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Everybody knows that Stephen Miller is a little munchkin sociopath that has a lot of inner child issues. He refuses to go to therapy. And so you wonder like, what is his home life like? Like, what is his day to day like? Is there anybody in his orbit that's like, hey bro, you kind of seem like a sociopath, like something's off with you. And the answer to that question is nobody in his orbit ever checks him. Because most recently his wife, Katie Miller has rolled out a podcast and now she's on the press circuit and she was on Piers Morgan last night, you guys, and she has a full blown delusional meltdown. I mean a complete stage five meltdown on this show. And it shows you what happens when these people step outside of the Magaverse and get even remotely close to reality. Their entire world view collapses and they are snowflakes that are terrified and pissed off when things don't go their way and they play victim as quickly as they can while making shit up and pulling shit out of thin air, acting like psychos. Play the clip.
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Totally lying. It's very normal for a Miller to be completely and utterly lying.
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Quite frankly, I'm really sick and tired of this racist, bigoted rhetoric that can hums from people like you against my husband, against my family and my children. I am raising Jewish children in this country. In which you.
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What a weirdo.
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Piers, I'm going to be done with this. If you're going to allow racist and bigoted attacks against one of your commentators just for the sake that he will not let him speak.
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Casey, to be clear, Casey, to be.
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Clear, he inserted a line that says, is that not coded language or therefore we are Jewish? Come on, Pierce, where are you what? Where are you?
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God, you're so. Katie. If I can. If I can speak fire. I'm canceled. I'm canceled from America. Oh, my God. Israel's feelings have been, why don't you work for this? Can we try and get this country?
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Yeah.
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You are a guest on my show and I appreciate you coming on the show. And I like you coming on the show.
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And I'm saying, I'm saying I think you're able to put the state needs anti Semitic attacks. That is so permeating on cnn.
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This is so ridiculous. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I have to jump in here. Somebody criticizing you personally is not an anti Semitic attack. If somebody says that you are lying, that is not an attack on Jews. That is an attack on you. And just stop hiding behind identity. This is all the snowflake behavior that the right is supposedly criticizing the left for that you're simply repeating here. Yes, Stephen Miller is a destructive force in American society. That is not an attack on Jews. That is no reference to his identity. This is an attack on him individually. And just deal with the merits of this case.
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Wow. Okay. So it's just amazing to me that they get called out for being liars and then all of a sudden she's the one that bring her. Brings her kids into it and she cannot handle the truth. The second a mirror is put up to these people, you get that stage five meltdown. And this is supposed to be the fuck your feelings crowd. And what they're getting a dose of right now is a new breed of progressives and we have a brand of fuck you politics. And I'm proud of Chenk and the other guy, I don't know his name, that really called her out on that. What they were saying had nothing to do with her being a mother. It had nothing to do with her being Jewish. It had nothing to do with the country of Israel. They were talking about her husband being a psycho and being a total liar and her being the same and her being an apologist for all of the diabolical stuff that they want to do. I. To me, this makes perfect sense now. She even like had his speech pattern the same way he speaks that they. They are soulmates. I mean, there's no question about it, like the bottomless pit and how they. The toxicity that they must feed off of each other. And to bring up like to play the, the I'm Jewish card when they're not speaking about that is just unbelievable. And the lack of self awareness is breathtaking. So moving. Along at this as this e. She threatens Cenk of the young Turks, who I believe is Turkish. And I don't know what his. I don't know if he's citizen or not. I assume he probably is with deportation. This is the wife of an advisor to the president. She's never been elected for anything. Her husband has never been elected for anything. And she is on live television threatening to deport people. If any Democrat or any Democrat adjacent did anything remotely like this, the meltdown would be worse than the one you just saw Katie Miller do. Play the clip.
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Hold on, hold on, hold on.
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Did you hear that? She said you better check your citizenship application. You'll be just like Ilhan Omar. That is unbelievable how much better she thinks she is than everybody. And her opinion is superior to everybody else's. And again, it just makes perfect sense that she and Stephen Miller found each other. All right, moving along here is what happened right before she gets unhinged on the same Piers Morgan clip. So this. This is right before she brings up her kids. Play this part.
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Why is it that every time someone wants to criticize Mamdani, it immediately comes back to the Jews and the anti Israel movement? Instead of actually talking about his viewpoints, which is that nobody said Jews.
