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Foreign. If we were to make a list right now, the worst American families, number one top of my list would be the Millers. And I'm talking about Katie and Stephen Miller. These people are unbelievably racist, unbelievably fascist. The arrogance and the cruelty that they relish in every single day is so alarming. And they basically have grifted and lied their way into government housing. And you know, their big thing is, you know, nobody can have anything in America except for Americans and these moochers and all this stuff. Kylie, put this up. The Daily Beast is reporting that Katie Miller's excuse for free housing falls apart. In damning police report, Steve Schmidt says congratulations to at Katie Miller, winner of the 2025 Jesse Smollett Award. LOL. So basically people were outside their house chalking for human rights. And if you are a MAGA person and live in a MAGA bubble and you see a pride flag, you perceive that as a hostile act. That's how twisted these people are. Pumps. If they see a black Lives Matter, they see that as an attack on them personally. And so when people are out, rightfully, it's a free country. We still have the first Amendment protesting the fascist Nazi esque couple, Stephen and Katie Miller, for human rights. That's a good thing. They're making good trouble. But Katie immediately goes to victim mode and has lied her way into government housing.
Co-host
Here's the thing, the Jesse Smollett Award, that was fantastic because as we all know, he faked all this and attack on him and it was all lies. Here's the thing, you look at these two, you look as far back as Stephen Miller in high school and he is going on Hitler esque style rants even then. So in maga, it's cultivated and it's gelled and these two clearly go after each other. And I don't know if I told you this, but on her ridiculous podcast, she was trying to get the Dallas Cowboys football team owner Charlotte Jones Anderson to say bad bunny was bad for football. And Charlotte Jones Anderson wouldn't give it to her. And she's like, well, don't you think he ought to speak English? I mean, she acted like such a fucking nut. And she was like, the NFL is a game for everybody. It's international. This woman is eaten up with hatred as her husband. And I'll be honest, I didn't know that was possible. I really did not think anybody could be so full of hate and cruelty as Stephen Miller. But she continues to surprise me in that regard.
Host
You know, Pumps. It's like these people are these, like mean snowflakes. Like, they want to be mean to everybody, but they're triggered by Bad Bunny. Like, isn't that he's American, he's Puerto Rican, and isn't that the, the American dream that you can become an artist and you can end up playing at the Super Bowl? Can you imagine being so fragile, yet at the same time being so cruel that you're triggered by a pride flag? Bad Bunny. And this is ubiquitous across the entire MAGA sphere. And they cherry pick when they want to be multicultural and when it behooves them their favorite football team, their favorite basketball team. Oh, they're fine as long as these young black men are entertaining them. Oh, yeah. But then when we were to hear, if we were to hear these young black men talk about problems in their communities and social justice, they are very quick to silence them and remind them who the oppressor is. And it's just, it's so disturbing that the thing that disturbs me so much is, is these people are cruel for sport. It's for sport for them. And they're so broken. And of course, these two toxic people have found each other. Play some clips for you from her podcast. And here she is interviewing Elon Musk. And I want to remind you, Pumps and the viewer that a lot of Americans falsely equate wealth with intelligence. And so now it keeping that bearing that in mind, that we have as a society have said, oh, he's a billionaire, he must be a genius. That said a lot.
Guest
Play this clip which was a made up name that had been made up, I don't know, two or three months.
Host
Before.
Guest
And based on Internet suggestions and I was going to call it the Government Efficiency Commission. And then someone on the Internet said, no, it should be the department of efficiency, DoD. I'm like, that sounds great.
Co-host
That sounds great.
Guest
We just kind of made up a department.
Host
Do you think you were successful?
Guest
We were a little bit successful. We were somewhat successful.
