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Podcast Guest
Foreign.
Host (likely a progressive political commentator)
Movement continue. And Tucker Carlson is now apologizing publicly on his podcast for his involvement in supporting Trump. Let's play the clip.
Podcast Guest
You and I and everyone else who supported him. You wrote speeches for him. I campaigned for him. I mean, we're implicated in this for sure.
Host (likely a progressive political commentator)
Yes.
Podcast Guest
It's not enough to say, well, I changed my mind or like, oh, this is bad, I'm out. It's like in very small ways, but in real ways, you and me and millions of people like us are the reason this is happening right now. Yes. So I do think it's like a moment to wrestle with our own consciences. You know, we'll be tormented by it for a long time. I will be. And, and I want to say I'm sorry for misleading people in was not intentional. That's all I'll say. But anyway. But the question does present itself immediately, like what is this? Was this always the plan? You don't want to be a conspiracy nut, but like, clearly there were signs of low character. We knew that.
Host (likely a progressive political commentator)
I've heard enough, I've heard enough, I've heard enough. Him saying, and I'd like to welcome Josh, attorney and husband of mine, to IHIP News today. Tucker Carlson saying, we didn't intentionally do this. And there were quote unquote signs of Trump's character issues and who he's interfering. There is his brother, Buckley Carlson, and he is a Republican Party operative who previously wrote speeches for Trump. His son, also named Buckley, recently resigned as Vance's deputy press secretary following his dad's fallout with Trump. And I just, I have huge issues with these triple Trumpers that now the very obvious conclusion that Trump is a dipshit, a fascist, a criminal, a con man, and it took you 10, 11 years to figure it out? I'm sorry, I just don't have a lot of empathy for that.
Josh (Attorney, husband of C)
The bigger problem for me is what did you get from Trump that you didn't expect? Because you got him as it, you got just as advertised. All of us did. It's so much self serving bullshit. And what really is going on here is that for some reason Tucker Carlson's not getting exactly what he wants from this president. And so now he wants to have buyer's remorse. It's not because he's got some sort of moral compass and he has somehow seen the light. It's because it doesn't serve his own interest anymore. Complete hypocrisy.
Host (likely a progressive political commentator)
So there's this whole notion right now with a lot of people, Josh, that say we need to offer these triple Trumpers an off ramp. And I personally feel like. And you, and I, you grew up in rural Oklahoma, I mean, MAGA Central. I grew up in Oklahoma City, the suburbs, and I feel like there's always deference to, to people who bend their knee to the patriarchy whose first impulses are homophobia, racism, worshiping money, worshiping rich people, and they all screw up really bad for 11 years now. And then it's like, oh, these poor babies, we need to offer them an off ramp. And I just have a hard time believing that offering these people an offer amp. And you know, these people, you know, both the rural type of Trumper and then we both know the country club type of Trumper that has gay friends, that tries to act socially cool, but every chance they can get, they go vote for racism because they like it. I don't see these people ever voting for Democrats, ever. And I'm not saying we have to be cruel to these people, but not holding them accountable or giving them this off ramp and coddling them is not something I am capable of doing. I'm. I'm capable of fighting for them to have health care. I'm capable of fighting for their future children or grandchildren that might gay to be treated equally under the law and not be discriminated against by people like these triple Trumpers that vote this way, homophobes like Tucker Carlson. But what's your take on a rural tripper, triple Trumper, and then the country club?
