Jennifer (3:12)

Well, and Trump said straight up Democrats like he is going to hand pick who gets pay under his new structure. But here's my thing. Never in my lifetime did I think that a president of the United States and the speaker of the House would be so excited and able to rub in people's faces hardworking American civil servants that they're not going to get paid. And next week the military won't get paid. But you know who's going to continue to get paid throughout this entire shutdown? Every member of Congress. I think that should change. These need to pay a price, too.

Pumps (3:54)

All right, next up, speaking of Moses pipsqueak, Mike Johnson. All right, he as a side hustle has pray the gay away clinics with his wife, which is a big reveal window into their soul, that they think somebody's sexuality is their business and they think they're better and entitled to change other people's sexuality. It's so toxic, so codependent, so iron age. Well, it'll come as no surprise to you that Brian Tyler Cohen is reporting the following. The Supreme Court appears ready to side with Trump in bringing back gay conversion therapy. This practice involves physically abusing teenagers to try to turn them heterosexual, including with electric shocks and chemically induced nausea. I want everybody to know that this doesn't happen in a vacuum pumps. And I are from Oklahoma and there are multiple Christian schools and people pay money for their kids to go to these Christian schools. All parents have to sign a document saying that they oppose gay marriage. Imagine your kids in kindergarten and that's what the school, that's their moral checklist. And people sign it. They sign it. And then guess what happens. Some of these people have gay kids and they go to these hate academies and they get bullied. And the school doesn't take up for the gay kids. The school takes up for the bullies. And you don't think I'm telling you the truth. This is all over the United States of America, specifically in the Bible belt. These schools are breeding misogyny. These schools are breeding ignorance. These, these schools discourage tolerance. These schools discourage acceptance. They are for profit hate academies. And there are four in Oklahoma that I know of, where they make the parents sign sign that they oppose gay marriage. It is the most enraging thing I have ever heard in my life. I remember the first time I heard it. I was furious. I'm still furious about it to this day. I cannot believe that something like this is allowed and that they operate tax free and they are teaching kids to hate and they are teaching kids to bully, and they are teaching kids to abuse gay kids. It is beyond the pale, especially when you know that Moses, Mike and Lady Graham and little Smokey and Benny Johnson and the list goes on and on and on, act sanctimonious on the airwaves and then sign off and. And log into Grindr and they're eating ass all night. It is beyond the pale, and I will always, always fight hard for every gay person that lives in these horrific red states where their neighbors and their friends sign documents against their existence, their humanity, and their rights. I've been wound up about it for 20 years, and I will continue to be wound up about it until schools are not allowed to do such a ridiculously cruel and hateful and evil thing. Okay, next up, we have brocaster buyer's remorse. So the manosphere influencers who boosted Trump are now cooling on him. And this, of course, is the flagrant podcast. This is Theo Vaughn, Joe Rogan, I cannot even wrap my head around because I heard everything that Trump said. He said mass deportations now fight the enemy from within. Drummed on about Hannibal Lecter. We talked about Arnold Palmer's cock, We gave microphones, blowjobs. None of this, nothing that he is doing is surprising to me. What is surprising for me is the Republican and Supreme Court acquiescence and capitulation to this. What's surprising to me are industry titans that are bending the knee. What's surprising to me is people like Tim Cook and Jeff Bezos and others that have made so much money in the United States of America not standing up for their consumers. These podcasters fucking knew. They knew, and they were like, oh, Trump's a wild and crazy guy. He likes the weave. And they just allowed this, like, testosterone wave to roll them through this. And at the end of the day, none of this, none of their bro manosphere stuff. There's nothing masculine about it. It is the weakest move on the planet. These guys have platforms of millions of listeners, and they're skilled and gifted. And to think that you shilled for a guy that wants to erode human rights, that wants to erode the first Amendment to which all of these broadcasters have made lots of money. And it just is such a shame that people cannot stand in their conviction. It's probably the most off putting thing to me as a person when people are just like, I'm Switzerland, I'm neutral, I'm a moderate, fuck off. Like fucking believe in something. And I think these broadcasters, you know, they went and played with the devil and now they see, oh fuck, if they're going after Jimmy Kimmel, they're going to come after me at some point too. And I don't want to say everything he wants me to say.

