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The human rights violations by Trump and his government are every single day when it comes to ice. We've seen it with Pete Hegseth. It's everywhere, all the time, but particularly the way they speak about immigrants that come to this country for asylum and other reasons. They are, they demean them and dehumanize them. This has caused the first American Pope to come out against the United States government. And here we have. The church cannot stay silent before injustice toward migrants. You stand with me and I stand with you. That's from the first American pope, Pope Leo. I'm not a huge fan of the Pope, but he does lead the Catholic Church. And you have the white nationalist Christians, the evangelicals, none other than Moses Mike Johnson, who honestly thinks that he is hand chosen by God and God told him he was Moses. And he disagrees with the Pope because he is the leader of protecting and not holding accountable people that dehumanize, marginalize and murder people and treat them so inhumanely, send them to fucking concentration camps. He rubber stamps all of that. So when asked about it, here is his response to the Pope Leo. Pope Leo has cited Matthew 25:35 to critique Donald Trump's mass deportation agenda. How would you respond to Pope Leo in scripture?
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So you want me to give you a theological dissertation? All right, I'll tell you what, I'll post it on my website later today, but let me get a quick summary. Borders and walls are biblical from the Old Testament to the New. God has.
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Why does he have to sit there? First of all, he did give us the dissertation on his website, I will say that. But you know, borders are biblical. It's 2,000 years old. It does not apply. Not everybody believes in this. Document this to make an excuse that a religious doctrine should be part of the government. Isn't that why we had the separation of church and state? Isn't that why the United States was founded, not making religion the government? Isn't that why they left England? Am I crazy?
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It's exactly why they did. And the founders were mainly deists, which is a distinction from Christians. And a lot of them were not this breed of Christian. These were big thinkers, these men. But we have known for a very long time, since the 80s, at least, that there is a desire, a rightward Christian nationalist movement funding the Supreme Court, funding the Republican Party, funding the Heritage foundation, funding the Federalist Society, that they want to dismantle it. So you have to have people, Christian signal in government. And that's what he does. This is not new. We have politicians in Oklahoma that talk ad nauseam about their overt religiosity. The governor of Oklahoma, Kevin Stitt, after he won a second term, got on camera and said, I dedicate every square inch of the state to Jesus Christ. Then he proceeds to hammer down policies that cause human suffering, exacerbate poverty, and exacerbate the marginalization of groups. If you're not in the oil and gas company in Oklahoma, Kevin Stitt will not favor you. He furthermore takes positions to demonize the native population of Oklahoma. So this is not new. Moses Mike Grinder Johnson doing this is not new. What is new for me is seeing a Catholic church stand up against a pedophile ring. So that's growth. That's growth on a global scale, in my opinion. But Moses Mike Grinder Johnson is every Oklahoma politician I've ever heard talk. Long before Trump descended on the escalator and the Republican Party intentionally, intentionally went into churches, used abortion, used gay marriage. Now they've moved on to trans people. They have to keep increasing the hit, the hit, the hit. So it's just. What's crazy is that he's the speaker of the House. That's how their ambitions, how successful their diabolical ambitions of making this country a Christian nationalist regime. His standing there saying that as the speaker of the House shows you how serious Christian nationalists are. Because it's not new.
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Yeah, you're right. Okay, continue on with the video. Couple more things.
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To set up our civil societies and have separate nations. Immigration is not something that's frowned upon in scripture. In fact, it's. It's welcome. We're to. We're going to welcome the sojourner and love our neighbor as ourselves. But what's also important in the Bible is that assimilation is expected and anticipated and proper. When someone comes into your country, comes into your nation, they do not.