Host
First and foremost, I know why, and I've discussed this before, but you want to know why? Don Donald Trump was smitten. Broke back mountains, smitten with Mayor elect Zoran Mamdani, because he's had to hang around these boring, arrogant, clueless freak shows all the time and think about it like this. Back when he was a real estate developer or when he was on Apprentice, he was probably around some pretty dynamic people, New York real estate market. He was probably around a lot of movers and shakers and smart people that he was Doing deals with architects, creative types, and the same with Apprentice. And now he's like, this is the, this is the bottom of the barrel in the form of the most boring, sociopathic, psychotic, pick me, billionaires on the planet. I can't believe, I mean, that podcast is so stunningly boring. And to think that that guy got all that power. He got the keys to the treasury, the keys to all of our personal information, and he was able to let his little kid run into the Oval and wipe boogers on the musk right in front of Trump. And remember when he, the little kid was kind of brow beating Trump even.
Co-host
Right. You're not. But, you know, he heard from his dad, you're not the president.
Host
It's, it's unbelievable how much power we give wealthy people in this country. It's such a, it's such an indictment on how we have promoted the wrong things as a culture. Money, money, money.
Co-host
Right. Well, and of course, Elon Musk would say the department of government efficiency, even though it takes him five hours to say it, successful because all of the investigations CR and civil into himself and his companies, he got rid of those. So it is high times for Elon Musk. And here's the thing about, you know, Trump being surrounded with these just complete bottom feeders. He's so bored with the bottom feeders. They have to praise him all the time and bring him a trophy. And then you, Zoron, who is megawatt personality plus funny, engaging. I'm sure he probably was Brokeback Mountain style.
Host
I was a breath of fresh air. It was a breath of fresh air. Okay, now I want to remind everybody before we watch this next clip from the hit podcast Fireside Nazi Chats with Katie Miller. And I want to remind you before we play this clip that number one, Elon Musk is an immigrant.
Co-host
Right.
Host
Number two, this language that he's using is becoming more and more normalized and growing like a cancer in the far right. And it is so cruel. So Nazi esque and Kylie, play the clip.
Guest
Say like this, this, this is fake. I'm like, actually. Well, let's look at, you know, Ilhan Omar who literally was voted into power, voted into Congress by, you know, large group of people from Somalia who are in Minnesota, which is really far from Somalia.
Host
Pause it real quick. He is a South African immigrant that paid $300 million and then did a I'll pay you $100,000 to vote for Trump game. Clearly illegal in the hypocrisy that he, in which he speaks is unbelievable. I Want to remind every MAGA person this guy is an immigrant, period. Move on.
Guest
By a majority of people who are not born in America. That's my understanding at least. So. And then California, same is big time situation. So I don't want to turn into.
Host
Okay, let's hear pumps take on this. Okay, enough of him.
Co-host
Obviously he cannot speak very quickly. Like I could have died by the end of that podcast. Let me just tell you something. I watched the Pete Hegseth podcast that was fucking worse than Elon Musk. So if anybody wants to just go in and, you know, stick needles in their eyes for fun, hit up Katie Miller's podcast. But here's the thing. All we hear about for MAGA is America is for Americans. America is for Americans only. Elon Musk, you're a fucking immigrant, dude. You're from South Africa. That's a far away from Minnesota too. And here's the thing. There's. They're not saying out loud the reason nobody gives a shit about Elon Musk coming in and bulldozing the government and being an immigrant and having all this power is he's. Because he's fucking white. Ilian Omar is not white. And that's what they're mad about. They don't give a shit where you're born, what you do, as long as you are white. And you know what that's called? White fucking supremacy. Which is loved on and cared for and grown in this MAGA movement.
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Who do you look up to the most?
Guest
The creator.
Host
What's your current position on God?
Guest
God is the creator.
Host
You don't believe in God, though, do you?
Guest
Well, I believe those. This universe came from something. People have different labels.
Host
Okay, okay. Is there, like, you don't believe in God, do you? Is there something there? I don't know. I mean, oh, she did work for him.
Co-host
Remember, she left the White House to go to work for him.
Host
Can you imagine Elon Musk being an upgrade?
Co-host
No, that's what. Here's the deal. I kind of felt sorry for, like, she's married to Stephen Miller. She goes to work for Elon Musk. Her life must suck. Then she starts talking, and I realize she likes all this. She likes to get on Fox News and call her but ugly, racist Nazi husband a sexual matador while she and Jesse Waters wink and post each other. And I'm just like, I. I can't imagine anything grosser than these two. Anything.
