that have no problem whatsoever seeing Liam Ramos, the darling little five year old who was here seeking asylum. He was here legally with his little bunny beanie on. Riley Gaines doesn't want you to feel empathy for him. Not the Jesus she worships. The Jesus she worships would want to cage this child. And then she'll give you a permission structure to not listen to, to your inner voice that something's wrong with this. Pop this up, Kylie. Liam's father is here legally. DHS confirmed it. They still took a five year old child, moved him across the country and left his family to fight their way home. This is what cruelty looks like when it's dressed up as policy. So I want to ask Riley games, is it compassionate? I mean, is it, is it weaponizing? Am I weaponizing compassion to get you to give a shit about this kid? My understanding is that Jesus Christ was against the accumulation of wealth through tables upside down when people were acting like religious nuts like you do every day on Fox News that he would have comforted the Liam Ramos of the world. And yet here you are using your faith to weaponize against people that have this instinct on the inside. Something's not right here. Don't critically think. Don't be compassionate. Don't be empathetic. Be a dick, support a pedophile, support the accumulation of wealth. Be poor, but keep going to church and tithing and tithing and tithing. And then maybe one day you'll be lucky enough for God to bless you. Oh, and all you have to do for forgiveness, just say, oh Jesus, please forgive me. And there's zero accountability, zero growth. That is what this death cult is. All of their policies lead to death. The dismantling of the epa, the dismantling of the fda, the concentration of wealth at the top at the expense of scapegoating the most vulnerable Americans or immigrants in this country. The people that Jesus Christ, the, the character in the Bible would have stood up for the Riley Gaines and this death cult of Christians. Demonize them and then they give a permission structure on Fox News as to how you follow it, how to be the biggest piece of on the planet by Riley Gaines. And FYI, Riley Gaines is the trans obsessed woman that still would have gotten fifth place. She tied a trans woman for fifth place in the swimming. And so if she has her way and trans people are forced into the, you know, closet and into the corner so that she can demonize and belittle and have no empathy or no compassion for anyone, she still would have gotten fifth place. All right, so you have Riley Gaines position is a mainstream MAGA position. It is a mainstream conservative Republican position in the United States right now. Donald Trump still has super high support with Republicans, like in the high 80s, 90%. His support with Republicans within the Republican Party hasn't waned at all. And Riley Gaines is a foot soldier for that, to make sure everybody stays as morally depraved and unchristlike as they possibly can. And then you have other people in this movement that are just batshit crazy. Not that Riley Gaines isn't, but Alex Jones, who's a grifter, conspiracy theorist. Pop this up, Kylie. Alex Jones. A major investigation is underway to determine if reports are true that the current New York City mayor, Zoran Mamdani, is the biological son of Jeffrey Epstein. And my guy, Kevin Kalinsky at Secular Talk says Alex Jones, the same day he says Trump is totally innocent of any wrongdoing in the Epstein files, is now promoting an AI generated image of a young Zoran Mandani with Epstein and pretending it's real. I mean, this is the guy, Alex Jones, who is welcomed into the MAGA movement, who lied and said that parents that lost their little kindergartners and first graders in the Sandy Hook shooting were actors and that their kids really didn't die. And guess what? He's welcome into the MAGA tent. He and Riley Gaines are in lockstep. And so what I'm trying to establish here is they float this stuff as mainstream on Fox. They have no problem with the Alex Jones and the depravity of all of these conspiracy theories because they don't believe in anything. They know Zoron is a threat. They know that Zoron believes in universal human rights, that Zoron is taking a message of affordability that is not beholden to corporations, to the American public, that he took on the billionaire class. And that's a real threat for Them. FDR was a real threat to the Republicans because his policies were so incredibly popular. But the Riley Gaines and Alex Jones and the Jesse Waters, they have to keep you focused on scapegoating people. They have to keep your eye off the ball. And it's never going to be immigrants that were taking your jobs. It's always going to be the oligarchs. The oligarchs are the one, which by the way, Peter Till and Elon Musk are immigrants for people that need that loophole. But they're the ones who are taking all the American jobs and replacing it with AI. And coincidentally, these are the same people that are knee deep in the Epstein files colluding with Vladimir Putin to dismantle democracy. But I mean, don't listen to Riley. You know, Riley Gaines. Don't be empathetic. Don't use critical thinking. Just watch Fox News all the time and I'll still be your 5th place swimmer trophy Christian girl. It's just despicable. It's absolutely despicable to weaponize her faith and weaponize her gender to make people worse. All right? And while all of the Epstein stuff is hitting, the rest of the world