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All right, Marjorie Taylor Greene is a nut, there's no question about it. But she's really surprised me with her political strategy. And you might be thinking, Jennifer, you're nuts. And there's a good argument to be made for that. But Marjorie Taylor Greene has started this messaging that MAGA is not America first. Some of these politicians are Israel first. And you have to remember about Marge is she is a full blown anti Semite, Jewish, space lasers, the whole nine. She acts like and she feigns that she's this person that cares about humanitarian crises and she does not. She doesn't give a shit about the humanitarian crisis in Gaza and how I know that is because she doesn't care about humanitarian crises here in the United States. Poor black and brown people that haven't ever been able to get ahead she couldn't give two shits about. But I think she's been hanging out with Steve Bannon a lot. And Steve Bannon is a political strategist, a crazy one, but a good one. And he's been advising her. And she is thinking beyond maga. Biology is going to catch up to kinks any day now. All right? We've all seen him. He's a disaster. And she's positioning herself for higher office, in my opinion. President, I don't know, maybe a senator, maybe something else. But she starts saying shit like this and Pumps has some reporting on what she's saying right now. And there's two ways to look at it. Number one, even have moments of clarity, right? And number two, she's positioning herself for higher office at some point. Pumps.
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Yes. So this is an article that was recently released. And I, I find it interesting because she's bucking her party not only not just on the shutdown, but from Gaza war to Epstein files to the government shutdown. The MAGA aligned congresswoman has grown critical of her fellow Republicans. And then what I think gets to the meat of it, the next part is when the White House discouraged Marjorie Taylor Greene from launching a Senate bid in this Georgia this spring. Green, a longtime loyal ally of President Trump, agreed to back off her state wide ambitions. And then it goes on to talk about her pivot from MAGA over the last six months regarding criticism of Trump regarding Gaza, regarding strikes on Iran, forcing a vote on the Epstein files. And, and she is calling for an extension of the Affordable Care act subsidies. So this whole time I agree with you, like she's crazier than a shithouse rat. But is it because she's ambitious, because we know she doesn't give a shit, like you said about humanitarian issues, but, or is she mad at Trump? I mean I could go either way on that.
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I don't know that she's mad at Trump as much as it surprises me that she has made the calculation or Steve Bannon has advised her to make the calculation, to take an economic populist message and to start beating the drum right now. And you see the MAGA Republicans that are still very much fixated on the cult leader, it's their whole identity, they're all about upholding his ego. And the smart savvier politicians that want to survive in a post MAGA Republican Party are going to start creating daylight and these are the people we need to keep an eye on. And Marge is one of the people when she started all of the, you know, it needs to be America first, not Israel first. Obviously there's a lot a much larger conversation. But here's, here's the problem with that. That messaging is two women from a red state, you guys. For those of you that the Israel, Palestine thing is a major, major issue for you. I hear you and I'm with you on that. And where are, where are our voices going to be when, when this genocide is over? And I'm glad that we're all on the side of being opposed to it. The fact of the matter is millions of Americans don't know where the Palestine is. They don't know where Israel is. They know their pastor says something about Israel. They don't know. And so when these low information voters hear the billions of dollars that we've sent to Israel and Israel has in turn killed families, children's bomb hospitals, etc. And the Israelis have health care, which I support. All people having health care. I support that. And that you don't have health care and your rural hospital was closed down. That messaging is going to get hit really hard. And that's why I always, when we have Democrats on the podcast, I like if they take APAC money, I like to probe them on that to prime them for what's coming. And the fact that a lot of these people are getting outflanked by Marjorie Taylor Greene is a huge problem because Marjorie Taylor Greene's intentions are rooted in anti Semitism. In my opinion, right now, the best way to support America and Americans is to speak out against this authoritarian regime. To speak out boldly and loudly, frequently and often that Donald Trump is dismantling the Constitution. He is an authoritarian surrounded by criminals. He is a criminal. And it needs to be said very plainly. That's the best way to anybody could support America and Americans right now. Likewise, the best way that I can support my Jewish friends is to have moral clarity and to speak out against the war criminal Benjamin Netanyahu and to speak out against the war crimes of the Israeli forces. That's the best way that I can support my Jewish friends right now. Because there's nobody that's a larger promoter of antisemitism right now than the IDF and Benjamin Netanyahu.
