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Political Commentator
America's mayor showed up at the Oval Office, and Kanks served a Krispy Kreme hot and ready box of dozen glazed donuts. It was the char offensive that charmed the fascist, you guys. It was incredible. And so here we have an image coming out. We have Mike Nellis tweeting, find you somebody who looks at you like Donald Trump looks at Zoron. Mom, Donnie. And you guys look at Kanks in this image. Have you ever seen him this happy? Have you ever seen him look at Melania at JD At Stephen Miller, at Elon, even Ivanka, his favorite child? Have you ever seen Kanks, the fascist dictator, as happy as he is looking up at Zoron? Incredible. Some personal thoughts that I had when I saw this was, I bet Stephen Miller is on suicide watch, because that image right there is the remedy for all of the white supremacist ambassador ambitions of Stephen Miller. That image right there is the image of the United States of America and Zoron's. We've interviewed him in person, you guys. He is authentic. He has charisma out the wazoo. He is handsome. He is smart. And in person, his. His desire for affordability, his decency radiates off of him. It is authentic and it is real. This right here is my favorite clip of. Of the whole thing. He, Zoron Trump, completely seeds that he's a fascist in front of Zoron and the press. Watch this. Play the clip.
Interviewer
He asked about your comment calling the president a fascist, and your answer was, both President Trump and I have been clear about our positions and our views. Are you affirming that you think President Trump is a fascist?
Donald Trump
I've spoken about. That's okay. You could just say okay. It's easier. It's easier than explaining it.
Political Commentator
Oh, my God. He's like, okay, okay. Yes, I do. Kanks seated, like, it's okay. We all know I am one. I like you. You. You don't have to go through this humiliation exercise. Think about how much Kanks loves to humiliate everybody in his orbit. Everybody. His wife, his vice president, his advisors, everybody. All of the oligarchs that funded him. Think about how much he loves to browbeat Elon Musk. And he absolutely just layup after Layup after layup to Zoron, zero humiliation exercise. In fact, Kanks was willing to absorb all of the humiliation. And I think Zoron put on. Continues to put on a masterclass. And I think something that's really important here is that that as much as we dislike Kings and as demented as he is, his political instincts have always been pretty spot on. And he likes winners and he likes winning. And he knows how popular Zoron is. He knows, and it's not just concentrated in New York, it is across the United States. And he knows that being photographed with him and being kind to him was something that the Democratic establishment didn't do. So you have a dementia ridden cankles McTaco tits glazing Zoron. And when I went to Zoran Mamdani's victory party in Brooklyn, I was so shocked that Chuckles and Hakeem were not on that stage, hand in hand, having this victory moment since they're both New York politicians. But they didn't. And they still continue to try to distance themselves from him. Look at how fun the Internet was yesterday when this happened. And this tells you exactly why, when the Democrats are on the main ticket, they lose because they have terrible political instincts. Terrible because Hakeem Jeffries and Cory Booker and Chuckles had some focus group that says, oh, we don't know if you should be seen with a socialist and we rather think it's better to play this Islamophobic thing. Zoran had billionaires colluding to try to beat him. And Zoron has proven that the people can win in this country. And Kank saw that and Kank sees that. This is the way the pendulum is swinging. And let's just hear. Seth, I want you to play here's two minutes of Kank's glazing Zoron and I'll pause it to comment as we go along. Play the clip.
Donald Trump
Congratulate. I think you're going to have hopefully a really great bear. The better he does, the happier I am. Congratulations, Mr. Mayor. I feel very confident that he can do very. I think he is going to surprise some conservative people, actually, and some very liberal people. He won't surprise him because they already like him. He said a lot of my voters actually voted for him and 1 in 10 and I'm okay with that. He wants to have a safe New York. Ultimately, a safe New York is going to be a great New York.
Interviewer
Are you affirming that you think President Trump is a fascist?
Donald Trump
I've spoken about that's okay. You can just say it's easier than explaining it. I don't know. Some of his ideas really are the same ideas that I have. The new word is affordability. Another word is just groceries.
