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Episode: Trump and Vance Are Priming US For a Full-On Dictatorship
Date: September 16, 2025
Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Overview
In this charged and sharply critical episode, Jennifer and Angie, progressive voices based in a red state, examine what they perceive as an orchestrated effort by Trump, Vice President J.D. Vance ("Lil Smokey"), and their allies to prime the American public for a dangerous erosion of civil rights and the rise of authoritarianism. They respond to recent political rhetoric following the murder of Charlie Kirk, dissect the coordinated messaging from top Republican figures, and warn of the existential threat they believe is posed by the current administration.
Key Discussion Points and Insights
1. Exploitation of Charlie Kirk’s Death
- The hosts argue that the Trump administration is quickly leveraging the tragedy for political advantage, using it to intensify public fear and justify crackdowns on dissent (00:05–01:30).
- Jennifer: “They are priming the public right now to erode civil rights.” [00:30]
- The focus is shifted away from other pressing issues like Epstein, Russia, a failing economy, and inflation.
2. Authoritarian Rhetoric on Protest and Policing
- The hosts play clips of Trump advocating for aggressive police responses:
- Trump (clip): “If somebody spits in your face, do nothing. And I say when they spit, you hit. Do whatever you want.” [00:50]
- Angie describes this as a move towards “a completely militarized police force that can act with impunity.” [02:37]
- They highlight the chilling normalization of state violence and the delegitimizing of protest.
3. Chilling on Free Speech and Civil Liberties
- Vice President J.D. Vance (dubbed "Lil Smokey" by the hosts) is condemned for suggesting limits on protestors’ First Amendment rights following a reporter’s question.
- Vance (clip): (paraphrased in show: “I’m not so sure” about protestors’ rights) [03:21]
- Angie: “He thinks any dissent should be penalized. And I’m terrified of all this.” [03:34]
4. Coordinated Messaging and Scapegoating
- The hosts notice a deliberate narrative from Trump, Vance, Stephen Miller, and right-wing media, all pushing a storyline of “leftist terror cells” and calling for draconian measures:
- Attacking George Soros, the Ford Foundation, and liberal figures; tying them to violence with no evidence [04:28–06:01].
- Vance (clip): “We can only have unity with people who acknowledge political violence is unacceptable, and when we work to dismantle the institutions that promote violence and terrorism...” [05:47]
5. Stephen Miller’s Influence
- Miller's rhetoric is flagged as especially alarming, suggesting an all-out domestic war.
- Miller (clip): “We are going to channel all of the anger… to uproot and dismantle these terrorists.” [10:37]
- “Every resource we have…to…destroy these networks and make America safe again.” [12:23]
- Hosts call this “classic propagandist gaslighting,” warning of laws that criminalize dissent and the consolidation of power, especially if Trump (“Kanks”) becomes incapacitated.
6. Media and Propaganda Arm
- The role of right-wing media (particularly Jesse Watters and Fox News) is dissected:
- Watters (clip): “Their heinous movement should be politically destroyed, systematically dismantled…Their acolytes…will be spotlighted and given one chance to confess and apologize. And if they don’t, thrown out of polite society.” [15:17]
- Hosts draw parallels to historical purges and call this overtly fascistic rhetoric.
- They stress the foreign origins and oligarchic interests of key right-wing influencers: Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, and Rupert Murdoch.
7. Hypocrisy and Outrage Manufacturing
- The performative nature of right-wing outrage is illustrated by pointing out that Trump skipped Kirk’s vigil to play golf, despite his supporters berating businesses for not lowering flags. [16:15]
- Angie calls out the “bullshit” of manufactured rage:
- “It’s performative rage to rile people up, to think that the liberals want everybody dead…We want your rural hospital open, your rural schools funded…” [16:15]
8. Real Threats and the Abdication of Democratic Institutions
- The hosts argue that genuine extremism is ignored in favor of scapegoating the left, while government institutions (Congress, courts) have abdicated their responsibility.
- They reaffirm progressive goals and call for ongoing resistance:
- “Democrats support democracy. Democrats oppose gun violence…We want your life to be better.” [end]
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On civil liberties:
“They are priming the public right now to erode civil rights.”
— Jennifer [00:30] -
On state violence:
“What he’s talking about now is a completely militarized police force that can act with impunity.”
— Angie [02:37] -
On silencing dissent:
“He thinks any dissent should be penalized. And I’m terrified of all this.”
— Angie [03:34] -
On right-wing unity narrative:
“We can only have unity with people who acknowledge that political violence is unacceptable…and dismantle the institutions that promote violence…”
— J.D. Vance (clip) [05:47] -
On propagandist tactics:
“This is a classic propagandist gaslighting … their solution is going to be to erode civil rights. They are going to make it illegal to disagree with the administration.”
— Angie [10:48] -
On the propaganda arm (media):
“Jesse Watters was saying war. He was declaring war.”
— Angie [16:08] -
On progressive values:
“We want your rural hospital to be open. We want people to go to college and not be drowning in debt… We want your life to be better.”
— Angie [16:15–end]
Important Segment Timestamps
- Exploiting Kirk’s death / “priming” narrative: 00:05–01:30
- Trump’s police rhetoric: 00:50–02:07
- Vance on First Amendment: 03:11–03:34
- Lil Smokey (Vance) on “unity”: 04:28–06:01
- Stephen Miller on “focused anger” and terror: 10:13–12:52
- Jesse Watters and propaganda: 15:17–16:15
- Host emotional response and call to action: 16:06–end
Tone and Language
- Throughout, Jennifer and Angie maintain a raw, impassioned, and highly critical tone, using humor and biting sarcasm to underscore their alarm. They are explicit in naming the stakes—what they view as the very survival of American democracy. The episode is combative, urgent, and deeply rooted in a progressive worldview.
Conclusion
Jennifer and Angie’s episode is a rallying cry against what they see as a growing authoritarian threat, linking top administration rhetoric, right-wing media propaganda, and coordinated outrage into an explicit warning to listeners: Rights are at risk, and the time to resist is now. For those seeking a progressive take on current American politics—with humor but unvarnished concern—this episode is both a diagnosis and a call to action.