Host
All right, let's see if we can get any grosser. Play the last clip. The conspiracy theory you believe in.
Guest
I mean, which, which conspiracy theories haven't come true at this point? We've run out of conspiracy theories that. Because it will come true, as far as I can tell. I mean, I don't know of any aliens. People have asked me if there's aliens. I have seen no evidence of aliens. No one on the SpaceX senior team has any evidence of aliens. Because I've asked him, like, guys, am I missing something? Has anyone on the team. Has anyone seen any evidence of aliens?
Host
Does that include UFOs?
Guest
That's just an unidentified flying object. So UFOs, like, it could be like some new weapons program or whatever that's, you know, some hypersonic missile or something like that.
Host
Does she look smitten?
Co-host
I was going to say she really is smiling.
Host
I mean, she looked.
Co-host
There's a softness to her.
Host
I mean, because here's the thing.
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That.
Host
I'm incapable of kind of faking through that. I. I think that, like, I, I physically would start, like, this is boring. And you're gonna see me moving and shifting and messing with my hair and, you know, twirling my hands or something, and she's just back. Because that is fingernails on a chalkboard. Boring. Af. But also, it's a big reveal as to what a Twitter addict he is. I don't know what conspiracy theory hasn't come true. Like, none of them. They're conspiracy theories. You know, that's the thing about Maggot. It's like they try to do something new and niche and novel, and it's like, well, all the conspiracy theories have come true. And it's like, no, they actually haven't. The Earth is round. The moon landing was real, and we can go on and on. Donald Trump lost the 2020 election. It wasn't this guy. To sit there, I think it's just a study in, I guess, psychopaths. But to sit there and talk about the congresswoman and saying that she wasn't born in America, and then to call out Somalians, and they're really going. Whenever MAGA gets their sights set on somebody, you and I both know from personal experience, and now they're, you know, they went after the Haitians, now they're going after these Somalians. I think what makes me the saddest about this whole thing pumps is they the joy and the glee in which they all jointly take in beating people down. And on our side, like, I see an immigrant and I see the way they're treated, and I want to make sure I'm extra kind. I want to make sure I show them triple the kindness I normally would so that they know you are welcome here. And I'm so. I see you and I hear you, and I know what's happening, and I know how personal that must feel to you, and it pains me. And please know that a lot of us, the majority of us, do not share that our country is better for your having been here.
Co-host
I completely agree. And they take. Here's the thing. I, you know, they talk about they. Those videos that they post. Like, they love to watch the videos of people being shackled and all that. I mean, there's just something not quite right. I don't know if it's sociopathy or they're missing an empathy or they've just been taught in their churches, you can't have empathy because, you know, as we all know, that evangelical white mega churches suck the empathy out of you. So I just, I just look at that and I just think, number one, I would tell Elon Musk, take Adderall before interviews because you sound completely like you're asleep and everybody around you is asleep. So, I mean, you're a fan academy. I say ramp it up to Adderall next time you have an interview.
Host
Yeah, I mean, I think the last thing that guy needs is more drugs. I think he needs, like, inpatient treatment. Really, really bad. Untreated drug addicts having control of the gu yeah, it's really bad. All right. That's all we have for this episode. Like, subscribe, comment. We'll be back later with more news.
Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Date: December 12, 2025
In this episode, Jennifer and Pumps take a deep, satirical dive into recent right-wing political drama, zeroing in on Stephen and Katie Miller. They break down Katie’s fawning podcast interview with Elon Musk and expose MAGA hypocrisy around immigration, white supremacy, and conspiracy culture. The episode blends biting humor, strong progressive commentary, and vivid critique of contemporary political figures.
Jennifer and Pumps maintain a sharp, sarcastic, and unapologetically progressive tone—mixing humor with searing political critique. Their rapport offers both laughter and pointed analysis, making the episode equally entertaining and informative.
This summary captures the episode’s core commentary, offering listeners who missed it a vivid look at the hosts’ unfiltered dissection of right-wing politics, the Millers’ latest headlines, and Elon Musk’s dubious media excursions.