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You just said it. You always do that. We say Israel, you say Jews, we say Israel is a government. Please don't make it about Jewish Americans. And you come back, you have to make it about Jewish Americans.
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What's wrong with you?
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What's wrong with you?
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Is Israel a Jewish state? Yes or no?
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First of all. Okay, so you can criticize it all day long. All day long. I don't. There's no special protection.
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What you're doing is you decoding language. State or Muslims and we should not be in existence. And that you would be happy for other people. Like nonsense.
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I want Israel to be nothing of the same nonsense. You're totally lying. It's very normal for a Miller to be completely and utterly.
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Okay, stop. So that's what spawned the whole thing, is the Mamdani thing. And the Mamdani is making is breaking everybody. Because the narrative that has been pitched for years is that Muslims equal terrorism. And here you have this Muslim who is completely progressive. He believes in universal human rights. He wants to make New York City a sanctuary city for LGBTQ people. He advocates. He advocates for workers. He advocates for unions, and he wants billionaires to pay 2% more. These same billionaires have spent way more campaigning against him than they would have had they just used that 2% funneled it into the city to help the people that have made them billionaires. But this is the problem when speaking about Israel right now. It is, it is this. They try to make it this black and white thing that if you criticize Benjamin Netanyahu and you criticize Israel, that your somehow anti Semitic. And it's such bullshit. It's such total bullshit. As an American right now, I want my government criticized. I want the criminal that is in the Oval Office, I want him criticized. And I don't see that as an affront to me or my identity. I see that as the right moral move to make. I want Stephen Miller and Katie Miller criticized. And I don't see that as an affront to me being an American born and bred woman. And when you get to Israel, if you criticize this government, the Israeli government and the war criminal at the top of it, Benjamin Netanyahu, if you criticize their genocide or criticize all of the lying and the propaganda that they use with the United States of America and the world at large, then you're called an anti Semite. And everybody has to understand the anti Semitism, Islamophobia, homophobia, transphobia, racism, all of these things are linked. None of us are free until all of us are free. And you cannot prioritize the rights of one group over the rights of another marginalized group. It doesn't work that way. That's not how supporting universal human rights works work. And Zoran Mamdani has moral clarity on this. AOC has moral clarity on this. Bernie Sanders has moral clarity on this. And guess what they all three have in common. They can all three get triple trumpers to cross over and vote for them. And so that's why there is this ongoing non stop attack on Zoron. Because he has mobilized and energized the Democrats in a way that the establishment cannot. And it throws an arrow right into this narrative that Israel the government, not the Jewish people, Israel the government has said you cannot trust Muslims. They are all terrorists. Which is total bullshit. It is total bullshit. Extremist Muslims are every bit as psychotic as the extremist Christians that are trying to make this country a Christian nationalist regime. There is no daylight in the two of them. They call it the Christian Taliban. Where I used to live in Oklahoma City, you have preachers that call for the execution of homosexuals. Tell me how that's any different from the Israeli argument, that Israeli government argument that you can't trust Muslims because these countries want to execute gay people. Well, where I used to live. That's the way the mega church culture treats such a thing. There's no difference in any sort of religious extremists. And then you have to lump in the Israeli government as being extremely extreme. And so when you have a candidate that campaigns against that type of extremism and advocates for everybody's rights, everybody's privacy and everybody's dignity, it's a real threat to them. It's a real threat because also he's not going to provide loopholes for these billionaires to continue fleecing the American workforce. And if Benjamin Netanyahu were to show up in New York, he would have him arrested as any decent person would do, because he is a war criminal that wants to continue to ethnically cleanse Gaza. He is the largest killer of children in the world right now. And it's just unacceptable. And we all need to speak clearly and bravely about it. All right, stay with me. Let's take a brief moment to hear from our sponsor and I'd like to thank MSI Reproductive Choices for sponsoring this episode. Listener MSI Reproductive Choices is a world leader in reproductive health care and you can also call that family planning. They provide contraception, safe abortion and other essential reproductive health care in 36 countries around the world. They're focused on serving women who have very few, if any, other options for their services, women who are living in poverty in remote areas, women with disabilities and adolescent girls. Listen to this. 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But what I think you're seeing and what Karen is attesting to is that she is quite incompetent to do the job. Right. This is what Republicans have been saying for years now, is that she is just another evidence that DEI doesn't work. Whether that's in the White House in your press secretary role or whether that's a, you know, an air traffic controller, an air pilot, whether that's your doctor, you know, you want to hire the best for the role, not just based on skin color. Jake, why did she get the job over John Kirby? Well, why are we assuming that she, as a black, lgbt, you know, gay woman, is dei, but a white woman who is behind the podium right now, which DEI initially started as affirmative action, which was about affirmatively hiring women and minorities. Why is one DEI and the other is not? Why did she get the job over John Kirby? Because, as everyone has said this week, she is woefully incompetent. She had the job long before John Kirby.
