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Podcast Host
Maga has built a gigantic tent of racists and bigots. And somebody who is enjoying all of the attention right now is neo Nazi Nick Fuentes. And Nick Fuentes is young and he has an army of boys that are called groipers and he calls them boys. Like some he used to run around with a cat boy, which is a like a twink with cat costume. And so there's all this kind of homoeroticism built into these white nationalist movements. But anyway, here's Nick Fuentes. And everybody knows Donald Trump is a fan of Nick Fuentes and had dinner with him at Mar a Lago. And now the Heritage foundation and Tucker Carlson are embracing Nick Fuentes and the Groipers. And here's what Nick Fuentes has to say about all of the best people from history.
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Nick Fuentes
Play the clip of the realest in history were virulent anti Semites and racists. Can I can pop off real quick? George Washington racist. Abraham Lincoln racist. Christopher Columbus racist. Jesus split the veil. His last his parting gift is that he tore the veil covering the holy of holies and shook the earth. So the more that I read that, I'm just translating it in my head as real. When people say white nationalist, racist, anti Semite Nick Fuentes, I'm just reading badass. I'm just reading real ass.
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Podcast Host
Okay, this stuff hits hard with a group of People. And Nick Fuentes is making his way into a lot of people's algorithms. He's made his way on to Tucker Carlson's podcast. He made his way to dinner with Donald Trump. Donald Trump has always signaled that anti Semites are welcome in his movement. Why hard right wing Jews have sought refuge with him is fascinating. It's interesting to me that they actually can hear the talk, the, the words of Nick Fuentes and Nick Fuentes. He, he tells it exactly what he. There's no passive aggression about it. He's very aggressive about who he is. You don't have to. There's no word salad nuance with that. And so the people that are welcoming him or have welcomed him are fine with all of this. Which brings me to Ben Shapiro and the other hard right wing Jews that they actually have the audacity to call Zoran Momdami and anti Semite. It's wild.
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Podcast Guest
Well, it's crazy because it, it's not that hard. You listen to Stephen Miller's rhetoric. It's the same as Hitler. Like, this administration goes straight down the line with racism. And you know, nobody's going to replace whites only white supremacy. You've got Stuart Rhodes crawling out of the jail that Trump pardoned him from saying, we're going to start enforcing what the president says. How many white supremacy groups do you know that support presidents openly and say we're going to enforce their laws? Like you have to look at that and say, why this president? It's because this president is a racist and a white supremacist. And he, he digs it. He likes it.
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Podcast Host
All right? Now, Nick Fuentes says be careful calling him a Nazi because he has an army of young boys. And these young boys are what are called the Groipers, which seem to be the people that are looking at Post Kanks America, a group highly recruited by the potential air appearance of the MAGA cult play the club.
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Nick Fuentes
Call me a Nazi. You better be careful because if I'm a Nazi, then there's millions of young people that are following a Nazi. So you better be careful about those words. You're saying I'm a Nazi. I'm a monster. There's a million monsters. Then there's a million Nazis out there. Then, because they love my show and they agree with me way more than they agree with you and they're pissed off and they'll follow me into battle. So you better be real careful. You're barking up the wrong tree with that, okay?
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Podcast Host
And he's right. He has a huge audience which is why Tucker, which is why Donald Trump invited him to Mar a Lago. And the larger issue that we have to have as a nation is you're always going to have fringe groups that exist, especially in a, in a place with the First Amendment, free speech, free thought, et cetera. My diagnosis of what I've seen is the prioritization of people in the far, far right, Jewish groups that see that their needs take priority over anti immigration sentiments. I recently read an article in New York magazine that women on the Upper east side are just beside themselves at Zoran Mamdani's victory. And they feel like there's just this rising anti Semitism and they just think they're going to, might have to move to New Jersey. And oh, the horror. And oh, the terror. And I just have to say to these women of the Upper east side, where have you been? Like, I have seen rising anti Semitism too, and I've seen it all with Donald Trump. Zoran Mamdani has spoken out explicitly against anti Semitism. But then the people who scream anti Semitism the most engage in a horrific form of bigotry towards a man who happens to be Muslim and this Islamophobic rhetoric. And they never link the fact that, that to the white Christian nationalists, to the Nick Fuentes, to the Donald Trumps. You're always just going to be a Jew, or if you're an immigrant, you're always just going to be an immigrant. Or if you're a Muslim, you're always just going to be a Sharia law jihadist. And if you're a woman, you're always just going to be a hysterical feminist. And so this is so fascinating to me that people right now in New York on the Upper east side, these women, there was a Facebook group that they covered this, are just beside themselves at Zoran Momdami. And I'm like, did you pay attention to the Madison Square Garden Nazi rally? What about when Trump sat down with this guy? What about when he provided cover for the Charlottesville marchers that said Jews will not replace us? Recently since Trump 2.0 in Orange County, California, there were masked white nationalists chanting anti Semitic things. The Zoran Mamdani who marches in the LGBTQ Pride parade with a trans flag is not a fucking Sharia law jihadist. Conservative Jewish people, your problem is not Zoron Momdani. Your problem has been in front of you all of this time. The Nazis are the people with whom you have sought refuge, and they will turn the knives on you. You. It's already Happening. And they've been doing it in front of your face this whole time. You have just chosen not to see it because you think your marginalized group is better than all of the other marginalized groups. And you've left yourself vulnerable because you have to link the attacks that I see on women right now, I directly linked link to all other human rights. I link them to LGBTQ + rights, I link them to transphobia, I link them to anti Semitism, I link them to Islamophobia. I do not think the plight of women is greater than all of these other marginalized groups. And so it's just amazing to me that people just now are feeling anti Semitism with Zoran Mamdani when literally you have Nazis running this country right now.