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Here's the thing. I just want to jump in to say, I would imagine considering that he's an alleged heterosexual, that he's assimilated into heterosexual society. This man says he believes that homosexuality is a choice. By admitting that you're owning that you had to choose something that wasn't natural to you. So this man speaking about assimilation is on point to me because he's had to assimilate into a heterosexual culture. He's had to assimilate into that whole world. I mean, this Bible thumping from the federal government is more than I can take. I've had to live a brown hypocritical Bible thumpers my entire life. And it's why the Minute my youngest son graduated from high school, I tucked and rolled out of the state. What he's doing and what he's sounding like is in all of the Bible belt states and you cannot even distinguish what a preacher says and what a politician says, right? Because these people are insane. This is Iron age magical thinking. And for those of you that are watching that have a spirituality or have a normal sense of religion, I'm not talking about you. Right wing white Christian nationalism is a cult. These people are cruel. These people actively dehumanize people. These people are all about the accumulation of wealth. Wealth which Jesus was exclusively against. And it always amazes me that as an atheist, every time I talk to some evangelical Christian, how little they know about their faith, how little they know about the teachings of Jesus Christ, it's shocking to me. But it is time and time and time again throughout my 50 years on earth that every time I have a conversation with some wound up nutjob Christian, how little they know about their faith. It's just, it's mind boggling.
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Well, because it's a pick and choose. I want to pick what I want to apply to me and then I'm going to pick what I want to apply to other people. And because I am chosen and better than everybody, I get to do that. I'm entitled to do that. Here's what kills me in this. He sits there and he says, because as we've talked about and you've pointed out so eloquently, Jesus was empathetic. Jesus wanted to help the poor, feed the sick, all the things, or feed the poor, help the sick, sorry, whatever. But he says, you know, we're taught that we need to be welcoming and treat our neighbor right. But, and there's always a bet with these people, but I can justify my actions and I don't have to behave that way. And then I won't bore you with the rest of the video, but he does go on and I'll put it here, but it's long and it's stupid. But basically what Mike Johnson says is in his post when he answers this question in response to the Pope, basically he says, yes, we're supposed to be kind, yes, we're supposed to be welcoming, yes, we're supposed to be treat our neighbor as ourselves. But our government needs to protect us and keep us in, so we have to keep other people out. So it's okay that we treat people like shit and it's okay that we put people in concentration camps because we have to protect us. We're better. We're more important. And that hit home with me because that. How. Is how I was indoctrinated and how for decades of my life I was able to say that problem I don't give a shit about because it doesn't apply to me. I'm, I. I'm better. I'm entitled to have whatever I want. And, and they're not me and they're not Christian, so I don't have to give them that. And so it's a complete lack of empathy, and it's a complete lack of doing what it is. He said that treating somebody as yourself, and it's just. It's gross. And it just really struck a chord with me how easily he can sit there and say, oh, yeah, this is how you're supposed to treat somebody, but you don't have to if they're coming into your country. And our government has to protect our country. I mean, it's just the ability to dehumanize people. I was able to do it because I was indoctrinated to do it. But to see it on this scale, and like you said, not being able to see the difference between a pastor in the House, the Speaker of the House, that's pretty telling that we are in a complete downward spiral led by all these Christian nationalists.
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Yeah. I mean, it. It's so nauseating to me that a politician speaking like that, it's not disqualifying in Europe, somebody who were speaking that overtly, that kind of, you know, this is a religious psychosis that this man has. It's very important that we understand that Moses, Mike Grinder Johnson, is in a state of religious psychosis. For him to say he hears God's voice and God is talking to him. This is not normal. This a crazy person. But what bothers me so much about evangelical Christians is their inability to feel, to let their better impulses break through. It is their default setting is cruelty. Their default setting is I don't care. And I was raised in an atheist home, and my default setting was to care for people, to have empathy for people. My mother and I had a trans hairdresser in the 1980s, and my mother showed this person nothing but kindness and grace. And when I had questions like, what happened there? What's going on, Jennifer? All you need to know is nobody in their right mind would choose this in the middle of the Bible Belt because these people are the meanest, most cruel, judgmental people on the planet. And she was right. My mother, every single time. And I don't know if people on the coast or people abroad understand the cruelty that is woven into this sect, this cult of evangelical, white evangelical Christianity and the mega churches, and there are degrees of it where some of them are just real hateful on the pulpit, but the most insidious ones are this feel good mega church with the coffee shop and the bookstore. And they teach this Christian narcissism where you only care. You're not doing well, you're not