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I will just say she used to be okay. I think the Miller's whole identity is just hating on anybody different. And their whole identity is like dei when the other panelists there very brilliantly points out that Kara Lyon, KKK Levitt has the position that she has because of the work of so many women that fought for this. Right. But here's what's so important to note to all Americans. And I specifically want to tell Americans of black or brown skin that I see you right now and I see what they're doing, that she's saying that any person of color that has a job only has that job because the color of their skin. And I think that is so racist, and I think that is so dismissive, and I think that is so dehumanizing because I know my black and brown friends. I know that it was easier for me to get right here in front of this camera because of the color of my skin and my family's socioeconomic status than a lot of you. I know that the hill was harder to climb. And in seeing somebody's humanity, it doesn't really talk about fairness. It just opens up your mind to being more empathetic and telling your fellow Americans, I see you and I hear you. But what's more important is when you see somebody being racist, dismissively racist like that, about somebody's accomplishments and completely dismissing them and demeaning them. It's important to tell your other fellow Americans, I see what they're doing to you, and I'm not down with that. I don't fuck with that. I stand with you. I am your ally, and I'm against the racist. And I think that is a very important position that all Americans take right now, specifically white Americans. I think it's so important that we stand up against this. All right, I'm going to leave you with this. Finally, Katie Miller, of course, last night, after this whole, you know, media blitz shit show, she retreats to her safe space. Fox News. Play the clip.
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A juncture in the road. Katie. She looks absolutely terrified, that woman.
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Why would Republicans try to cancel the midterms when we know we're going to win the midterms? Democrats have no platform, no candidates, no policy. President Trump has completed every single one of his platform commitments from the GOP convention last summer.
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So there she is. And that's just. That is absolute propaganda in lying. They do, I believe they do plan to do whatever they can do to hinder the midterms. The historically autocrats, as soon as they get power, everything they do is an effort to cling on to power. And I want to remind everybody, as depressing as all this shit is, the strong man only remains as long as he emits this strength. And their strongman, the man that she's on there defending, is humiliating himself on the global stage right now, all over Asia. She thinks he's a piece of shit, which was obvious from the body language in that video. And he's bragging on Air Force One about being able to successfully identify identify a giraffe on a piece of paper and even challenging AOC and Jasmine Crockett to conduct the same test. I want to remind you that both of these women are incredibly smart, graduated with honors. But in the Katie Miller's world and in the Donald Trump's world, they're worthless to them. Why is AOC worthless to them? Why is Jasmine Crockett worthless to them? Because the color of their skin. And that tells you everything you need to know about the Katie Miller's, the Stephen Millers and the Donald Trumps of the world than it does about the AOCs and the Jasmine Crockets. All right, support our show. Pumps is traveling today, so she's not with me. So she's normally our book model. Support our show by buying our book. It's called Life is a lazy Susan of shit sandwiches. The link is right below in the Show Notes. Subscribe to our channel like this video. Engage with it to help the algorithm and we'll be back later with more news.
Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Date: October 30, 2025
This episode dives into the viral on-air meltdown of Katie Miller, wife of notorious political advisor Stephen Miller, during her appearance on Piers Morgan’s show. Jennifer Welch, solo-hosting while “Pumps” is away, provides a sharp-witted, progressive analysis of Miller’s breakdown, unpacking themes of victimhood, right-wing deflection, identity politics, and the broader implications in American sociopolitical discourse. She ties Miller’s behavior to current events, the lack of self-awareness on the right, and persistent attacks on marginalized groups fighting for universal rights.
Jennifer Welch delivers a lively, incisive solo episode critiquing the right's hypocrisy, deflection tactics, and use of identity to evade accountability. By contextualizing Katie Miller’s breakdown as symptomatic of deeper MAGA vulnerabilities, she calls for solidarity, especially among white Americans, against systemic racism and bigotry—urging listeners to stay vigilant and “stand with you... against the racist.”