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Podcast Guest
Now I completely agree with you. Why all at once are you just now noticing this? It's, it's real strange. You know, we had, during the campaign, we had Nikki Haley saying, well, we don't have racism in this country. I thought it was crazy then. But what we have to take a look at is racism in all forms, demeaning people in all forms. Whether you are brown, whether you are Jewish, whether you are a female. We've got to look, why is our society so easy to demeanor other people and dehumanize them? That to me, across the board, nobody gets higher ratings? It's all bad. It's not good. None of it. So that's where I think the big problem is, is that we're allowing everybody to be racist against their own people. And we think, oh, well, my, you know, the big bigotry against me is worse. No, it's all bad. It's all bad.
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Podcast Host
Yeah. And your point about Nikki Haley is a really good one because since she said that the anti Indian sentiments, which she is Indian, changed her name to be more Americanized, which, fine. I don't, I don't begrudge her for that. I don't begrudge Raphael Cruz, going by Ted. I don't care about any of that. But they tend to care about that. But since then, you've seen a rise of anti Indian sentiments and then as they're racist towards those people. Now, Trump has said he favors H1B visas over which a lot of Indian people get H1B visas. And he prefers those because those people have talent over Americans, which shows how unsafe anybody is in this regime. Even a white, American born, rural person to this regime, even you don't have value to him. They devalue everybody. So when you have the Nikki Haley's that engage in this type of internalized racism. And she engages in maternal internalized misogyny. And then she projects that out to provide cover. At some point, all of these knives get attacked, thrown on everyone. And even where we grew up, you guys, they're like, well, we're real Americans. I'm from, you know, Oklahoma. And they think they're more American than somebody from New York. By Trump's own statements recently, Americans weren't talented enough to have jobs. And so it shows how this regime creates an environment of emotional instability and emotional insecurity where you do not feel safe or nobody's safe. And so what does he do to get you? He takes away something you need, like air traffic control, or he takes away your SNAP benefits. And he does it because he wants you to get so desperate that then you have a battered wife syndrome. When he comes back and gives it back to you, you think, oh, my God, thank you so much. I'm so glad. These are the tactics of abusers. And Donald Trump has always been an abuser. We've seen it forever. But the people surrounding him, even a moderate Republican like Nikki Haley and Hide and Watch, she's going to come out of the woodwork soon and she's going to run again, have provided cover for this administration and for her. Not telling people the truth about racism creates a environment where no one is safe. Even these white real Americans have, you know, nuts on their trucks and Trump flags. Trump thinks you're not talented enough to get a job. And so it's just, it's amazing to me that all of this has been out there this whole time. And the willful blindness of a lot of far right Jewish people to not see the embrace of Nazism has been here this whole time. And it doesn't come from the Zoran Mamdanis. He's not a person you need to be scared of. He links Islamophobia to antisemitism on the same playing field. And that is the only way you really, really penetrate bigotry. And I would think if I were Jewish, and I'm not, I'm an atheist, I've never been indoctrinated into any religion. But I would think that if I were Jewish, the things that I'm seeing coming out of the Trump administration and the anti immigration bigotry, and the way these people are getting captured and dehumanized and drug off to far off places and being denied due process, I, I would think if I were Jewish and I'm not, that that would be the biggest red flag for me that this administration is parallel with Nazi Germany. And I wouldn't go to seek refuge with the people who were doing that and somehow think that my group is different and then all of a sudden get scared at Zoran Momdani. It's just. It's a real internal conversation that those right wing groups need to have if they're serious about anti Semitism. Because what I'm seeing right now tells me you're not serious about it. You're serious about exceptionalism and narcissism, and that doesn't benefit anyone, especially with these fucking fascists. All right, that's all we have for this episode. Subscribe like, and we'll be back later with more news.