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Jennifer
Foreign.
Host 1
I've gotten in a really bad habit of turning to Fox News to see what they're talking about. When the rest of the world is talking about Russia humiliating Trump and his emissaries, Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner, and when Trump's falling asleep at Cabinet meetings, when Pete Hegseth is committing war crimes, what are they talking about on Fox? And so Jesse Waters, he tells us he's talking about Gavin Newsom crossing his legs. And for the first time, I actually kind of agree with Kayleigh and McEnany. Play the clip.
Host 2
Work in Tennessee.
Jennifer
Real quick. Can we put Gavin Newsom crossing his legs? Kaylee, when you see a guy cross his legs like this, I mean, what do you think?
Host 2
I think about you, Jesse, and how you cross your legs every moment until the five starts and the cameras roll and you uncross them. That's what I.
Jennifer
Fake news. That's the first thing that was ever wrong on the show. Well, let it.
Host 1
First of all, when did Jesse Waters become the spokesperson for masculinity? Because he is absolutely the biggest. I mean, hair dye, makeup, crosses his leg, drinks out of a straw, but he tells everybody what masculinity is. And for one second, she had a little tiny bit of balls, but then she had to backtrack about it. But what do you think about that? They're talking about Gavin Newsom crossing his legs, and Pete Hecseth is committing murder.
Host 2
It's just a. It's a sustained continuation of the homophobic nature of the toxic masculinity that an authoritarian regime uses. And so this propaganda arm of Fox News, you know, Jesse Waters is, I think, you know, he's got some sort of. He's very obsessed with men. He talks about men and masculinity all the time. Jesse Waters talks about men and masculinity more than any of my gay friends, more than all of my gay friends combined. The way he talks about the way men suck on straws, the way men's cross legs. I think Jesse Watters is probably, in my opinion, deeply attracted to Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsom is a very attractive man, and only a queen would notice Gavin Newsom crossing his legs. Any alpha wouldn't notice that, nor would they care, but Jesse does, because he's very into being voyeuristic about men, and he proves that night after night after night on his show. He sounds like a man that is obsessed with men, which is also known as gay.
Host 1
Well, that's the perfect segue for this, because we've talked about on this podcast More than once about how he admires Stephen Miller. He just glows when he's on. Calls him a sexual matador. Look at his face in this next clip. And I want, I want to tell everybody the backstory on this. Pete Hexeth was on Katie Miller's podcast and one of the. In response to a question about who would you not allow to babysit your children, his immediate response was Stephen Miller. And so Stephen Miller, to a. An adoring Jesse Waters has a response to that.
Jennifer
You say, anybody could watch my kids except Miller. Well, I think, I think in fairness, he's worried that if I babysitted, babysat his kids, they come back after a couple hours and they would say, daddy, why don't you send the military into Minnesota to help us, the Somali refugees? So Miller, you constantly, you're trouble. I bet people are just trying to contain you at the White House. Don't let Miller off the leash.
Host 1
That looks like he has a crush on him to me. He's like that every time he comes on. And Stephen Miller, you're a racist. You are a racist piece of shit.
Host 2
I just, I see that and the way they are so casually.
Minimizing.
Nazi style things. Like what, What Stephen Miller would have in mind for Somalian refugees is, you know, rounding them up and sending them off somewhere. And this is, you know, he's the architect of Alligator Alcatraz. He's the architect of sending people to Sea Cot. And the way they're giggling and laughing about it, I don't even want to.
To me, the overarching bond there over any sort of sexuality thing is the misery loves company of dehumanizing other people and how normal they feel around each other and how they are so comfortable in each other's presence because they both have these really fascist style ambitions for other human beings. And when I watch them giggling like that together, that's what struck me the most about it.
Host 1
It's just a thirst for cruelty. I mean, these are cruel men.
Host 2
And then.
Host 1
Okay, so I don't know if anybody's aware. Do you know who Sabrina Carpenter is? She's this big famous singer. Well, she has a song that the Trump administration used in a horribly racist video. And she publicly responds full throated and says, do not use my music. Put up her tweet, please, Kylie. Okay, after. This is Politico. After the White House posted a video using one of her songs, Sabrina Carpenter replied that this video is evil and disgusting. Do not ever involve me or my music to benefit your inhumane agenda. So that is what she posted. The White House, because they have no respect for anybody.
Human rights, they don't give a shit. They don't care about ownership unless they own it. This was the response on the White House website. Here's a short and sweet message for Sabrina. We won't apologize for deporting dangerous criminal, illegal murderers, rapists and pedophiles from our country. Anyone who would defend these sick monsters must be stupid.
Host 2
Hello.
Host 1
The absolute murderers, rapists and pedophiles are in the White House. That's who they are. So this response is they have completely stolen music and copyright infringements from artists and they come out against it. And this is what they say to a young woman in her 20s about her objection to using her music in their videos. I just was so grossed out.