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I completely agree because I do not want to be associated with MAGA on any level and I know that the Israeli people feel the same way.
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So Trump, there's some numbers over there that are very alarming.
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Yeah, very alarming. Well, they're Zionists of course, but okay, so Trump has now noticed that March is not towing the company line because in NBC News Melanie Zenona, she has said that Trump has called senior Republicans to ask what's going on with Marjorie. The answer NTG has become delusioned with her party, especially after White House talked her out of Senate bid. I'm not some sort of blind slave to the president. So that this is the person. Remember when she was campaigning for Trump, she had a life size poster picture of him 3d and she would talk about how great he was while bending over an looked like she was cupping his balls. So I do assume this is a shock to his system. And you have Mike Johnson going after her saying, well, she just doesn't really know what she's saying. She doesn't know. So I find it interesting because she is a firebrand and she does get a lot of press going against Dear Leader.
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Well Color me shocked, because this is smart strategy. This is a very. If I had a candidate and I was their political strategist and, God, what known reason. I was a Republican strategist and this is terrible rabbit hole to go down, listener, but hear me out. It would never happen, ever. But let's just say I would tell my candidate the end is near biology and he's underwater on everything. The big tent that he built is completely dismantled. Truth of the matter is he barely won. The country is going to have a major backlash to this. Start showing daylight. Start an economic populist message. Start talking about how this administration hasn't been America first, why the Democrats are not saying, you know, clearly Trump is more Russia first, more Israel first, and more Argentina first. I know why they're not saying Israel because they all take APAC money. But if I was advising anybody on either side, that's what I would start advising. And particularly if Marge were my little project after I sent her to 10 years of inpatient therapy, then I would tell her, you need to start showing daylight between yourself. Toe the line a little bit, but start getting your constituents and start getting the electric, because it's. Everybody's going to turn. The stock market is propped up right now by an AI bubble that is imminent. It's going to pop imminently.
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No, I think you're right. And what surprises me the most is of all the options of Republicans that could have taken this advice, it's Marjorie Taylor Greene. Like that surprises me. But speaking of MAGA rabbit holes, there is a big, huge MAGA war between Candace Owens and Laura Loomer, and I think both are fucking bananas. But the reality is they have tens of millions of people that listen and follow them. And what the. The crux of it is is Candace Owens is saying that before Charlie Kirk's death, he was going to go anti Israel. Laura Loomer, of course, is saying, no way, no how. That's not happening. So they're going at each other's throats. So this is what Laura Loomer is saying about all the other women of maga. And Tucker Carlson, who's also anti Israel in terms of the war in Gaza. Okay. Laura Limer says MTG is now peddling Candace Owens Jew hate conspiracies. Mtg, like Tucker and Candace, want to rip apart evangelical coalitions in the GOP to undermine Trump. Notice Trump doesn't even associate with her anymore. There's a reason. You know what is the craziest part about this post is that Laura Loomer has Trump's ear. That's the fucking craziest thing.
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When I think, here's the deal, here's the deal with these two. Laura Loomer is one of these people who's fixated on maga and when Trump biology catches up with Kinks, the cult is going to dissipate. It already is starting to dissipate by looking at that Twitter exchange right there. Right. And it's already starting. And so you're going to have the people who are jockeying for their position in a post MAGA Republican Party. Laura Loomer. I don't know what's going to happen to her, but here's another branch of this that we have to realize is very real. Is J.D. vance, Stephen Miller. I heard that Ted Cruz wanted to run for president again. Lil Marco is probably going to run. These people are not electable. The cult is not going to unify behind one of these unlikable, unfuckable characters that they're just not going to. And so Stephen Miller knows this and J.D. vance knows this. So that's why they're trying to consolidate power in the executive branch via the courts. SCOTUS has been somewhat cooperative with the shadow court. They're going to have a reckoning when they actually have to go back in session and write up these opinions and we'll see if any of them reverse. But they want. Then when biology catches up with Kinks, it's just handled. It's just passed over. And so it's not. Are we on the edge of an authoritarian takeover? We're right smack dab in the middle of it. So we have to fight a lot of things at one time right now, for those people that are independent progressive libs or leftists, one thing is we have to keep our eye on these people that are post MAGA visionaries within the movement. Make sure we keep Brow beating her. Marjorie Taylor Greene, because she's a nightmare. She's a disaster. She's an insufferable little twat of the highest order. There's no question about it. Laura Loomer, when Trump's gone, I don't know that anybody's going to give her that kind of.