doing good enough, you're not worthy, you're not worthy, you're not worthy, you're not worthy. So they beat you down so much that then you're incapable of feeling empathy for anybody else because all you have to focus on is your personal relationship. And so many of my friends fell prey to all of this growing up. You fell prey to it. And the deprogramming and the shame and the horrors that come out of is, it is really, really bad. But I want you all to know that like there are obviously the Joel Olsteen, so it's clear, you know, but there are these feel good pre repackaged Christian churches where on the surface it's like, oh, we're about kindness, but underneath that it's homophobia. It is this purity culture. And the problem with teaching purity culture and this is really important that people understand. For women, you have to teach kids about consent, intimacy, rape and sexual abuse. They need to know about those things in evangelical Christian homes. It's just, you need to be pure for God, you need to be a virgin. So then whenever something happens, they get raped at their church camp, they feel shame. And all of this stuff goes under reported because all of these things have been grotesquely lumped together. Abstinence only keeps women less safe. Not teaching our youth as they get hormones about consent leaves people less safe, particularly women. But that's what this administration wants. And I'm not saying that Moses Mike Grinder Johnson is interested in women. I'm just saying, saying that he made a choice to be interested in women. He chose that, you know, so Moses Mike Grinder Johnson, in taking his daughter to this purity ball, which we've covered before, and only teaching her that this, this, her sexuality is his, and then he gives it to a man he did nothing short of put his daughter in danger and her up for the rest of her life with intimacy issues, sexual shame, and think about that. Think about of all the things you could teach your kid that you're not going to teach them about consent and to embrace their body and how to share it with others in a Consensual way. You're not going to teach them how to see the immigrant in the classroom that might have an accent and go over and befriend them first and make sure everybody's kind to them. A lot of these crazy Christian schools, their number one goal. Number one goal, make parents sign contracts for it. You guys, is only straight marriage, institutionalized homophobia. And it is everywhere. And these people get tax write offs for it. These churches get tax write offs for it. Can you imagine that? That's their number one goal. Make sure we bully and demean gay people. Institution. This is a really fucked up, sadistic cult. And they're so ambitious, right? They have somebody as speaker of the House. That's how ambitious they are with this shit. I mean, it's really scary.
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It is scary. And you're right about all that because I. That's my lived experience, as you well know.
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All right?
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And then just to put an exclamation point on what Jennifer said between the speaker of the House is, is a preacher versus a Christian nationalist preacher. This is Christian nationalist Dale partridge. Regarding immigration. 70 million immigrants flooded in. 61 million of those were non European nations. And hardly any of them assimilated into American culture. They destroyed our nation, literally. We must deport all illegals. We must remigrate millions of people. And if you're not a Christian and you're not fully assimilated, I'm talking language, culture and values. Get out of America. Is that not crazy? It's like white supremacist, but pumps.
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Your family believes that if you went home and you put millions at the dining room table and said, what do you guys think of this? They would say, absolutely. Praise Jesus. God is good.
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That's.
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I mean, this is not happening in a vacuum. This is supported by millions of Americans in middle America. And here's the thing. Middle America, where Pumps and I grew up, it's still very segregated. You have white people that live in cookie cutter neighborhoods with zero culture, zero architecture, zero diversity, zero. And so their culture and their identity becomes being an American, I'm going to wrap myself up in the flag. And then their social life is the church. Both of these things feed tribalism exclusively and feed ethnocentrism exclusively. And when you're born and you're told you're not good enough, you need to curry favor with God. You need to do this. You need all this Christian narcissism. You start feeling so bad about yourself and hurt people. Hurt. So this regime hurting all of these other people is because they have been religiously abused. And it's something that as a country we really have to reconcile. And here's the thing. Europe got kind of the thinkers. They escaped from England. We got all the crazy Christians. All the crazy Christians are here. America has a crazy Christian problem without the crazy Christian problem. We don't have all this fascism period. And we have never done anything about the crazy Christian problem. Crazy Christian problem dates back to the kkk. These people that are supporting Moses, Mike and that preacher that pumps pumps just played this. They don't have any issue with the kkk. Hook them up to true sermon a polygraph. These white Americans that listen to this, they have zero issue with the kkk.
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No, you're spot on. All right. I know that was uplifting. All right, like, like this video and subscribe to our channel. And we'll be back with more news.
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Sam.