Host 2
Yeah, it's.
The, the, the overt nature and how braggadocious they are about being.
Dehumanizing to people or denying people rights or the, the appetite they have for, quote, capturing immigrants and how mainstreamed it's become. And it's all wrapped up into this weird cult like mega church Christianity, toxic masculinity, and Fox News entertainment. It's really, when you step back and look at it, it's just, it's wild as I sit here that like the White House account is doing that. And then when I think about the standard that is put on Democrats, Democratic leaders and Democratic presidents, the, you know, it's way up here. And then what's put on Republicans, the bar is so incredibly low. And the soft bigotry of low expectations has really never been proven as much as it has been with all of these institutions and societal pillars that have caved and capitulated to the depravity of this administration. It's just mind boggling.
Host 1
It's mind blowing. And then of course, it wouldn't be a complete trifecta unless Fox News had to demean the. This same artist, Sabrina Carpenter, Greg Gutfeld.
Jennifer
We talk about, talk about her every time. We talk about affordability. We're not talking about Sabrina Carpenter. You want to talk about her? Well, here's the thing is I'm not into the celebrity aspect. I'm into the phase of life. Think about, okay, like, look at her. As opposed to a representative of women her age, single, no kids, no responsibilities. They have yet to experience any transformative event that would inform their beliefs. So the things that she detests today, she will learn to, and understand to value later like we all have.
Host 1
So basically what he's saying is when she gets married and has children, she'll have different values because she'll value her husband and her children. She won't give a shit about human rights anymore because why would anybody. I mean it's just this kind of shit. It all goes, I mean the hemisphere, the foxers, it's all one. It's just, I'm so sad by it because it's so disgusting, it's so sexist, it's so hateful. And that's kind of the norm. The white, it's just all, it's depressing.
Host 2
Yeah. And all of this in order for us to really understand the, the, the at the daily routine of a, of a MAGA person is they watch Fox in the morning, then they go to work and then they're on some form of algorithm in their spare time that's feeding them this misogyny and this form of toxic masculinity that they think appears so strong. And then they're going to their mega churches where their pastor is telling women that their role is to submit to their husbands. And the number one agenda for youth groups in these mega churches is virginity. Not being a better person, not having compassion, not making sure that people will aren't judging gay people, trans people, etc. It's virginity. So the whole thing is about the control of women. And what Greg Gutfeld explained there at the end was right now she's not under control, she's rogue. And she, you know, this is where the Republicans have a problem is are they so pro economy, job creation, et cetera? Well, they are as long as a white man is doing it. But if it's Taylor Swift or this young pop star, then they have a problem with it. And they want these women back under control in the institutions that they feel like they control. And so that's why they are so partnered with, with these hateful, horrible megachurches that have popped up all over the United States of America. And that's why Fox News is intentionally, by design going to mention more Christianity in their reporting. Because it's always been a lie that they accuse the left of virtue. Signaling the truth is the right wing Christian signals that Christians signal passively and overtly all the time to their viewers to keep them into control structures. And a woman who has agency autonomy. Remember their meltdown about Cardi B singing about her wet ass pussy? You know, this is just, it just continues on and on and on that this is their worst nightmare. And they, because a woman like this, a woman that has money, a woman who has autonomy and agency, they need to get her back into an area of control. And they deem those areas as marriage and motherhood.
Host 1
And I grew up in this internalized, misogyny, sexism evangelical and everything Jennifer just said about control and women is true. Believe it. It is true. I've lived through it. Please like this video subscribe to our channel. Support us by buying our book. It's linked in the show notes.
Oh look, we have our Vanna White. I've had it podcast and I hit news right there. Thank you, Jennifer. That's just a great job.
Host 2
You always do it, so I'm happy to do it.
Host 1
All right, we'll be back later with more news.
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Podcast: IHIP News
Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Episode: Trump Crashes Out After Sabrina Carpenter Slams Him
Date: December 6, 2025
In this episode, Jennifer and Angie dissect the week’s political fiascos from their progressive perspective deep in red-state America. With biting humor and candid analysis, they dig into Fox News’s obsession with performative masculinity, the Trump administration’s brazen co-opting of pop culture, and the rampant misogyny bolstered by right-wing media and megachurches. Special focus is given to singer Sabrina Carpenter’s public stand against Trump’s use of her music, and the hosts deliver a scathing critique of the intertwined forces of toxic masculinity, white Christian nationalism, and patriarchal control in contemporary politics.
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Jennifer and Angie maintain a sarcastic, irreverent, and emotionally charged style. Their rapport underscores the frustration, exhaustion, and righteous anger many progressives feel, but they deliver it with wit and an occasional laugh at the absurdity of the news.
Note: This summary omits all advertisements and non-content banter to focus exclusively on the episode's substance.