Political Commentator
Okay, pause it. You know, the narcissist in him just cannot stop. You know, a lot of his ideas are my ideas. And I love that Zoran's just standing there, just kind of like, yeah, I, I'm doing this. I have walked right in here. I'm polite. I am fighting for my constituents. I am not in. In. The glazing is so one sided here. Kinks the pile on. I bet Elise Stefanik is on suicide watch. I bet Elon Musk, you guys, I bet it is ketamine city right now at X headquarters. I bet these people are losing their fucking minds. All right, continue.
Donald Trump
Fashion where he doesn't want to see crime and I don't want to see crime. Very little doubt that we're not going to get along on that issue. He wants to see houses go up, apartments built, etc. And people would be shocked. But I want to see the same thing. We had a meeting today that actually surprised me. He wants to see no crime. He wants to see housing being built. He wants to see rents coming down. All things that I.
Political Commentator
Okay, stop it right there. He said we had a meeting. That surprised me. So Trump in that moment is admitting I fell prey to the propaganda that he is a pro crime, pro jihadist, communist. Trump admits it, that he, he bought into that narrative because Trump is a Fox News addict. And then when he actually sits down with Zoran and if the ADL leader would actually sit down with him instead of trying to scapegoat this great American who really wants to fight for the workers in America. If they actually sit down with him, then they realize, oh, he's not the boogeyman at all. He values all of us being able to live in a decent way. And the way a lot of these leaders are so condescending about people like Zoron that fight for the working class and make him the boogeyman and use racism in order to do it, especially the adl, the Islamophobia that they apply to Zoron. When kanks can take planes from Qatar and throw a huge ball for the prince of Saudi Arabia, it's just the hypocrisy is just on total display. All right, let's move along from here, Seth. And let's go to Fox News. Here is the Fox News reaction. Play the clip.
Brian Kilmeade
Washington, D.C. that's what we Just watched. Now I'm in New York City. We were watching that press conference. I think J.D. vance is jealous. I think he, the president wants to use him as a running mate. They really got along fantastic, everyone, I'm Brian Kilmeade, lucky enough to fill in for Will Kaine. You just saw President Trump in New York City. Mayor Elect Zohra Mamdani.
Political Commentator
Okay, you guys, even Fox News is excited about this. They picked up little Smokey, threw him under the bus and drove right over him. Right in that clip. They cannot, you cannot escape the Riz and the message of Zoran Mamdani. And this is the path forward for Democrats. They're still, I mean, tomorrow or the next day, the Islamophobia will persist and people like the ADL and Elise Stefanik and Stephen Miller and Elon Musk will continue to demonize Zoron in the most bigoted, disgusting way imaginable while they all pretend to be against bigotry. But at the end of the message, Zorin represents two things that I think the Democratic Party needs to embrace. Number one, a message of affordability, a message of income inequality that is just completely out of control. And number two, attaching universal human rights. Okay, we cannot prioritize anti Semitism over Islamophobia. We cannot prioritize anti Semitism over misogyny. We cannot prioritize anti Semitism over white racism towards black people. They are all connected. And the fight against bigotry is a fight against all of these forms of bigotry. And you cannot think that you're this special minority that's going to get special treatment if you pile on other minorities and attack them. And I'm speaking specifically about the disgusting work that's being done at the ADL right now. Just some of the most horrific form of bigotry in the name of anti bigotry that I've ever seen. And I think we should continue to call it out. All right, Laura Loomer is going through some things, you guys. Let's talk about her post. Put this up, Seth. Laura Loomer tweets, why did Zielinski receive a harsher welcome at the White House than Mom? Donnie, I'm going to tell you why. It's because Putin has a video of kanks blowing bubba. That's why. Laura, if you would stop with your head up kings's, ask all the ass all the time and pay attention, you'd know that Putin has the goods on kanks blowing Bubba. She goes on to