Podcast Summary: IHIP News
Episode: The Fascist Takeover of the United States is Happening Right Now
Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Date: September 18, 2025
Overview
In this fiery episode, Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan dig into what they describe as an active fascist takeover of America under Donald Trump’s renewed influence. Through satirical but alarmed commentary, they spotlight the government’s alleged coercion of media networks, the firing of comedian Jimmy Kimmel, and the coordinated efforts between state power and oligarchic billionaires to suppress free speech. The hosts blend righteous anger with gallows humor, calling upon listeners to recognize the scale of threats to democracy and participate in pushback.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Framing the Crisis: Government Overreach & Suppression of Speech
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Opening Rant: Krystal Ball sets the urgent tone, arguing that mainstream media is downplaying the dangers of state-sponsored censorship and oligarchic collusion under Trump.
- “This is not cancel culture. What happened to Jimmy Kimmel will continue and continue. They are moving the goalposts and they will not stop.” (Krystal Ball, 00:42)
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David Pakman:
- Clearly distinguishes state censorship from “cancel culture,” describing the firing of Kimmel as “not culture, it’s state repression… an order from the government.”
- Illustrates the danger by comparing it to a hypothetical where the Biden administration demanded media personalities express mandated opinions after the Paul Pelosi attack.
- “There was an order from the state about what people must say. Jimmy Kimmel did not say that and… was threatened with consequences… This is not cancel culture because it’s not culture, it’s state repression.” (David Pakman, 01:23)
2. Media Consolidation, Corporate Complicity & Regulatory Leverage
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Brian Stelter explains the business pressures:
- Media conglomerates Nexstar and Sinclair needed Trump’s FCC approval for mergers.
- Both companies lobbied ABC to pull Kimmel in hopes of currying favor with the administration.
- “We know that both Nextar and Sinclair called up ABC this afternoon, complained about Kimmel and said they were yanking the show off their stations… It’s exactly what it looks like.” (Brian Stelter, 04:34)
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Krystal Ball expands:
- Calls out Sinclair for using local news credibility as a cloak for coordinated propaganda.
- Notes the symbolic insult of replacing Kimmel with a tribute to far-right figure Charlie Kirk and the demands for a public apology and donation to Turning Point USA.
- “It is jaw dropping that they are mainstreaming a racist… We believe it, we like everything he said, we support everything he said.” (Krystal Ball, 07:08)
3. Public Reaction and the Myth of “Majority Consensus”
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Saagar Enjeti raises alarm at the number of Americans supportive of these actions and voices fear that Trump’s base is more powerful than the left acknowledges.
- “77 million Americans believe the same that Charlie Kirk did… That is terrifying because Trump with the billionaires, they have to have the consent of the people.” (Saagar Enjeti, 09:10)
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Krystal Ball Reframes:
- Pushes back, arguing many Trump voters are just anti-status quo, misled, or seeking different policy outcomes — not all are ideologues.
- Critiques Democratic strategy for centrism, insisting it appears to be “status quo” rather than real change.
4. State Retaliation and Erosion of the First Amendment
- Adam Cochran’s Twitter report is cited for a timeline and facts:
- Nextstar is depicted as being coerced directly by federal threats tied to their merger: “we can do this the easy way or the hard way.”
- Network executives reportedly had no issue with Kimmel, but removed him under pressure from Trump’s administration.
- “This was expressly the federal government weaponizing federal departments in retribution for someone being critical of the President. This is literally what the first amendment exists for.” (Krystal Ball, 13:23)
5. The Weaponization of State Media
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Saagar Enjeti notes the full defunding of PBS and NPR, moving even public broadcasting toward state-controlled media akin to Putin’s Russia.
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Krystal Ball ties this to Trump’s personal vendettas:
- “He’s a little titty baby who got his feelings hurt by comedians. And he's been chomping at the bit to go after everybody that's hurt his feelings his whole life.” (Krystal Ball, 15:52)
6. The Role of Billionaires and Corporate Cowardice
- Hassan Piker and Krystal Ball stress:
- Corporate America will not defend democracy; their only loyalty is to profit and currying favor with power.
- “Every corporation is instantly folding to the admin, even when it’s over an utterly inoffensive joke. The administration doesn’t like liberals need to wake up. We all have to fight back.” (Krystal Ball quoting Hassan Piker, 16:55)
Memorable Quotes & Notable Moments
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“We cannot lose our country and our right to free speech, to free expression and we cannot lose our comedians because a demented 80 year old man… The biggest fraud on the planet.”
(Krystal Ball, 00:34) -
“If you don't like Jimmy Kimmel, you don't watch the show. I think Greg Gutfield and Jesse Waters are pricks. Guess what? I don't watch their shows.”
(Krystal Ball, 03:15) -
“Sinclair's ABC stations are going… Instead of airing Jimmy Kimmel, they are airing a special remembrance of Charlie Kirk… They have also demanded that Jimmy Kimmel pay a heartfelt apology to the Kirk family and make a donation to Turning Point USA.”
(Krystal Ball, 06:15) -
“The billionaire ruling class plus all of the crazy MAGA cultists and all of the just bend over beta males surrounding Trump. They have no conviction. They operate out of fear. And do you want to know who the billionaires are scared of…? The people. Us.”
(Krystal Ball, 16:50)
Timestamps for Important Segments
- 00:00–01:15: Krystal Ball and David Pakman frame state repression vs. cancel culture
- 04:14–05:08: Brian Stelter’s explainer on media business, Sinclair’s and Nextar’s compliance
- 05:08–09:10: Sinclair Media’s propagandizing and coordinated messaging
- 09:10–12:00: Debate over Trump’s support base and Democratic response
- 12:20–15:25: Dissecting the facts of the Kimmel firing; First Amendment stakes
- 15:32–15:52: NPR/PBS fully defunded; pivot to state-run media
- 16:50–End: The call to action and warning about corporate cowardice and organizing resistance
Tone & Style
The hosts alternate between comedic sarcasm, righteous fury, and analytical clarity. They use pointed language and pop-cultural references (“titty baby,” “suck it, America,”) to keep the commentary direct and relatable while underlining the anxiety and urgency they perceive in the present situation.
Conclusion
This episode serves as both a warning and rallying cry about the convergence of political power and media influence, the closing of independent speech, and the dangers of apathy. The hosts detail the Kimmel firing as a case study for broader authoritarian trends and urge progressive listeners to resist normalization of state censorship and billionaire-driven compliance. The final note is a call to unity and vigilance for defenders of free expression.