Josh (Attorney, husband of C)
Well, I, I think some voters in places like Oklahoma, more rural areas, sometimes they do genuinely have remorse. Maybe they're not educated about certain issues. But, but a lot of times, like with Tucker Carlson, see, here is he's not, he's not against what Trump stands for. That's not what he's saying here. Something has happened where it doesn't serve his interest anymore to be a racist or to be a homophobe. So now he's changed gears. So, I mean, I think that as Democrats, we want to embrace and open up the idea of trying to reach out to people who genuinely have contrition, who maybe made a mistake. Certainly worth examining why they voted for Trump in the first place. But people like Tucker Carlson and other politicians, their motives are self serving. Like it's clear who Tucker Carlson is. It's clear that he knew what he was signing up for when he supported Donald Trump. His, as you said, his brother worked for J.D. vance. There's no surprise here at the end of this rainbow that he's getting something that he didn't know he was getting. So to hear him go on and on and give this, you know, somewhat contrite speech about I'm sorry and I feel responsible, I mean, it's just bullshit. It's just bullshit.
Host (likely a progressive political commentator)
All right, so Congressman Chip Roy is a MAGA racist Islamophobe of the highest order. And the Democrats have a star in the mayor of New York, Zoran Mamdani. And Zoron took on the establishment, he took on the billionaires and he was laser focused on affordability and delivering for the working class New Yorkers. And he even got a lot of pushback and blowback from within the Democratic Party. But he remains laser focused. And the Zoran Mamdanis of the world are a huge threat to the Chip Roys, to the Lindsey Grahams, to the RNC and some people in the Democratic establishment that use the this propaganda that if somebody is a Muslim, they must be a terrorist. And this propaganda has been successful to get people to support blank checks to Israel, to keep supporting patriarchal candidates. And now Chip Roy has introduced the Mamdani Act. Let's pop this up. Representative Ch. Chip Roy introduces the Momani act measures against Marxism's dangerous adherence and noxious Islamists. It allows for deportation, sl denaturalization of immigrants, involved with socialist, communist, Chinese, Communist, Marxist or Islamic fundamentalist doctrines. And so this is just the loudest of dog whistle on the planet and it's just straight up racism. And I think that you had some people in the Democratic Party that didn't come out and endorse Mom Donnie because they're compromised by Israel. And this is a huge blow to the propaganda that we've all been sold about Muslims. We have all been sold this Muslims are terrorists and they're going to blow up and they have a bunch of wives and all of this stuff. Well, Zoran Mamdani is for universal human rights, child care. He's literally trying to advocate for toddlers whose parents need to go to work and cannot afford child care. And Chip Roy is throwing out this rampant racism. What's your take on this, Josh?
Josh (Attorney, husband of C)
Well, number one, I think it shows the power of Mamdani and how threatened these politicians feel by his success. Because you see a legislation like this, I mean, it's obvious this is just blatant racism on his face. It makes you, makes me want to suggest that maybe we need to deport white people with guns, shoot people. You know, maybe we need a Chip Roy, you know, Chip Roy act. Maybe it's not too bad of an idea to remove people that use guns to shoot and kill people.
Host (likely a progressive political commentator)
Well, and let me just remind you of this. The person that shot their icon, Charlie Kirk, was a white boy raised in MAGA world, in maga culture, in the most cracker ass cracker neighborhood imaginable in Utah. And so.
Josh (Attorney, husband of C)
And this is where they do the flip, right? So, so they do the flip to where if the numbers and the statistics show that more white people with guns, males kill people than Muslims in America, then you got to flip it and you got to create this narrative in this act and this legislation to sort of validate that. And that's what this is. You know, instead it should be if you're white, if you're a male, if you shoot people and you murder them in the United States, maybe you get deported, maybe you don't get to live here anymore because you murder 10, 12, 15, 18, 20 people. The Chiproi Act.
Host (likely a progressive political commentator)
All right, moving along, the resignations and firings and Trump 2.0 have completely arrived. There's a new one. Labor Secretary Lori Chavez de Ramir resigns. The allegations pop this up first. Labor Secretary has resigned. Her exit follows a tenure rocked by multiple scandals, including an investigation into an alleged offense spare with a security staffer and accusations of drinking on the job. Keith Saunderling will serve as acting labor secretary. It seems like everybody in the Trump regime is getting all liquored up and playing grab ass. It seems like it is just one after another liquored up and plus grab ass.