say, interesting. If socialists are doing a good job, then I guess nobody needs to vote them out during the midterms. If you're a Republican, why not just stay home in 2026 and 2028 since mom Donnie's policies are amazing. I agree. Republicans stay home. All you ever do is up the economy every chance you can get with your we favor rich people and we demean the poor and we're going to do it all in the name of Jesus Christ. And the way you lie to these rural voters and the way you lie to these working class people is so important and the gig is up. Take Laura Limmer's advice. Sit this one out. She goes on to say, I'm confused. No need to oppose the left, I guess. I guess socialism is comfortable now. No need to vote for the GOP in 2026 is the message I'm getting for that. You know what, Laura? I agree. There is no need to vote for the GOP in 2026 because your policies suck. Look at all of the red states that have had Republican super majorities. Like the state I'm sitting in right now, Oklahoma. We have had Republican super majorities for 20 years. And guess what? We're a bottom five state. And guess what the leader of our state does? He goes out and lies to people, uses their faith, weaponizes it against hard, earnest, good working people and tells them he's trying to do the Lord's work. Meanwhile, he favors giving billionaires in this state tax breaks and fleecing the working class in doing so. And he has driven the education system from 14th down to 50th. And then he says the problem are books that he wants banned and that we don't have enough faith in schools. Again, weaponizing faith against these well meaning people that can't ever seem to get ahead because trickle down economics has been and always will be a lie. All right, Riley Gaines is going through some things and I just want to point out that Riley Gaines always seems to come in last. Okay, so her, her rise to fame is because she tied for fifth place with a Transformer. Tied for fifth. And while Trump is glazing Zoron in the Oval, basically saying, move over Bubba, I have a new crush and I can't quit Zoron. I broke back Mountain. Can't quit this guy. Here's Riley Gaines Political impulses right here. Coming in last yet again. Riley, play the clip. An interview to conduct. Riley, Merry Christmas.
Interviewer
Merry Christmas.
Political Commentator
Figured I would come back to New.
Interviewer
York City one more time before it.
Political Commentator
Goes full blown commie.
Donald Trump
Okay, okay.
Political Commentator
Not only does Riley display How stupid she is not understanding what communism is and that nobody, no politician that I'm even remotely aware of in the United States campaigns on a platform of communism. That's just so stupid. You reveal your double digit IQ in that. But while you're saying that Riley, the guy that you sold your faith and your decency and your spine down the river for, is in the Oval Office answering a question the following way. Mr. President, would you feel safe and comfortable living in New York? Was Zoran as mayor and he goes, yeah, I would. I absolutely would. The the this movement, this MAGA movement, where people are a walking, talking, breathing advertisement like Riley Gaines is a walk, talking, breathing advertisement of Christian hypocrisy. She claims that Jesus Christ is her Lord and personal savior, yet she is able to look the other way at child pedophilia. She's able to look the other way at the consolidation of wealth to very few people that take it from the huddled masses. She looks the other way at immigrant children that are being ripped away from their families. And then she Christian signals to all the good well meaning people in the United States, oh, it's okay, I'm one of you. And it's one of the most insidious lies that the Republican Party has perpetrated on well meaning Americans in flyover states and beyond. All right, and I'm going to leave you all with something that we have been. I've had MTG on a watch for quite some time now and Marjorie Taylor Greene resigns. Let's play a little bit of her clip.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Self respect and dignity. I love my family way too much and I do not want my sweet district to have to endure a hurtful and hateful primary against me by the President that we all fought for, only to fight and win my election. While Republicans will likely lose the midterms and in turn be expected to defend the President against impeachment after he hatefully dumped tens of millions of dollars against me.