is doesn't have this MAGA death cult in it. And so the people are facing consequences. Prince Andrew stripped of his title. Lots of people are resigning left and right because they don't have a MAGA death cult with little foot soldiers like Riley Gaines to justify child pedophilia. And so pop this up, Kylie. BBC News, Slovakia's PM National Security Advisor resigns over Epstein link's Coffeezilla post. Crazy. In the rest of the world, the Epstein files are actually having consequences. But in America, nobody seems to be affected. And it's important to understand why nobody is being affected. Because people like Riley Gaines, Jesse Waters, Moses, Mike Grinder Johnson, Alex Jones give people a permission structure to not believe the truth. They give them a permission structure to not listen to their best impulses and to cave to their worst impulses. And my message to all of you, is you, even you are not safe in this administration. You are not safe. They wanted to kill white evangelical Republican Christian Mike Pence and you forgot about that. And you think that somehow these depraved pedophiles are going to protect you too, and you're going to find out the wrong way. But let me tell you something, Riley Gaines. I'm not petty like you are. I'm fighting for you and I'm fighting for your daughter. Because your short sighted rush to be close to this moral depravity is going to have real life consequences. And when I fight for my kids, I have to fight for other people's kids. Even people that I venamily disagree with. Because your daughter deserves to live in a world that pedophiles and sex traffickers are brought to justice. Even if it's the President of the United States whom you bizarrely worship. All right, that's all we have. Like subscribe, comment. Be back later with more news. Sam.
Episode: Mike Johnson Tries to Cover-Up Trump's Crimes as Anchor Corrects Him
Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Date: February 2, 2026
In this fiery, satirical episode, Jennifer Welch and Angie Sullivan (“Pumps”) dissect the fallout from newly revealed Epstein files implicating Donald Trump, and the ways MAGA-aligned politicians and media personalities try to cover for these scandals. Special attention is placed on House Speaker Mike Johnson's dismissals, anchor pushback during a key interview, and the performative, and often hypocritical, morality of right-wing evangelical figures like Riley Gaines. The duo highlights the larger theme: the deliberate numbing of empathy and critical thinking within the modern Christian conservative movement.
“He claims that he has conversations with God all the time. God wakes him up in the middle night, says, hey, wake up, little buddy. You're Moses. You're going to be the speaker of the House.” (A, 00:27)
“Do you have any outstanding questions…about the relationship between President Trump and Jeffrey Epstein?”
“I do not. I mean, I've spoken to the President about this...He's never had any concern about that.” (C & B, 02:09-02:32)
“Of course he knows that Donald Trump is compromised in the Epstein files…he doesn’t give a shit about it. Because in evangelical Christianity, it’s all about forgiveness without accountability.” (A, 03:27)
“I believe that words like compassion and empathy and inclusion and love, they've been weaponized against us, especially us as women.” (C, 06:25)
“Riley Gaines doesn’t give a shit about the female survivors of this child sex ring. And how does she provide cover for that? Don’t you tell me to be compassionate.” (A, 07:20)
“In the rest of the world, the Epstein files are actually having consequences. But in America, nobody seems to be affected.” (A, 20:15)
On Evangelical hypocrisy:
"This cult of evangelical Christianity is so indoctrinated to not critically think that Riley Gaines right there is giving these depraved people a permission structure to turn away from their best impulses."
(A, 09:13)
On weaponizing religion for cruelty:
“Don’t critically think. Don’t be compassionate. Don’t be empathetic. Be a dick, support a pedophile, support the accumulation of wealth. Be poor, but keep going to church and tithing and tithing and tithing.”
(A, 12:52)
On America’s exceptional lack of consequences:
“In the rest of the world, the Epstein files are actually having consequences. But in America, nobody seems to be affected. And it’s important to understand why…they give people a permission structure to not believe the truth.”
(A, 20:12)
On fighting for future generations—including those she disagrees with:
“I’m fighting for you and I’m fighting for your daughter. Because your short-sighted rush to be close to this moral depravity is going to have real life consequences. And when I fight for my kids, I have to fight for other people’s kids. Even people that I venomously disagree with.”
(A, 21:27)
The episode is an impassioned, irreverent, and darkly comic rant. Jennifer and Angie blend biting satire, damning political critique, and a call for progressive moral clarity—delivering a clarion message for listeners to reject hypocrisy and demand accountability, even from those who claim the highest moral ground.
For those who haven’t listened:
This episode offers a scathing, deeply personal, and often hilarious breakdown of why and how certain conservative leaders and media personalities manipulate faith and gender to cover for serious crimes and enable cruelty—urging ordinary Americans to recognize, resist, and call out these dangerous permission structures.