Josh (Attorney, husband of C)
It just sounds like goddamn game day. Get you a keg of beer and just go to town. If you're in D.C. right now, isn't it just tailgating? So, you know, this sounds like an old episode of like All My Children or something. You've got all this drinking and affairs and toxic workplace and misconduct.
Host (likely a progressive political commentator)
Listen to these allegations. Ordering. She ordered, allegedly ordered staffers to fabricate official work trips so she could visit friends and family on taxpayer money. That's totally Trumpian. MAGA values out the wazoo. She allegedly was directing staff to pressure civil servants into distributing grant funding in ways that could serve her future political ambitions. Play out a MAGA Christian, totally in line. Allegedly her husband was accused of sexually assaulting two female Labor Department employees on the premises, with one encounter reportedly caught on camera and was subsequently banned from the department's headquarters. So not only is she playing grabass, her husband's getting all liquored up and playing grab ass.
Josh (Attorney, husband of C)
It's just bad luck for him that shit's caught on tape. I mean, that's awful. That's horrible. She can't even go to work anymore without seeing his ass on some video being circulated.
Host (likely a progressive political commentator)
And then at least three formal complaints alleging she created a toxic workplace and retaliated against women who reported her husband's misconduct. And this is all done in the name of Jesus, brought to you by the MAGA Pro Family Republicans. What a crock of.
Josh (Attorney, husband of C)
I think if we could just put a few more Bibles in the Department of Labor. Is that what she's. Yeah, she's Labor Secretary. If we could just put more Bibles, maybe start the day with a 10 or 15 minute moment of kind of worship and prayer, maybe a lot of this stuff wouldn't have happened.
Host (likely a progressive political commentator)
Well, you know, it's interesting you say that because before they go into work at the O. At the West Wing, the. Paula, why the spiritual advisor to Trump, she does. She leads a little light tongue talking before they go in. Despite that Trump still grifting from the treasury, starting illegal wars, killing Iranian schoolgirls, and lying is fucking face off.
Josh (Attorney, husband of C)
Do you think that we, maybe she could kind of walk over to the Department of Labor and maybe loan them her skill set of worship for a few days? And you know what's funny to do? This isn't funny. But, you know, if you're Trump, as stupid as he fucking is, and one of your assistants comes to you and says, hey, this goddamn Department of Labor thing is just, you know, he's on tape. It's just, you know, Trump's just going, God damn it. You know, just one thing after another. It's just, you couldn't make this up. You could. You couldn't intertwine it into it.
Host (likely a progressive political commentator)
Well, it's pretty bad when you would take it to Trump and Trump would be like, God damn it, this is the. Grab him by the guy. You know, so the bar is already that low.
Josh (Attorney, husband of C)
It's like, can I not catch a break here? We got this other gal's husband, like, he's wearing tits and hoops, and I just can't. Can we not, you know, I just can't catch a break here. Like, what the big titty Brian just got. He's got fake boobs all this.
Host (likely a progressive political commentator)
And she's interesting that the women that Trump has hired, their husbands, if we go to Big Titty Brian and Lori Chavez de Ramire, they are just like Trump, you know, they're sexual deviants. The whole lot of this maga, family values and purity culture and it's just such. But I want to lead you. Do you have something?
Josh (Attorney, husband of C)
Yeah, one last thing. I speaking of Big Titty, what's his name?
Host (likely a progressive political commentator)
Big Titty Brian.
Josh (Attorney, husband of C)
Big Titty Brian. His wife likes to like, put this camo gear on and look tough and all this. And she's out doing nothing in the field and then she's thinking to herself, look, you son of a. I put this camo on, I've got guns. I'm out here doing this rough and I have to go look and see you dressed up and all this stuff. Are you kidding me? You know, anyway, yeah.