Political Commentator
Okay, all right, she goes on and on. Here's the thing, Mar. Taylor Green's going to run for President. All right? She's either going to be Tucker Carlson's vice presidential pick after a primary or she herself, which I think there's too much misogyny in the MAGA movement. But she is removing herself from a very toxic president who is in the low 30s approval rating, and she is packaging herself as the more compassionate conservative that still offers the MAGA base the Riley Gaines of the world. Hey, look, we can still be kind of Jesusy, but we can also hate Immigrants. And we can act, we can fear monger and scapegoat and we can continue to lie to people and we can continue to make sure that you know, Marjorie Taylor Greene, you know, you guys, she voted for the big beautiful bill that is removing health care for millions of Americans. And so the Marjorie Taylor Greene's, the Riley Gaines, these people that use their faith to lie to people that think, oh, she's in my tribe so that it's okay, I can take their leadership on this. To marginalize and just straight up be diabolically cruel to your fellow Americans, the poorest is about the most unchristlike thing you could possibly do. Okay, listen, this has been an amazing 24 hour development. Of course Kanks, you know, within an hour or two could send tanks into the city of New York City because we're dealing with a dementia ridden man. But it was a fun day yesterday to be an American. We continue our Marjorie Taylor Green Watch. We continue to call out Fox News and all of the fake, fake Christians that are walking, talking, breathing. Advertisement why not to be a Christian? The Riley Gaines, the Marjorie Taylor Greene's, the JD Vances of the world. That that is one of the cancers and we have to keep fighting because there are good, decent religious people in this country that think about marginalized people before they do, about enriching, enriching themselves that feels something in them if they were to speak disparagingly about the poorest among us, the sickest among us and on Fox News they do that effortlessly. That kill me that we played earlier that was just giddy over Zoron. You all remember he talked about euthanizing homeless people just really casually. So listen, some days it is very difficult to be an American. Some days it gets a little better. But you guys, we have to keep fighting. We have to keep building a community, building our pro democracy ecosystem that is not linked to corporate ownership. And make sure you subscribe to our channel like this video, buy our book. Life is a lazy Susan of shit sandwiches. It is a great way to support pumps and me. And we'll be back later with more news.
Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Date: November 22, 2025
This episode presents a raucously comedic and politically charged recap of what podcasters Jennifer Welch and Angie Sullivan dub one of the “wildest” 24-hour news cycles: Donald Trump’s unexpectedly glowing meeting with progressive Mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani and the surprise resignation announcement from Marjorie Taylor Greene (MTG). With Midwest candor and irreverent bite, the hosts unpack viral moments, deliver pointed criticism of both Republican and Democratic leadership, and hold a magnifying glass to hypocrisy and shifting political winds.
(Starts ~00:20)
Trump’s Public Admiration:
The hosts gleefully recount images and tweets showing Trump—referred to by the hosts with disparaging nicknames (“Kanks,” “cankles McTaco tits”)—displaying unprecedented admiration for Zohran Mamdani during their White House meeting.
“Have you ever seen Kanks this happy? Have you ever seen him look at Melania… JD… even Ivanka, his favorite child?… as happy as he is looking up at Zoron? Incredible.”
— Political Commentator, 00:27
Impact on Trump’s Inner Circle:
The moment is portrayed as earth-shaking, sending Trumpworld regulars (e.g., Stephen Miller, Elon Musk) into a tailspin.
“I bet Stephen Miller is on suicide watch, because that image right there… [is] the remedy for all of the white supremacist ambassador ambitions of Stephen Miller.”
— Political Commentator, 00:40
On Zohran Mamdani:
The hosts praise his authenticity, charisma, and working-class appeal, contrasting Mamdani’s grassroots popularity with the establishment’s cold shoulder.
“We've interviewed him in person, you guys. He is authentic. He has charisma out the wazoo. He is handsome. He is smart.”
— Political Commentator, 01:05
Trump (On Being Called a Fascist):
In a viral exchange, Trump responds to a direct question about being called a fascist:
“I've spoken about. That's okay. You could just say okay. It's easier. It's easier than explaining it.”
— Donald Trump, 02:22
The hosts interpret this as Trump’s tacit admission and an uncharacteristically humble moment.
(02:34-07:00)
Hosts’ Take:
They marvel at Trump “glazing” Mamdani and absorbing all the “humiliation” for once, noting Trump’s instincts to align with rising populist figures even outside his base.
“His political instincts have always been pretty spot on. He likes winners and he likes winning…he knows how popular Zoron is.”
— Political Commentator, 03:26
Contrast with Democratic Establishment:
Jennifer and Angie criticize Dems like Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer for not embracing Mamdani’s momentum, attributing it to poor political judgement and misplaced fears over socialism and Islamophobia.
“…when the Democrats are on the main ticket, they lose because they have terrible political instincts…some focus group says, oh, we don’t know if you should be seen with a socialist.”