Jennifer (9:37)

I got the impression when I read this article, these guys when Trump was coming around, you know, the weave, which I've completely forgotten about, but they wanted to be able to say whatever they wanted. They wanted to slap their assistance on the ass. They thought that was fine to say the R word and the F word and they were mad about it. And then you see the full circle of the First Amendment violations and they don't like it. And I don't know if it's, did they, were they the neutered Mark Zuckerberg and they just needed to be liberated or did they hate these people too? Did they want immigrants and black people and did they think because they have everything in the world as a white male, that because white men were not failing up as much that it was going to be DEI problems? So I just felt like there was a lot of anger and just a lot of privilege in what they were saying, but they probably wouldn't have changed their mind except that now the First Amendment's coming for them.

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Pumps (12:13)

Well, and the administration used the Avon in a video for Homeland Security. And it's all fun and games until you start seeing ice, you know, zip tying a toddler. And you know, you see these horrific images of these hard working people being, you know, ripped away and their kids are standing there crying and the Steve Miller's like, oh yeah, they're tran to agua and blah blah blah. And you know, Tom Homan's taking, you know, 50k in cash. And then like you motherfuckers, I'm relieved that there is a sense of humanity somewhere that Theophan was like, my dad was an immigrant. Don't use me for this. But then my question to Theo Vaughan is, when you saw the Republican National Conviction Convention and there's a sign that they hold up that says mass deportations. Now in my mind, I knew immediately they were going to round up as many immigrants as they could and ship them out. And that's exactly what they did. And pumps. And I talked about it on the podcast. It wasn't that hard to piece this stuff together. And I think that there is this brokenness and masculinity right now where guys get to the precipice and if you cave to all of your testosterone at one time, then it's not good. Women are a moderating factor in a lot of things. If you look at organizations that have not had women in positions of leadership, you can look at the Catholic Church, look at all the that took place there. Look at the Ohio state wrestling team and all the fuckery that took place there. Look at the Boy Scouts. So women are a great moderating force. And so the liberation of women that started over 100 years ago and the progress that we've made can actually help make men better. But they're struggling. And the real leaders in this manosphere movement are going to be the ones that do not throw one marginalized group under the bus. Not one. And if you hear the flagrant guys or you hear Theo Vaughan or You hear Joe Rogan say something dismissive like, well, I know, but the left is all about all this trans stuff. Just note to yourself that you might not know a trans person. So why the do you care that this is something that if you're picking on the most marginalized people on the planet, that is a bigger reveal about the insecurities of these type of podcasters than it is about the trans people. In my opinion, a real thought leader that is comfortable in his own masculinity would say, I'm not down with you picking on trans people. I don't like it. I don't like bullies. I don't understand it myself. But it's not my job to understand it. It's just my job to be cool with it and not be a prick. And so I think we need to call on these broadcasters to really check themselves and check their masculinity, because they celebrated a villain and they voted for a villain and they endorsed a villain. And now we're seeing, you know, all of this evil shit. And sadly, the most marginalized people are the ones that get hit the hit first on this. And it will. Shit's going to roll uphill and it will eventually catch up with all these guys, but the time is now to speak out and you have to, as you listen to podcasters and you listen to politicians and there's some people flirting with this on the Democratic side right now. If you hear them throw a group of people's rights under the bus, then that means your rights are also on the table at some point, too. None of us are free until all of us are free. And you might not understand everything about the LGBTQ people, but they have the same rights under law and should have the same rights under law. And we should fight for them to have the same rights under the laws because Moses, Mike Johnson and all these other DL demon queens, when they get done reading their Bible, they go out and they do gay all night long. And all you have to do is follow the grinder outages. All right, Pumps, tell them about the book.

Jennifer (16:41)

Okay, here we have the it book of the Fall. Life is the lazy Susan of Shit Sandwich, pinned below in the show notes. It's a great way to support us. And you can also buy it audiobook and Jennifer and I read it.

Pumps (17:05)

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