Host (likely a progressive political commentator)
All right, moving along, Sam Stein has some analysis on the women that remain in Trump's cabinet. Pop this up. The three cabinet departures so far are three women known Bondi and now Chavez de Ramir Waltz was Acts two, I suppose, but ended up as UN Ambassador. And let me just remind you about Mike Waltz. He's the guy that on Twitter some sleuth found that he followed an account on on Twitter called Big Dick Bottoms. And this has never been community noted he since unfollowed it. But there are screenshots that Mike Walls, the UN Ambassador to Donald Trump, likes to follow accounts called Big Dick Bottoms. And so the women that remain are Tulsi Gabard, Brooke Rollins. Brooke Rollins, of course, is the woman who said, if you can't afford eggs, get your own chickens and have your chickens breed. And that's how you eat your eggs. Linda McMahon, whose husband is, you know, accused of all sorts of sexual assault. Kelly Loeffler is the head of Small Business Administration. So, Josh, final question to you all of the. There's some reporting last week that Trump has told all of these people, don't worry, everybody who's been within 200 yards of the oval is getting a pardon. And so as a criminal defense attorney, is there a case that people can make that if you're telling people to commit a crime because you're going to pardon him, does that make the pardon null and void?
Josh (Attorney, husband of C)
Yeah, I think that. And that's a new sort of this whole area of pardon law has emerged with Trump and the way he's used the ability to give pardons. And you know, another segment that we talked about was basically these pardons are for sale, you know, just blatant profiting off of granting pardons. But I think that there would be a very good chance that if you pardon someone with the intention of concealing a crime that you knew they would commit, that that pardon would be null and void. I mean, I think that there's a full area of law that would address that. But again, like so many other things, Trump pushes the envelope on these issues to a place that no one could have fathomed that it would go to. And that you'd have to think. You couldn't imagine a president saying, hey, go out and do all this crazy shit because I'm going to give you a pardon and you're going to be okay. Like you couldn't fathom living in a country that elected a leader like that. Which circles back to Tucker Carlson saying he got something that he didn't know he was going to get. I think those people are full of shit. I think we're all getting exactly what we knew we were going to get.
Host (likely a progressive political commentator)
I agree. All right, we'll leave it there. Please like and subscribe. And we'll be back later with more news.
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Host (likely a progressive political commentator)
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Episode Title: The End of Trump and MAGA is Near? Tucker Carlson Apologizes For Supporting Trump
Date: April 21, 2026
Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Guest: Josh (Attorney, husband of one host)
Tone: Progressive, comedic, feel-good, highly opinionated
This episode tackles seismic shifts within the post-Trump Republican landscape, zeroing in on Tucker Carlson’s surprising public apology for backing Trump and the wider cracks spreading through MAGA world. The hosts, joined by “Josh,” dissect contrition among right-wing media personalities, MAGA hypocrisy around loyalty and moral character, and the unravelling of Trump’s scandal-ridden administration. They also take aim at recent racist legislation, Trump cabinet resignations, and the farcical depth of GOP “family values.”
Clip Played: Tucker Carlson admits regret for his influential support of Trump, claiming he and others “misled people” though “it was not intentional.”
Hosts’ Response:
Josh’s Take:
Host Commentary:
Josh’s Analysis:
Hosts Highlight: Rep. Chip Roy’s “Mamdani Act” for denaturalization/deportation of immigrants with certain political/religious affiliations.
Josh’s Satirical Response:
Memorable Moment:
Labor Secretary Scandal:
Josh’s Reaction: Compares D.C. under Trump to rowdy tailgating (11:01).
Hosts Lampoon:
Satire on ‘Family Values’:
Pardons for Loyalty:
Josh’s Legal Commentary:
The episode weaves its outrage, analysis, and comedy into a scathing critique of MAGA-led hypocrisy, shifting right-wing allegiances, and ongoing Republican scandals. The hosts and guest are uncompromising in holding Trump enablers accountable and refusing to “coddle” those discovering regret only when it serves their interest. The show ends with a reminder that nothing happening now in MAGA world should surprise anyone who’s been paying attention.