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No, I agree.
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Not. And then we got to keep Brow beating Stephen Miller and little Smokey, little Smoke. Failed drag queen JD Vance. And we need to keep pointing out he's a failed drag queen. We think he's a closet queen. He's a part of the DL demon queen community. Moses Mike Johnson is a part of the DL demon queen community. His Grinder profile is going to come out any minute because one of the through lines that keeps the cult together is this toxic misogyny.
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So yeah, we can sit here and talk policy and stuff, but I think it's helpful to just get out into public spaces that look a lot of these MAGA men are happiest in homo male relationships. I mean all they do is talk about men. All they do is talk about their masculinity. It's pretty gay. And I hang out with a lot of gay men all the time and they don't talk about other men as much as MAGA men talk about men. And so I think that's something on our platforms that we can keep doing. And that's what AOC did in her like TikTok live or Instagram live. These people are dorky DL demon queens. And Laura Loomer is a total insufferable twat. Marjorie Taylor Greene is a total insufferable twat. But she is a little bit more clever than I ever gave her credit for. And I'm shocked as shit about it because she has actually said that she thinks the Democrats seed clouds to manipulate the weather over red states. Like she said she's tweeted something to that extent. Just batshit flu crazy crazy. And she is a full blown anti Semite that does not care about rising anti Semitism at all. And so I just think we have to keep an eye on all of these freaks at all times.
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Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Date: October 12, 2025
In this lively and unapologetically progressive episode, Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan dissect the latest political oddities and power plays on the American right. Their central focus: Marjorie Taylor Greene (MTG)’s surprising divergence from Donald Trump and the MAGA movement. With characteristic wit and bluntness, the hosts examine what’s behind MTG’s sudden criticism of Trump, her ambitions beyond MAGA, the rifts fracturing the far-right, and the intricate, often unhinged, calculations among America’s most notorious right-wing operators.
“Marjorie Taylor Greene has started this messaging that MAGA is not America first. Some of these politicians are Israel first.” (Jennifer, 01:04)
“She is thinking beyond MAGA…she’s positioning herself for higher office, in my opinion. President, I don’t know, maybe a senator, maybe something else.” (Jennifer, 01:41)
“Is it because she’s ambitious…or is she mad at Trump?” (Angie, 03:36)
“Trump has now noticed that Marge is not towing the company line…Trump has called senior Republicans to ask what’s going on with Marjorie.” (Angie, 07:49)
“She had a life size poster picture of him…looked like she was cupping his balls.” (Angie, 08:14)
“Are we on the edge of an authoritarian takeover? We’re right smack dab in the middle of it. So we have to fight a lot of things at one time right now.” (Jennifer, 13:06)
On MTG’s calculation:
“If I was a Republican strategist…I would tell my candidate, ‘the end is near, biology, and he's underwater on everything…Start showing daylight [from Trump].” (Jennifer, 08:56)
On right-wing toxic masculinity:
“All they do is talk about men…It’s pretty gay. And I hang out with a lot of gay men all the time and they don’t talk about other men as much as MAGA men talk about men.” (Jennifer, 14:23)
On the stakes:
“We have to keep our eye on these people that are post-MAGA visionaries within the movement.” (Jennifer, 13:06)
On Marjorie Taylor Greene’s absurdity:
“She has actually said that she thinks the Democrats seed clouds to manipulate the weather over red states…Just batshit flu crazy crazy.” (Jennifer, 14:36)
Jennifer and Angie offer a raw, unfiltered look at the current realignment within America’s extreme right. With MAGA splintering, they warn progressives to stay alert for new political shapes on the right, especially as figures like Marjorie Taylor Greene attempt to capitalize on Trump’s weakening grip. The hosts blend political analysis with comedic commentary, making clear their rallying call: Recognize the danger, stay engaged, and don’t underestimate even the “batshit” brilliance of right-wing insurgents as the American political landscape enters a post-Trump phase.