— Political Commentator, 04:19
Trump Expressing Surprise at Agreement:
During the meeting, Trump has trouble hiding his amazement at their shared priorities:
“He wants to see no crime. He wants to see housing being built. He wants to see rents coming down. All things that I…”
— Donald Trump, 06:36
Hosts note this as an admission that Trump bought into Fox News fearmongering about Mamdani; meeting him reveals shared American values.
(08:27-09:00)
Fox News Coverage:
Even Fox News, notably Brian Kilmeade, responds with excitement to the unlikely pairing.
“I think J.D. Vance is jealous. I think he, the president wants to use him as a running mate. They really got along fantastic…”
— Brian Kilmeade, 08:27
Hosts' Reaction:
The enthusiasm spills over as the hosts point to Mamdani’s “Riz” (charisma) crossing ideological lines, embarrassing Republican favorites, and disrupting Fox’s narrative.
“They picked up little Smokey, threw him under the bus, and drove right over him…You cannot escape the Riz and the message of Zoran Mamdani.”
— Political Commentator, 08:46
Progressive Policy as Path Forward:
Key progressive themes highlighted:
(10:00-12:30)
Laura Loomer Tweetstorm:
The hosts lampoon Loomer’s comparison of Mamdani’s warm White House welcome to Zelensky’s, spinning wild conspiracies about Putin’s influence over Trump.
“Laura, if you would stop with your head up kings's, ask…you'd know that Putin has the goods on kanks blowing Bubba.”
— Political Commentator, 10:44
Loomer’s tweets questioning the need for Republican opposition in light of Mamdani’s policies are met with dry encouragement to “sit this one out,” referencing GOP policies that harm the working class.
“There is no need to vote for the GOP in 2026 because your policies suck…we’re a bottom five state [Oklahoma]…he has driven the education system from 14th down to 50th.”
— Political Commentator, 11:30
(12:30-14:30)
Mocking Riley Gaines:
The hosts mock conservative activist Riley Gaines’s “last place” political instincts and her claims about rising communism:
“Her, her rise to fame is because she tied for fifth place with a Transformer. Tied for fifth. And while Trump is glazing Zoron in the Oval…here’s Riley Gaines’ political impulses right here. Coming in last yet again.”
— Political Commentator, 12:46
Christian Signaling & Hypocrisy:
Jennifer and Angie call out Riley Gaines and others for using “Christian branding” to mask support for policies that run counter to Christian values—especially cruelty toward immigrants and the poor.
“…one of the most insidious lies that the Republican Party has perpetrated on well meaning Americans in flyover states and beyond.”
— Political Commentator, 14:11
(15:42-17:00)
Clip from MTG’s Announcement:
“Self respect and dignity. I love my family way too much and I do not want my sweet district to have to endure a hurtful and hateful primary against me by the President that we all fought for...”
— Marjorie Taylor Greene, 15:42
Hosts’ Interpretation:
The hosts speculate MTG is seeking a lane as a more “compassionate” (but still MAGA) conservative, perhaps prepping for a national run, and lampoon her votes against working-class interests.
“She's either going to be Tucker Carlson's vice presidential pick…or…run for President. But she is removing herself from a very toxic president who is in the low 30s approval rating…”
— Political Commentator, 16:15
“To marginalize and just straight up be diabolically cruel to your fellow Americans, the poorest, is about the most unchristlike thing you could possibly do.”
— Political Commentator, 17:00
(17:00–end)
Moment’s Significance:
Hosts reflect that Trump’s embrace of Mamdani marks a shake-up in the political order, and reiterate calls for progressives to build a community centered not in party but in decency, rights, and working-class solidarity.
“Some days it is very difficult to be an American. Some days it gets a little better. But you guys, we have to keep fighting.”
— Political Commentator, 17:46
“We have to keep building a community…a pro democracy ecosystem that is not linked to corporate ownership.”
— Political Commentator, 18:10
For listeners and political junkies, this episode offers laugh-out-loud commentary, sharp critiques of hypocrisy across the spectrum, and an unfiltered, hope-tinged progressive perspective on a transforming political landscape.